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1:00 PM
javascript
 
dat flag
 
The client doesn't even have to be in browser
 
Remember when flagging was funny and not absolutely annoying???
 
I'd like a limited mobile app for example
 
Yeah me neither
 
1:01 PM
Yes I remember those times
 
@BartekBanachewicz Scope creep
 
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@BartekBanachewicz just make a responsive website.
 
@BartekBanachewicz stop being silly, yes you can use many languages to interop, but don't. It just adds more head ache
 
your comments make a lot of sense to me
I'm very thankful for them
 
the only clear division where you can split which language you implement is client/server if you go over some reasonable protocol
 
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1:03 PM
Use Prolog and Clojure for the AI.
 
TIL Minecraft was not threaded up until now.
 
Minecraft is a joke
 
@thecoshman WS is one such protocol
 
@Jefffrey FYI it's terribly coded
 
I know
 
1:03 PM
yeah Minicraft is much better
 
I wish people would stop treating threading as some magical thing everyone needs to do
 
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@BartekBanachewicz WS is a transport-level protocol.
 
@BartekBanachewicz well done, you're learning
 
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You need an application-level protocol.
 
@rightfold language-agnostic
 
1:04 PM
@CatPlusPlus vOv yeah, but come one, MC really doesn't want to be sat as one thread
 
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TBH I wonder if Haskell's type system would help me make the server secure
 
@CatPlusPlus As we all know, all Programmers Motherfucker can do it and will do it for everything.
 
It's beautiful to see how Minecraft's developers are now discovering the pros of threading.
 
as in, to prevent players from executing unintended actions
 
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1:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You can, similar to how you can limit I/O to specific scopes of your application.
 
@CatPlusPlus For something like Minecraft, yes. Threading is something magical dinnerbone needs to do.
 
@rightfold yes.
still yes.
I'm familiar with the concept and I like it a lot.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ಠ_ಠ
 
I think it's one of the places where Haskell really shines compared to the others.
 
"Threading" is a meaningless improvement anyway. All programs are threaded
 
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1:07 PM
If you have a type LevelA a and a type LevelB a and a function LevelB a -> LevelA a but no other functions, you cannot perform level A actions from within level B.
 
@rightfold That is great design yes
 
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Elaborate or shut up.
7
 
lol
 
you prolly need safe haskell for it too
 
shaskell?
 
1:08 PM
@rightfold hammer time
 
?device_id=10000413131343337303030313038 meh, that's a pretty hinky ID scheme.
 
@SamDeHaan it's a language extension for enforcing stuff like what rightfold said
 
You want "levels" to be data, not code, otherwise extending this shit will be a pain
 
(guess what it decodes to for human display)
 
Safe Haskell is more about importing external code
 
1:09 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 1337?
 
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Depends on whether they are logically (as in inherently) nested or not.
 
@BartekBanachewicz hinteresting.
 
@Jefffrey n o..
 
I have a decision tree where I reuse some attributes. The number of times an attribute can appear in the tree is a parameter - how to name that parameter? I have a name, but I think it's not easy to understand: "attribute reuse multiplicity"
 
reuse factor
 
1:10 PM
attribute occurrance limit
 
I would name it k
 
for this particular ID, because the prefix is 10000, the rest represents a particular form of serial number.. in this case A11437000108. the only real guarantee of its format is alphanumericity so short of arbitrarily subtracting 0x30 from each encoded byte I can't make it look less shit than a bunch of ASCII values
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hey that's my lucky number!
 
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It's my lucky day!
 
@thecoshman what
 
1:11 PM
any ideas
 
thanks, nice ideas @BartekBanachewicz @Puppy
 
@rightfold Liar
 
my concern is that someone's going to spot that it's ASCII encoded serial number and go "what a bunch of retards" about us
 
cos that would be my first reaction too
 
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@BartoszKP don't obsess over security too early
 
> PROFESSIONAL CHINESE ACUPUNCTURE AND MASSAGE
 
@thecoshman security?
 
@BartoszKP Wrong bart.
 
the-rapist.com
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1:13 PM
:DD
 
Security is an inherent part of design
 
@SamDeHaan what? sorry I don't follow :V
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Can't you just use the serial directly
 
@BartoszKP @thecoshman' message intended for @BartekBanachewicz, of course.
 
