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2:00 PM
does anyone actually use refactoring / dependency analysis tools in production?
 
user784668
@DeadMG Oh.
 
they're one of those things that seems like a really good idea in theory, but i've always been too lazy to try them
 
@DeadMG Kinda sticks in your memory after so much spam.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sounds like effective advertising
 
Change (string s1, string s2) into (char* s1, char* s2)Grijesh Chauhan 58 secs ago
 
user784668
2:08 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes "wh" ++ repeat 'a' ++ "t"
 
@willj Maybe if your goal was to advertise how much you hate your customers.
 
@DeadMG i can see how that would kill your curiosity.. but i'm wondering if the product might actually be useful
 
don't know don't care
 
user784668
@willj If you want to waste money, just burn it, m'kay?
 
and ignoring that particular product, if there are any free (and preferably good) alternatives
 
2:12 PM
@willj Dunno about C++, but those things were all over when I was working in C#.
They're awesomez, but C++ is fucked up so those tend to have limited awesomeness.
 
until we get ReSharper for C++. How much longer must we wait? ._.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so true. Doesn't libclang make more awesomeness possible?
 
Also, dafuq MS, when's Roslyn coming out?
 
Does an array passed by value that's a member also decay to a pointer?
 
2:19 PM
right, I had that suspicion
 
It's exactly how std::array is implemented to avoid that.
 
Yes...
FSVO "by value"
and FSVO "a member"
show an example
 
What's FSVO?
 
=For Some Value Of
 
struct foo { int arr[10]; }; void f(foo myfoo)
 
2:21 PM
@TonyTheLion error: program incomplete
OK, so you're not passing an array by value. You're passing a foo by value, and foo has an array member. Of course the array member doesn't decay to a pointer — that would be runtime type mutation to foo...
 
ohh mutation
 
It's important to remember that in int arr[10]; bar(arr); it's not the array that decays to anything. arr is always an array and this shall not magically change at runtime. Nay, the name of the argument inside bar's definition decays to that of a pointer type.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Would is_standard_layout suffice for the partial array?
 
> Spiders have 48 knees.
 
2:25 PM
@TonyTheLion Kneecapping's out, then. Aim for the eyes! Ooh-er...
 
I suppose if you have 8 legs and each leg has 6 knees.
 
@StackedCrooked Nah. You truly need full POD because of "copying" the dead elements.
 
ITT Tony can divide 48 by 8.
 
Yea, I can maths
 
2:26 PM
screw you :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Just use a bullet with the size of the spider. Shouldn't be too hard to find.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So... impersonal.
 
Hits all knees at once.
 
user784668
Common Lisp is so awesome. True is t, false is…
 
user784668
2:28 PM
nil
 
So I came in work this morning to realize that my UPS died during the night.
 
So much for uninterruptible.
 
Yeah.
IT gave me a new one right away, so that's good.
 
What? You have a UPS for each box in your office?
 
Roughly.
 
2:35 PM
Also whatever happened to @thecoshman's job application?
(curiosity)
@EtiennedeMartel modern shnizz
 
@TonyTheLion Plot twist: It was stored in the UPS.
 
raspberry pi on a UPS
 
@TonyTheLion It's now in the hands of someone else, which means I have no idea.
 
server architecture 101
 
2:35 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oh ok
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel You guys are so inefficient
 
@Xeo Our HRs are inefficient.
 
It took less than 5 days for the new place to make a decision
@EtiennedeMartel I'm glad I didn't apply then.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's "you guys". Where's your team spirit?
 
Xeo
2:37 PM
Woohoo, regex~
 
Xeo
Unrelated.
 
Still, what's so... exciting? about regex?
 
Xeo
Nothing, I just like it.
 
2:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fuck off. They're on the other side of the bridge, they might as well be in a different time zone.
 
Meh, I looked at a PHP question
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Need some bleach?
 
Hmm, found a delete in this code.
 
"Its over there, I'm not responsible"
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes :O
 
2:40 PM
nice attitude
@R.MartinhoFernandes delete it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Whose code?
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes rm
 
@DeadMG Work.
 
@TonyTheLion What am I supposed to do? Pee on them?
 
although on the other hand, I did just write my mock class to raw new up objects and pass them back as non-owning pointers, so they leak.
 
2:41 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Remind them.
 
Are any sites handmade anymore?
 
@TonyTheLion Unfortunately, the way things work here, I can't go directly to HR for that kind of thing.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What? It's a mock thing. I don't care if it leaks some memories.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Wait wut?
 
2:42 PM
@DeadMG I know. It's still funny.
 
I can see them for anything related to me, but for a job application, I have to go through my boss first.
And both my boss and his boss are currently on vacation.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hmmmm.
@EtiennedeMartel so logically, you can now go directly to HR.
 
