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3:00 PM
@thecoshman you know those, um, dunno how it's called' such devices which let high voltage through a gelatine with DNA in it then the DNA 'races' to the + side
 
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needs high voltage
 
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want to recreate oiot
 
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xd
 
@thecoshman Right you are. I just googled, I wasn't aware that the field wouldn't be induced into the secondary unless it was building and collapsing.
@EtiennedeMartel Of course, the Republicans are evil, while the Democrats are less evil.
 
@Chimera Yes. Pick your poison.
 
3:02 PM
@Chimera simple thing to remember, changing voltage induces magnetic flux, magnetic flux induces changing voltage
bada ding bada boom, transformers and motors explained
 
@Chimera Love is evol, spell it backwards, I'll show ya.
 
@GamErix ¬_¬ some sort of witch craft?
 
@Drise :-)
 
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[*] RIP unknown - today - burned xD
 
3:03 PM
@Chimera sounds a bit like electrolysis to me
 
@thecoshman I loved doing that in my house, but all the minerals would come out of solution on the anode and cathode.
 
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http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4418643114500.2171582.1541561539&type=3&l=9e74e09c68 :P
 
So it pretty much rendered them useless.
 
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last photo
 
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I took all the photos so there will be no copyright issues haha XD
 
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3:06 PM
apple can go f*ck themselves
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hahaha
 
@EtiennedeMartel ¬_¬ if you are going to be potential offensive, at least be funny whilst you're at it
 
@EtiennedeMartel Nice.
 
@thecoshman Well, you seem to be a minority here.
 
3:09 PM
you know
I realized that I have certainly set my standards higher
I used to help out other modders in Lua scripts a few years back, and man- many of them were dicks.
 
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@DeadMG which standarts
 
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'? :P
 
wall-of-code "PLIX HLEP ME" stuff.
 
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@DeadMG oh heh ye sure I also heate it when people can't formulate a correct help question nor can do anything themselves...
 
@DeadMG How's that resume coming?
 
3:10 PM
@DeadMG What, you mean they used to be lower than the stratosphere?
 
@Drise Much better. Wish to see?
 
Sure
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hey, I'm sure you'd object to wall-of-code "PLIX HELP ME".
 
@DeadMG Yep. Downvote, vote to close and flag, usually.
 
3:12 PM
@DeadMG Me too, me too!
 
@EtiennedeMartel Unfortunately the forums don't have downvotes... or vote to close... or flag
 
@DeadMG Needs formatting, share google doc ploz
 
@DeadMG Yeah, I guess the best thing to do is to just run the fuck away.
 
@Drise It's four paragraphs of pure text. How much formatting do you want?
@EtiennedeMartel I intended on that.
 
user1182183
any1 of you haz any experience with powerline adapters, eg under which circumstances they won't work? ; p
 
3:13 PM
When they're broken.
 
@DeadMG Resumes are supposed to be specifically formatted, just not "I did things give me job."
 
@CatPlusPlus gee gee
@Drise I've encountered no such rules.
the point of a resume is to answer the question "What have you done which is relevant to job?"
 
@DeadMG Hold up.
 
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@CatPlusPlus ah well then hopefully I won't throw away money by buying two of them to get ethernet at the attic xd
 
@Drise Anything specifically you'd like me to hold up? Or will this glass do?
 
3:16 PM
Depends on what's in the glass.
 
@CatPlusPlus A thousand live bees.
 
@thecoshman I don't know, probably not directly. But it was brought up because clearly someone felt that there was a problem with the current composition of room owners (ie. too few who are around in American timezones)
 
Resume is American for lazy CV.
 
@DeadMG is there some scotch in that glass?
 
3:17 PM
@DeadMG A thousand live bees likely need a lot of space if you plan to keep them that way for long.
 
@DeadMG big glass
@Drise send ALL the letter bombs! :P
 
@Drise Is that your CV?
 
@Drise where do you talk about you? why hire YOU
 
@thecoshman My "Computer skills" section followed by my work experience section.
 
@thecoshman That's usually why you put a cover letter with it.
 
3:19 PM
do not just bore them with 'things I did' tell them why that makes you awesome for the job, what does it bring to the table
 
@thecoshman cause he ain't that cute
 
@TonyTheLion Don't think Drise is a cute cuddly puppy.
 
Computer skills: yes.
 
