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19:00
surely that would be LLVM rather than Clang
you know what i meant
@Borgleader I was really surprised by that, considering his solution introduces an extra branch... he did test with predictable branch-predictor pattern tho... so I dont know how much merit it has
@TonyTheLion what am I referring to
wtf lol
wut
we're just sharing the love
@набиячлэвэлиь cheapest effect in the world :) And easier to make than sawtooth, really
@sehe Did you see the bit of code i sent you the other day? What did you think of it?
@Borgleader Is that you or is that from reddit?
reddit
@GregorMcGregor sheesh it’s been three years and it’s not even 250g in price lol
19:14
@Borgleader so how'd you get into game dev?
Well I have a Software Engineering degree (and I took the multimedia branch of that program), also I interned at a game company
ah make sense
nice on the degree :)
you're one of the loungers that actually got a degree :D
don't most loungers have degrees
quite a few I know started getting a degree and dropped out
2 hood 4 school
19:17
and I'm just self taught
I never made it to uni
Puppy's a genius and he dropped out
Puppy inflating his ego ^
Like it needed inflating
Puppy ^^
@Borgleader Ah, very coolio, 2D makes everything less of a headache! :D
19:20
meeh
I gotta go get my degree too
this year
I am selling ° at a discount.
is it C
@ElimGarak dat pun
You buy it, you define what it is. Your story. Your adventure.
hey I made a pun too
19:21
@AlexM. dat pun
The Lounge is my adventure <3
@ElimGarak <3
@Borgleader Checked out his portfolio while I was there, initially I was impressed, then I noticed it is all offline and extensive usage of 3rd party libraries. :D Still cool, but less cool when your frametime is 60,000 ms or more. :D
@AlexM. I want it!
Ell
Ell
meh when is that chip computer coming out
All my life I've trained to be an asshole. Maybe the best there ever was... But every time I need to perform, I fuck up.
@ElimGarak You're so from an asshole that you're mostly just amazingly lovable <3
<333 #loungescirclejerkoflove
19:27
better than hate
And they say on meta that we're bad.
@AlexM. the girl looks pretty
it's a girl, right?
@Ell I'm still waiting on the mill to be a thing /cc @Mysticial
19:27
I'm basically just done with the hate. From now on there is only love.
Ell
Ell
uh this mouse
> "please"
Ell
Ell
why did my batteries have to arrive latee
so how about ISIS then
so out of character then
19:28
@TonyTheLion shut up asshole son of a bitch
@Puppy they're not in the Lounge are they?
@Puppy they don't need any more hate
Ell
Ell
ISIS scream YOUSIS scream WEALLSIS scream for ISIS cream!
urgh. w/p I guess
@StackedCrooked lol
19:29
@Borgleader I saw you sent it to me :) Will have looks laterish
@TonyTheLion I would not expect so but there is no guarantee.'
Ell
Ell
Fury X beats GTX 980Ti since driver update
@Puppy so are you trying to say I should have a reason to hate?
@Ell My upcoming Fury X2s will wreck everything!
I'm merely saying that dismissing hate is impractical, as there's plenty of people worthy of hate.
19:30
@StackedCrooked dunno
But hate requires effort :/
@ElimGarak Youre switching to the red team? D: TURNCLOCK
Unless Nvidia swoops in and poops something amazing in the meantime.
@ElimGarak GIVE ME MONEY PLEASE
@ElimGarak Pascal :) (hopefully)
19:31
I have a 7970 :D
And also a 970.
there are plenty of people worthy of hate but the way they get that way usually involves becoming not worth the effort required to hate
@Puppy is it because they're worthy of hate that you should hate them, because what does hating them solve? Nothing. It solves nothing, but only perhaps contributes to the problem.
I guess that depends on how you define hate.
I personally would not define hate as slinging some flame in a chatroom, but slinging some bombs out of a plane.
Puppy prefers to look at you with contempt and plan your demise in intricate detail. Soon...
ITT Puppy is a cat?
19:33
So hyped for the destruction of humanity
Ell
Ell
the most painful thing about not having a mouse is not being able to skip youtube videos
@Ell ell problems
@Ell rightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrow‌​rightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrowr‌​ightarrowrightarrowrightarrowrightarrow
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it don't work for ads :/
@Ell Install AdBlockPlus
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Ell
19:37
meh
Idk how I feel about adblock
But do you know how you feel about ads?
