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2:00 PM
> Intel use version 9999 for their internal testing of the next release, but a compiler with that version number accidentally slipped out into the wild as well. Boost.Config has no way of distinguishing between them, I'm not sure, but this may effect users beta-testing Intel's products as well as their development team.
lel. Good job Intel
Oooh. inoreader import finished
 
user406009
:26876314 Why? Do you just dislike watching it personally, or do you think it should be removed from society period?
 
@Lalaland Your link doesn't seem to be working. You suck man!
 
user406009
@StackedCrooked I blame the SuckChat
 
Ven
aaaand everyone on facebook is starting to change their profile pic to the paris thing.
 
Yeah, yeah. I totally believe you.
 
user406009
2:06 PM
@Ven Well it was a pretty major event. The fallout and response is going to be scary.
 
hi all
 
Ven
@Lalaland oh yes, I got texts all night long
 
user406009
Terrorism is fucked up. The incentives are all screwy.
 
can anybody allocate 10^5x10^5 int locations in c++?
 
@Ven hilton?
 
Ven
2:08 PM
@sehe hilton's not even a "thing".
 
Well. You can't really change your avatar to the attacks, either. So I suggest you clarify, not me
@coderredoc Yup
 
user406009
@coderredoc That's like a couple of gigabytes.
 
user406009
You can technically do it.
 
user406009
(With the right amount of RAM)
 
It's not very 'technically', you just can
 
2:09 PM
Mar 11 '13 at 14:40, by sehe
@MartinJames (sssh! no need to make people jeaulous of our super powers)
@Lalaland Don't even need that
 
@sehe.: if I have enough RAM available at that moment?
 
@Elyse Do I start with partial masturbation or do I go straight for the monad?
 
@coderredoc You don't even need that. Just a good OS and clear idea of what you want to achieve
@JohanLarsson You apply for masturbatory monad
 
user406009
@Elyse Fallout 4 is just like the rest of Bethesda's games. So it's "good" if you liked those.
 
user406009
People enjoy different genres of games.
 
2:11 PM
@sehe sounds advanced
 
user1804599
@Lalaland I have never played any of them.
 
@Borgleader <3 <3 <3 :)
 
@sehe.: No actually I recently faced such a question in SO....please read my answer..and point me my wrong ideas?
@Lalaland.:@sehe.: No actually I recently faced such a question in SO....please read my answer..and point me my wrong ideas?
 
user406009
@Elyse Have you played any open world RPG games?
 
user406009
Far cry, etc, etc.
 
user1804599
2:12 PM
No.
 
> open world RPG games
> far cry
 
user406009
@AlexM. Far cry is about as close as other companies get to Bethesda.
 
bro far cry is quake with a pretty environment
 
2:13 PM
lol fuck Poland.
 
it's as much of a rpg as need for speed is
 
user406009
@Elyse Watch a let's play then.
 
user1804599
I have only played RuneScape and I didn't like it at all.
 
user406009
I find that watching let's plays is much more effective than reading reviews in determining whether or not to get a game.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes y doe
 
user1804599
2:13 PM
It was really boring.
 
They were the first to use the Paris attacks as an excuse for their xenophobic policies.
 
user406009
@Elyse That's because Runescape was a MMO. Those types of games have boredom as one of their important characteristics.
 
@La
 
stop it
 
@Lalaland you should try a VN
 
user406009
2:15 PM
@coderredoc It could be that the person doesn't have enough RAM?
 
user1804599
@Lalaland ok
 
user406009
Or is on a 32-bit OS?
 
user406009
(Where trying to allocate more than 4 GB gets you screwed)
 
Fallout 4 is getting raving good reviews.
 
user406009
@StackedCrooked A VN? What's that?
 
2:15 PM
I should probably check it out. But I wont.
 
anime
 
@Lalaland Visual Novel
 
@StackedCrooked It's bug-ridden, wait like a year
 
@Lalaland @oh! so is there a better answer you could provide there..then I will delete mine
 
Playing Bethesda games on day 1 is a badi dea
 
2:16 PM
@TonyTheLion <3 :3
 
user406009
@StackedCrooked Hmm, I'll look into it. It's a genre I have never tried before.
 
@Borgleader What you doing on this fine Saturday?
 
@soho.: I am getting downvotes..so I would delete my answer I think
 
@Lalaland I recommend Saya no Uta for a beginner.
 
@TonyTheLion I think ima code some stuff, you?
 
user406009
2:17 PM
@coderredoc Your answer is fine. He's probably just allocating too much memory.
 
user1804599
@coderredoc Here is the solution to your problems.
 
@Borgleader chill, do a lot of nothing.
 
