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Ell
8:00 PM
The song Polish Girl by Neon Indian is so good
 
@StackedCrooked It's the lowest voted answer of the month. :)
 
@Mysticial of August? :D
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I've been sitting on cakes all of my life? :O
 
@StackedCrooked Past 30 days. Even more impressive. :D
 
Ell
8:01 PM
@Xeo I guess if you're struggling you could just write a script that changes, launches, then changes back?
 
Xeo
system locale change needs a restart
 
Ell
Ah I see
I'm off to get drunk anyways :P
 
@Xeo rsync on halt :v
 
@Xeo If you figure out those paths, junction points trickery?
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Even simple symlinks would do
but that needs me to start the game, make a save, see where it put it, and then symlink that to somewhere in the game's directory
 
8:03 PM
I thought that was what junction points were about.
 
Xeo
for every game :/
@LucDanton oh, dunno, I thought they were something different from hardlinks / symlinks
 
Just keep the damn saves on the VM
 
thanks man you helped me solving the problem.. I still would like to make it shorter like in just one line but since it works it's ok ! — oibroth 1 hour ago
 
speaking of cakes though, this is the true cake for me
 
Whatever you need them for on your host if you can't run that shit anyway
 
8:05 PM
I hate cake.
 
hey I played that game
on a PSX emulator
 
@StackedCrooked dammit I like it
for a moment a thought about a T-shirt with a screenshot from an eroge VN
 
get a T-shirt with a screenshot from katawa shoujo
 
@AlexM. lol
 
saying something like "No matter how many limbs you have, I'll still fuck you"
 
8:16 PM
@AlexM. didn't play it. 'cuz it looks kinda weird to me. yet
 
I have it installed, but haven't played it.
 
it's nice
 
hmm
 
I'm just not sure how accurate it is with... anything
 
even if I got accepted at codementor, would swamp internet even be reliable enough to mentor anybody?
 
8:18 PM
@Puppy have you applied to any jobs yet?
 
yep, I did.
not as many as I should have done.
 
@Puppy mentor? why do you wanna do it?
 
@Puppy at least you're making progress, so it's a good sign
 
I really don't think camera feed is that important
 
@Abyx The money's good, I've got the skill, and it can be done remotely for basically no cost to me.
@CatPlusPlus Me neither.
 
8:19 PM
Besides webcams are so shitty few dropped frames here and there won't make a difference
 
@Puppy a mentoring skill? why you don't help noobs here then?
 
because that does not pay my rent.
 
You get paid there :v
 
well I think it's more about having a special mentoring mindset rather than a monetary motivation
 
Argh coworkers leaving broken migrations after merging
Nobody thinks to try fresh run
I really need to get the fuckin CI up and running there
 
8:21 PM
once Puppy starts mentoring we should all join codementor and spam him with requests
 
@AlexM. Pay me and I'll be happy to mentor you.
 
it's a small price to pay for fun
 
I can annoy Puppy here for free, why would I go there
 
@Puppy ow you're no fun
 
you wanna give money to the puppy?
it's not like he's a camwhore
 
8:22 PM
could be if you pay enough
 
I don't want that
 
that's an interesting topic
 
although I don't know who'd want to pay to see a fat English man
 
what is puppy willing to do for enough money
 
I'm not into male animals
 
8:22 PM
lol
 
can you place buttons in spreadsheet cells?
nah that sounds illogical
I'm looking at the wrong solution
 
you're the wrong solution
 
that's because I'm a VS solution
 
fuckin' VS ICEs on my code.
it's just an extra if.
seriously.
@StackedCrooked: Internal Server Error?
 
how do you make a compiler throw errors?
I never ever did anything that resulted in something like that
with any language
 
8:26 PM
I've done that with GCC.
 
@Puppy yes, every day
 
It wasn't anything special like overloading nesting levels.
 
rebooting..
 
oakydoaky
 
@AlexM. try Visual Studio
 
8:31 PM
@AlexM. You write C++ and then try to compile it with Microsoft C++ compiler
 
> Microsoft C++ compiler
 
you forgot the Optimizing
 
do y'all say 'im-ger' or 'image-er'?
 
the latter I think
at least in my head
don't think I've ever said it out loud
sometimes I have internal pronunciations for internet things that are physically impossible to vocalise :D
like when you're dreaming and trying to take a photo in the dream and it doesn't work, because your subconscious realises that light-based recording devices cannot physically exist in that universe
 
Former.
 
