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there, it's gravatar changing time
 
fixed the pic just for you wonderful people
 
@user1217557 9/10 would help again
 
@user1217557 Heh, nothing gets by you
@user1217557 don't think it propagated outside of meta
 
i modified my username in SO, pic in meta, then tried relogging so maybe it just takes time to update in chat?
 
10:02 AM
I mean even on SO proper
no gravatar
you're right that, on top of that, it'll certainly be fucking ages until chat shows it
 
check again
 
@user1217557 what else is new
 
sorry, i changed the pic again, so my meta is different from SO. they say variety is the spice of life.
 
they do it's true
 
10:04 AM
so how about visual studio 2012's C++11 support, eh?
 
it's incomplete
 
Good talk.
 
well it's true
even the CTP is inadequate IIRC
 
No variadics
 
but I'm not a VS fiend
MS spent all their money breaking the GUI
 
10:06 AM
At least it has ranged based for loop over 2010
 
Xeo
Oh gawd, did he really pick Cicada?
 
don't see why it had to change at all, really
@Xeo It's only in your imagination!
 
only if you picked Xeo
 
Xeo
Just so you know, the name "Cicada" has a strange history in this room.
2
 
I like some of the changes in the UI. Like how you can browse declarations from the solution explorer and such, a few nice things
 
10:08 AM
@user1217557 At MS there is probably a version which is quite ok, but that one is not in the wild.
 
@user1217557 That wasn't possible in Visual Studio until 2012?!
 
I have adopted a legend's name?
Not that I know of? :P
 
@user1217557 A lying scumbag troll, more like
 
I didn't follow the Cicada story. Care to explain?
 
I would never troll.
 
10:09 AM
@StackedCrooked Ah. Multiline commands... (that is exeptionally hard to 'discover'). However, now I get: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/…
g++-4.8: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)
libbacktrace could not find executable to open
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See <http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
./cmd.sh: line 2: ./sehe-json: No such file or directory
 
ICE'd coliru? GG
 
@user1217557 I know
@kbok Cicada was Nolwenn, a French girl. Then he wasn't. Then he left. the end
 
Xeo
He didn't leave
 
Can't find him here. Explain that
 
Xeo
He's the other "userXXX" guy
 
10:11 AM
owat
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit this I knew
 
Xeo
With the yellow-greenish avatar
 
@kbok Didn't. g++ was probably killed. I thought the timeout had been raised to 20s
 
@kbok then what's your question really?
 
@StackedCrooked now with code fixed to read std::cin :) coliru.stacked-crooked.com/… (still failing)
 
10:12 AM
@Xeo can't see that in my user list
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I thought there was something more to explain the "lying scumbag troll" label
 
Xeo
Well, not here right now
 
owow Chrome shows tooltips immediately - thhxxx
@kbok Well, pretending you're one gender for years then being caught out as another, is that.
Also Cicada was always trolling
@Xeo Then he left!
 
@kbok the sender?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Maybe he has his reasons I dunno -- After all, I pretend to be knowledgeable when I'm in here
 
10:14 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit years?! 1 year, roughly. Probably less. Also "caught out" - hahaha
 
Also years is a bit of a strech
Anyway, nobody knows you're a dog, etc.
 
Hardly caught out. He's been saying it all the time. We just chose to take that as trolling. And he never made a secret of it. Be on Mumble more.
 
@sehe x years where x ~= 1
@kbok well don't tell them...!
@sehe wtf is this "mumble" I keep hearing about anyway
 
Ventrilo but less good
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's where people hang out but you're not invited
 
10:17 AM
? no need to act hostile...
 
just kidding
it's on the wiki -_-'
 
what is Ventrilo?
@kbok teehee
 
Teamspeak?
 
is that like Counter-strike?
 
No, it's a voice channel service
 
10:20 AM
Ok, let's go.
 
You don't game a lot do you
 
The Little Prince is 70 today.
 
I have better things to do than game. Such as trolling idiots on SO and getting my work done. And drinking.
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't call @JerryCoffin that!
 