@Lalaland (@Xeo stopped playing the game because he was too scared to continue.)
 
maybe I'll go out for a bit in a bit
I had some work stuff to do this morning, which I did
 
@Elyse are you getting irritated man?sorry.. :-(
 
user406009
2:18 PM
@coderredoc Or the values he is reading in from a and b violate the bounds of the array.
 
Nov 7 at 19:38, by Tony The Lion
Please read the rules. Thanks a bunch.
 
user1804599
4 mins ago, by sehe
stop it
 
@GregorMcGregor <3 :D :)
 
i don't know..i am following the rules...Tony and Elise
 
I wish more people would silently plonk people rather than engaging in silly discussion. This world would be so much better if all trolls were hellbanned.
6
 
2:21 PM
^^^^^
what stacked said
I agree
 
@StackedCrooked bro now you speak Alex M
 
apt-get uninstall g++. apt-get install golang-go — Matt Joiner 8 mins ago
 
do you know what the best shit ever is, this is the best shit ever alegesanatos.ro/dbimg/produse/9769583produs_img.jpg
 
He is not a troll
 
One does not even have to plonk to not engage in silly discussions.
 
2:25 PM
@JohanLarsson Yeah, I suppose you could mentally plonk them.
 
Hi.
 
Unfortunately I lack the zen-power for that.
@Morwenn Good afternoon :)
 
@jaggedSpire awwww :)
 
@StackedCrooked So why don't you just press "Ignore" on them?
And let other help if they want to?
 
@Jefery That's what I do.
 
2:26 PM
@Morwenn Good morning :)
 
:)
 
so what do you guys do here?
 
chat
about anything and everything
we chill and have a good time
we love each other <3
 
2:27 PM
<3
 
yeah...I get it.
 
I suppose it's not a really good day.
 
@StackedCrooked why?
 
my butt hurts
 
ha ha :-) u huys r funny
 
2:29 PM
find a pillow to sit on
 
Game of laplace? anybody watched?
 
I wish people did salads with normal tomatoes instead of cherry tomatoes
cherry tomatoes are extra disgusting because they're too small to cut properly so eating them whole results in an explosion of nope
 
o.O
 
I mean when you break them in your mouth
 
@AlexM. hahaha
 
2:31 PM
it's horrible
and they're always extra sweet
 
@AlexM.: you are in NI?
whoooa
great
 
Jun 4 '12 at 13:26, by sehe
EVERYBODY: Commit chatticide and PRESS IGNORE simultaneously?
Probelmo solvo
 
The world needs more people like you :)
 
sehe..am I disturbing? sorry! I will leave..you could tell me directly!!
@sehe
 
@coderredoc I didn't think you were, until you started repeating plinks and typing half messages without waiting for replies
 
user3790646
2:37 PM
@coderredoc You're not disturbing :)
 
Hello people.
 
user3790646
@coderredoc Just act more... normal.
 
I'm a beginner. Can someone explain why (std::cout << variable) would return true?
 
user3790646
@Superex Because it was possible to print the variable value
 
2:38 PM
And what is an "End of the file"?
 
@Superex It returns a std::ostream&, or a superclass thereof
 
user3790646
14
Q: How does ifstream's eof() work?

Chan#include <iostream> #include <fstream> int main() { std::fstream inf( "ex.txt", std::ios::in ); while( !inf.eof() ) { std::cout << inf.get() << "\n"; } inf.close(); inf.clear(); inf.open( "ex.txt", std::ios::in ); char c; while( inf >> c ) { std::c...

 
@Superex It wouldn't. It returns a reference to std::cout. That, in turn, can be converted to Boolean, which indicates whether the stream is still in a "good" state.
 
user3790646
That's more likely to be what you're searching for
 
Thanks.
I'm upvoting one of your answers in the forum.
Gotta go.
 
user3790646
2:41 PM
@Superex See you.
 
@Andrey Ugghh. If you're linking, link to the important ones!!! /cc @Superex
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Q: Why is iostream::eof inside a loop condition considered wrong?

MAKI just found a comment in this answer saying that using iostream::eof in a loop condition is "almost certainly wrong". I generally use something like while(cin>>n) - which I guess implicitly checks for EOF, why is checking for eof explicitly using iostream::eof wrong? How is it different from ...

 
@Andrey Not really. eof() is almost never what you're looking for. Many people find it and are misled into using it, but in reality it's rarely of much real use (and specifically, if you use its result to control program flow, you've almost certainly made a mistake).
 
^
Fixed it already
 
user3790646
Right. I just linked it what he was searching for.
 