@DeadMG oh I thought they were talking about you.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I guess it's his objectives section, I would just change it to be more of an opening
 
3:21 PM
@TonyTheLion We are, but that specific CV isn't mine, it's Drise's.
 
@TonyTheLion You think that mutt is cute and cuddly?
 
Does chatting count as community service?
 
my CV is "I did X at university, I did Y on SO, I've got Z C++ tutorials, and I also have some public source on bitbucket."
 
any hoops, see y'all
 
Your name is "Richard Arthur Moll III"?
 
3:22 PM
@LuchianGrigore Yes...
I'm much more attached to Drise though, so please continue calling me as such.
 
where does your nick originate from?
 
@Drise So when you pronounce your name... do you say "the third"?
 
@DeadMG Just sayin, I got a job with this resume. So it obviously works.
@LuchianGrigore If I'm being asked in court or something.
 
my resume, when is started was I write code, hire me!
 
That's gotta be the classiest name I know
 
3:24 PM
@LuchianGrigore But yes. If I'm being extremely formal.
 
If I were you, I'd go for a PhD, just so I can say Doctor before the name :D
And speak in a british accent
 
or go for Professor
 
smoking a pipe
 
with a monocle
and top-hat
and a pocket-watch
 
3:25 PM
@TonyTheLion My freshman year of highschool, I was playing Gaia with a few friends, and I didn't have a nick, and I have 0 creativity, so one of them said "Why not Drise?" And I was like "That sounds fantastic." and I've used it ever since.
 
@DeadMG that's better than a lot of people's CV's
 
@LuchianGrigore I'd love to be Doctor.
 
My boss got one resume that the guy said he wanted to be a DJ and put his "nick" as his middle name. Something like Mike "DJ Thrash" Paulson or something
 
but I'd have to go back to formal education for that
 
3:27 PM
@Drise Why not Zoidberg?
 
@DeadMG so would I. Just so I can call myself that.
If someone's choking in a restaurant, and they ask "Is there a doctor in the house?", I'd stand up, and announce myself. After everyone starts yelling at me that I'm not helping, I'll clear the confusion, and tell them I'm a doctor in CompSci...
 
Lol
 
@LuchianGrigore Totally not worth it.
 
@LuchianGrigore you're evil
 
@LuchianGrigore Then they'd shoot you and you would need a doctor.
 
3:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus internet forms have "Mr, Ms, Mrs and Dr"... there has to be something to it...
 
Internet forms are also created by idiots, mainly.
 
@LuchianGrigore But no "R." :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, because I am the doctor.
Oh wait....
 
doctor who
 
Titles are useless.
 
3:30 PM
Brace for it
Newbie incoming
 
brase for the end of spelling
 
Graze for the taste of grass.
 
@CatPlusPlus Nom!
 
Hello everyone !
 
Hey, you're a magnet.
 
3:33 PM
@Rocketmagnet Sorry, could not find user "everyone"
 
I wonder if I could make an entire crapp with just one activity.
 
heh
@everyone Hello
 
I need to write more C++ tutorials
being only 15000 words is suck
need to reach 80,000
 
Don't people know how to write C++ by now ?
 
I need to fix actual bugs and not imagined ones
 
3:34 PM
@DeadMG Puppy != Robot, unless I've been fooled.
 
@Rocketmagnet Based on questions on SO, no!
 
I need to go home.
 
@Rocketmagnet surprisingly, a lot of people don't know how to write C++.
 
Make that 95%.
 
How unexpected.
 
3:35 PM
 
@DeadMG But in all honesty, shorten up your statements so they are direct and to the point.
> Sorry, could not find user "everyone"
@DeadMG Then why are you acting like Robot?
 
I'm not acting like robot
only robot acts like robot
 
he's posting memes
 
I don't know how to act like robot
 
@Drise Never seen a robot puppy?
 
3:35 PM
totally natural activity on the internest
 
Did someone say 'Robot' ?
 
@DeadMG you just need to say "EXTERMINATE!"" repeatedly
 
not posting any TVTropes links
 
3:36 PM
We need to invent us a robot puppy
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
 
@jalf "Affirmative", silly.
 
@jalf Rightyo. EXTERMINATE!
 
@DeadMG been a while he done that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sounds more evil than a robot robot.
 
3:36 PM
a meta-robot
 
@Rocketmagnet You build robots. R. Martinho Fernandes is one.
 