Well gamers usually use teamspeak or mumble to speak to each other while gaming. Think IRC but with voice.
Aaaand lunch time
 
10:26 AM
I see
sounds horrible
why would I want to hear your voices?
andd... breakfast time
 
Xeo
test
 
testcomplte
too early in the morning to type, night guys
 
@sehe act? ;)
 
@jalf act :)
 
@user1217557 Night Cicada
 
10:31 AM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: _The Little Prince_ is 70 today [c++] [c++11] [no-helpdesk]
Urf. Markdown fail fixed. I have to do everything myself:
9 hours ago, by sehe
K gents. Be good.
And, change the room topic for me, while I'm gone :)
 
This has got to be the most baffling question I've seen on SO:
> Face Error C2249 raises from line "?"
 
and the LEWG spends an hour arguing about names and namespaces
 
@jalf I suppose he is facing that error from the marked line.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooh, yeah, that kind of makes sense
What happened to just showing the actual error message, instead of trying to paraphrase it? :/
 
Still crappy.
 
10:36 AM
> I seem to have stumbled into a presentation about allocators. More actual updates coming later today when I'm awake. #cxx #wg21 Tweeted by sdt_intel on April 17, 2013 at 8:27 AM
 
why people like thumbs answer down and not leave any comment
 
lol - let's see whether the puppy is awake / @DeadMg
 
@sehe repost ;)
 
Aha. I just found it ...
 
penguin was faster
 
10:37 AM
@dandybreath Because it's a bother.
 
but it's better to tell the writer what's wrong and correct it
 
Sometimes it's a waste of time.
 
@DeadMG Ah, you were awake. Good day
 
the LEWG had three papers to get through this morning but has barely gotten through one
 
but we are here to learn not blamed
 
10:40 AM
my own fault for not noticing the time earlier.
 
which one's LE again?
 
Library Evolution
 
@dandybreath True true. But the fact is, SO is inhabited by answerers and askers. The dominant answerers may not have patience to explain each and every time, so in fact they just ... moderate and hope someone else will come along and point out the obvious.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit LewG
 
10:41 AM
If it's not obvious I (a) don't downvote (b) always comment
 
@dandybreath Better for the writer, perhaps.
@dandybreath And sometimes, frankly, it's fucking obvious that a post is remarkably shitty and no effort has been applied. In such a case if, as the OP, you're incapable of recognising this, even when a slew of downvotes appears and encourages you to have a little think about the possibility, then you're really ignorant and/or stupid and I have no intention of further wasting my time on you or your question.
Thinking about it, I quite rarely downvote questions.
 
@dandybreath it's better for the writer if answerers act in such a way as makes them happy, because, in the end, answers make the askers happy too. Askers can easily learn how it's done from just observing other questions that have gotten relevant answers.
This is required effort, anyway (you always do search first, right?)
 
And, really, if the way in which your post sucks is that you didn't bother to look at the Related lists, or search first, then the only way I can tell you how to improve is to suggest you kindly fuck off
:)
 
yes, i always answer what i'm experienced.
and maybe its not work for other people
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Me too. I just comment, mark dupes/vote for closing. Only after a day or so will I start prodding with downvotes to prevent a bad question from lingering
 
10:44 AM
so, i wonder why people downvote and not leave any comment
 
@dandybreath I'm sure you are trying to say something. I presume a language barrier is making it too hard for me to follow
 
@sehe I find it bothersome to try to return to such questions, and if I do downvote I'll waste no time waiting to do so. But in such cases it will be fair and fairly obvious. Shame we don't have notifications for edits on things we vote on
@dandybreath Y'know, it's funny, it's almost like you just totally ignored all the responses we gave to that question when you asked it already a few minutes ago
 
i read it all
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't consciously do that. I just happen/stumble on them. I monitor a few tags more intensively and I do tend to spot the older ones again
 
@sehe Oh, interesting. Doesn't seem to happen to me for some reason (and you know how close an eye I keep on :P)
 
10:46 AM
@dandybreath Well, reading comprehension: "it's almost like you just totally ignored..." - no one said you didn't read it
 
Sometimes an answer is "just wrong" with no more explanation required.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Actually, I don't (since I don't focus there. Maybe once a week, I'll spend a net hour trawling new questions in general, but usually I just wait for Vim, Git, Spirit questions)
Back in the day. Refreshing the new questions tab was a day job! And moderating each and every one of them, including Java, PHP etc. :| - I must have been quite ill
 
For example, the following question needs no explanation for its downvotes if you have half a brain:
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Q: How do I read a line of data in C++?