Don't.
Link if you know the answer.
People are looking for the wrong thing 90% of the time
 
2:43 PM
@Morwenn I suppose recent events makes today a stressful day for you, and your fellows..?
 
@StackedCrooked Not really. It makes me sad of course, but what happens in Paris is different than what happens in the rest of the country. And nobody I know in Paris was hurt.
 
I see
 
@StackedCrooked Yes, even though I am the furthest away from France here.
 
user3790646
@edition Where are you from?
 
@Andrey New Zealand.
 
2:48 PM
Burn After Reading is pretty funny.
 
user3790646
I'm going to meet my grandfather today, for the first time, haha.
 
user3790646
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Hello.
 
@edition This wouldn't have bothered me emotionally when I was ten years younger. Somehow I've become more sensitive over the years.
 
2:52 PM
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Nice.
 
hope everyone is doing well despite the terror
 
all loungers and their loved ones are accounted for afaik :)
 
Even Ven?
 
Who's Ven?
 
user1804599
3:04 PM
@Ven is.
 
I hate iTunes. But gotta give it to the that they manage to provide cool views of my music.
 
@StackedCrooked how my music looks
 
user1804599
I'm so bored.
 
@AlexM. It reminds me of something similar.
 
user1804599
I don't know what to do.
 
3:13 PM
Andrey?
 
user3790646
@Superex Hello?
 
Hi! So, what is an "end of the file"?
 
The end of a file
 
@Superex He linked you that a while ago
...
 
@Superex It's a way to signal the end of a stream.
 
3:17 PM
@Superex std::ios::eof
 
user3790646
@Superex Like some people from here said, it's not cool to use it at all. But it'd be interesting if you at least learned here stackoverflow.com/questions/5605125/… why it's almost never what you're looking for
 
@Elyse I'm so stuck. I don't know what to do.
 
That doesn't make sense.
So an end of a stream would result in false?
Cut that. Forget those lines.
So an end of a stream would result in false? That doesn't make sense.
 
@AlexM. I wonder how long the graphics would take to recreate using OpenGL :/
oh, might be fairly quick.
 
user1804599
Estimated download time: 7 hours 10 minutes
 
user1804599
3:20 PM
lol for 25 GB
 
That's pretty quick.
 
user1804599
No, it's shit slow.
 
user1804599
But the estimation is likely wrong.
 
It would take more than a day for me to download that.
Maybe more than two days.
 
user1804599
MGS V was also around this size and it took only about half an hour to download.
 
user3790646
3:20 PM
@Elyse My 1mbp internet connection chills
 
@edition It's all 2D, and at first glance doesn't look like it's doing much (if anything) that would benefit from 3D hardware.
 
My 50 KB/s internet connection sucks,
 
user3790646
The fastest internet connection in my city is of 10mb (1,2mb/s)
 
user1804599
> Time remaining 1 hour 4 minutes.
 
@Superex It doesn't return in false. It returns with EOS.
 
user1804599
3:22 PM
Now that's quite reasonable.
 
Goodnight people. Going to go to sleep.
 
user3790646
@Superex Good night.
 
EOS? Going to do more research. Thanks.
 
@Superex Wut, it's only 4PM.
 
user3790646
@StackedCrooked Have you considered time zones? xD
 
3:23 PM
@StackedCrooked 4:23AM here.
 
I don't believe in time zones.
They are scientology shit.
 
user3790646
1:23pm here
 
user1804599
but scientology is science so it's good right??
 
user3790646
@StackedCrooked That's a joke, right? Haha.
 
It's literally sciencescience
 
3:24 PM
all around our house they have 50+mbits but in ourhouse we only have 16mbits :(
 
@Elyse exactly. at least you understand!
 
So, like, metascience
 
Burn After Reading is awesome.
Worth the while.
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ does that interfere with your porn habits?
(serious question)
 
@StackedCrooked I just ignore the people without plonking. I do not want to create an echo chamber.
 
user1804599
3:25 PM
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ 16 millibits isn't a bandwidth.
 
user1804599
Even if you meant millibits per seconds, that would be quite odd. Who counts in millibits?
 
@wilx You are stronger than me :)
 
:D
 
user3790646
@Elyse 16mb is like, 1,8mb/s
 
@StackedCrooked not really :p
 
3:27 PM
@StackedCrooked he just has low standards for what he'd allow his eyes to see
 
user3790646
My internet connections downloads at a speed of 100KB/s
 
user3790646
Holy crap.
 
personally I don't think I created echo chambers
 
unsurprisingly, trolls say what trolls say
i.e. nothing
so they have no real important effect on what is said here
 
3:28 PM
Recently I learned that if you have a round-trip-time of 200ms then TCP can never be faster than ~40Gbit/s.
Latency matters guys.
Open your eyes!
 
let's get to that 40Gbit/s! ;)
 
@StackedCrooked This does not seem obviously true. Why? There is this sliding window which you can widen, there is delayed ack, etc. Why do you think so?
 