Then you how you feel about adblock is just !feelForAds. No need for contemplating ethics and shit.
@Ell I'll tell what conclusion you should eventually come to, "ads are a waste of my valuable time, therefore I install AdBlock to stop them wasting my valuable time so I can get on with important things"
@StackedCrooked it's not funny, it's the saddest thing ever :<
Ell
Ell
but but some people depend on the revenue brought by ads, right?
nvm...
19:39
@Ell Their meals, no. Their purchase of a Porsche, yes.
@Ell there's millions of people whom are not savvy enough to install AdBlock who will see these ads.
@AlexM. I mean it was funny how we got to discuss/rant about this series every week after having watched a new episode.
thats my excuse anyway
:|
@StackedCrooked oooh
I get it
:26753457 I thought OCAML is slow, prefer a swift OHORS.
19:40
koko sure is a case where too much loneliness gets you a step from dementia lol
@AlexM. also:
Jun 14 '14 at 22:32, by StackedCrooked
@AlexM. I learned about the odori dance from that series.
Haha, Cinema4D still exists
I saw an ad when I went to see Spectre about some 4D thing
@StackedCrooked hey it's those clothes
I should have written "awa odori" there.
19:43
where they will have your chair vibrating etc to add effects while watching the movie
not sure if I would like that
@TonyTheLion Ah, I meant Maxon Cinema4D :D
oh I see
really looking forward to spectre
one week to go
(it's not fun unless I watch it on a friday)
Ell
Ell
@TonyTheLion was Spectre good?
@ElimGarak Stroooooongly disagree. I hate ads with a vengeance. To the point where I'll easily refuse to buy anything that has ever been marketed to me in any way that was annoying to me (which is, often). But, I don't use ad-blocker.
19:45
@Ell yes spectre was a good movie
I enjoyed it :)
@sehe That's because you're our special snowflake <3
special_snoflek
Me too. But tomorrow is Fallout 4 time!
@Ell That doesn't mean that that's a good business model that should continue to be viable.
@ElimGarak Or maybe because your logic was flawed
19:47
@sehe Hate ads -> block ads. :P
@Nooble that's a pretty sweet GIF you have there but WHERES THE CODE?
I'd rather pay on Patreon directly to the content provider.
Flawed. I hate ads. I'm just very capable of blocking them myself and I disagree with blocking them (because it will end the free web)
@ElimGarak Patreon takes a cut
@sehe +1
besides, ads have become a lot more tasteful recently
19:48
@sehe The free web is already over. Adblocking just makes it official.
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at least in my opinion
@Puppy Just like the free lunch then
@Puppy Fair point. So, I prefer the shady inbetween because the rates are fairer
Ads are a malware vector
I'm aware of that. However, eliminating it is a false sense of security
19:49
what rates?
@nick It's invisible.
@Puppy The price of the content
well, how many products did you buy by clicking on an ad online?
Beside the point, bro
I stopped buying some products because I saw ads online.
19:50
it's not beside the point, it's the entire point.
if you don't buy products through online advertising, then you never contributed to that content.
You had such a well-done summary line there, and now you go and trouble it all by pulling in irrelevant rhetorical questions
@Puppy Nope.
Impressions also pay out
Much less though
@Puppy Untrue
I don't buy based on ads, I buy because I either need that thing or want that thing.
I rarely click ads. As long as they're not intrusive, I have no problem with letting the site owner be compensated for the time they spent creating the content that I'm looking for.
19:51
CPI is fairly garbage
@nick Yes, those were cool. And then you get cockblocked with 30 second ads for 15 second videos. And that day, I met adblock.
I met adblock with autoplaying video ads, with audio.
CockBlockPlus.
Patreon might be taking a cut but it's still way more money for the actual creator than tubyube ads or whatever
19:52
^
If we're talking about youtube, i mean generally you can skip the ad within 5 seconds or it's already over within 15
Esp if you don't click
anyway, I can safely say that I have never bought anything through or as a result of online advertising.
it's a complete waste of money for the advertiser.
