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2:00 AM
One hour 'till half time. #ExtraLifeZe
/cc @ElimGarak
 
@Borgleader Pretty hot. Needs moar KOTOR 3, tho.
 
@Borgleader Make him an Assassin and I'm full in
 
full in
what with
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Heretic D:
Reven > all
 
your collection of chocolate money
 
2:02 AM
@AlexM. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@AlexM. That'd be "all in", AFAICT
 
welp full in makes no sense so I just inferred that that's what you meant
 
How cool would a Ḥashshāshīn order using laser weapons, though
 
I'm burning like a fire gone wild on Saturday
Guess I won't be going to church on Sunday
 
god he even pasted the proper name
 
@AlexM. Cum on, I always go full lenny when possuble
 
2:05 AM
WHY DO I UNPLONK YOU ALL THE TIME
 
@AlexM. I did >.< Is that bad?
 
How did I get so blind and so cynical
If there's love in this life we're unstoppable
 
First time here, didn't think this is a good enough question to ask on SO, But is this book incorrect here i.imgur.com/flmLFCb.png when it says "computer will wait for two inputs seperated by [a comma]?
 
jefery
what are you on about
 
looooooove
waiting for looooove
 
2:06 AM
@francium It'll be separated by whitespace
 
LIKE A BLACK WIDOW BABY
the kid again ugh
 
And the mystical "computer" creature won't wait for anything
 
Ell
^this is one for you @AlexM.
 
@Jefffrey have you tried rightfold
 
@AlexM. That's @Morwenn's domain
 
2:09 AM
@Ell lol
 
@Jefffrey Quick, put yourself out with this! throws a canister full of gasoline
 
@набиячлэвэлиь do they get along together
 
But Sin is a Masturbation
 
@AlexM. yeah
@ElimGarak "Oh look! I sinned all over the furniture!"
 
2:10 AM
Starworthy for the title
Sounds like something rigidfold would say
 
@Ell lol I bet he annoys lots of people
haha the dislike bar
I wouldn't like to be an elaborate troll like that
who knows maybe I piss off someone crazy enough to kill me
> Video gamer hunts down, stabs man who killed his online 'Counter-Strike' character
like that
 
Now, the question remains: does a zombie still contain cum fit for human consumption?
Probably a very fresh zombie would
Like a 2-3 day one, max
 
be sure to let us know when you find the answer
 
@GregorMcGregor Hey I dropped a precursor
 
Someone is arguing with me that auto&& y = x + 2; is undefined behaviour
 
2:22 AM
make sure it’s not an overloaded +
 
also hello
 
hello also
 
alhe lloso
 
mine made sense!
boss tiem
 
1GB RAM is not enough for Git and Phabricator
Fuckin repacks
 
2:25 AM
@Rapptz did someone say why that would be UB?
 
because x + 2 is a temporary and I can't have a reference to a temporary
 
doesnt auto&& extend the lifetime just like const auto& would have?
 
rip got tentacle’d
 
(the debate has already been settled)
@Borgleader yeah
 
ok, so someone is wrong then?
 
2:26 AM
@Rapptz Have you tried insulting their mother?
 
@Borgleader that's how it usually works ye
 
Someone is arguing
obv one of you was going to be wrong
 
it ended in the 5 minute span I sent that message :p
but it was going on for 40 minutes
so I was getting p. bored
 
how tf was i spose to know T_T
 
mind reading obv
parsing IPv6 is kind of annoying
"kind of"
this is actually something worthy of using goto with
but then again I suck at this
 
Ell
2:31 AM
can i see code/,]]
 
Uggh I resized disk on my droplet, can't make it cheaper without recreating
Is 5$ worth the effort
No it's not
 
Man, this will be a fun project, seldom find excuses to work on GUI
 
Good eve @all again!
 
@ElimGarak I saw that eye somewhere before
 
@jaggedSpire :3
lets go for a walk
@ElimGarak <NSA> Elim Garak
 
2:41 AM
@AlexM. Cryengine's logo possibly? Although I've never understood the significance of a generic eye for it
 
you can’t see it?
 
Oh, wait, CryEngine's eye is a bit weird
 
@ElimGarak hmm yep now that you mention it
actually no
 
I think I saw something more similar to your eye
 
2:42 AM
One of its forms
 
somewhere else
did you make it?
 
Yeah, it took like 5 seconds. It's the generic vector eye :D
 
maybe it's a false alarm and my brain is stupid or sth
remembering things
 
The style is pretty common, which kinda makes it recognizable
 
yea
 
2:44 AM
The latest Cryengine logo looks less like an eye and more like a man holding his hands on his head after a tragedy, getting ready to cry or some shit.
 
