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2:00 PM
ouch ... bad call imo
 
why?
I was never involved in it
 
for this kind of thing lucene is much faster
 
> SQL is inherently slow by design
this part I don't understand
 
@KendallFrey for this type of thing yes
 
it's designed to be fast, surely
 
2:01 PM
@KendallFrey It depends what you compare it to
 
I am a mean guy
:D
 
think about the problem domain, full text searching is arguably the slowest thing about SQL
 
user47589
SQL isn't slow by design. that's ridiculous
 
Sorry!!!!
 
its really good at matching values in an index
 
user47589
2:02 PM
saying it like that sounds like people intentionally designed a system to be slow.
 
@Amy wadry said 'by design at this type of problem'
You can't just miss out the context lol
 
but full text search like this and matching things within a set of values is a much more complex task
 
SQL is bad at some stuff
 
user47589
@Sippy that's not much better.
 
30 minutes, then I call F R I D A Y
 
2:02 PM
@Amy the context should also include "compared to things like lucene designed for exactly this problem"
 
@wadry That's why they have a specialized service for full text
 
user47589
@wadry i still find the phrasing "slow by design" to be objectionable.
 
What is "this type of problem" exactly?
 
user47589
its design is slow for certain things, but it isn't slow by design
 
@KendallFrey maybe SQL has moved on, I was under the understanding that one of the main benefits of using something like lucene or raven was for this kind of problem it was faster
 
2:03 PM
"Hey guys. Lets write a system. The main focus is that it has to be sloooooow"
 
I couldn't say about the latest stuff in SQL world
 
@wadry faster than LIKE, or faster than SQL full text search?
@JakobMillah that has been done before
 
@JakobMillah that's not what I said, my comment has been taken out of context by @Amy here based on a badly worded response
 
In fact, slow is vital for some things
 
@wadry Ye I read the entire context :) I am just on troll mode
 
user47589
2:05 PM
@wadry the context is "SQL is inherently slow by design at this type of problem" that is not true. its design is slow at whatever problem you're facing, but it isn't slow on purpose, which your phrasing suggests.
 
@wadry I thought you were changing your name to Darth Waydr anyway
 
@Amy by "by design" I meant simply that SQL's design focus was not this and thus is not as fast as lucene
jeez
 
user47589
my car is slow by design.
 
Your ponies
 
user47589
2:07 PM
Honda engineers intentionally made it slower than a Ferrari.
 
fuck it ... don't take my word for it ask google ...
!!google sql server vs lucene.net
 
@Amy That's technically not untrue.
 
@wadry again, are you referring to SQL in general, or SQL full text search?
 
user47589
It was a requirement passed down to them by management
 
2:08 PM
The design was focused on other things, it's still by design that speed was not important.
 
user47589
Management was like "we want Amy's car to be slow, that's your priority"
 
My Honda is faster than a Ferrari
 
@KendallFrey specifically here full text search and how the query engine behaves when using "%like%" on a text column
 
in the Ferrari's frame of reference
 
user47589
hehe @KendallFrey
 
2:09 PM
 
@wadry Well, which one? They're different.
 
@Feeds That is me every day.
 
@Feeds slow
 
@KendallFrey SQL is "by design" slower than "the design in lucenes engine" at handling this scenario
so both
 
user47589
I thought I was the only one pretending to be an adult human.
 
2:10 PM
Nah I have legally been an adult for 5 years now and I still don't understand how to adult.
 
we are all just faking it, you guys
dont worry about it
 
user47589
@Sippy just one hoof before the other each day
 
Yup.
 
carry on guys ... im done, I would try and explain this but I can't be arsed
 
@wadry What part of SQL does "SQL" refer to?
 
2:12 PM
@KendallFrey MSSQL Server full text indexing
AND
@KendallFrey MSSQL LIKE "%stuff%" queries
 
@wadry do some adulting
It will make you feel better
 
yeh im gonna go back to doing real work i think
 
Also that. Dunno why you weren't RO yet cos you lurkin here 24/7
 
@wadry You're saying they're both slower than Lucene?
 
2:14 PM
@Sippy no idea been here since the dawn of time ...
 
well I done did it now.
Be responsible etc
 
I thought it was rep thing
thx though :)
 
user47589
no, its a special honor
 
Always use protection when dealing with trolls
 
I feel honoured to achieve this high point in my coctothorpe chat legend
 
2:15 PM
lol
 
user47589
lol
 
@Sippy I feel like I should put a condom on each finger in response to that
not sure how the office might respond to that though
still at least I would be writing "safe code"
 
@KendallFrey poor you ... did your mom not let you leave the house without them?
 
Well, I've just had a 30 minute ban for cursing. It was an "automatic ban". You'd suspect I would have been banned more often over the long years I've been raging on this chat if that was really automatic.
 
2:18 PM
damn
 
"automatic" huh ... AKA, some admin likes to troll you for being a dick
 
some people need to grow a pair
 
yeh that'll stop em
 
user47589
huh
 
lol
 
2:19 PM
What's worse is that was one of the comments towards gaming. Not the shit rage of 'f you all' I did this morning. So interesting "automatic" systems.
 
