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4:00 PM
I've put a shovel of Wag into his bowl too, though he doesn't deserve it.

How are your holes today?
 
good
 
Well, that's a relief:)
 
doctor said that the alarming red, yellow, and blue is totally normal and normally takes like, 2-3 weeks to heal.
 
@Chimera I'm learning stringly typed programming now mate
 
You're turning into a LED
6
 
4:01 PM
because it's the only thing that can allow me to do this assignment quick
so, no, sorry
no assignment at all is better than a rushed assignment for anyone involved
 
@Puppy You have three-phase bruises?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wonder why people spend so much time on that instead of playing real guitar
 
apparently
 
@BartekBanachewicz Cause it doesn't hurt your fingers so much
 
playing guitar doesn't really hurt :F
 
4:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It's fun.
 
maybe for like two first hours
then the calluses form and you're done with pain
 
fuck.
I was playing FTL and everything was going super well, like I randomly got so many weapons, augments, and drones.
then I came up against ONE pirate ship and it killed me outright.
a combat drone, a burst mk2, AND a heavy laser.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I got calluses from grabbing the bicycle handlebar.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I read that as "I got phalluses"
 
Calluses > gloves.
 
4:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz enough indeed
 
he should probably already have a phallus.
and just one at that
 
riding a bike w/o gloves is pretty stupid though
 
Ell
I rode 60 miles without gloves and my hands were bruised for the whole week :L
 
@Puppy But to play well, you need a callused phallus.
 
Ell
4:06 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey I didn't complain about it until now!
I was too distracted by the fact I didn't wear padded shorts either :L
Keep in mind this was the peak district, it was a bumpy ride :'(
 
Padded shorts are for wimps.
 
Ell
Ah well. At least I can't have pregnancy scares anymore :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ..and for those who don't want a callused phallus.
 
dat face at the end
 
why is area51 not linking correctly to my profile
 
4:09 PM
what, I forgot my homophobia pills?
 
What.
> The /Wv flag: You can use /Wv:XX.YY.ZZZZ to disable warnings that are introduced after compiler version XX.YY.ZZZZ. Notice that the emitted warnings may still differ from those emitted by the specified version.
OMG
 
oh nice find
 
> Currently, user-defined literals may generate incorrect code under /CLR. Extremely large literals are not yet supported.
What are "extremely large literals"?
 
Ell
@Puppy You are too "liberal"
 
Is that a reference to "error C2026: string too big, trailing characters truncated"?
 
4:19 PM
@Ell You can't think of anyone but yourself.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Clojure
 
Ell
@Puppy What makes you think that?
 
@Puppy What's this about?
 
what makes you think that I'm too liberal?
@R.MartinhoFernandes She looks pretty disgusted to me rather than disappointed. It's not the reaction I would have expected if his girlfriend showed up instead of another guy.
 
user1804599
You cannot be too liberal.
 
Ell
4:20 PM
I don't think you're too liberal. I think you're too "liberal"
Ie. not actually liberal
 
fuck meaningless political labels
 
@Puppy Wait, what?
 
user1804599
user image
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I'll go back to MSVC. I seem to be missing a crucial part of this.
 
@rightfold That carefully laid out text
 
4:25 PM
*clicks .gif on starboard*
*not animated*
*disappoint*
 
fuck
i think my amp is a bit fucking hot :|
the front panel is too hot to touch
 
/** \internal Allows to enable/disable an overload
  * according to a compile time condition.
  */
template<bool Condition, typename T> struct enable_if;

template<typename T> struct enable_if<true,T>
{ typedef T type; };
WTF, this is broken.
How the hell was Eigen working with this.
 
@BartekBanachewicz "suicide" = take your own life. "accident" = not deliberate. How is that an oxymoron?
(that was the last time) — Lightness Races in Orbit 12 secs ago
 
Xeo
4:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes how is that broken?
 
Primary undefined.
 
Xeo
no, that's fine
 
So, today in std-proposals someone was enlightened that optional is almost a monad, although he wasn't particularly enlightened what a monad is.
 
@Xeo No, it's not.
enable_if<false, T>::type is a hard error that way.
 
Xeo
eh
 
4:49 PM
What else should it be?
 
it should be a hard non-error
 
Oh, nothing until ::type is used
 
Xeo
it's a soft-error
It's just a substitution error
 
Um, where do you make use of test?
 
Xeo
4:50 PM
first f
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's exactly what cppreference provides as an example implementation.
 
How the hell is it.
 
Xeo
::type is not there -> substitution failure
 
FFS
When did they change break that?
 
user3010322
4:50 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you have that code that fails on MSVC but compiles on g++ that you talked about earlier?
 
That should be an error :<
 
user3010322
I am at work and have stl's build up and ready
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wasn't it always a soft-error?
@R.MartinhoFernandes eh
 
user3010322
Also, STL WENT ON VACATION I'M ALL ALONE TO FILE BUGS ;~;
 
@Xeo Pretty sure not.
 
4:51 PM
the robot is broken
 
@Xeo I don't want shit to accidentally SFINAE because I forgot to implement it.
SFINAE is messy enough as it were :<
 
what
that's... how overloading works
 
@ThePhD Are you intern in the compiler team or something
 
Xeo
 
4:52 PM
(it's also why auto is evil)
 
No, it's completely different.
 
evening
 
user3010322
@ParkYoung-Bae Not on the compiler team, but I've been maintaining an open line of communication with STL since Summer 2013.
 
ok then you know best I'm sure you're having no problems with it right now
 
4:53 PM
Today was a p productive day for me. I'm happy.
 
@ThePhD keeping one eye on the situation?
 
@ThePhD The standard library you mean
 
user3010322
When I intern here he hands me the compiler and I break it a lot.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit FWIW, I'm pretty much the only here that acknowledges your concerns with auto.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes i know l;p
 
4:54 PM
@Xeo lolwat
 
you da only clever one
 
user3010322
@ParkYoung-Bae No I mean Stephan T. Lavavej (totally right spelling, woo!)
 
@ThePhD Yeah I know
 
What I'm concerned with here is something like: 1) write primary template declaration, no definition; 2) write code that uses the template without any intention of SFINAE, i.e., if the things are not there and I want failure, not fallback to some undesired overload.
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have to. If I get any indication VC++ is going downhill I will quickly jump ship early for myself. :D
 
user3010322
4:55 PM
But I also get to file tons of bugs directly into the database.
 
`struct foo {};` is "here, an empty struct"
`struct foo;` is "a struct somewhere", and I also want it to be "DON'T YOU FUCKING ASSUME IT'S EMPTY JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE IT"
 
i'm working on this simulation program that i want to start making concurrent
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes now i understand
 
it would be trivial to split it up into independent tasks and avoid synchronization, and i want to use the fancy new c++11 stuff like std::async or some task-based stuff
 
@zounds The usual advice is to break loops, maybe start using the actor pattern if your model supports it
 
4:57 PM
the only problem is i'm not sure where to put my rng
 
This assumption of emptiness did not exist before some undetermined point in recent time, at least in the implementations.
 
i've checked the profiler and like 95% of my (single threaded) program's time is spent inside the rng
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's been there for a loooong time.
 
It's horrible.
 
@zounds Wat. What RNG are you using?
 
4:59 PM
mt19937
the logic itself is very simple; it just uses a ton of random numbers
 
@Xeo Remember "Oh result_of doesn't SFINAE"?
Why do you think that was?
 
@zounds thread local
 
does std::async have a concept of thread local?
 
Does that mean that they broke SFINAE instead of fixing result_of? :<
 
no but C++ does
 

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