Cryengine, because their UK employees were crying due to no salaries.
 
Ell
@AlexM. yeah :L
so cringe
 
@Ell What the fuck is that shit, guise?
Are they mentally retarded or yes?
 
Ell
he is trying to make you vegan
 
2:53 AM
I think they're trolling but
I mean I don't have anything against the
the topics
and the themes
and trolling but
why do they have to be so
UNATTRACTIVE
 
Yeah, I like my steaks. No dead animals in my mouth and I am willing to watch the world burn.
 
@ElimGarak Weirdo
 
the chick in golden time is catherine knight material
 
UI work is the worst
 
love that
 
2:57 AM
Users ruin everything
 
What's a 'user'?
 
@decltype_auto if you don't know then you're probably used
 
Would be the first time I'd been found useful.
 
Woo repo mirroring works
 
inb4 occluded sun shadows (let's just drop cloud occlusion) and LoD
 
3:09 AM
Efficient coloring. I like that.
 
In total, there is like 1 shadow in the left corner.
 
@ElimGarak boy is it white
 
Possibly players fucking with gamma settings, also Bethesda hacking their way into tonemapping. Should be easy to modify, tho.
 
So is it fun
 
I certainly hope so, as long as this isn't particularly true
 
3:12 AM
Oh it hasn't unlocked yet
 
No, it is still very much sealed shut. But, fortunately, I am from New Zealand tomorrow. I know, a sudden change.
 
@ElimGarak hobo aragorn lol
 
Changing your timezone doesn't change the release date
 
but changing your timezone is time traveling
 
VPN tricks no longer work?
 
3:14 AM
Did they ever work? You set one release date in Steamworks, not multiple per-timezone ones
Changing TZ just changes your reference point
 
Last time I was excited about a game was ME3, used VPN to magically teleport me to some shitplace to unlock it fairly early. I was hoping Steam did something similar.
 
You'll just see a different name for the same moment in time vOv
 
think of it like this
it's a fallout made by bethesda
treasure the moments you have until you're disappointed
remember that the best modern fallout was actually not by them
 
Yes
Let's wait for Fallout 4: New Vegaser
 
Ah, yeah, it seems they're using their local time for everybody as the unlock one. ME3 was basically "who reaches the release day first". Wellp, disappoint.
 
3:20 AM
Multiple release dates are dumb
 
I must say I am greatly annoyed by console players getting all of their shit on disk and ready to play (a bunch of them have been playing for days)... And here we are sitting with a locked partial preload. But then again, understandable, PC players are controllable minions due to their allegiance to Volvo.
 
lol console preloads are not encrypted?
Or was console release date just earlier
 
Preloads, yes. But disk versions are usually delivered early on, a week before. Some guy actually went to Germany yesterday to get his box. Germans don't give a fuck about "don't sell before release date". Dedication right there.
 
idk why you'd buy Fallout of all things on release date
It'll take them like a year minimum to get critical shit fixed
 
the hype the game gets is weird
 
3:25 AM
They've been using that Gamebryo shit since Morrowind, you'd assume they figured it out in 12 years. They implemented a train in Fallout 3 by wearing it as a hat on a generic NPC, because creatures are the only precoded dynamic entities in the engine.
 
I mean unnatural
there's this "fanbase" that was silent until recently and now they're all speaking up (?)
 
Gamebryo is garbage and they'll never fix it
Quest state bugs: the engine
 
@Borgleader :D
@ElimGarak I'm just jealous of the hat tbh
 
3:41 AM
Man, it's 4:40am and I am excitedly typing away... Too much coffee.
 
on the other hand, it's only 4:40am
 
Man, Microsoft makes it way too easy to fuck with other processes, not that I am complaining... :D Now if only my eyesight would stop blurring.
 
4:00 AM
clearly, the solution to your blurred eyesight is more caffeine.
 
user406009
4:18 AM
@ElimGarak Wait, why does Germany have it released early?
 
4:38 AM
Hey, we reached our fundraising goal! Let's see how far we can get it now. Only 10 hours left.
 
4:49 AM
@Borgleader :D /cc @Morwenn
 
5:01 AM
OHHHHH MY GOD
IT WAS AWESOME :3
 
@Borgleader Lazy Saturday afternoon /cc @Morwenn
How was your Saturday, @JerryCoffin
?
 
5:18 AM
@jaggedSpire Not bad. Not bad at all, as a matter of fact. How 'bout yours?
 
