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6:00 AM
google isn't very good at releasing projects in a complete and usable state
this sky stuff seems so wishy washy
 
lol you assume google is a single entity instead of a bunch of random factions doing random stuff
 
an* single entity
 
Dave Thomas about Scrum Master Training :D
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva ??? no it's not an is a, an is if there's another a coming up. i'm a native speaker :| you probably wont win these
 
6:03 AM
I wouldn't say that TS has had much more success than Dart in a fraction of the time since TS came out in 2012 and Dart was a year later...
 
Also "I'm an native speaker" doesn't prove anything
 
WTF has native speaker to do with this discussion?
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf single entity, random factions, whatever. Their projects still seem really 'messy'. Maybe their projects are just so huge its difficult to have nice and clean repos and documentation
 
:25709904 Yeah well without proper capitalization and orthography in your sentences I'm not going to be convinced indeed :D
ok then
 
O didn't see that, I thought it was an argument in the TS vs Dart discussion :-)
 
6:05 AM
Kinda sad tbh to read "I'm a native speaker hence you're wrong" followed by "I have nothing to prove". Oh well, internet.
 
maybe he pronounces 'single' "essingal" or with some weird stress that makes it 'an' :p
 
> grammer
lol
better not argue indeed
 
verbibols
 
Must be "native speaker" privilege too
 
@Prismatic were you waterloo by chance
 
6:11 AM
Meaning what
 
uwaterloo grad
 
yes
 
(se or cs) + coop?
 
tron eng
why did you think I was from waterloo?
 
interesting, & magic
 
6:15 AM
did you go there as well?
(do I know you some how?)
 
Okay
 
sup
 
struct vertex { Vector3 position; }; -> need to use gl::VertexAttribPointer(0, 4, gl::FLOAT, ...)
struct vertex { Vector2 position; }; -> need to use gl::VertexAttribPointer(0, 3, gl::FLOAT, ...)
WHAT THE FUCK.
There is NO padding, I'm static_asserting that, and there's NO space between the data, the size of the array is something I'm also static_asserting.
What the fucking blue fuck, OpenGL
And if I have a Vector4 ? WELL SHIT TOO BAD FOR ME, passing 4 doesn't work, and passing 5 hard-errors the runtime.
Fucking
awdhadhwdjwak
 
sizeof(vector2) == ?
 
@Prismatic 8
 
6:26 AM
You've got some really weird shit going on
 
Everybody at NVidia is fired.
 
Do other OpenGL applications work?
 
The fuck do I know, I don't have any.
 
Also Nvidia has one of the better drivers in a way; its pretty good about being fault tolerant and not super nit picky esp in shaders
 
Actually no
When you're a dev it's horrible. You want the shader compiler to be pedantic and crash loudly.
 
6:29 AM
I... give up on OpenGL entirely. I'm going back to D3D.
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva true
 
Hence why AMD is better for development. If it works on AMD, it'll work on NVIDIA. The other way around, not sure D:
 
How did this even happen.
Maybe it really is just me.
I'll give my app to Borgleader or someone else tomorrow or something..
.... Today***********
 
Just start small so you always have a sanity check
 
This program can't get any smaller.
 
6:32 AM
Like why dont you have a trivial reference application to just draw a triangle or something
 
THIS SI JUST DRAWING A SINGLE TRIANGLE
 
arent you working on a rendering engine
 
@ThePhD bby u know what else *punch*
 
dies right the fuck into bed
One last question before I go.
vec2{ 1, 2, 3, 4 }
^ Currently asserts and dies
Better behavior: just truncate to first 2 values?
 
Better behavior don't compile at all
 
6:35 AM
std::initializer_list doesn't allow that kind of compile-time hijinks.
 
Don't use initializer_list
 
And variadic template constructors are a tad too greedy.
 
I am guessing float x, float y is not fancy enough for a constructor?
Why the fuck do you need variadics
 
Well, the class passes to a generic Vector<T, n> base.
 
It's a vector of TWO elements
 
6:37 AM
And that has variadic / initializer-list machinery in it.
 
did you write your own math libs
 
Yes.
A long time ago.
 
thats just criminal
 
That's kind of pointless because you'll never use anything else but vec2,3,4
 
Yeah, but I had a lot of duplicate code in places.
Wanted to slim it down bunches.
 
6:38 AM
Doesn't make inheritance like that justifiable
 
And I managed to do just that.
When I say "base", I mean typedef Vector<float, 4> vec4;
No real inheritance involved...
 
"The XPS 13 Developer Edition is not just a laptop that can run Linux, it is a Linux Laptop." - @FelicianoTech says: http://del.ly/6013BJd8c
do want
 
Yeah well they STILL HAVEN'T FIXED DUPLICATE KEYPRESSES
 
0,0 is the center of the screen in OpenGl NDC screen coords, right?
 
You seem to want to force multi_pass to work with "regular" iterators. Well. You can iff you write your own input policy. Personally I think that's insanity. It'll just make everything inefficient. What other libraries do you know that make streams behave as ranges? — sehe 2 mins ago
Tough lovin'
 
6:51 AM
@ThePhD yes
 
This seems so wrong, then.
That shouldn't look like that.
 
Giant influx of boost asio questions this season
 
I need to figure out what the screenspace coords are right now. This looks way too off.
 
lol people posting a screenshot of their stacktrace and source code
 
@sehe You are at fault. You answered too many too well!
 
6:53 AM
That doesn't really add up :)
But thanks, in a way :)
 
@ThePhD arent those coordinates a line
 
Yes, and its still rendering.
 
Are you multiplying the vertices by anything?
 
No.
They're not touched.
 