@SamDeHaan lol, I should get used to it by now
 
1:14 PM
@thecoshman imho player limitations are the kind of security that's p important in such a thing
if I were able to express them in type system, it would be great
In python function decorators are used for that IIRC
 
woops
accidentally staged my engines and lost 200dv with a really nice twr
I'm so used to FTL space as pause
 
there's a street in my town called "Haskell ave"
 
@BartoszKP don't worry, you're not the silly bart
 
@Crow cally?
 
The Forsaken Realm of Massachusetts
 
1:21 PM
@Crow revere, clinton, leominister or beverly?
 
ooo, someone has the power of google!
 
...
of course I'm googling it...
 
hmm
 
TIL that Clang already have a complete implementation of Modules for C++
 
rendevous planner and autopilot? I don't remember these modules..
 
1:23 PM
@BartekBanachewicz oh man, you don't know how much I wish I could make use of a type system... more than 'Object' :'(
 
ojbect
 
mit?
 
hi robot
 
Someone found a new animation bug some ten minutes before I fixed what was the last one.
I need to rewrite this crap.
 
1:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes silly you. you never fix all the bugs
 
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@thecoshman I mean, the last one in the animations.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes point still stands
 
@thecoshman In Erlang?
 
> a 40:60 read-write ratio
 
1:26 PM
@rightfold I don't believe in "l̀́̂ò́̂v̀́̂è́̂".
 
> 40:60
 
@Abyx they started for C. Didn't know about C++
 
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Erlang has a handful types and you cannot create custom ones.
 
I believe in love ... because I love food <3 <3 <4..04
 
1:27 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Java
but it's a work thing
 
@chmod711telkitty FALSE 3 is not < than 3
 
and so they obliterated any knowledge of what type of data you have, so you endless 'instanceof' checks
 
I would say something like "wow C++17 is going to be the shit"
 
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1:28 PM
Use a match expression.
 
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Oh wait.
 
but then again it will all delay all that anyway
 
> C++17 A few minor features so far, including for (elem : range)
 
i've been looking at rust lately
 
@rightfold stop teasing me with Scala!
 
1:29 PM
:,........(
 
@Jefffrey despicable ain't it
 
@ParkYoung-Bae what? you got rusty?
 
< is a half ass shift operator in some unknown language
 
@thecoshman I'm afraid I am too ;)
 
@Jefffrey :(
 
1:30 PM
@ParkYoung-Bae just trying to... iron out your knowledge
 
is having a mapping of roles an extensible model for authorization, or is it just a babby example?
 
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Q: Can anybody help me solve this Java problems on "Replace Methods"

user3860648I am totally a new man in Java. This problem should not be complicated cause I haven't studied loop or some other things. Write a program HollePrinter that switches the letters "e" and "o" in a string. Use the replace method repeatedly. Demonstrate that the string "Hello, World!" turns into "Hol...

 
@Jefffrey what
 
gud question
 
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@thecoshman :3
 
1:30 PM
@Puppy is (elem : range) equivalent to (auto && elem : range) ?
 
@ParkYoung-Bae didn't read, but downvoted
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, most probably
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, but with 57% more horrible.
 
@BartekBanachewicz More likely, for(auto elem : range).
 
instead of that shit I'd like range-based <algorithm> :F
 
1:31 PM
@Puppy No.
 
I remember the proposal. It went along the lines of "OMG I HAVE TO TYPE AUTO"
 
That would be even more horrible. Like 643%.
 
@Puppy that would be absurdly retarded
 
but either way, it's still with 57% more horrible, and that's saying something given that the original feature is range-based for.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's not horrible. I actually like it.
 
1:31 PM
mobile
 
@Abyx it's inconsistent and completely unnecessary
 
@Abyx That's what I said.
 
would be great if we could also write [](a) {} instead of [](auto&& a) {}
 
no, no it would not.
 
Would be great if we could get features.
 
1:32 PM
@Abyx dangling references ahoy
 
many many many years ago, I didn't know a person who rape others was called a rapist, I thought they were called rapers :x
 
srsly the for loop should be avoided
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes uhm what? like in std::feature::get()?
 
Oh, shut up Bartek
 
lol
 
1:33 PM
give me range accumulate and transform and I'll cut out 90% of for loops from pretty much any C++ code
 
@Abyx No, as in features, instead of bones.
 
