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7:00 PM
L90 doesn't have LTE.
I'm going to tell my friend to get her own S3.
 
Ell
SD cards are slow unless you pay a lot anyway
I think the Motorola Moto G LTE is a good phone
it has SD card slot as well
and it relatively cheap but not underpowered
*GB internal storage + sd card slot up to 32GB
 
posted on July 07, 2014 by Eric Battalio

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What do you do on your phone to notice the slow?
 
Xeo
Hey Robot, that show's for you :D
 
Ell
all this for £150
 
7:03 PM
(I already own an SD card so it has zero cost now)
 
Ell
plus quad core qualcom processor
I really find it astonishingly good value
@R.MartinhoFernandes Multitasking I guess?
 
Er.
Multitasking I/O bound tasks on a phone?
 
Xeo
Crap, I'm hungry
 
Ell
just switching between apps
 
@Ell So playin a youtube video while editing server configurations over ssh?
 
Ell
7:04 PM
@CaptainGiraffe yup :P
 
Apps don't go on the SD card.
They go in RAM
 
Ell
Yeah
I'm confused as to what we're talking about now
I think I answered a question directed at someone else didn't I?
 
What's slow with SD cards
 
@AlexM. Yes, but that assumes that I need that much storage. It's cheaper to just not roll with an SD slot or more flash memory.
I only need like, 4-8GB tops.
 
Face it, the only thing that would cause you pain with a slow SD card would be hidef video capture.
 
7:06 PM
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And yeah. We're talking phones here not cameras.
 
Ell
seriously this is the best value phone I can find amazon.co.uk/Moto-8GB-Sim-Free-Smartphone/dp/B00KB0YDBG/…
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and downloading things to it, I think
 
Ell
and the speaker is loud as well (although not front facing)
 
I always download songs with my phone
I almost never transfer through usb lol
 
7:07 PM
@AlexM. Nah
 
You notice it downloading music?
 
@AlexM. I'm not sure I want to know the sound quality of your music :v
 
sounds fine
I don't have amazing headphones anyway
when I'll get some, I'll just switch to FLAC
 
aaaa audiophiles run for the hills
 
indeed
 
7:10 PM
gives final hit to audiophiles
I use the default headphones the phone came with
 
You're worse than Cat.
 
hey htc one headphones are pretty good
 
I avoid headphones whenever I can now
 
who came up with this char table for c++ I mean clubs, spades, weird shapes that look like roads couldn't they have come up with something better to put in there
 
7:11 PM
low quality audio really irks me
 
There's low quality and there's OMG ITS BELOW 1000KBPS
 
and I mean actual low quality audio
Like YouTube audio quality always pisses me off
 
There's low quality and there's SO questions
 
I'm okay with >=320kbps
 
That's why we don't read SO questions :v
We don't go to SOholm no more
 
7:13 PM
they could have easily fit the entire greek alphabet in this table if they took out these strange chars, srsly dumb imo
 
@Rapptz all of my mp3s are 320kbps
 
any recommendation which to use? ty. — user3547202 1 min ago
re debugger
sigh
 
one that works?
 
@AaronKyleKilleen What
 
@AaronKyleKilleen What are you talking about?
Unicode != C++'s char
by a long shot
 
7:14 PM
@CatPlusPlus i just couted all of the c++ chars in a loop and there are some dumb ass choices in their selection imo
 
Also 160kbps best kbps
@AaronKyleKilleen Oh, so you have actually no idea what you're talking about, okay
 
lol
 
lol if I were my networking prof I'd have done something like
1) unicast - ...
2) multicast - ...
3) broadcast - ...
4) raycast - this doesn't really have anything to do with networking, carry on
 
Facecast
@LightnessRacesinOrbit YER OLD
 
7:16 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit — Mark Yu 35 secs ago
Good point, well made.
 
