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user1182183
10:00 PM
my old laptop.. broken plug for charging, broken screen (or.. no screen at all if I may say so), broken sound output jack, yet, still works. Trol.
 
But the last time I checked, I had one power socket in my laptop.
 
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aand.... it's 30 seconds over midnight
 
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@Griwes I had two power last time I checked, but I think I have five now.
 
@GamErix holy crap my computer's clock was 3 minutes late!
 
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@melak47 y u no auto update clock?
 
10:02 PM
it should
 
Argh, fucking linux mint testers.
They cannot into testing anything :F
 
And I have no idea whether wait few more days for a goddamned RC, or just go with previous version and risk a need to reinstall everything later. :F
 
user1182183
@Griwes wait few more days lol, we are lazy
 
@GamErix You have no idea what being trapped on Windows means.
 
10:03 PM
@Griwes play some games :D
I hear minesweeper is awesome
 
@Griwes It means "Trapped on a superior operating system".
 
user1182183
@Griwes I don't, explain? :)
 
Xeo
@DeadMG No Puppy, you just plain suck.
 
@melak47 I did, I am fed up with playing games.
 
user1182183
haters gonna hate but I use windows for gaming and internet browsing purposes and it does the job.
 
10:04 PM
@Griwes so make one!
 
@DeadMG Until I have finished mine, there is no real superior operating system in the world, they all suck (plot twist: mine will suck as well).
 
Hm.
I can
't find the Lundi github page. =[
 
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@Griwes for my parents the only OS will suffice is an internet browser with WiFi support
 
@melak47 I want to be devving my physical memory manager, but I do not want to waste time setting an environment for bare metal devving.
Wait.
 
10:06 PM
Didn't I just complain I don't have anything to do?
 
Found it.
 
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@DeadMG looks nice
 
@GamErix You do know when an OS is complete, don't you?
 
@Xeo Qualifying!
 
user1182183
10:07 PM
@Griwes yeah, when you can watch HD porn.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton I thought about it, but the two forward_index seemed shorter.
 
user1182183
or in my case, HD Gaming.
 
@GamErix No.
 
Ye just pointing out it's the essential, 'refactored' operation.
 
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@Griwes JK, but a OS is never complete, users always want something new.
 
10:07 PM
When you can use it to download HD porn and watch it with sound.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Sure sure.
 
@Griwes I don't know yet. Is the trip to Wroclam worth it?
 
user1182183
I'm wondering.. is Chrome OS just a webbrowser with WiFi support etc.. if yes I might consider installing it on my old laptop
 
@Rakkun, obviously.
 
Lundi's design looks nice, but I don't want to have to use Boost.Fusion and other stuff to make it work... =[
 
Xeo
10:09 PM
Btw, for zip above having random-access is pretty nice.
Since I only needed one counter for all vectors.
 
meh
 
Xeo
Obviously doesn't matter for lazy zip.
 
Tuple of iterators works okay-ish as well.
 
user1182183
Hm, is there a driver which will give me low level access to ALL DEVICES on Windows?
 
Xeo
@LucDanton 'cept you need equal-sized vectors then, no?
 
user1182183
10:10 PM
(sending/receiving commands)
 
@Griwes Hmmm. What would you recommend?
 
No. std::make_tuple(std::next(begin(r), m)...) is the end iterator where m is minimum distance.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton mm, right.
@duli In the spirit of the <algorithm> header, I've written an answer that operates on general ranges (as opposed to just vector). — Timothy Shields 4 mins ago
 
An obvious optimization is to compute the end without computing the distance, left as an exercise etc.
 
Xeo
Meh, who likes to match <algorithm>
 
10:12 PM
@DeadMG can you compile from VS?
 
no
basic syntax highlight is all you got
 
user1182183
I seriously still can't stop laughing at this" Xbox one down! Call an Ambulance! Wii U Wii U Wii U..."
 
it would be funny if the Wii U wasn't almost as bad
 
Xeo
@LucDanton std::any_of({ std::get<Is>(begins) == std::get<Is>(ends)... });? (or recursive version without initializer_list)
 
too late
 
user1182183
10:13 PM
am I invited? xD
 
my parents and brother are in bed
 
@Rakkun The Cathedral, the Market Square, Ostrów Tumski (well, the entire Old Town), countless drinking places. :D
 
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@ScottW yay xD
 
user1182183
lemme download mumbleeee lol
 
10:14 PM
@Xeo Ye, that works. It's messed up to use such an equality for a tuple though.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton You mean as an implementation for operator==(tuple, tuple)?
 