Why is every random Skype request from girls
 
@KendallFrey that's how the spammers get you "Hi i'm candy from california"
 
@KendallFrey hot girls in your area?
 
yeh I bet you are luv, not really "Dave" from india, honest
 
user47589
hot thai girls
 
2:19 PM
Nah that's 9gag
 
@Sippy In my local supercluster, yeah
 
hot thai curry
 
@KendallFrey KSP isn't real Kendall
 
Or perhaps there is a limit to the amount of f words you can throw around in a day?
 
@wadry "Are you free?"
 
2:20 PM
@RoelvanUden Don't be stupid, Roel.
 
@Sippy IT GODDAMN IS
 
@KendallFrey Not according to my contract, usually a few grand a month
 
@Sippy I can't help iiit
 
@wadry Good, because I don't take free candy
 
@KendallFrey What would you like to be charged for? nothing kinky mind ... my girl gets all @Amy on an emo day when she hears of such things
 
2:21 PM
Not sure if my headphones are dying, or every audio that plays is clipping
 
@wadry Whoa lol
Actually
I can see that.
 
yeh see that ... that's basically my other half at "that time of the month"
you have been warned
 
Amy's gonna smack you about in a minute lol
 
Not even my boss crosses her
@Sippy im so dead ... maybe I should remove the comment
 
She's RO she can see it anyway
Rofl
 
2:26 PM
goth pony is kinda cute though
oh crap can room owners see deleted stuff?
uh oh
 
Click history :D
 
awww man
 
user47589
yep
 
that's not good
 
kill him
 
user47589
2:27 PM
you are so fucked.
 
you gonna get hoofed m8
 
user47589
gets her banhammer out
 
uh oh
love you really ... honest
 
Amy uses Trample.
 
every room needs a pony
** cough **
 
user47589
2:28 PM
I feel you're being sexist, @wadry. "hormonal", really? It's unwelcome.
 
I think you like getting trampled.
 
@Amy fair nuff
 
user47589
You're pretty much asking for trouble. Just stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
user47589
thanks cap
 
2:30 PM
Perfect timing as ever
 
how does cap know that shit?
 
stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
stahp
 
HAMMAHTIME!
 
2:30 PM
halt
 
HAMMERZEIT!
 
ah ok
lol
 
user47589
haha I didn't know halt
 
Lol
 
CAESUM
 
user47589
2:31 PM
cap?
 
SISTITE
 
MALLEUS TEMPUS!
 
If you ping it sometimes she answers
@CapricaSix canada sucks
 
not as much as your mom
 
@CapricaSix stop
 
2:31 PM
HAMMERTIME!
 
@CapricaSix bad bot
 
what is limit of int
in c#
 
int.MaxValue
 
int.MaxValue
 
it's like 2 billion something
unless you do uint.MaxValue
 
2:32 PM
2,147,somethingsomethingbillion
@MuhammadRaja Seriously learn the fuck how to google.
 
user47589
!!google c# int max value
 
that's like 4 billion
 
user47589
wow, google is so easy!
 
Wow!
 
2:33 PM
I love that google command
most useful thing cap does
we need more commands like that
 
!!> Number.MAX_SAFE_INTEGER
 
@KendallFrey 9007199254740991
 
I hope you all know what this means
 
the youtube one is pretty good and the urban one too, but the google ones is actually useful
 
@KendallFrey A new enterprise standard?
 
user47589
2:34 PM
there needs to be a MSDN command, like the MDN one
2
 
@Sippy what
 
user47589
I guess it's the google command with site:msdn.microsoft.com appended to the query?
 
@Amy completely agree, good idea ... maybe we can give it a fully qual type name and have it return the link
 
@KendallFrey "Int is too small. We need to change our implementation of int to match Javascript's Number."
@Amy Nop
The MDN one isn't, anyway.
 
user47589
ah i see.
 
2:35 PM
@Amy but then go to the first link in the result set and its that link we want
 
@Sippy Aaaand you just proved you don't know what it means
 
@Sippy double DONE
 
@KendallFrey fistpump
Enlighten me
 
user47589
There should be a triple datatype
 
user47589
We have single and double
 
user47589
2:36 PM
Why stop there?
 
@Amy long maybe
 
@Amy we has decimal
 
Have a nice weekend lovers
 
if you really wnat to go there use msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/…
 
Partay weekend in Sweden
 
2:36 PM
@Amy Well, since you asked...
We have no hardware support for quads
 
user47589
@KendallFrey Intel should get right on that.
 
what most annoys me is that GPU's languages don't have support for 3d arrays
 
@Amy lol
 
what's all that about
 
@Amy I'm sure it's possible. I'd do it but I still haven't figured out how cap works with params
 
2:37 PM
This conversation went from zero to nerd in literally seconds.
 
n dimensional bad ass GPU and you can't declare a multidimensional array
 
It's all regex-y and and I'm shit at regex
 
@Sippy do you feel at home now?
 