@ScarletAmaranth It would definitely help me with my anime habit.
 
this open source game turned 20 freeciv.org
that's a lot of open source gamedev
 
@wilx The window is maximum 64K. With window-scale option it can be increased to 4^32. But, you can't go higher than that because TCP uses 32-bit sequence numbers.
 
user1804599
3:31 PM
Steam is doing a Volkswagen.
 
user1804599
 
@Elyse working as intended. If you minimized steam, you obviously are doing something else, so it doesn't hog all your bandwidth! :p
 
@StackedCrooked Interesting. What about TCPv6, does it solve this one particular issue?
 
user1804599
Interesting that network speed is so much higher than disk speed though.
 
user1804599
3:33 PM
Maybe it buffers a lot in RAM.
 
The maximum number of unacked bytes that the TCP is allowed to send is at most 2^32. (not 4^32 sorry)
@wilx No.
 
ACK
 
user1804599
Hi guy
 
user1804599
@wilx AWK
 
3:34 PM
@wilx However, this limit applies to a single connection. If you can somehow spread the load over multiple connections then you can go higher.
There's a lot of research going on about that currently.
 
@StackedCrooked I see. What about using SCTP then? :)
 
Afaik, STCP is a slight modification to the original TCP. It changes the multiplicative-decrease-factor in case of loss. And it has different congestion window growth strategy.
Actually, TCP is super stupid.
STCP is smarter.
 
@StackedCrooked SCTP not STCP.
 
TCP will keep increasing its send speed until it encounters loss. Then it gets a super severe speed penalty. After that it stupidly starts sending super fast again.
It never learns its lesson.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked That's like branch predictors!
 
3:40 PM
@wilx Oh.
 
Is SCTP widely adopted?
 
@wilx Never heard of that actually.
 
@StackedCrooked It is the future! :)
Sort of.
 
SCTP = Stream Control Transmission Protocol
STCP = Scalable Transmission Control Protocol
 
Reliable messaging, etc.
 
3:42 PM
TIL
@wilx TCP is also reliable.
Reliability is TCP's primary purpose.
 
@StackedCrooked I like how they didnt bother to make those acronyms different
 
@StackedCrooked Yes. But SCTP allows reliable message oriented communication.
 
Its totally not confusing
 
Ok.
TCP works stream-based. UDP works record-based. I suppose SCTP is like a TCP/UDP overlord protocol.
^ Somehow I keep listening to this on Saturdays.
 
user1804599
Use ZeroMQ.
 
3:47 PM
tcp-over-zero-mq
 
user1804599
typically it's the other way around :P
 
mq-over-zero-tcp?
 
Ven
@Morwenn all good, thanks
 
user1804599
I like that ZeroMQ supports so many underlying protocols.
 
I never got what zmq solves for me - then again most of our code runs on clouds and those have queue primitives anyway.
 
Ven
3:53 PM
it's already webscale if it's in the cloud
 
lol, not that.
I mean, if I need to message between things it's either containers or vms anyway and not processes - and the platform typically provides a nice way to do that that's aware of the environment and is fault tolerant.
 
@StackedCrooked Yup.
 
user1804599
@BenjaminGruenbaum someone has to implement those PaaS solutions. :P
 
user1804599
How would you translate let { x = f y; y = g x } in h x y to use fix instead of recursive let?
 
user1804599
4:04 PM
Where fix :: forall a. (a -> a) -> a.
 
well, you could just pull direct denotational semantics out of it, after having desugared let
 
Today my #Koolu PC stopped running. After a respectable 99+ months of always-on, fanless operation! You'll be missed https://t.co/o8hIi15MvI
Thank you twitter for translating my transparent background to... "kaki"?
Does anyone see what I did here to deserve the downvotes? stackoverflow.com/a/33709050/85371
 
Ven
you questioned motives
 
user1804599
@ScarletAmaranth I don't know how to desugar it.
 
4:16 PM
@sehe I never kepts a computer for 8 years... well not without changing most of the parts anyway
 
@Borgleader Me neither. But this was my mail/web server thingie the majority of the time.
Which reminds me, part of my homepage are now down :(
:D
 
Ven
i didn't comment about that
 
(Actually, I didn't, I made it very clear that the "valid" motive was not a feature of Signals2)
 
@Elyse well perhaps you could start with the usual suspect of [[let x = e in y]] being [[(\x.y)e]]
 
user1804599
No, you can't.
 
user1804599
4:19 PM
And that's not usual at all.
 
user1804599
It has different typing rules.
 
this is perfectly usual
 
user1804599
let x = e in y allows x to be of a polytype whereas (\x.y)e does not.
 
user1804599
This is why HM has let as a primitive.
 
