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4:00 PM
I'm in two minds about adopting the name Dick later in life
Cos even though Dick is a serious name, Dick Cane is a pornstar name.
 
@Sippy you seem to know a lot about dick
 
I don't know what that means
 
@Sippy that edit lol
 
there's a pornstar by that name?
 
No.
 
4:00 PM
You merely adopted the dick life, I was born into it.
 
That would be me.
 
you're a pornstar?
 
@mikeTheLiar It didn't read right haha
@KendallFrey I could be
If I used that name lol
 
what does that name have to do with anything
 
blumpkin
 
4:02 PM
How have you never heard of the phrase "pornstar name" before
 
Dick Blumpkin?
 
If you met a nice normal girl called Candy Cane you might think "Huh, she has a pornstar name."
That is the premise of this conversation.
Do you understand or do you need a demonstration
 
@SteveG there's a bar here that does a seasonal drink - pumpkin beer with a cinnamon sugar rim and a shot of vanilla Bacardi. They call it "A Blumpkin with a Rimjob"
 
@mikeTheLiar If you can find a single person in the world with the surname 'Blumpkin' I'll send you a cookie.
@mikeTheLiar That's just not nice.
Drink sounds good though
 
A rambling conversation I had once started with someone pointing out that you could buy vodka with THC in it. Someone else reckoned after that they'd bust out the Cocaine Calvados.
 
4:04 PM
@Sippy Don't shoot the messenger
 
@TomW Can you..?
 
Cue thinking of drink+drugs combinations.
 
That seems like a bad idea.
 
@Sippy I believe so
Yeah.
I came up with Meow Meow Midori. I thought that sounded like a porn star name.
 
@Sippy forebears.io/surnames/blumpkin where's my fucking cookie?
 
4:06 PM
NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Blumpkina though rofl
 
I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND GET MY COOKIE DAMMIT
 
deadpool will stab you
@KendallFrey
 
@Sippy sure, but how is Dick Cane a pornstar name
 
how is it not
 
@TomW Coca Cola
 
4:12 PM
also more importantly please confirm whether the rumours about maple syrup are true
 
@Sippy The only thing porny about it is the dick
@Sippy I've never done it, but I'm sure it's tasty
 
@KendallFrey what, dick?
 
@Sippy how many Canadians have to confirm it to you before you'll believe?
 
All 5 of us
 
@TomW ^
 
4:14 PM
You know you're Canadian when the gun you had as a child is just a hockey stick flipped upside down.
 
Can't children have guns in Canada
 
You know you're American when the hockey stick you had as a child is just a gun flipped upside down.
 
Like real guns
kek.
Lol one of the seniors just massively improved the caching in one of our dinosaur legacy applications and it runs so fast now
He's so happy
 
@Sippy This isn't America bud
 
@Sippy wtf ... canadians are messed up
 
4:17 PM
I guess.. that's the only respite you get when working on VB.NET legacy projects xD
@wadry I agree. Golden syrup is way better.
 
you take that back
i swear on me mum
and do the unspeakable on your mum
 
:)
i agree, canadians are messed up, i mean, just look at kendall :p
 
yeah .. he's like a poster boy for why there aren't more people in canadia
 
lmfao.
 
@Sippy ROFL
 
4:23 PM
Why am I still working
 
@Sippy Mainly this:
 
Hahaha
 
that is actually in Canada, ftr
 
Dude your house is buried
You should sort that out
Build a moat around your house
Fill it with salt
Problem solved
 
ROFL
 
4:24 PM
Canada: where it's so cold salt won't melt the snow
 
Sounds like a copout to me
Surround your house with heat lamps
scare the snow away
 
I wonder how many hundred heat lamps it would take to melt the snow around a house
 
@KendallFrey Or a couple of really, really big ones.
 
boom, house fire
 
well it'd get rid of the snow
 
4:28 PM
The idea being you have a snow sensor™ which turns the lamps on when it starts snowing
Then you never get snow round ya house.
 
4:42 PM
guys remember newbie coder? She broke a page and she thinks it's not her changes. I'm looking at her code and shes' the only one who touched that section
PM asked me to look over her bugs
and fix it
There have been change after hers, just to make sure... can I rollback her changes and then put them back in later in TFS?
Rollback, test the code, then rollforward
?
 
yeh you can do that
the act of rolling back creates a new change set so you just roll your own change set back out to get back to the "her state"
 
Writing code with a noob is like pushing your mother up a hill. It seems like you're rolling back more than you're moving forward.
 
tell me about it
i still don't feel like the guy that sits behind me gets generics
or js
or the concept of a jit compiled view
 
at least he knows instances
 
"code in the view is compiled at runtime"
@KalaJ doubt it
 
4:47 PM
i dont know sippy about JIT compiled views?
 
LOL
 
@SteveG lmao
time to optimise my mesh gen
 
no, i'm serious
i really don't
 
Wadry.... I don't know how to use TFS
if I go her changeset and click on rollback...do other people see that I rollbacked her changes or just me? Just me right?
 