8:38 PM
@LucDanton few, so I'm not the only one
 
Erm, is n3690 a C++11 draft or later?
 
later.
 
there needs to be an easy place to look that up
 
Anybody working in a dark editor theme and found it painful to frequently switch to bright webpages?
 
I have my browser open in another monitor.
 
8:52 PM
@LucDanton Later (May of 2013).
 
Did we finally manage to write a FAQ regarding indices?
Amazing. My GCC copy has a constexpr std::tuple_cat, but not std::get.
 
Fuck, this is worth knowing. Shut down Chrome when you're not using it!
 
Alright, that made no sense :D turns out that GCC decided to emit a bogus warning about the expression not being a valid constant expression, but from what I can tell that warning was emitted due to another, unrelated error. Fixing the program gets rid of errors and it all compiles.
 
Shut down Chrome forever
 
ooo it won’t let me take the address I think, thankfully I don’t need that
 
Xeo
9:06 PM
@modeller Yes, always
even with browser open on another screen
@LucDanton Don't think so
 
Oh I meant to say ‘in the end’, not ‘finally’.
 
Xeo
Still "Don't think so" :P
 
I just wrote my first useful gnome-shell extension. I feel like one of my hymens has broken.
 
What is the protocol when you have asked a question. A good answer has been given. And I just need a little bit of clarification?
 
9:12 PM
Write a comment.
no need to post it here
 
I just fear its expiry date has passed.
 
@thecoshman I say the former too
 
@CaptainGiraffe The author of the answer will get a notification.
 
whoa, I threw some water on the existing flaky ice in the freezer and it almost instantly turned into a smooth layer of ice
 
that's the sort of thing a goat herder would do
 
9:15 PM
goat herders don't even have freezers
 
Dammit, @harold isn't here. He's probably the one best equipped to test my hypothesis for:
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Q: Replacing 32bit loop count variable with 64bit introduces crazy performance deviations

gexicideI was looking for the fastest way to popcount large arrays of data. I encountered a very weird effect: Changing the loop variable from unsigned to uint64_t made the performance drop by 50% on my PC. The Benchmark #include <iostream> #include <chrono> #include <x86intrin.h> int main(int argc, c...

 
thank God for drugs.
 
@Puppy thank drug companies for drugs.
 
nah.
 
@Puppy I thank God for insulin, polio vaccine and the upcoming malaria vaccine.
 
9:18 PM
drugs were invented by scientists.
 
pedantry
 
they're the ones who deserve to be thanked.
 
oh yea, this is the Lounge
 
your mother's the Lounge
 
thank you visual studio
very fucking useful
 
9:20 PM
who the fuck is harold?
try not to randomly make people up plzkthx
 
I couldn't care less about Harold. I'm just happy; really happy; that the while(true) is faster than while(true) is off the radar.
 
why is it so complicated to rename a class in VS O_o
in Eclipse I'd just right click on it, choose Refactor then Rename
and quickly do it
it seems I don't have the Refactor menu
is this because I'm using Express
seriously, you can't rename classes in Express
my god.
 
I wondered, if I read from a file in one process and write to it from another process, do I need to protect the read/write with a global mutex?
 
48
A: Why is Visual C++ lacking refactor functionality?

JSBձոգչThe syntax and semantics of C++ make it incredibly difficult to correctly implement refactoring functionality. It's possible to implement something relatively simple to cover 90% of the cases, but in the remaining 10% of cases that simple solution will horribly break your code by changing things ...

it seems it's not Express related
 
Hello everyone, is there a way to initialize an array with -1 without using an stl function or loop?
 
9:25 PM
std::memcpy
 
{-1} there you go.
 
write -1 instead of the usual 0
or what Giraffe said
 
I want to change this int a[4] = {-1,-1,-1,-1} into a[SIZE] where SIZE is defined somewhere else
so will {-1} set all members to -1, or just the first filling the rest with 0?
 
Xeo
just first
 
Try it out, or use a vector constructor.
 
9:27 PM
All those compilers with no trait aliases ._.
 
@AlexM. s/refactor //
 
lol
 
@Puppy ew, freak
 
@thecoshman What?
 
9:29 PM
is std::array::assign Microsoft's doing?
 
user3010322
It's another Bartek!
 
and is it like a replacement for std::array::fill?
can compiler vendors just create their own stuff outside the standard, like that?
 