@catplusplus I'm just saying what are these smiley faces and things that look like roads doing in here when they don't even have the entire greek alphabet
 
Xeo
> sir
ABANDON SHIP
 
@StackedCrooked lol?
also, why does it print chinese/japanese/whatever?
 
7:18 PM
Edit > Compile
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: I'm just saying what are these smiley faces and things that look like roads doing in here when they don't even have the entire greek alphabet [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [c++-faq]
 
what is it with youtube videos that have like, 3 minutes of silence at the end?
 
bad uploaders
 
Xeo
shitty editors
 
People being idiots, as usual
 
7:19 PM
@Puppy windows movie maker
 
@Jefffrey Because those are valid UTF8.
 
it takes years of training to master it
 
WMM is so bad
 
@Xeo I wasn't ever on the ship, so thank god I don't have to abandon it either.
 
@Puppy I thought C++'s char could only ASCII
 
7:20 PM
why doesn't it compile from the share link o.O
 
@Jefffrey Half the problem is that on some systems, it can do more, if you use it right.
 
@Jefffrey sigh
 
@Jefffrey er...
 
Robot
 
@Jefffrey that old nugget, eh
 
7:20 PM
@Jefffrey C++ char is just a 1 byte data type.
 
Xeo
@Puppy Err
 
take them away
 
@Jefffrey C++ has no control over how your browser interprets bytes...
 
WTF GUYS
 
7:21 PM
well, you can probably coax more out of it on virtually any system if you have sufficiently giant balls.
 
My browser went numb for a second there
 
Xeo
char can do more on all systems. In particular, it can be part of a UTF-8 byte sequence
 
too many pings
 
TIL @Jefffrey doesn't know the first thing about character encoding. That it exists, for instance.
 
Xeo
which need not be valid ASCII characters
 
7:21 PM
My brain went numb
 
but you can't really output UTF-8 to the Windows console.
 
Sure you can
 
@Jefffrey strictly speaking... yes char should only hold ASCII; UTF-8 should be stored in unsigned chars
 
STOP ABUSING COMMAS @MGETZ FFS
 
hm, isn't there some undocumented CRT function that can do it?
 
7:22 PM
It won't work, because Windows console subsystem is a steaming pile of shit, but that's another matter
 
I think it's very much the same matter, really.
 
fecal matter
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit semi-colons considered annoying, deprecated and replaced with commas
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit there now I'm abusing semicolons
 
@Rapptz is that a recursive definition? IIRC a "byte" in the C++ standard is 1 char, which is >= 8 bits.
 
7:23 PM
@Xeo if you're going to "replace them", replace them with full stops.
@Mgetz nope, that's as it should be. thank you.
 
@Jefffrey no recursion here.
 
Xeo
full stops considered annoying, deprecated and replaced with commas
 
@Xeo Xeo considered annoying; he has now been deprecated and replaced with NOTHING
 
@Puppy Output UTF8 and redirect it to file and it works perfectly fine
 
Xeo
Nope, still here
 
7:23 PM
@Rapptz so, with byte you actually mean "8 bits", not "C++ standard byte"?
 
> So, with byte you actually mean "octet", not "byte"?
 
Xeo
CHAR_BITet
 
That receiver cannot handle an encoding doesn't mean "char can't" whatever that would mean
 
I'm asking what's all this crap for? imgur.com/ggRWc0c
 
Repeat after me
char is byte
 
Xeo
7:25 PM
@AaronKyleKilleen labyrinth games in a terminal, duh.
 
Bytes don't have intrinsic meaning
 
@CatPlusPlus it's more of a safety thing as the representation of the sign of a char is not guaranteed. It's that whole abstract machine thing...
 
@AaronKyleKilleen What?
 
@Mgetz What no it doesn't matter
 
@CatPlusPlus right but somewhere along the line where ever the decision was made to put this in it was put in and I'm saying that's dumb, I don't want to get into a philosophical discussion with you
 
7:25 PM
@CatPlusPlus Well, yes, it does.
@AaronKyleKilleen What sort of discussion would you like, then?
 