You Uropeans....
 
@TonyTheLion Not gonna bother. I'm leaving in two weeks and I'm just scrolling through this piece of code to the part I care about; it's not something I have to change/debug/fix/whatever.
 
2:44 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Leaving? For where?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh woah you have two more weeks to go.
 
@EtiennedeMartel New job.
 
multiple jobs
 
Xeo
Plural?
aw
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Where?
 
2:45 PM
In Berlin.
 
Robot is going to actually become a taxi driver. :P
 
@TonyTheLion hahahaha. I still tell people that.
 
Xeo
haha
 
The other day this guy got completely befuddled when I went off in a programming-related tangent with a friend. He really thought I was a taxi driver.
 
Xeo
nice
 
2:47 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What, ahasmed of your job as a programmer?
 
Xeo
But you can still go off on a programming-tangent even if you are a taxi driver!
@EtiennedeMartel Precaution
 
@EtiennedeMartel To avoid the typical "Oh you're a programmer, therefore you must be able to fix my computer" response.
 
Xeo
Also, "ahasmed"?
 
@EtiennedeMartel "I will not fix your computer" and shit like that. Also, fuck that, everyone works in IT, it seems, so it gets boring.
 
2:48 PM
lol
 
Xeo
Did you learn arabic while I didn't look?
 
@Xeo Fuck this keyboard.
 
@Xeo That took me a second to figure out
@EtiennedeMartel Blame the keyboard.
 
Also, I'm currently listening some Céline Dion.
 
2:49 PM
There's this girl that always ruins it because she says she's an FBI agent.
 
SO YEAH. FUCK YOU ALL.
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Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes haha
 
@EtiennedeMartel And then you wonder why everyone hates Canadians.
 
@EtiennedeMartel From you, the white horse knight, that's unusual.
 
Dammit, zero extra syllables.
 
2:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Über fail.
 
Warning 1 warning C4800: 'int' : forcing value to bool 'true' or 'false' (performance warning)
That is bad performance?
 
Etienne isn't a horse, although with all his pony love, my mistaking him for a horse isn't that weird.
 
Xeo
@Pawnguy7 I hate that warning.
 
@Pawnguy7 Sounds like one of those silly warnings.
 
@TonyTheLion I'm a frowny faced guy.
 
2:52 PM
with long hair, IIRC
 
I just did static_cast<bool> (some_int_here). I guess I could use ternary. Is one preferable to the other?
 
"Oh Martin, I've got this laptop and.." "Reinstall OS and restore from backups. next?". You do lose the odd friend but the 'repair my computer' requests drop off rapidly.
 
Xeo
@Pawnguy7 Disabled warnings: 4800 is the most preferrable.
 
To be honest, I kind of prefer != 0.
 
Xeo
2:53 PM
Yeah. That warning is still silly.
 
Hm. That would be cleaner, yes.
 
J'IRAI OÙ TU IRAAAAAS
 
So good.
 
Xeo
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Q: How to define strong ID types in C++11?

ZhenHow to define strong ID types in C++11? It's posible to done alias of integer types but getting warnings from compiler when you mix types? E.g: using monsterID = int; using weaponID = int; auto dragon = monsterID{1}; auto sword = weaponID{1}; dragon = sword; // I want a compiler warning here!...

 
2:54 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Found that in a Kotaku comment thread, hmm hmm?
 
Xeo
And another one bites the dust, and another one ...
 
oi
I'm here, no love making to other loungers
 
Xeo
You're overly jealous.
 
smells like popcorn in this office.
 
@ScottW Internet Explorer taking over default extensions, and lighting stuff.
 
2:55 PM
@Xeo hahaha.
 
Scott is a nympho anyway.
 
Yes, those are completely unrelated.
 
@TonyTheLion Time to kill everyone and chew popcorn.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm thinking of raiding it
 
Ell
Hi guise
 
2:56 PM
Hi
 
Ell
I'm at the airport
 
hi
 
oh another one
 
@Ell Where you going to?
Poor sod.
 
Ell
Spain :D
 
2:56 PM
oh lucky you
 
> So don't we look pretty / with nowhere to go / It's cool to be lonely / didn't you know?
 
I'm going nowhere
Its fun too
 
@EtiennedeMartel Are you quoting Céline Dion songs here?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
(The title of the song is a reference to The Running Man)
 
The Novel, Dance, TV Series or Movie?
 
2:59 PM
The novel.
 
TEST_CASE("", "") {
    REQUIRE(true);
}
welp, testing done, time to move on to the next feature.
 
Well, all of them really, but the novel is the only good thing in that franchise, so there's that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes.
 
Should one try to satisfy compiler warnings?
 