Jesudas Murugayan13 5 3 2 1 I need to read the data and store them separately. Please advise what are the various ways to store inputs .

It's just an offensively lazy piece of shit
If you don't already get that, as the OP, then it cannot be explained to you in the space of a SO comment.
 
Re-asking a closed question is not helping, at all. — Bo Persson 18 hours ago
^ dat too
 
10:49 AM
lunch time
 
breakfast time
sort of
 
user1357851
Ahh ... the 65 yo princess ...
 
user1357851
 
user1357851
Someone need to make a game of rescuing old princesses
 
that is not a princess
that is Camilla
 
10:55 AM
well I should have been presenting this morning but it'll be after lunch instead
 
ITT puppy being lax in his duties.
 
Xeo
Wednesday already...
 
no, it was because polymorphic overran
 
Xeo
Any update on the EWG stuffs?
 
10:59 AM
it still sucks
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit but she's married to a prince, is she not?
 
@sehe Expired. I guess boost fusion and spirit is too much for coliru, at least with the 20 second limit.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Sell "Coliru Gold" :D
With 1min timeout
 
I guess :D
You can install coliru on your own vm actually. There's a linux installer.
 
@Telkitty yes
He is also known as The Duke of Rothesay in Scotland and as The Duke of Cornwall in Cornwall.
she is the duchess of cornwall
She is styled by her husband's secondary title of Duchess of Cornwall (or sometimes in Scotland, Duchess of Rothesay), due to the strong association of the primary title (Princess of Wales) with her husband's first wife, the late Diana, Princess of Wales.
simple reading
 
user1357851
11:09 AM
So when the queen goes to some higher place, who's going to be the king/queen?
 
user1357851
Also for those who has never seen this (it is weird, but good entertainment for 109 seconds)
 
user1357851
 
You wouldn't know good entertainment if it dropped a piano on you, would you?
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Yesterday, I met this guy youtube.com/watch?v=Ctdj4VIrGuk [NSFW]. No comments.
 
@StackedCrooked Duh. Spirit without fusion doesn't exist :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what
 
11:25 AM
I only learned of his YouTube... thing... after he left.
 
You have strange friends
 
He's not my friend.
 
I think I prefer having the piano dropped
Hopefully, it will still be usable :)
 
He just happened to be at the same venue.
I hope he doesn't show up next fortnight. It will be awkward.
 
Where was it anyway?
 
user142019
11:27 AM
 
user142019
 
user1357851
can we still be friends?
 
You want ranged-for.
 
11:36 AM
Maybe I do.
Is locker box free for commercial use? :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes To be platform agnostic, that would make sense. I was presuming a Windows-only environment. — Snixtor 6 mins ago
lol, "I was presuming the only environment where your suggestion makes sense"
 
polymorphic allocators headed for library TS.
 
user784668
@rubenvb could you share the patch mentioned in sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=30690535 ?
 
user784668
Of course, you have to, because GPL, but still.
 
@kbok hi
 
11:43 AM
uh hi
 
where u come from?
 
what do you want?
 
@kbok
 
I come from a place
it's over there somewhere
 
user784668
@DeadMG you come from the puppyland
 
user1357851
11:44 AM
@karthys kbok is this 21 year old blonde french girl
 
where infinitely many puppies are born, but all but one weren't paragons of perfection
 
On the internet everybody knows you're not a dog
 
@Telkitty k
 
user784668
@Telkitty she's 36 and she's German
 
user1357851
@Fanael we are not talking about @sehe
 
11:48 AM
@kbok Naw, I just have a special keyboard for paws.
 
user784668
@Telkitty @sehe is a bear, not a she
 
user1357851
@Fanael she bear?
 
user1357851
36 yo German she bear
 
user142019
It's 18º outside holy titfuck.
 
@StackedCrooked Why the const_cast?
 
11:58 AM
dat sun outside
Why am I even working :(
 

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