4:21 PM
I can't see why that should matter in regards of extracting denotation?
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
Fallout 4 automatically set its video settings for ultra quality.
 
user1804599
Not sure if that's such a good idea. :D
 
Fallou 4 apparently thinks your computer can handle it :p
 
@Elyse In Gamespot's video review it was mentioned that the graphics are kinda outdated.
 
4:29 PM
@StackedCrooked As @ElimGarak put it last night "Reskinned Skyrim"
 
you could perhaps fix to enforce compositionality directly within definition! @Elyse [[let { xi = ei } in y]] = [[(\x1...xn).y]] (fix [[\(x1...xn).(e1...en)]]) - where x1...xn is just product of x1 trough xn
 
woop woop. That's interesting stuff right there
That not-so-subtle background music though
Reminding me a little bit too much of the christian meetings/conferences I have had the pleasure to visit in my youth
 
Ven
@sehe "that's simple: islam is the truth" now that's having one's head stuck in their own arsehole
 
Oh yeah, that fallacious response was epic
I was referring to the whole vid for the general gist though
 
Ven
"that is the best punishment ever for humankind" it's like they're going to disneyland!
 
4:41 PM
A Good Day To Die Hard is awesome. Funny!
 
Yeah. It's about the point they're making though. Honestly, I think we have to detract a little for badwagon and sample bias effects, but still
 
"You have done this before?" :-)
 
I'm curious. Some people claim that it's Islam the problem, not the radicals. And some other say it's not, because Christianity and other religions also have murder and death penalties associated with the word of God.
I wonder how true is that.
 
Pffft. That's not what I posted it for. Dammit
I posted it for informative value.
 
sorry for being reactive.
 
4:47 PM
Are people seriously this short sighted? "Screw them all" is precisely the logic that fuels the radicals
 
@sehe your right.
 
It's always about the underlying motives (wealth and power in most cases). And talking about things.
 
@sehe I don't think it is.
 
@edition Too late to delete. Yeah. I can see the reaction. And I might say it if I lived in Paris. Who knows.
 
4:51 PM
I think these people are actual ideologists.
 
Some of them are. True enough. But they are usually the peaceful ones.
In fact, the herd depicted in that conference is likely all idealist.
 
The way they see it: France bombs them so they bomb France, just like the Russian plane.
The way they see it - the western imperialists want to conquer them again and shame their religion and beliefs.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum huh
 
I think it's a twisted view of the world (like most views) and what they did is horrible and sickening.
However - that is how they see it.
In their point of view, the horrific acts of terror were them fighting back.
 
I'm really really really convinced that at the root of this is actually a power struggle. Religion is merely/mostly a demagogic device to unify the herd for support. As we all know the same religion can be used to advocate most plans. So, you have to think why it is being used for these particular plans.
 
4:55 PM
Let's see if I can get anything productive done today...
 
When I woke up today, I actually had to check whether the stuff in Paris really happened.
 
@ElimGarak Sadly it did :(
 
turns out it did!
 
Also, for some reason, I believed I had swallowed something and was choking. I hate when that happens.
 
I have many french coworkers. I'm really sad for them.
 
4:56 PM
@ElimGarak Oooh. Do less drugs :) (You were here commenting and debating quite thoughtfully...)
 
Last night must have been terrible.
 
@sehe of course it's a power struggle.
 
@ElimGarak Yeah. That's terrifying
 
Ven
@fredoverflow It was pretty fun
It wasn't that bad of a talk
 
I don't think it's fueled by religion - I think it's fueled by shame and disrespect.
 
4:57 PM
People learn the value of "fairness" as toddlers. The single most rage-inducing thing for humans: unfairness
@BenjaminGruenbaum Closer. Yeah. And some factions of power corruption that want to gain power from it
 
I'd put "I'm not being heard" and "I'm not being respected" right up there with unfairness but yeah.
 
Same thing, really
 
@sehe but it should be a fun thing to write
 
@sehe exactly - it's much easier to fuel a people whose honor has been trampled over.
 
not so fun right now though, so stuck
 
4:58 PM
@JohanLarsson Depends on the specs and definition of fun
@JohanLarsson How do you specify "semantic"
 
Ven
@sehe which is not really interesting, because everyone has their own definition of fairness. and every single one of them is biased :P
 

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