Skipped ads also pay out way less hth
@Puppy argh yes those annoying. I remember those playing from imgur
19:53
@Puppy Advertising is about many things; interest tracking, interest building (brand name distribution) and just generally playing into consumerism (I might buy more stuff because I saw /any adverts/ even if I don't buy the advertised thing /through the link/. It's really glaringly obvious.
@sehe I've yet to observe any of those things actually happening, though.
Contributing to the content doesn't require clicking at all. It requires page views. And yes, click-thru is a factor too
@Puppy Oh my. You're oblivious
You should spend some time in marketing
This is the absolute bread and butter of the internet
I have never, and never met anybody who has, gained the slightest interest in any brand or product, even tangentally, as a result of online advertising.
Same. In fact, I know people who get annoyed by brands as a direct consequence of the ad.
hm
19:55
With ads on tubyube you also don't know who's getting the money anyway
@nick (but I bought European pencils)
tai lopez
@Puppy It's not about that. You're much to focused on yourself. It's not about what you seek. It's about what branders push
It might be someone who had 1 second of content in that video and now is running ads over the entire thing via Content ID
@Nooble :P
19:55
the branders want to push whatever will make me buy their stuff
Initially, I don't give a fuck about the brand. And then it is the brand I don't give a fuck about that is holding something of interest to me hostage for a despicable payout to the content creator. And suddenly, I feel disdain for it, which continues on in RL.
10 mins ago, by sehe
@ElimGarak Stroooooongly disagree. I hate ads with a vengeance. To the point where I'll easily refuse to buy anything that has ever been marketed to me in any way that was annoying to me (which is, often). But, I don't use ad-blocker.
@Puppy that doesn't mean that such a person doesn't exist.
there's 7 billion people on Earth
@Puppy Not only that. Also, it doesn't equate to you buying stuff
and since I'm not gonna buy their stuff no matter what advertising they put on, it's a mutual waste of effort.
19:56
In summary fuck ads let the entire model collapse and burn
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@TonyTheLion My using adblock doesn't make that person use adblock, though.
I'm making a personal decision to adblock for myself only.
people who care about online ads can decide whether or not to adblock for themselves.
If the internet falls apart as a result of ads going the way of the dinosaur, it deserves to fall apart. Let me pay for a content provider I like, I'll fucking pay. And smile doing so.
so just continue to consume bandwidth from content providers for free
gg
19:57
It really won't
adblock is only revealing the truth of the last 25 years of my consumption of web content- which is to say that I completely ignore advertising.
@Puppy Go ahead and stay oblivious. It's just... the world works differently and ad blocking has to do with that. If you wanna discuss it more, it's not gonna work with me. Because if you have this simplist view then, yes, obviously ad blocking is a no-loss thing.
I pay for Spotify, Netflix
I make my contribution
I'll consume all tubyube bandwidth with no regret yes
I pay for Spotify (to my own surprise)
19:58
Google treats people who actually create content like shit so they deserve no sympathy
because Google is an evil company and deserves to burn
I don't pay for anything
@sehe Makes zero sense to me, but nevermind. I just want to be comfortable in my usage of the internet (and my computer in general, for that matter).
fuck
@sehe It doesn't matter if the world works differently. I'm not turning on adblock for the world. I'm only turning it on for me.
19:58
@Puppy Another case of "Something is not relevant for Puppy, so it can't be relevant" reasoning.
and not only that
but I don't seed what I download
^ true evil
I accessed websites from a computer that didn't have adblock. The experience was an atrocity. Gamespot and IGN have their entire background coated in Call of Duty and other shit. And how the hell do ethics and being paid by publishers for ads go hand in hand on a review site?
when it comes to Puppy's personal decision to block ads or not, then yes.
I'm all for centralised services dying
absolutely.
it's Puppy's decision, made by Puppy, affecting solely Puppy, according to Puppy's ideas.
19:59
One goal of advertisement is to make targets people aware of the brand/product/service/whatever to begin with. When considering purchasing/using something and someone even think of that product/service, then advertisement has worked. Even if they don’t pick it.
Puppy does things for Puppy based on Puppy's perceptions.
what a shocker.
@Puppy Yes, but again too self-centered. Adblock isn't for you. It's for the population at large. And the effect if the population at large uses adblock consistently are far greater than if you do. Because, you know, the population at large isn't you. They are relevant, and you are not.
Ell
Ell
It affects more than Puppy.

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