@TonyTheLion Really? I hadn't noticed. EXTERMINATE!
 
I know, let's make a Robotics Stackexchange !
 
Non-robot robot non-robot.
 
@Drise I posted one less than 24 minutes ago.
 
3:37 PM
122
Robotics

Proposed Q&A site for professional robotic engineers, hobbyists, researchers and students.

Currently in commitment.

 
I missed that
 
@JerryCoffin (my name ends with "s", I'm not hispanic)
 
@Rocketmagnet I don't think you get the meme
 
@DeadMG DELETE!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, and?
 
3:38 PM
Martino Fernando would have been cooler due to rhyme. It would sound like the name of a TV show host.
 
Damn, missed last week's DW episode. I guess I'll have to start my torrents.
 
@Rocketmagnet There seem to be two more:
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Robotics research

Proposed Q&A site for researchers, graduate students and people involved in research in robotics and related areas. This Q&A site is to bring together the active community of robotics researchers and graduate students all over the world to benefit from each other.

Currently in commitment.

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Theoretical and Applied Robotics

Proposed Q&A site for robotics researchers, hobbyists, enthusiasts, and beginners. This site is a 'unified robotics proposal'.

Currently in commitment.

 
Research Shmesearch.
Schmeretical and Shmapplied
 
wtf, three robotics sites?
 
I'm not sure I like this guy. He's trying too hard to be funny.
 
3:40 PM
Those other two are floundering
We need to get one all the way to the end.
 
"We" don't really "need" to do anything of the sort- I'm perfectly happy to watch them all flounder
 
We'll never make a robot unicorn at this rate.
 
@Rocketmagnet I'm not sure I like this guy. He's trying too hard to be funny.
 
@Drise - Is that a joke?
 
@Rocketmagnet No. It means you're killing everything.
 
3:42 PM
@Drise Yeah, let's get the tar and feathers.
 
@Rocketmagnet The real question is whether anybody else here is part of the "we" that cares about any of the three proposals, or robotics in general. My immediate guess is that there's a reasonable chance (we're a pretty diverse bunch), but not much more than that.
 
Drise is just trying to beat sbi at grumpiness.
 
@JerryCoffin In fact, I'm feeling a "linkdumper" vibe going on here.
 
Little Drise..
 
@JerryCoffin - There's no need to be agressive. I was only mentioning it in case anyone was. If you're not. That's ok.
Try to be friendly though.
 
3:44 PM
I don't think @JerryCoffin was being aggressive. He was merely pointing something out
 
@EtiennedeMartel Lol, that would actually make it funny!
 
Now where did I put that fish..?
 
Xeo
So, what came out of the owner discussion?
 
@Rocketmagnet it's called Room Newbie Initiation
 
@TonyTheLion Oooo is that like RAII?
 
3:45 PM
@Xeo Nothing yet.
 
@Rocketmagnet If that qualifies as aggressive, then hard though I may try, it seems unlikely that I'm capable of being (what you'd think of as) friendly. I certainly wasn't trying to do any sort of initiation, or anything even close.
 
@TonyTheLion - Exciting. I wish I was in your gang.
 
@Rocketmagnet You must be new here. Oh wait, your are.
 
@Rocketmagnet you're the newbie here, so you're undergoing this. :P
 
> A man has been jailed for three-and-a-half years for killing a chef in a row over cheesy chips at a Blackpool takeaway.
wtf, he only got 3.5 years? I'd have given him 35 years.
 
3:47 PM
indeed
 
It could have been a brawl that resulted in an unintentional kill.
 
@DeadMG If you'd tasted those cheesy chips, you might have let him off with a warning. :-)
 
Kill all the chefs over cheese rows in Blackpool restaurants
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah.
I actually read the whole article and it's not that unreasonable at all.
 
@DeadMG The judge like cheesy chips.
 
3:48 PM
it states that the guy punched the victim once, which killed him.
 
Yeah, I've punched him before.
 
@DeadMG Pussy
 
must have been an epic punch
 
I mean, not that punching someone in the head is a nice thing to do, but it's a pretty far cry from murder.
 
3:48 PM
@DeadMG lowut.
 
Didn't manage to kill him though.
 
That must have a been one hell of a punch.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lolwut FTFY
 
Was he wearing explosive gloves?
 
3:49 PM
He probably got punched by Iron Man.
 
@TonyTheLion Iron Man doesn't punch. He shoots light stuff out of his hands and chest.
 