Ell
Yah I got to go but see you guys in 2 weeks or so :)
 
3:03 PM
Céline Dion you say?
It was the godzilla
 
Xeo
@Pawnguy7 No, you should disable them.
 
@Xeo That one.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Yes.
 
> I always treated my books very carefully and never cracked the spines of paperbacks. -- johnjosephadams.com/blog/2013/08/20/…
I am not alone!
 
3:06 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually, I'm pretty sure you did.
 
@EtiennedeMartel What?
Englisch, bitte.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cracking a spine.
Wasn't there a book you had to destroy?
 
It's... not a paperback, right? RIGHT?
 
Pretty sure it is.
So, yeah, you can thank @thecoshman for ruining your winning streak.
 
Anyway, I did crack some spines accidentally before.
 
3:10 PM
Once I burned my marketing notes and made some awesome BBQed marinated chicken legs out of the fire
everything is made for a purpose, even the ones you hate
 
Oh oh, another brony.
 
Xeo
> I’m looking for $500 for the lot
Woah
 
what lot?
 
Hehe.. Ell is off to Spain. I'm guessing FR4468 to Malaga. I'll be watching for the delay/diversion.
 
Xeo
13 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
> I always treated my books very carefully and never cracked the spines of paperbacks. -- http://www.johnjosephadams.com/blog/2013/08/20/selling-off-my-sff-novel-collection/
 
3:22 PM
@Xeo Pity it's on the other side of the Atlantic :S
@MartinJames You're a sick bastard.
 
> and remember, you’d need to go pick them up in Perth Amboy, NJ
 
ah
 
3:36 PM
Why is it so difficult for devs to understand what strlen() does? There isn't a day when there isn't at least one 'terminating null' cockup on SO.
 
Depressing, isn't it?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah - it's taken over from 'FP compares do not work' :(
 
We're still dealing with the same bugs from the 70s.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The one I just read was C++ where, presumably, the string class is available :(
I've done my quota of shite for today : 'recv() data into auto buffer[4096], call strlen() to find length of data - FAIL!'.
 
3:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes LOL! In UK, I guess it would be 'celebrity' horseshit, instead of Christian drivel, replacing actual news.
 
@MartinJames I guess in the UK they get the Europe version, no?
Oh, you mean in general, not particularly Time.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sad.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, though it's not something I read often.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. Fuck celebrity news.
...including news of fucking celebrites.
..or pregnant celebrities..
 
@Xeo It would be kinda less... fucked up? if they had four different covers, but they truly market the drivel specially to Americans.
 
..or celebities with STD's.
 
3:50 PM
And I had the impression that Time was somewhat respected, at least this side of the pond.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not by me. Can't know about anybody else.
 
@DeadMG Its a rare occurrence where something has your respect.
 
that is true.
 
Though...
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Seems there's a bit of Texas sharpshooter in that article.
 
VS randomly stopped autocompleting everything.
 
3:56 PM
@Pawnguy7 UnintelliSense. Maybe it can no longer understand your code structure?
 
Good job breaking it hero
 
@CatPlusPlus Meh, calling someone a hero for breaking IntelliSense is pushing it. Someone in a coma could do it.
5
 
hahahahah
 
Sounds like it's in a coma itself.
Oh, in other vital news, just over 2 million viewers tuned in the Big Brother final on Channel 5 on Monday night, (and the mortuaries in Egypt are overflowing).
 
Most people don't like being constantly reminded that shit is impacting the fan.
They need to get their mind off all the crap.
 
4:07 PM
Well, they can't really do anything about the mortuaries overflowing. They can, however, enjoy the sort of entertainment that Egyptians are currently being denied (due to death)
There's a "make the most of it, since you can" moral in there somewhere
 
I don't know, being dead seems quite preferable to watching reality shows
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, they can. Cremation works wonders for that.
Disclaimer: I'm not a horrible person.
 
I can't cremate Egyptians from here.
That is, by "they" I was referring to the consumers of shitty celebrity gossip in the West
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, it appears that Europe, Middle East and Africa's edition seems to consistently have the best covers, and the US edition is singled out with the crap ones most often. (Why the fuck am I still browsing Time's covers?) (Also, why the fuck isn't there an edition for the rest of the Americas?)
 
(Though if a celebrity really were found to be "shitty" in public, that might actually be worthy of gossip)
 
4:11 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's what nukes are for! Same disclaimer applies.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I take this article with a pinch of salt. So few examples. I'm sure there are counter-examples where the US has the serious cover and other regions do not.
 
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Q: Program with OpenMp get slower and slower

user2287387I am quite new to OpenMp and I have a question. I have implemented a parallel for loop with OpenMp with 10 threads but as the program runs it becomes slower and slower (it starts with %CPU 900 and finishes with %CPU 100)... Inside del for loop there are athor loop that are NOT executed in paralle...