@Kendall could write the command for MSDN in all of 5 mins
But he won't
 
2:38 PM
not 5 minutes
 
how do you write commands for cap?
 
!!help learn
 
@mikeTheLiar learn: Teaches me a command. /learn cmdName outputPattern [inputRegex [description]]
 
ooo regex ... meh
 
well maybe
it looks easy
 
2:40 PM
I was going to use this as a demo:
 
Someone teach her toallstupid
 
in Sandbox, Aug 11 '15 at 13:28, by rlemon
!!/learn pizza <>http://lorempizza.com/$1/$2#.png (\\d+)\s(\d+) 'gives you pizza!'
 
Hi, Can someone help me with this super easy databinding in WPF?
 
!!/learn msdn <>https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/$1
 
@wadry Command msdn learned
 
2:42 PM
!!msdn system.string
 
ok that didn't work
 
Close
 
@wadry I think you actually want a google search
 
probably
 
2:43 PM
!!bing bing is better than google
 
just wanted to see if i could make a command that would complete the link with whatever the param was
 
@SteveG said no one, ever
 
!!unlearn msdn
 
@wadry That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: learn
 
2:44 PM
!!unlearn msdn
!!msdn foo
 
forget
 
!!forget msdn
 
@wadry Command msdn forgotten.
 
ahha
lol
thx steve
 
2:45 PM
How about a command that says "Wardy".Randomise() pls
 
how is the google command defined ?
can i get cap to tell me?
 
how is babby defined
 
so I made a thing.
 
user47589
!!info google
 
what does everyone think?
 
2:47 PM
@Amy Command google, created by God
 
(works in chrome at least)
 
!!/learn msdn <>https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/$1 (\\d+)\s(\d+) 'msdn link'
 
@wadry Command msdn learned
 
!!msdn system.string
 
@wadry Input not matching /(\d+)\s(\d+)/. Help: User-taught command: 'msdn <>https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/$1
 
2:48 PM
!!forget msdn
 
@KendallFrey Command msdn forgotten.
 
you want a plugin with all probability
 
not sure exactly what im defining here
the help thing wasn't terribly clear
learn: Teaches me a command. /learn cmdName outputPattern [inputRegex [description]]
so /learn <command name> <what output> <???>
 
what input
 
ok so the regex should define how to process the whole line?
or just the bit after the command name?
 
2:50 PM
the latter
 
ah ok
 
!!info tel
 
@KendallFrey Command tel, created by rlemon on Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:12:56 GMT
 
!!help tel
 
@KendallFrey tel: User-taught command: <>@$0
 
2:51 PM
ezpz
 
!!/learn msdn <>https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/$1 @$0 'msdn link'
 
@wadry Command msdn learned
 
!!forget msdn
 
user47589
yay @rlemon
 
2:52 PM
@rlemon Command msdn forgotten.
 
what did I just link
 
awww
@rlemon you saying I should add commands to the bot code?
 
and I just got done downloading the code
 
clone the repo and stuff ?
 
welp thanks le mon
@wadry only if they're important and can't be taught
 
2:54 PM
I was actually making decent progress in the sandbox
But rlemon's will is law
 
user47589
how big was your castle?
 
!!msdn int maxvalue
 
@KendallFrey That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: mdn
 
3 mins ago, by rlemon
I just need to rebuild now
well get on it
 
@KendallFrey still building it
 
user47589
2:55 PM
i guess he hasn't rebuilt it
 
@Amy it was the sort of castle King Arthur would live in, if he were a fiddler crab
 
zirak has some funky build tools I need to install
 
lol
 
user47589
@mikeTheLiar then @sippy should feel right at home
 
hmmm this makes me wanna build cool stuff for the SO chat bot
what about a .net fiddle !!netfiddle ref
 
2:56 PM
what
 
Time for a .NET chat bot!
 
Rav
time to duel!
 
@RoelvanUden We've tried this numerous times
 
user47589
Hook CleverBot up to C# chat.
 
please god no
 
2:57 PM
Or Tay, that would be fun
 
Chocolate rain
 
user47589
Purple chocolate rain.
 
@Sippy I was testing something, didn't meant to ask for max value of int, sorry

please do have a look at my profile before suggesting googling by the way,

Thanks all for the answers
 
@TomW We should create our own Tay
 
Bon
LOL
 
2:59 PM
Ms now has API's for all that stuff
 
> please do have a look at my profile before suggesting googling by the way,
 
user47589
@MuhammadRaja you asked an obvious question, "what is max value of int". we were right to criticize you.
 
what the hell
 
In a WPF app, if I assign DataContext of a page to a class, shouldn't the properties be visible in the XAMl when I do something like Binding Path =?
 
OH MY GOD LMAO
 
Rav
2:59 PM
rude...
 
@Amy Yes, you were, I appreciate that, thank you again
 
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