@AlexM. Yes the standard does provide leeway
 
yup, can't find assign anywhere else outside MSDN
 
I guess fill would work for me, thanks for help
 
9:32 PM
Ie. a compiler can support a main function like `int main(int argc, char *[]argv, double *);
 
@CaptainGiraffe It can provide as many overloads for main as it likes. However, that is not "outside of the standard"; the standard allows it, explicitly. Randomly adding shit to std:: is NOT okay.
@CaptainGiraffe So, no, that's not true.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Pretty sure it is.
 
> [C++11: 17.6.4.2.1/1]: The behavior of a C++ program is undefined if it adds declarations or definitions to namespace std or to a namespace within namespace std unless otherwise specified. A program may add a template specialization for any standard library template to namespace std only if the declaration depends on a user-defined type and the specialization meets the standard library requirements for the original template and is not explicitly prohibited.
#hth
 
that's for user code, not implementation code.
 
and the distinction is....?
 
9:43 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Of course I object to your statement.
 
> compiler vendors
 
oh yes I forgot, Puppy is a compiler vendor now
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That implementations can do whatever they want.
The relevant quote is 17.6.5.5 [member.functions] paragraph 1:

An implementation may declare additional non-virtual member function signatures within a class:
--- by adding arguments with default values to a member function signature;
— by replacing a member function signature with default values by two or more member function signatures with equivalent behavior; and
— by adding a member function signature for a member function name.
 
@Puppy that's more like it
 
that's for members, specifically, but I imagine similar exists for free functions.
 
9:44 PM
But, no, they can't do "whatever they want"
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The implementation is not "a C++ program"
 
@Puppy eh? no, I just quoted the passage that bans it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit For users. Not implementations.
 
Will you two stop repeating that bullshit?
Code that is shipped with an implementation that is not defined by the standard as part of its standard library, is user code.
With only the exceptions you find in the standard.
(Like the one you just quoted)
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit err, no?
 
9:46 PM
the contents of Standard-defined headers are considered to be part of the implementation, if they are implemented as actual headers.
 
Show me where implementations are allowed to add free functions, then.
 
the implementation has great leeway to do whatever the fuck it wants in those headers, since their contents are, by definition, implementation-defined.
 
Xeo
Guess what reserved names are for
 
Is std::_Vector_base "user code"?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The implementation doesn't need explicit permission to add new functions. The Standard requirements are minimum.
 
9:47 PM
So sad when Loungers are so wrong
An implementation can add to C++ but then it's not C++ any more
 
Xeo
...
 
Again, except as allowed, as above
This is obvious stuff.
Unless you're claiming that C++/CLI is valid C++ now.
ok bad example
 
Xeo
sigh
whatever
 
(cos syntax)
 
well, I don't remember that much about C++/CLI offhand, but I don't know of any programs in C++/CLI that are well-defined by Standard that exhibit non-conforming behaviour.
feel free to point one out, though, since like I said, I don't remember that much about it offhand.
 
9:50 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's complete nonsense. The standard explicitly allows for extensions, which are not mandated by the standard, but are still part of the implementation, not part of a program.
 
@TonyTheLion @luc apparently it is supposed to be the latter :S
 
the award for non sequitur message goes to @thecoshman
 
I don’t care. They should have put in the letters if they wanted it that way!
 
niculare that is not really important here. i am trying to write multi threaded :) — MonsterMMORPG Mar 2 '13 at 12:27
I don't know what to say... if you read the answer, this comment is just face-palm
 
:laffo: if you press down/up arrow when YT video is loading the throbber turns into a controllable snake
 
Xeo
9:53 PM
Wow you're late.
 
lolwat
 
Not using the keyboard much on YT
 
@TonyTheLion youch
@CatPlusPlus I can't tell cos my internet is so fast
 
17.6.5.4 states that an implementation may not add extra free functions, if they will be picked instead of a Standard function for a well-defined call.
187)A valid C++ program always calls the expected library global or non-member function. An implementation may also define additional global or non-member functions that would otherwise not be called by a valid C++ program.
 
My connection to YT is always crappy regardless of anything
 
9:56 PM
A call to a global or non-member function signature described in Clauses 18 through 30 and Annex D shall behave as if the implementation declared no additional global or non-member function signatures. 187
basic as-if rule here.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus FWIW, it doesn't have to be loading
@Puppy Thanks for putting up with the twat.
I was too lazy to even open the standard to check for this
 
wasn't me.
5
Q: What are the rules for function pointers and member function pointers to Standard functions?