My friend thought that an onion was the only food that could make you cry, so I threw a watermelon at his face.
3
 
Hahaha
 
Smooth.
 
3:54 PM
@Xeo This sounds as neat trick, but it didn't work, same message - "Display name may only be changed once every 30 days"
 
What
Who
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: We can change the topic to funny things. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
so hopefully tonight I will actually get my food delivered, after yesterday's cockup
 
@Drise: You talking to me?
 
Xeo
@Blank That worked once upon a time at least. :P
 
3:56 PM
@Blank I... think so..
 
@Drise Follow the pointers ;)
 
@Blank I did..
 
@TonyTheLion We're definitely hoping you get some food soon. Rumor has it that hanging around with a hungry lion is a risky business.
 
@Xeo: First my name needed to match the avatar, now my avatar needs to match the name. :) /cc @Drise
 
@JerryCoffin yes! I hope so too.
 
3:58 PM
@Blank /cc @Drise is the apparent standard.
 
Okay now?
 
@Blank Just passing on things I've learned from these kiddies.
 
Nice standard BTW
 
@TonyTheLion Lionesses getting lazy?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes :/
I have a glass table at home, and I almost broke it yesterday
 
4:01 PM
Is it bad that I habitually type for (unsigned int i = 0;... and practically just have my muscle memory take over to type it out?
@TonyTheLion I told you, leaping onto glass tables and sleeping on them is a bad idea.
Bad kitty.
 
@Drise Yes. It means the language sucks.
 
@Drise Yes, it is -- if you're using loops that much, you're doing something wrong. When you do use a loop, it should be for (unsigned i=0;.... You need to be lazier.
 
@JerryCoffin I iterate over a lot of containers. GUI programming.
 
@Drise That's not a problem -- but use an algorithm.
 
Xeo
@Drise Yeah, you're doing it wrong - for(auto& elem : cont)
 
4:04 PM
I think too many explicit loops are a bad sign.
 
78 matches found for "for (unsigned int i"
 
It shows you're not working at an high enough abstraction level.
 
Also, the program does a lot of things.
 
If your program has a main() function, you might want to reconsider your design.
 
@Drise All the more reason to use abstraction to keep the complexity under control.
 
4:06 PM
@Chimera :D
 
@Drise :-)
 
@JerryCoffin But if I need to get all the points out of a vector, how else do you do that?
 
Say you want to "frob all the wargles". You write for(unsigned i = 0; ...; ++i). Wait, where did I mention integers and increments and all that?
for_each(wargles.begin(), wargles.end(), frob); // frob all the wargles
2
 
by the way
what about a game/book/film set in a post-zombie-apocalypse, where a harsh winter killed off all the zombies in northern hemisphere?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're just begging for it.
 
4:08 PM
@Drise What are you doing with the points once you get them out?
 
@JerryCoffin Stick them into another container.
 
@DeadMG What makes a post-zombie-apocalypse different from a post-any-other-apocalypse?
 
  for (unsigned int iPoint = 0; iPoint < NFPoints.size(); iPoint++)
  {
    Points nfPoint = NFPoints.at(iPoint);

    points->InsertNextPoint(nfPoint.x, nfPoint.y, nfPoint.z);
  }
@JerryCoffin And some other math things. Depends.
 
@Drise That sounds like std::copy.
@Drise That sounds like std::transform or std::accumulate, for a couple of possibilities.
 
@JerryCoffin Not really, when points is vtkSmartPointer<vtkPoints> points = vtkSmartPointer<vtkPoints>::New();
 
4:12 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I had plenty in my last project
 
@Drise You may need some custom iterators to work with your strange (VTK+?) containers, but not much more/else than that.
 
@JerryCoffin Too much effort.
Plus then I'd have to explain why I made the program much more confusing and abstract.
 
@Drise It'll be extra effort the first time, for sure. It doesn't take long for it to be a net savings though.
 
IMO, loops are more confusing, especially for the reader. They distract from the actual meaning of the code.
 
When I introduced @MooingDuck's stream overloads, my boss nearly flipped because "his C version didn't require all these template overloads and crap."
 
4:15 PM
This is awesome:
Nutjob attempts to extort a $35 computer from a non-profit: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1901
 
@Drise Oh dear, you've got one of those bosses.
 