That's how I interpreted your query.
 
Xeo
Ah, no
External function
Such an op== would be nuts
 
Don't have much of a choice. Either pre-compute the end (which truncates overlong ranges), or do that. The latter is still correct though.
 
user1182183
I would be the best driver in the world if not the damn sunlight.... GOD ALWAYS AT THE TURNS.
 
user1182183
@Borgleader one word: gravity :P
 
user1182183
Who else here plays GRID 2?
 
user1182183
want to match against me biatcheees? :D
 
@GamErix more like: corruption
 
@GamErix Drop the quadruple question mark...
 
user1182183
10:18 PM
@Borgleader acceleration reminds me of gravity, not corruption, but okay
 
user1182183
@Griwes AIAI SIRE!
 
@Borgleader you have a minute to spare?
 
yes
 
Can you perhaps join me in my OpenGL room?
 
user1182183
10:20 PM
big explosion on Borgleader entering OpenGL room
 
user1182183
no GRID 2 fans here? ahw ;<
 
Thats a racing game isnt it?
 
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yep
 
Yeah... not into racing games
 
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not really much different from GRID 1 but it's nice to play
 
user1182183
10:23 PM
@Borgleader strategy maybe then? (Red Alert 3)
 
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or HAWX2
 
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and I can go on, I have tons of games.
 
Starcraft 2 <3
 
user1182183
yeah except it doesn't have CO-OP(campaign) so no reason to buy it.
 
2v2, 3v3, 4v4 (again ppl or ai)
 
user1182183
10:27 PM
I like games which offer CO-OP Campaigns, else I don't really see a reason to buy them, except if they super uber influenced me somehow to buy it because of <whatever features it has over other games>.
 
@GamErix Who plays RTS campaign anyway?
 
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@DeadMG me, my friends, zillions of other gamers?
 
I pity you
 
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Why..
 
because
 
user1182183
10:28 PM
My friends don't like being beaten up by me so I look for games which have CO-OP
 
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like Borderlands 2
 
whoah, whoah
 
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so I can save their asses the whole time.
 
there's a big difference between "Co-op" and "RTS campaign".
 
@GamErix You must be really fun at parties.
 
user1182183
10:28 PM
Nope, CO-op campaing = co-op campaing, it's a feature.
 
playing coop RTS campaign is like having a coop sewer exploration
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel meh
 
I mean, sure it's with your friends, but you're still wading through shit
 
user1182183
I play all games which offer Co-op because the amount of games offering co-op campaigns is VERY limited, so even RTS co-op campaigns will do.
 
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and I suck at hacking so no way I will ever make any CO-op mod for any game.
 
10:30 PM
eh
you can still get something like co-op Baldur's Gate
 
user1182183
I seriously need to find friends who like to compete
 
user1182183
just realized that.
 
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or they like to compete but they just know they always get beaten uip by me...
 
what, that Baldur's Gate is fucking awesome?
cause I already knew this
 
Greetings... long time no talk my friends!
 
10:31 PM
evening
 
Ell
Hello friend!
 
user1182183
hm never played baldurs gate
 
user1182183
but it's diablo 2 like?
 
@GamErix ???
 
Hi all!
 
10:32 PM
LOL no
Diablo 2 is an ARPG and Baldur's Gate is an RPG
 
Hello.
 
D2 co-op wasn't bad either
 
@JerryCoffin Hi :)
 
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@DeadMG ah then I'll try that one :P
 
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@DeadMG It was really fun
 
10:33 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: It's 11 and there is no more of anything. Hope you're not hungry. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
 
user1182183
Baldur's Gate 2 has CO-op too, like 1?
 
pretty sure
and Baldur's Gate 2 is also fucking awesome.
 
user1182183
10 bucks, well, I won't die if I spend 10 bucks, will try it.
 
@Etienne: I want on the record that I actually liked Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2.
 
@DeadMG Ok.
 
10:36 PM
so you can stop telling me that I hate everything.
5
 
user1182183
I seriously don't get why "game licenses" are changed from company to company and great titles are being wasted...
 
@GamErix Because intellectual property can be sold and bought.
 
@GamErix Apparently, whoever used to own the System Shock licence literally forgot they owned it.
 
user1182183
Homeworld 3 never will see the sunlight.
 
@DeadMG I know you don't hate everything.
That's the Cat.
 
10:37 PM
good.
also
what you think of
 
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@EtiennedeMartel you mean bought and wasted or peventing others from making bucks.. ~,~ yeah totally get that
 
awesome, huh
 
o.o
neat
 
@GamErix It's not that simple.
@DeadMG Urgh, caps menus.
 
lol
shoulda guessed you'd pick on that
 
10:39 PM
hey, make wide all caps!
 