Have you considered starting from somewhere really trivial
 
6:56 AM
I am
literally
 
where's your source
 
doing exactly fucking that
 
ou est ta source codé
 
user1804599
hi sluts
 
6:58 AM
Hi, how're you?
 
@elyse ura slut
 
user1804599
yes :(
 
@ThePhD I was thinking more along the lines of an SSCCE kinda jam
 
user1804599
@ThePhD GOOD
 
user1804599
my tooth got fixed
 
7:00 AM
what was wrong with it
 
@Prismatic :l
 
lol that #if 0
 
@LucDanton No squinty eyes 0/10 realism
 
...
What
WHAT
WHAT THE FUCK CHANGED, IT'S WORKING PROPERLY WITH AN OFFSET OF 2 NOW
I added a static assert
LITERALLY, I added one static assert
and it started working
Id idn't even changed the definitions
what the bloody wajhdwkjdhwahdjwhdwkahdjwkhdajwkhdwdhaw
 
7:06 AM
literally compile-time magic
 
Gggggggggggggggggggggggggg.
 
:D
 
thats what happens when you forget to recite the sacred blood pact voodoo mantra before compiling
 
I am staring at the diff. Literally the only change:
static_assert(sizeof( vertex[ 4 ] ) == sizeof( GLfloat ) * 2 * 4, "Fuck");
AND SUDDENLY, PONIES.
POOONIIIIES.
 
Hello!
Is everyone's teeth okay today?
 
7:11 AM
wat
 
Are your teeth okay @Griwes
Maybe you need context?
 
wat.
 
Lol
Fuck special casing
void* b = 0; // Yeah sure fine
void* b = 6; // OH GOD FUCK YOU
 
You know why that is so.
 
user1804599
Null pointers are stupid.
 
7:17 AM
Because inconsistency is great?
 
user1804599
Use Rust.
 
No, because C.
 
Null pointers are stupid, but don't use pointers
Why do you use void pointers anyway are you trying to get yourself arrested
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Just a nice little inconsistency when passing numbers to this void* taking parameter here (which is translated as a byte offset but was kept void* for ~~compat~~).
0 needs no cast. But ~0? Prepare your anus.
 
7:19 AM
Don't pass numbers via void *.
???
 
byte offset should be size_t
 
Not my API.
 
Profit.
 
@slaphappy off_t
 
@ThePhD they expect you to pass a pointer, that's why. Don't hack around this expectation, it could go bad.
 
user1804599
7:20 AM
@slaphappy no
 
user1804599
it should be signed
 
@elyse I assumed he didn't really mean offset, but yeah
 
user1804599
void* p;
std::intptr_t n = 6;
std::memcpy(&p, &n, sizeof(n));
 
6 hours ago, by Anastasiya Asadullayeva
@Tony let's migrate to Europe together
but I'm already here
 
user1804599
Then you're done.
 
7:22 AM
England is not really part of europe
 
user1804599
memcpy_cast<void*>(std::intptr_t(6))
 
Remind us what your currency is
 
@slaphappy close enough, really
@slaphappy Great British Pound
 
@slaphappy The API says to pass a byte offset as const void*. So.... no.
 
@TonyTheLion Don't you live on that muslim island off the coast of europe?
 
7:23 AM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva lol
47 secs ago, by Tony The Lion
@slaphappy close enough, really
 
English people and their adjectives, we don't trade Great Euros
 
Lol. My little OpenGL app rendering a single triangle and clearing the screen as fast as possible boosted my laptop's core temp to 92 degrees Celsius.
 
user1804599
imagine you were a fool.
 
user1804599
now accept it as reality
 
7:28 AM
95 degrees C now.
 
user1804599
turn it off
 
Great cooling system.
 
user1804599
it's not good for your computer
 
Yeah, I turned off the app, core temp is plumenting down back to the 80s.
 
user1804599
@ThePhD yes maybe use a laptop for what a laptop is to be used for
 
7:29 AM
@ThePhD sorry, the API sucks, not you. You're great :)
 
@slaphappy Liar.
 
80 is still pretty high
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ oh, so that's where Martin has been
 
@JohanLarsson 72 and dropping.
Will probably stay around 65.
 
you have an idle temp of 65?
 
7:33 AM
65 when idle?
 
that is insane
 
I'm compiling, connecting to the internet, and streaming.
 
@ThePhD streaming?
 
user1804599
my temperature when idling is 37 degrees
 
iow, idle
 
user1804599
7:34 AM
it's also 37 degrees when working hard
 
isn't it 36.6?
 
user1804599
viruses occasionally cause it to rise or drop though
 
@elyse measure again
 
I don't even have system fans, just cpu gpu and psu fans, and I hardly hit the 60s under load
 
I start not feeling well when I reach 37
 
user1804599
7:35 AM
37 = 36.6
 
@thecoshman It's a laptop.
 
clean it
 
E_TOO_DIFFICULT
 
I want a path gradient in wpf
cannot be achieved with a pixelshader right?
 
user1804599
whyn't
 
7:38 AM
@JohanLarsson why not
 
dunno, asking you guys if it is worth a try
sounds like it is time to open Shazzam
 
> GLubyte
Seriously?
Byte is already unsigned.
When was this a convention?
 
> opengl
 
Time to slowly replace things until I break something else again.
 
@ThePhD ffs, do you not understand the purpose of those GL* types?
 
7:53 AM
@thecoshman Wat.
 
The idea is that OGL can specify what it means by 'ubyte' and the language bindings can map the most appropriate type they have to that.
I don't see why the concept of a signed one byte integer is so hard to comprehend, and thus why an unsigned one byte integer seems so preposterous
 
What happens when you get back to work after a few days sick leave i.imgur.com/eKvbffy.png
 
sleep your computer when you leave
 
woof woof
 

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