@KalaJ no one knows how to use TFS because TFS isn't usable
 
4:49 PM
then you are not the right person to be doing that job
@KalaJ nope everyone it goes in to the change history
 
aw ok
 
you could however just get the version of the code from before that check in
test that, then get the current version and test that
 
ok I'll edit it back to the way it was for my local copy, see if it works and then one by one insert her changes and see where it breaks. Some of her code is weird
yeah my version was fine
until I merged with latest
 
:D
 
But then again there were a few other contributors
 
4:51 PM
im tired, i ate a big pie
 
so I haven't "guarantee" it was hers alone :/
 
user47589
pie?
 
pie is delicious!
 
yes
well, slice of pie
grand traverse pie is the best ever
 
user47589
i like pie.
 
4:53 PM
but, who can recommend a programming book for me? I feel like i focus a lot on the higher level architecture of stuff, and am looking for some lower level design improvements
@Amy yeah i guessed that
 
At every meetup I've been to lately, they recommend two books
 
@KalaJ this reminds me of "interned sort" thedailywtf.com/articles/interned-sort
 
Was recommended that
 
Domain Driven Development
 
user47589
4:53 PM
learn compiler design, get the Dragon book
 
@wadry that's the second time you've posted that link. Are you trying to tell us something?
 
and Agile Practices, Paradigms and something else in C# lol
 
i don't mean lower level as in, assembly or compiler construction, just lower level OOD stuff, not so much about DDD and all that fluff
 
@mikeTheLiar no I was just pointing out that the conversation reminded me of it
 
@TomW thanks let me read some of that
 
4:54 PM
What Amy said
 
@wadry Blink twice if you need help
 
i always need help
 
compiler construction makes me want to die
 
i'm a developer
 
I want to learn more about low level stuff too like assemblies and how C# code breaks down to IL and bytecode
 
4:56 PM
then read the documentation
 
@TomW yeah no
lol
 
Make your mind up :P
Do you want an in-depth book or not :P
 
lmao
like, idk what i'm looking for
 
user47589
out parameters are making my life hell today.
 
lookin for love in all the wrong places
 
4:59 PM
@wadry lol have you seen the enterprise sort? thedailywtf.com/articles/… fourteen fucking classes for one sort
 
@amy, if you haven't already, join us: womentechmakers.com :)
 
@KendallFrey hover over link ... notes that its friday, notes that kendall seems interested ... yup ... im being trolled ... what a suprise kendall!
 
haha @wadry yup. That's why I am not clicking :P
 
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SMART PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM
 
sorry ...
 
5:01 PM
I'm going back to JS
 
Lol
 
we should teach cap to troll kendall
whenever he posts something she should troll him with random crap about his mom or something
 
@wadry she already has plugins to troll at least one person
 
lol
 
5:06 PM
Whenever jAndy speaks she has a chance to say "the game"
 
now im wondering how long it'll take before she starts quoting the odata spec at me lol
@mikeTheLiar shit that was close
thank cap I have a good browser and inspect all links in here now before clicking them
cap needs a 302 command
 
@wadry That won't do you any good when you're up against a pro
 
like this: !!Is302 :30254086
or maybe some sort of black Friday Filter
 
5:10 PM
 
@KendallFrey haha
 
@CapricaSix haha ... now put that as the text in caps response
 
what is the dragon book?
 
@KendallFrey That's worse than Rick Astley!
 
5:11 PM
well of course
Rick Astley is brilliant
 
is there a way to tell cap to join a chat room ?
wanna put her in the gamedev chat
 
live, I think
!!help live
 
@mikeTheLiar live: Resurrects me (:D) if I'm down (D:)
 
Hmm. Maybe that only works if she's already there?
 
5:12 PM
!!summon
 
!!help summon
 
@mikeTheLiar summon: Say boopidi bee and in the room I shall be. /summon roomid
 
!!say boopidi bee
 
@mikeTheLiar That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: sad, yay
 
5:13 PM
lol
 
lol
 
sad & yay
cap is bipolar confirmed
 
!!sad yay
 
@mikeTheLiar Hi there. It seems you're sad. I can't tell if you're messing around or you're serious, but if you need someone to talk to, my master is always available for a chat. Either way, I hope you feel better soon! Have a hug! (っ'з')っ
 
Aww
 
5:13 PM
!!yay sad
 
holy shit
 
w...t...f
 
And we're all watching a piglet jerk off
 
at least he has a seatbelt
 
5:14 PM
what am i looking at here
disturbing ... i can't unsee that
 
!!summon 19
 
@wadry I will appear in that room after 1 more invocation(s)
@wadry Already registered; still need 1 more
 
oh like that is it
bitch
 
!!summon 19
 
5:16 PM
she appears to have ignored you
jeez ... must be time of the month hey @CapricaSix
 
maybe I need to be in that room?
 

 Game Development

Game development and other polite discussion. Game development...
 
!!summon 19
 
@mikeTheLiar I will appear in that room after 1 more invocation(s)
 
Hio
I am le home.
 