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@EtiennedeMartel I just contacted interplay about Atomic Bomberman source code, they said they can't release it because some japanese company owns it which even doesn't reply to my mails.
 
what the hell is wrong with all of you guys "ermagherd menus in all caps" who the fuck cares >.>
 
also just for reference, I use the Dark theme, but the experimental instance seems to prefer the other theme
 
@Borgleader I do.
 
what about the ~blue~ theme
 
10:39 PM
@Borgleader BUT MY | MENUS ARE | YELLING | AT ME | T_T
 
@DeadMG Experimental instance uses a different set of settings.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Why? I hardly even notice that they're in all caps
 
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@ThePhD more like GO | HOME | YOU | ARE | DRUNK
 
I'm only reminded that they are because people complain about it
 
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they can't yell lol
 
10:40 PM
@Borgleader You're in the C++ room. OCD and pedants are the order of the day. :D
 
@EtiennedeMartel Huh. If you run it on the Dark theme, the colours are actually super strong and the comment/keyword colour is almost unreadable.
 
@Borgleader I do.
@DeadMG So....?
 
I didn't expect Dark vs Light themes to actually affect the colours of my custom colouring
just surprised, is all
or maybe they're identical and it's just the contrast.
 
Did you pick #FF0000, #00FF00 and #0000FF ?
 
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certainly contrast
 
user1182183
10:42 PM
just check the RGB values with paint
 
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or whatever you use
 
too lazy
 
@Borgleader Comment is #008800
 
@DeadMG Identical.
 
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(yes, paint DOES support viewing RGB colors of a selected pixel)
 
10:42 PM
Can't you just use the current IDE settings?
 
@GamErix I used Colorzilla instead
 
user142019
@DeadMG Neat. :3
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't think the current IDE has settings for Wide token colours.
but I might need to ask it if it's doing Dark vs Light
 
Cant you get your own settings? Im pretty sure you can do that with VS addons
 
probably can, but I'll let the users customize the colours later
 
Xeo
10:46 PM
I have a slight feeling you're focusing on the wrong things, but that's probably just me.
 
user1182183
Maybe help me? XD
 
@GamErix Play League of Legends.
 
@Xeo Well, once I've fixed the colours for Dark theme, I'll be moving on. Are you referring to IDE stuff in general, or this in particular?
 
Xeo
IDE stuff in general, I guess.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't understand Lundi's current README. It says it uses Boost.Fusion and other things, but I don't see them referenced in the repo. Am I missing something?
 
user1182183
10:51 PM
@EtiennedeMartel No WAY.
 
@GamErix Grab four friends, and play it.
 
user1182183
I don't play "only online" games.
 
You're gonna have loads of fun.
 
user1182183
ye my friends play it and talk all the time bout it
 
Xeo
@GamErix This chatroom is an "only online" game. See ya!
 
user1182183
10:52 PM
@Xeo then this chat room is an exception because it has awesome features and is totally FREE ;)
 
Xeo
Fuck it, can this wound please stop bleeding? I wanna go to sleep...
 
@GamErix LoL is also free.
@Xeo Bandages have been invented for a reason.
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel they have to make money out of something. I'm sure you can buy something.
 
user1182183
like coins or whatever credit system they have
 
user1182183
then do pay2win or something.
 
10:53 PM
@GamErix No.
 
You can, but you dont have to. Therefore its free
And its not Pay2Win
 
You can buy, but it's not pay to win.
 
Theyre the rare ones who did Freemium right
 
Xeo
@GamErix You'll be noticing the first debit on your bank account by next monday.
 
The only things you need money for is if you want to buy skins, but those are purely cosmetic.
 
Xeo
10:54 PM
And if you're extra-cheap or want non-standard skins, yay local skin changes
 
@Xeo But then you can't show off.
Anyway.
I'm leaving this place.
SEE Y'ALL
 
Xeo
o/
 
bye
I haz Foxfire Ahri, Gu'quin Sona and Pulsefire Ezreal :3
 
Xeo
Alright, off to sleep, g'night.
 
well you can sure as hell see that comment.
 
Xeo
10:57 PM
@DeadMG Btw, are there wide-only keywords? (function, I guess?)
 
yes
module also
 
Xeo
ah
 
but mostly, I removed keywords rather than add them
and type.
I remember now that I ran into this problem.
std::decay<T>::type -> std.decay(T).type -> lexer error.
 