So, by the standard char can indeed only ASCII. On some platforms (therefore not necessarily portable), it could do more.
 
INTERNAL REPRESENTATION IS NOT EXTERNAL REPRESENTATION
 
Ell
Yaaaayyyyy it worked!
 
char is really badly named
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey wa
 
7:26 PM
@Jefffrey The two are not realistically distinct. There's virtually no production platforms today where it's different.
 
Ell
Turned out I wasn't using https :'(
 
Xeo
guy
stahp
 
byte would be a better name for it
 
@CatPlusPlus right so it was the windows people who did this
 
@Jefffrey On some systems it can only EBCDIC.
 
7:26 PM
@CatPlusPlus whoever it was is dumb, that's all I'm saying
 
Ell
I still don't think you should be able to do anything with a char
until you cast it to something
 
guys
GUYS
I went to mcdonald's yesterday
and I saw a woman
 
@Ell char is dumb as fucknuggets but that's no surprise really.
 
O_o
 
@AaronKyleKilleen I'll just summarise that as "shut up kthx"
 
7:27 PM
@Mgetz THEY DIDN'T ADD CHAR8_T.
 
> fucknuggets
 
and it was fucking retarded
 
Ell
I think it should just be called byte and you should have to cast it to do anything with it
 
My new favorite word
 
Ell
:17567303 they added int8_t
and uint8_t
 
7:27 PM
there's char16_t and char32_t but no char8_t.
 
I'm gonna make a game and you'll be generic RPG monsters
 
the whole thing is dumb as AKK.
 
"You got hit by dumb encoding talk, you lose 30 SAN"
 
@Puppy lol is that a thing now
 
Ell
That sounds fun
I gotta go to the pub now guise
 
7:29 PM
It's monday you alcoholic
 
@AlexM. Yeah, I think it's my official new byline.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes I checked this snippet in the latest compiler VC++ and it behaves as intended.
 
I think we scared off @Jefffrey. Poor sod
 
user3010322
So that should be fine.
 
@CatPlusPlus I think a normal person who isn't trying to be a dick would understand what I was asking and not get into encoding issues
 
user3010322
7:30 PM
If you have any other breaks, let me know and I can check them against the latest build.
 
anyway, yesterday's success was because this was the first time a clerk caused a misunderstanding in which me and a woman were involved, and the chick didn't force a pitiful smile for me
I got two smiles and a short talk out of all that, great success
 
Read Wikipedia on how the entire thing evolved and maybe you'll understand why 8-bit encodings encode what they encode
maybe
 
then I went home with the food and proceeded to get more fat while playing quake live
 
I tried that once
I didn't get all that far
 
@TonyTheLion Nah, I'm just trying to find the non-existent part of the standard that I've apparently imagined.
 
7:31 PM
good luck :)
Where is the days I ventured into reading the C++ standard.
 
So, char is just a byte. Nothing else.
 
@Jefffrey Um, no.
 
ok, I give up
 
That's a good thing to do when C++ is involved yes
 
Xeo
7:33 PM
pff
you all be wusses
 
You otoh are a masochist :v
 
oh man, the C++ standard takes raw balls to read
and if you go balls deep, it hurts
 
@Jefffrey The last time I stated that as a common thing, I had 5 compilers for at least 10 different hardware systems tossed at me. The biggest char was 24 bits.
 
@CaptainGiraffe That doesn't imply that they're meaningfully common, though.
 
7:34 PM
Chrome shit at DNS
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus He is the Overload Overlord, he has to be a bit of a masochist.
 
Also a byte isn't always 8 bits
 
Pssst byte is not always 8 bit, but that doesn't make it non-byte
 
@Puppy It is not your desktop environment, true. c++::std never said it should be.
 
@ThePhD That's gotta be the zone boss
 
7:36 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Lasers.
I'm all up for it.
 