It was quite nice. Mostly just lazed around on the internet. Tried breakfast at a cafe I usually only visit in the afternoon. :)
 
Why is it the return value of the function
 
5:43 AM
just got home from lunch, going out for dinner again ... 4 hours at restaurants, 3 hours on the road, 1 hours exercise ...
I am not having a good sunday
Not that I don't want to see the people, I love them
g2g again
 
hey guys
should a factory class give out managed or raw pointers
or rather, should the user be responsible for the lifetime and destruction or not
 
Who else
 
Or should I provide a layered API that hides that
 
5:58 AM
If you like bugs
 
e.g. like SDL has SDL_Destroy_Texture and stuff
 
That's not that
 
Reminds myself to stay away from people ...
They are the source for all my unhappiness
 
SDL_Destroy_Texture is because allocating in one DLL and deallocating in another is asking to be assailed by bugs. The user is responsible for calling the factory function, the user is responsible for calling the deletion function as well.
 
It's mostly because it's impossible to do anything else with C ABI
 
6:11 AM
(I am agreeing with Cat, who I just remembered was the one to bring up SDL_Destroy_Texture)
Ah
 
That's a different design consideration than C++ functions that return pointers to newly created things
 
@jaggedSpire mmmm i seee
So it's better to have the user take direct references?
 
I believe the GSL recommends passing them a unique_ptr with the proper destructor, so the user has a hard time fucking it up.
 
All factory functions should always return unique_ptr or a value
 
@jaggedSpire ???
ah I see
 
6:23 AM
the use of a unique_ptr rather than a shared_ptr means the user can use either
 
Hmmm but... what scope does it have btw?
 
...
 
Is it the scope it is created in? Wait nvm it's as if it were created in the function or scope it is returned...
 
what scope...does a returned variable have...
go to sleep
 
Never have shared_ptr in interfaces unless they participate in shared ownership
(shared_ptr sucks)
 
6:26 AM
It has its uses. If you want to cause a memory leak that's hard to track down, or want to create additional complexity in the lifetime of a variable, shared_ptr is a good option
 
@jaggedSpire "want to create additional complexity"
hmmmm
@jaggedSpire I'm fine
It's only 8:28
 
did you sleep last night?
 
6:39 AM
yes
It's 8:28pm...
...
 
well we all forget some things sometimes
and have brain farts
 
oh i get it
 
6:58 AM
If I have a file with 100 numbers and 2 string " even.txt odd.txt" at the end, how do i read the string at end into two different variables ? doing File handling first time, searched a lot , couldnt find a solution
 
7:19 AM
std::string filename1;
std::string filename2;
inputstream >> string1 >> string2;
 
Guys is C on topic here?
or off topic?
 
off-topic
 
@HassanAlthaf (Mostly poorly informed) complaints about how horrible C is are generally topical. Anything else, mostly not so.
 
Thank you for the information. I will just use StackOverflow then.
I'm learning C, before I move on to C++. I really find C nice to use in order to understand Computer Science concepts.
 
:)
 
7:28 AM
does anyone have examples of valid/invalid IPv6 addresses
I wanna see if my shitty parser is right
 
I wanted to ask,
since IPv6 are stored as 128 bits.
There are 16 bytes,
 
uh huh
 
how many bytes do each segment of the IPv6 address represent?
 
two
 
And, they are represented as hexadecimal yeah?
 
7:33 AM
yes
 
and each hexadecimal takes up 4 bits if I am not wrong?
 
FFFF
 
FF = 1 byte, FFFF = 2 bytes
F = 4 bits
 
7:34 AM
not be confused with the ASCII :-)
 
yh thts hex ik
 
an IPv6 address is made up of these (up to) 4 character hexadecimal entries separated by a colon.
example -> 2001:db8:85a3:0:0:8a2e:370:7334
 
Yeah thanks.
So Rapptz, since you want an invalid IPv6 address,
or valid
tell me what your parser says about:
2001::8a2e:370:7334
 
that is a valid IPv6 address
h16 "::" ( h16 ":" ) ls32
 
Is L3 shared by the Intel's integrated GPU?
 
7:43 AM
well considering it eats everything I'm throwing at it and the obvious wrong shit seems to fail I'm thinking I'm done
 
@Mikhail I don't think so. But Broadwell's L4 is, IIRC.
 
this took a considerable amount of effort to write
 
@Rapptz was regex an alternative?
 
no
std::regex sucks
 
python?
 
7:48 AM
no..
I specifically picked this project to get away from python lol
 
@Rapptz blasphemy! :p
 
You should compare the performance of your parser with some of these regexs stackoverflow.com/questions/53497/…
wtf is the plural of regex?
 