Xeo
Not !(T)?
 
I changed that.
you only really need !(T) for the ambiguous stuff, and probably in the future for Wide metafunctions.
but something where the analyzer can trivially prove it's a class template from C++ or something like that
 
Xeo
10:59 PM
mhm
 
there's no need for it to be !()
 
Xeo
Consistency?
 
I mean, you could have done optional(T) { return somewhere.optional!(T); }
hmm
the blue and the red are fine in both light and dark, but the green needs toning down in Light
 
Xeo
Anyways, see ya.
 
for some reason, it looks very bright compared to the others
bb
 
11:03 PM
@DeadMG At least on my screen, it looks awfully bright on the black background too.
 
yeah, it does for me too
even though it should have the same intensity as the red.
I guess it's the mismatch in the human colour perception- we perceive green more readily than the others
 
user1182183
our eyes fail in so many ways,... take for example the black dots studd, blind spots and the example which shows a black-white castle, then for 10 seconds some yellow/blue image, then the castle again, and woah.. the castle is in colors (yet it's only back & white). I hate this about humans ; o
 
our eyes aren't fail at all, they do the job they evolved to do pretty damn well really
this is annoying because on my right screen, light green is too bright, but the dark is just right, whereas on my left screen, the light green is great, but the dark green is too dark
ah whatever
that'll do for now
goodnight everybody
 
Niight.
Okay. Really sick of installing new things on my machine./
I want to be developing shit already. =[
Goddamn intern grunt work.
 
11:20 PM
Hello, World!
Is that CG?
 
Looks like it.
 
@Code-Guru Butter looks too artificial.
 
@milleniumbug The bread looks freakin' real, though...that's what I was focusing on.
 
That's why the artist centered it. :)
 
Now that I look closer at the butter...yah, it looks fake
still it's pretty damn good
 
11:32 PM
@DeadMG no, the blind spot thing is pretty fail. our eyes are backwards. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_spot_(vision)
 
Our eyes don't fail because of a shitty small blind spot.
That absolutely no one notices due to our brain filling in the rest of the image
 
@Code-Guru the distance blur looks WAY off
 
@Rapptz no, but they could be significantly better
 
How so?
 
@Rapptz we could NOT have stuff between our eyes and the things we're looking at.
I bet we'd see better
 
11:35 PM
You underestimate the power of the brain.
 
We could also see more of the EM spectrum, and have a higher cone density, etc...
 
You can see your nose almost constantly but your brain selectively filters it out.
 
@Rapptz I imagine what the brain could do with more accurate input
 
So your problem is almost non-existent for the most part.
 
@Rapptz I think the fact that our eyes are backwards is pretty dumb. Other than that they work remarkably well.
 
11:36 PM
@GManNickG Yeah.
 
and no, I don't "need" to see better.
 
@MooingDuck You mean how the image is inverted but your brain fixes it?
I think that's cool for the most part.
 
@Rapptz No, see the link he showed above.
 
@Rapptz no I mean all the garbage inside of the eye that ought to be behind it, that interferes with vision and causes blind spots.
 
Oh he's still mentioning the blind spot.
 
11:38 PM
@MooingDuck By "backwards" you mean the optical nerves are on top of the retina?
 
@Rapptz the blind spot is merely where it all comes togeather, they cover the whole eye
@Code-Guru yes
@Code-Guru I also like "inside-out"
 
@MooingDuck That's probably a better word than "backwards"
 
HALP MY EYES ARE INSIDE OUT!
2
 
How people don't see obvious changes
to environment
 
11:39 PM
@milleniumbug change blindness?
 
That's right.
 
@milleniumbug yeah that's wierd too
 
user142019
Hmm neat.
 
user142019
clang's static analyzer apparently supports C++. Didn't know that.
 
11:48 PM
@milleniumbug I'm not an english speaker and I didn't quite got what was the experiment at first. For the first minute I didn't even noticed the exchange... from my point of view ...
 
@Crowz wow, that's some harsh stuff right there
 
@Code-Guru I like how at the end she says "it's not about the money"
 
@milleniumbug 1:13 The guy with dark hair changes to a guy with a shaved head...
 
@Code-Guru Watch further - there will be even more obvious changes.
 
@Crowz It's probably not (at least not entirely). It's difficult to imagine what she's been through supporting her ex while he was in prison.
 
11:52 PM
@ScottW hai <3
 
@Code-Guru she divorced him
@milleniumbug whoa, I'd stopped watching at the bald guy! O.o
 
@MooingDuck Quite surprising how blind our brains are sometimes :O
 

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