Xeo
@ThePhD I like the nicknames you give us.
 
I'm kinda afraid to ask what I got
 
Xeo
Template Templar, Overload Overlord, what was the third?
 
Is the encoding of a char unspecified? I can't find shit in the standard.
 
Xeo
...
 
7:37 PM
11 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
INTERNAL REPRESENTATION IS NOT EXTERNAL REPRESENTATION
 
@Jefffrey it's the sign bit that presents the issue
 
@Jefffrey It's about as specified as the width of the hair on your ass.
 
char is literally just a byte
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't understand what do you mean
 
inb4 hitler
 
7:38 PM
godwin?
oh my...
 
Xeo
A char has no inherent "encoding"
 
@Jefffrey Hitler.
 
@TonyTheLion are you trolling?
 
@Jefffrey Why would I be trolling?
 
6 mins ago, by Jefffrey
So, char is just a byte. Nothing else.
 
Xeo
7:38 PM
@Puppy You're doing it wro-oh wait, you can't move messages. Never mind. ♥
 
@Jefffrey You were correct there
don't listen to Giraffe man
 
@Xeo What has that got to do with that message?
tony make me an owner
 
Xeo
1 min ago, by Tony The Lion
inb4 hitler
 
12 mins ago, by Tony The Lion
char is really badly named
 
@Puppy lol
 
7:40 PM
@Puppy Man I got hated on for that last time. The question is, do I really want to be subject of such fury again?
 
@Xeo What's that got to do with moving messages?
 
Xeo
sigh
 
@TonyTheLion Well, I just lost a bet that I made with myself that you would do it without question.
2
 
that was supposed to be the joke.
 
7:40 PM
@Puppy hahahah. That's actually hilarious
 
Better fury than furry
 
it would also have been funny if Xeo had said that I couldn't move messages and then you did it right away.
 
I see what opinion you hold of me? :P
 
that I made a bet that you would be my mindless stooge good friend?
 
you wanting a friend? hahahaha
 
7:49 PM
hey
puppies need love and friendship too
they just don't need the friendship of every random dude who comes in here with a question he couldn't answer in the first five minutes.
 
daaang it's near 40C outside...
 
@Mgetz I got 31C inside... Should not have baked that bread.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Air Conditioning FTW
 
@Mgetz I found N. Cages performance shallow and pedantic. Did not care for his hairdo either.
 
Urgh yeoman can diff the conflicting file but an option to run merge tool? NOPE
 
7:53 PM
So I'm getting this weird error where I try to pass a pointer to a function it says it isn't compatible with itself. "argument of type 'Mesh *' is incompatible with parameter of type 'Mesh *'"
 
You cant alter the comment after I make it a pun! That is a clear violation of the rules.
 
@CaptainGiraffe yeah I think Nicholas Cage is pretty overrated too
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/24618049/… here's where I posted it but I'm getting downvoted for some weird reason.
 
oh my god we don't care
Also Firefox is freezing up urgh I hate browsers
 
I tested it in an inline fashion and the error doesn't occur when the function is defined in the same file its being passed to, is the object in question not being seen as the same object for some reason?
 
7:56 PM
@CatPlusPlus I hate everything ... askubuntu.com/questions/322071/…
 
@RaenirSalazar here's one: ya dumped it here
 
It's not even complete code what a shitty question jesus
Why is it so hard
 
@RaenirSalazar It's not a testcase.
@Puppy Not a good reason to downvote. Downvote the post, not the person.
 
@RaenirSalazar Are we supposed to guess things? Ok, here it goes: your problem is on line 33.
 
@RaenirSalazar More than likely you have static initialisation order problems.
 
7:59 PM
static initialization?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I would love to but can't, so gotta make do.
but since he has posted nowhere near enough for a repro then the post itself deserves a downvote fair and square.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You are either divine; a magician; or just really good. You might be wrong too.
 

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