@JonClements I'm a bit burned out from python.
C++ is more fun because I can actually mess up.
I never mess up in python so it's not fun, iunno if that makes sense
 
just introduce a spelling error
 
yeah gotta love those NameErrors I guess
 
7:52 AM
Also None vs []
 
umm... anyone else having trouble loading the main site?
 
OTOH making and sharing a python library in pypi has made me hate python2 with a burning passion
 
SO seems fine from Chicago
 
SO loads for me
 
Bah... partial loading and no ajax here sighs
 
7:54 AM
SO looks good here. Also in Chicago.
 
@Mikhail It's not an IPv6 parser. I actually found this out a while ago.
I'm parsing URIs.
Which has an IPv6 component which is a subset of the actual IPv6 grammar.
I think the actual IPv6 grammar has two more things attached to it.
 
You will never make HN if you can't compare your method to the lazy solution, then explain why the lazy people suck
 
The /stuff and the %stuff trailing stuff.
I'm pretty sure my parser is like.. handrolled regex or something
it's not really something I'm proud of, I'm just glad it works lol
 
Now do everything all over again in Boost::Spirit
 
bet it'd be pretty easy to translate considering I'm looking at an ABNF anyway
 
7:56 AM
@JonClements Seems fine here in San Diego.
 
Umm... weird - seems to have fixed itself - cheers anyway guys
 
oh Jon are you good at asyncio shit
 
Anyone here who can use C and help me out a bit? I have a separate room fo rit.
 
@Rapptz Not so much so at 8am on a Sunday morning - but what's up?
 
more of a curiosity thing so I know who to bug in the future :D
 
8:05 AM
@Rapptz haha... you're more than welcome to pop by the Python room if the need arises :)
 
8:18 AM
@JonClements oh, you're not american
 
correct :)
 
@Elyse Thank you!
 
@thecoshman D:
 
@thecoshman lol pretty hardcore
 
8:32 AM
@thecoshman wtf
 
I dont know
do I like
whoa
 
Well that wasnt right
Well hello again
OMG firefox is soooo good
 
9:02 AM
@Xeo ooo... new display pic :)
 
Can we generate two set of random numbers using srand & rand() ? The first set is random, the second set becomes filled with a constant.. where might i be going wrong
 
seed
 
9:18 AM
@Gowtham don't use those, they are old and lame, use the modern C++ generators. Second, those (like most general purpose RNG) are not truly random, they use a starting number and then generate further numbers from that and it's 100% predictable what the next number will be (if you know the algorithm) So all you need is two instances of an RNG with different seeds ( 'time now' is normally good enough)
 
I have to use C :< since srand cant be used more than once in a program , how is the seed changed ?
 
Hm. The more I dive into this URI thing the weirder it becomes.
256.256.256.256 is obviously not a valid IPv4 address
but because the rule says it will take either a reg-name or an IPv4address then it's a valid reg-name.
Oddly enough I see no reason for IPv4address to be specified considering reg-name handles all the IPv4address cases and more.
 
9:38 AM
@Gowtham iirc, with the C impl, srand sets the seed (starting value) and calls to rand get the next global value. Thus, to have to RNG in parallel, you will need to wrap access to those calls. You need a class that when you instantiate it will take a starting seed, and when you use this class to get the next value has something like int next(){ srand(value); value = rand(); return value; }
and you need threads, then you need to make sure that srand and rand are done attomically, ie only one thread at a time can use that function. It's ugly, but it will work.
I think
@Rapptz thankfully, there is not .256 TLD, but for URI's you are right, it is problematic :P
 
well a URL is a subset of a URI
 
indeed
I guess you could say that IP address are just a subset of URIs
 
there was no "current" RFC for URLs
so I had to settle for the URI one
I looked at it and it said that reg-name purposely has no limitations and delegates the issue to someone else
works for me
 
uhhmmm
 
10:01 AM
> I'm bad at fast & loose reasoning because I am like Sir Mix-a-Lot: I can't ignore bottoms.
 
Hi
whish you blessed day
i have a small question if any one would help me
 
no
 
10:25 AM
@ScottW <3
morning
 
@jaggedSpire Now I'm drenched in cuteness.
 
10:45 AM
> Chinese artist Tao Hongjing reveals he's a Frenchman called Alexandre
 
My friend bought me this:
for my hiking/camping
 
Convenient when you need to smash skulls.
 
@Morwenn while hiking/camping ... yes, convenient location ...
 
user1804599
OK, time to implement alpha renaming.
 
10:59 AM
@TonyTheLion funny seeing these super cars hardly even ticking over driving through London
 

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