5:17 PM
WTF bitch you just said that
 
!!summon 19
 
Not you @Sippy
 
i htink cap is broken ... again
I'm doing well at breaking her today
 
!!are you alive?
 
@Sippy All signs point to no
 
5:18 PM
Fuckin trolly bitch shut up
 
sippy gettin flippy
 
@wadry you brought this on yourself
 
@mikeTheLiar bitch can't take my awesome skills
 
I'm back~
 
awww
 
5:23 PM
Hi back, I'm Kendall
 
Get off the internet, dad
 
@KendallFrey went here fireramen.com while on the trip where they played Friday multiple times an hour and thought of you.
 
hmmm ... Im in the top 3% this week
 
!!isrebecca fireramen.com
 
5:24 PM
its safe
click it
 
the owner was an old angry looking Japanese guy, but he loved the song.
 
@KendallFrey i don't understand this
 
5:31 PM
!!youtube die antwoord ninja
 
jeez no ... bad kendall
try this instead ...
prefer this video though ...
those touchpad things are cool lol
 
!!youtube parabola
 
5:37 PM
I'm wondering, are these two properties equivalent:
public int Id { get; private set; }
public int Id { get; }
 
the comments on this are pure gold: youtube.com/watch?v=doFEQo8Hgck
 
@Alex no
 
@Alex no
 
the second one isn't even valid
 
yes it is
 
5:38 PM
how?
 
the ctor of the class its defined in can set it
 
there's no way for it to be used usefully in any sense
 
@wadry what?
 
I think that's the only time it can be set though
its basically a const
 
5:39 PM
> 'MyClass.MyProperty.get' must declare a body because it is not marked abstract or extern. Automatically implemented properties must define both get and set accessors.
you're wrong
 
@SteveG omfg im so stealing that
@KendallFrey hmmm are you sure about that?
 
So the first one is useful; the second is valid but more or less useless, unless you set the value in the c'tor, which is what do
 
As sure as the compiler is
@Alex nope, second one is invalid
 
But it doesn't throw any errors
 
does for me
 
5:41 PM
public RelayCommand CloseRelayCommand { get; }
 
I set that in the c'tor with no issues
I trust you; just wondering why my code doesn't blow up
 
Is this something that changed in C# 6?
I can't find it
 
Good question
 
Looks like that's the case, but it's poorly documented
 
5:46 PM
But it's probably good practice to avoid doing that kind of property, right?
 
If you're using C# 6 and it makes sense, go ahead I guess
I suppose that's the property version of readonly
 
I just spent several minutes in disbelief over a "An object reference is required for the nonstatic field" compile error, before realizing there was a nested class defined.
 
I kept thinking of it as an implicit private set;
 
"You're not a static method, why do you fucking care?" etc
 
Thanks for helping with that question, @KendallFrey and @wadry :)
 
5:50 PM
I need to write more Haskell
 
@MikeAsdf Hey Mike, thanks again.
 
oh yeah, y'welcome
 
@MikeAsdf Yeah, understanding that it is an IEnumerable at the end really cleared it all.
I ended up doing:
 
@KendallFrey i stand corrected
 
I as well
 
5:52 PM
@Alex yeh thats what i was thinking
 
                    foreach (var summary in productSummaries)
                    {
                        var mvvmModel = new ProductSummaryModelViewModel();
                        mvvmModel.CustomerName = summary.Select(o => o.CusName).FirstOrDefault();
                        mvvmModel.CustomerNumber = summary.Select(o => o.CusNum).FirstOrDefault();
                        mvvmModel.Total = summary.Sum(o => o.QtyShip);
                        mvvmModel.Hits = summary.Count();

                        var collection = new List<ProductSummaryOrders>();
 
its almost odd that you have to specify a set tbh
 
Not at all
 
C#6 is so much going to the point of "don't do a thing, we will just imply your codebase" that its crazy to think they actually require that
 
If you can never assign a property, there will be nothing useful in it
 
5:53 PM
but it's a reasonable thing to demand I suppose
 
@wadry They don't
See above
 
they are getting really good at implying quite a lot
@KendallFrey yeh i did that's why I was like "wow fair enough I was wrong to think what I did"
tbh out of habit I would always define both get and set anyway
 
@Greg you might want to consider extracting out the IEnumerable into a List
 
@wadry As a Haskell programmer, "Oh wait you're serious. Let me laugh even harder."
 
just "cuz" lol
 
5:55 PM
I'm not sure if a group-based IEnumerable is speedy for operations like ElementAt
But if it will only be used for small data then whatevs
 
@MikeAsdf Rather than loop through each key, then building the specific MVVM?
 
Hello!
 
@Greg to be clear: productSummaries is the result of a GroupBy, correct?
 
Yes.
 
so I'd maybe do:
foreach (var group in productSummaries)
{
    var summary = group.ToList();
 
5:59 PM
@MikeAsdf I was thinking about that, but I wanted to make sure that the MVVM basically had a single Customer Name, Customer Number, and some calculations, then place the individual contents into a separate List. That would duplicate some stuff and wouldn't include the extra calculation properties.
 

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