@Drise Why do you think it would be more confusing? Do you find it less confusing to write out all the code to sort data every time you need to, or to use std::sort? Why would using std::copy to copy data be any more confusing?
 
Sort? Oh yeah, sleep sort is what I use.
 
@JerryCoffin You're arguing against your point now
 
@Neil He tries. But he's a Math PhD, not a programmer. He just so happens to know how to take math equations and put them into C++
 
4:16 PM
You wanted him to write his own custom iterator. Isn't that a bit like writing your own sort?
 
@Drise Who is a math PhD?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because if you had like, a post nuclear apocalypse, that radiation ain't gonna just die in the winter
 
@Chimera My boss.
 
@Drise RIP, Drise. You have my sympathies
 
@Neil He said "write out all the code to sort data every time you need to", not "implement it once and then use it everywhere".
 
4:17 PM
whereas in a post-zombie-apocalypse then the fundamental cause of said apocalypse is dead and gone
 
@Neil How do you figure that? Do you believe it's clearer to write another couple of loops to sort data every time you want to sort, or to call std::sort to do the job?
 
@JerryCoffin Not sure how this turned into "Why do you think writing your own sort is better?"
 
@Neil You said I was arguing against my own point, and that was the demonstration I gave of my point.
 
Ok, my short attention span has indicated to me that this conversation is now boring. New topic: Where can I find some women?
I've been considerably lonely as of late.
 
As far as writing your own iterators goes, it's pretty simple: because the minute you've written iterators (which really is pretty simple) you can treat your containers like real containers, so you can use all the standard algorithms with them.
 
4:19 PM
@JerryCoffin To write a custom iterator is a demonstration of your point not to write a sort method everytime it is required?
You mean to say otherwise he's having to reinvent the wheel cycling a list everytime he needs to access it?
 
@Neil Not just reinvent the wheel, but apparently implement it with only a small number of straight lines as well.
 
@JerryCoffin Then I see what you mean, I didn't really get the connection at first, sorry
 
@DeadMG What about public health?
 
rephrase plix
 
(FWIW, I asked not because I thought there was no difference, but because I was curious and interested in the idea)
@DeadMG You now have a zillion of dead bodies lying around.
 
4:22 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Weren't they dead in the first place?
So what's the difference between a bunch of dead bodies lying around or walking around?
 
@Drise Doesn't matter. You don't want dead bodies around. They're a ripe ground for all kinds of nasty health problems.
@Drise The walking ones try to eat you.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Details.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Obviously they borrowed a bin truck between then and the beginning.
 
Should I take that seriously or as a joke?
 
well, obviously you'd need lots of bin trucks
but the survivors would only need small areas.. so they can just leave the rest to be scavenged
besides, it's the winter, they're all frozen, not actively rotting, so you could take some time abou tit
 
4:28 PM
@Drise Church is a good place... if your into that sort of thing. Or the laundrymat.
 
wooo 320
 
hola folks!
 
@DeadMG Ok, then what problems does being a zombie apocalypse pose?
 
nothing particularly specific, I'd say
the main advantage is the effectively spontaneous resolution of the cause
apart from that it's pretty much regular apocalypse fair
 
Ah. K.
Sounds boring then.
 
4:38 PM
depends on what mechanics exist between you and the other survivors, no?
 
ya know came across a weird issue. never knew that in vs2008 even if you update it to sp1 it always still uses the default crt. so even though i share my static lib built with mfc with shared dll option and /md if they are not using the correctly version for the crt then it wont work.
 
@DeadMG But your pitch didn't mention a thing about that. Only the backdrop, which turned out to be just a regular apocalypse.
 
it wasn't a pitch, more of a setting
the real fun begins when the survivors are forming gangs and turning on each other for resources and such things
 
Yep, regular apocalypse stuff. That's why I said it was boring.
 
you would think that if you told someone to update their vs2008 to sp1 it should automatically use the most updated crt version but that is not so. GG
 
4:41 PM
that's all Jericho did and nobody accused that of being boring
 
@Chimera Really? People hook up in churches?
 
@DeadMG Because it's a story I've seen many times before. Gimme interesting characters and I might like it.
 
@DeadMG All I see is DayZ bandits.
 
@Drise More organized. Think more like, town on town or area against area.
nah
my previous idea of horror sci-fi was better
 
I don't remember.
 
4:48 PM
@Drise O sure.
 
@Drise Evangelicals pretty much have no other choice.
 

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