@BartekBanachewicz also rotate
 
@BartekBanachewicz and lambda
 
hm... I don't get a boner from C++
 
I think that the new Iterable thing has a shot of finally making some range stuff happen
@Abyx Bones and boners are two different things.
 
1:34 PM
We need ranges to happen
 
> A relatively full-featured compile-time introspection proposal was favourably reviewed.
 
I think I cared a lot more about this before.
 
Anyway, Eric Niebler's been working on ranges.
 
home on the range
 
C++14 was really really disappointing.
 
1:34 PM
@chris like, reflection?
 
concur.
 
I like polymorphic lamdas
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it was
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah
 
that's why I'm not all that excited for C++17
 
1:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes "was"? it's not even released yet
 
especially, ha ha considering MSVS
 
it doesn't contain concepts so it's disappointing
 
@Abyx And yet it was already disappointing. Impressive, huh?
 
@Abyx It's so disappointing, it's future-disappointing.
 
@Jefffrey Nah.
 
1:35 PM
Microsoft Visual Studion 2037: introducing modules
 
@BartekBanachewicz I hope we all will use Clang in 2017
 
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@milleniumbug I like my lambdas like I like my dick: polymorphic.
 
C++14 is where you can add just one constexpr and turn your function into a compile-time one.
 
@Abyx meh
 
1:36 PM
Not because it has few features, or lacks feature whatever. I'm fine with giving them time. It was disappointing because of the stuff that was rejected and the stuff that was pushed forth.
 
question; does anyone get confused by how many ways there are to do the same thing? It's so hard deciding the best imo
 
At least modules seem to be on track.
 
oh God, I can't believe we nearly had dynarray.
 
@chris "on track" for C++92
 
I hadn't heard anything about modules for the past year
 
1:37 PM
@Crow That usually means that you don't know what you want.
 
@Crow nope it's OK, IMO
 
@ParkYoung-Bae It says plan to push for C++17, so maybe there's hope. Maybe.
 
way better than perl confusion
 
@Crow get away from me, pythonian
 
@chris I wouldn't count on that
 
1:38 PM
wuuut? python is good.
better than C++ at least
 
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@Crow Just import this.
 
except no static typing
 
@Abyx yes, doesn't say shit about the quality, though
 
I was kind of getting worried about VLAs.
 
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> There should be one—and preferably only one—obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
 
1:38 PM
Not knowing whether all of the people's code is valid or not unless they specify a language version.
 
VLAs are cancer.
 
@chris It already works that way.
 
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@Abyx C++' type system is not its best part either. :P
 
The best part of C++ is that I don't have to write it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I find VLAs the most common thing that people mistake for a language feature.
 
1:39 PM
star whore detected
 
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star whores
 
I never wrote any.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no :( not playing that game
 
1:44 PM
@thecoshman What game?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes listening to endless stuff on yt
 
@thecoshman It's just a song.
 
I'm pretty sure they're altering my feed so that I only see bad questions — OGHaza 6 hours ago
lol
 
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@BartoszKP dat rhyme
 
A nice one and somewhat relevant.
 
1:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes sure, just one song... then another, and another
 
JUST LISTEN TO IT YOU CUNT
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes NO YOU BASTARD!
 
damnit mechjeb
it plotted a perfect maneuver to Duna... right into Duna instead of orbit around Duna.
 
I see, so you postulate that status-declined is the most successful study on human anger ever conducted? You might just be on to something there ... — Tim Post ♦ 4 hours ago
lol x 2
 
yeah : D
and what about strange and violent chat visitors? :0
status-we-know-its-a-bug-but-we-wont-admit-it
3
 
1:51 PM
gee.
At least MS gives you WONTFIX
 
yeah, this is a wontfix boosted with some mad PR skillz
 
As annoying as WONTFIX is, at least it is honest.
 
true
 
well ... if you are really annoyed, you can always write a script to change all the status-bydesign to wontfix on your browser
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the heap usage thing?
 
1:54 PM
No, nothing on that yet.
But they're famous for WONTFIXing bugs.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'feature'
 
@thecoshman No, that's the difference.
"bydesign" means "it's not a bug, it's a feature". WONTFIX means "it's a bug, but we don't care enough to fix it".
Btw, Oded is a "Stack Exchange employee - developer on the Q&A team".
 
:V
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Congratulations on the promotion
 
1:58 PM
SE has expanded exponentially if you have not noticed
 
I had not noticed
 

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