PuppyWhat are the existing rules for taking function pointers or member function pointers to Standard functions? For example, something like auto p = &std::string::size; Is this legal? Would it be more or less legal if I explicitly requested the correct type, so it would function even if there was ...

I knew I had the question asked somewhere which explicitly referenced these rules.
 
see what, that we were totally correct all along, the as-if rule applies, and the implementation can, as usual, do whatever the fuck it wants that's not observable to Standard-conforming programs?
 
@TonyTheLion I like how LRIO just read this too
 
10:01 PM
@sehe hmm?
 
@ThePhD indeed. swamped
 
penny in the air...
 
@sehe huh?
 
No way. Nobody gets the obvious these days.
Now. Drop it.
Not the ball. Not the bass.

The penny, you dummy :)
 
...and the penny drops.
thanks
I need an awesome space movie to watch
 
10:04 PM
It's funny that you can follow random links from he lounge and improbable late comments sprout simultaneously as if by magic
 
definitely do not watch Star Trek... either of them.
they are distinctly not awesome.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit stream a Kerbal session
 
have you seen District 9?
 
@sehe I hadn't seen that he commented
 
@sehe no
@Puppy not yet tbh
 
10:05 PM
@TonyTheLion You can look though :)
 
@TonyTheLion I obviously commented because you posted a link to it. No idea what @sehe's going on about
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Then see it. It is great.
 
@Puppy too late
@Puppy orly
 
yarly
 
set on Earth iirc
 
10:06 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I liked that you did this. While I was casually browsing that question.
 
mostly
 
not sure why this is suddenly so amazing to you since it happens daily, but ok
 
I guess it depends on exactly what you want from "Space movie".
 
10:06 PM
now find me a space movie
@Puppy a movie, set in space
 
I didn't think it was amazing. I liked it. Is all
 
Star Wars
 
D9 is full of aliens and awesome futuristic weapons, plus it's actually good, so
 
@TonyTheLion that I haven't seen
@Puppy well I was originally going to ask for sci-fi/aliens, but decided I wanted actual space
 
hm
Razor/The Plan?
 
10:07 PM
seen
 
Blood and Chrome?
 
in fact I rewatched Razor fairly recently while drunk
same
all BSG is out
seen all of it at least five times over
& unfortunately Razor and The Plan are boring in the middle on the rewatch
 
well
 
ooh on a tangent I haven't watched the Hunger Games yet
 
TBQFH I thought that The Plan really reveals where the problems with BSG started.
when The Plan ends.
 
10:08 PM
I didn't like The Hunger Games that much
 
District 9 is way better than Hunger Games.
 
ok no hunger Games then
(evened out the capitalisation)
I could watch Gravity again, but I don't want to get bored of it
this shouldn't be hard
 
well I heard that the new Ender's Game film was OK
 
(inb4 "it's not")
 
10:10 PM
I haven't actually seen it.
 
@Puppy I want to see that
not sure why
 
@Puppy not sure why but it doesn't interest me that much
kik
 
well, IMO the Ender's Game book is mostly, once you've read it there's not much reason to read it again.
and it's not like the other Ender's Game stuff is particularly compelling.
Orson Scott Card wrote one good book, then decided he couldn't stand all the gays, then wrote a bunch of crap.
 
void one_time_brain(int h);
void one_time_brain_for_real(int h);
this seems to be a recurring theme in dink smallwood's source code
there's always a method that does something
and a method that does something FOR REAL
 
mysql_real_escape_string
 
10:15 PM
Elyisum maybe
shame I won't find anything as gorgeous as Oblivion again
 
Elysium is supposedly p bad
 
fuck it, I'm goin to bed.
 
ahahahah
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Q: Why are my struct's members not properly initialised using `{}`?

Lightness Races in OrbitI had the following code: #include <iostream> struct T { int a, b, c; }; int main() { T t = {0}; std::cout << t.a << ',' << t.b << ',' << t.c << '\n'; } Output: 0,0,0 After many years of this code running happily in a critical production environment, serving a vital function, the...

 
user3010322
10:32 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Lol, it got marked as a dupe?
 
@ThePhD inorite
 
10:48 PM
Thanks ... please dont say it to my mom xD — BrainStack 1 min ago
 
he'll be grounded for asking for help on SO
 
#jedzjabłka
 
random comment
 
hi
 
10:59 PM
hi
 

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