^^ lol. OP starts with no code. He gets flamed for posting no code. Now he dumps walls and walls of code on it.
 
hmm
 
ITT @R.MartinhoFernandes promoting the nuclear annihilation and BURNING of the Egyptian race
 
if ^ is missing, then implement ^ in terms of.. ^?
voops.
 
4:15 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's why I've been browsing the covers myself. I think that it exaggerates the point a bit, but it isn't totally bogus. FWIW, in my browsing I haven't found any such counter-example; every time I saw one of the other regions getting a bad cover, the US got the same.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok
 
Does VS not have brace completion? It is bugging me.
I mean, even Code Blocks did that.
 
2013 has brace completion
 
I hate brace completion
I am quite capable of writing my own fucking braces tyvm
 
I don't hate R#'s because it does it right: if you type the braces yourself, it just works.
 
4:19 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Why so?
 
Typing foo(bar) doesn't result in foo(bar)).
 
Chrome randomly closes everything. Lovely.
 
@Pawnguy7 windows auto restart randomly fucks me always.
be glad it was only your browser
 
Twitter apparently is very good at data security, too.
 
Read the next line
 
4:24 PM
Maybe all of those leaks are just NSA backdoors.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I often joke about nukes because they're too scary to take seriously.
I also nuke the hell out of everyone in Civilization if given the chance.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I just use the aggressive nations to do my bidding. Jesus montezuma, ghandi is all up on your border.
 
@Chemistpp In my games I am the aggressive nation.
 
inb4 'Cremateageddon' 1st-person burner.
 
haha, well I've never cived online. However, against cpu, winning via war gets boring.
what's online like? I just assumed no one ever finishes a game.
 
4:32 PM
I've played on LAN, but never online.
I almost always play a horrible scrupleless backstabber.
 
ah, ok.
 
Sometimes I can't be a backstabber (like, everyone knows about it so they don't ever trust me), so I am only a horrible scrupleless warmonger.
 
hahah using the comp strat anyway.
They'll be friends the whole game then go to war with your ass because you won't give them your last uranium.
China. Get those bowmen from the start. rape face and keep upgrading them.
China is the best war monger, IMO
 
@Chemistpp The only way to get reliable CPU "friends" is to crush them and be the one extorting the uranium.
@Chemistpp Civ4 or Civ5? (Haven't played 5 much yet)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I will have to try this one.
Oh, sorry, that's civ5
I played them both a ton. Civ4 was awesome, but I forgot who was good for war then.
well, early war.
the war that matters
 
4:35 PM
@Chemistpp Romans were awesome if you were willing to gamble for quick iron.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah yeah. And I think the russians kozacks were good early on too
 
WTF is this?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18340390/unstructured-tetrahedral-mesh-deformation-using-radial-basis-function
 
@MartinJames doesnt matter, its OT
 
@MartinJames Can you Google this for me :S
The search terms looks specific enough to get decent results easily.
 
@Borgleader I'll believe you - I wouldn't know.
 
4:38 PM
He's asking for code --> OT
 
@Borgleader OK, sounds reasonable. Close voted.
 
@Chemistpp From the few games I played, I got the impression that war in Civ5 is a lot more affordable than in Civ4. War in Civ4 had to be a carefully planned and carefully timed thing. Embroil yourself in a dozen turns long war and you probably won't end in profit, even if you win. I still have to tune strategies for Civ5, but it seems long drawn-out wars are not such a big issue.
 
Yes, I agree. War in 4 was an outright strategy fuck in most cases. I never beat... umm Warlord or higher in 4 because of it I am pretty sure. I have spent less time on 5 due to work/school/other games, but yeah, you could still win by other routes than just war.
even if you had to go to war
 
@Ell news:
FR4468:

Latitude: Unknown
Longitude: Unknown
Speed: Unknown
Altitude: Unknown

FR 4468 Positional Information
Sorry. We are unable to determine the current location of this flight.
It may be that the flight is temporarily beyond the range of our tracking network or over a large body of water.
 
Oh boy, you truly are stalking him.
(Probably over the Bay of Biscay)
 
4:50 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Better than under the Bay of Biscay.
 
Hmm, why is it called Bay of Biscay, when it is clearly a gulf?
English are stupid.
All other languages I know get that right.
 
I dunno - some way-historical thingy.
 
Hmm, it appears "bay" can be used for all sizes. Meh.
(Can you tell I'm bored?)
 
You're not still stuck in an airport are you?
 
Thank Finagle I'm not.
 
4:58 PM
@DeadMG So the PDB specification is locked down pretty tight.
I'd need to actually hardcore break contract and like, steal the papers themselves.
The files are under a million layers of encryption.
Debugging is srs bidnes. :c
 

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