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6:00 PM
get the old icon
 
eh not enough languages to learn
 
come on that was star worthy
 
then make one
 
no time
 
@Mr.kbok when was that abandoned
 
6:00 PM
@BartekBanachewicz recently
 
@Puppy meh, i dont know nearly enough about lang design
@Mr.kbok link?
 
cba sorry :s
 
found it
lmao
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well then there's only one way to improve
 
6:01 PM
@Mr.kbok Why is Centralne Biuro Antykorupcyjne watching you :O
 
@набиячлевэлиь Because he's corrupt?
 
@набиячлевэлиь who? where?
 
> But we have not given up, fortunately, biicode as a project/technology is alive, and even if our resources are lower, there are still hundreds of active users enjoying it. We have released a full stack as open source
 
@Mr.kbok there
 
@Puppy I don't want to learn that in particular
 
6:03 PM
polish jokes
I don't get them
 
@набиячлевэлиь R I I P C O D E
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, but... you know
 
it's C++ what did you expect
flourishing growth?
 
@BartekBanachewicz You always called me ignorant when I said that
 
@Puppy except you're actually making a language
I'm not, hence why I'm not learning about language design.
if you have too much time on your hands Haskell community needs way more firepower :S
that's what I'll probably be doing
 
6:05 PM
puppypower
 
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puppy pride world wide
 
C++ is a dead end, Swift is more or less a toy
 
@BartekBanachewicz Language design isn't what I said that about ;p
 
6:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz C++ is cool!
 
user1804599
Vlinder is the future.
 
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THREADS
 
@MarcoA. so is brainfuck, but that doesn't mean it's a viable development tool
 
you made me cry :' (
 
user1804599
bartek I implemented type inference are you proud
 
6:06 PM
h-m?
 
now now bartek
that's very uncharitable of you.
 
user1804599
YES
 
C++ is a zombie end that just won't die
 
@elyse I'm proud then.
 
user1804599
ok
 
6:07 PM
I could research FRP more
I think Hate has a tremendous potential to put a lot of my ideas into play
I'm going to be learning types and math as well, but that's hard and goes slowly :/
 
much like my dick
 
hmm Factorio is still updating
cool, I should check out those things
herp derp
 
user1804599
I am bored.
 
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I want to do something fun.
 
write a game using Hate
 
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6:15 PM
wtf no
 
user1804599
game development is not fun
 
@elyse get drunk
 
@elyse Try acrobranch.
 
user1804599
no
 
user1804599
that's not programming
 
6:16 PM
You never said it had to be programming-related.
 
@elyse get into a black metal group
 
user1804599
> something fun
 
and play classics like Marduk
 
Adjective: fun ‎(comparative more fun or funner, superlative most fun or funnest)
  1. (informal) enjoyable, amusing
  2. (informal) whimsical, flamboyant
  3. fun ‎(invariable)
Noun: fun ‎(uncountable)
  1. amusement, enjoyment or pleasure
  2. playful, often noisy, activity.
Verb: fun ‎(third-person singular simple present funs, present participle funning, simple past and past participle funned)
  1. (colloquial) To tease, kid, poke fun at, make fun of.
  2. fun
  3. fun
 
Game programming can be fun
 
6:17 PM
oh what the hell, you can't have fun
 
if you just sit down and relax
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ then you get a bug
 
@elyse Make vlinder homoiconic then?
 
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why :(
 
Why not?
 
6:18 PM
@MarcoA. Not specific to game programming
 
@Puppy is this private stuff? If so, I'm sorry.. I just stumbled upon it.. didn't mean to watch it
 
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user1804599
this looks creepy
 
@MarcoA. nope
 
btw
can anyone tell me, about what @R.MartinhoFernandes and @Ell said, why Canonical are the bad guys?
 
6:25 PM
something about keeping all their source code closed?
 
user1804599
what's Canonical
 
user1804599
oh
 
user1804599
Ubuntu
 
uh it's their source
they have no obligation to share it I suppose
 
What do they teach at schools nowadays ... programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/297327/…
 
6:33 PM
@CaptainGiraffe Everybody's wondered that at least once.
@BartekBanachewicz I agree, but a lot of the Linux dudes are rabid copylefters
the only part I have a problem with is where they sell my keystrokes to Amazon
but instead of bitching I just used Windows which just sells my keystrokes to Microsoft instead.
 
@StackedCrooked Which Anime is this?
 
What on earth has happened to this site. I asked a question about if SDL_Event:s can be lost if I don't poll them in time. It got 3 downvotes and a close request in 3 minutes. Nobody commented on what was so bad about it.. IDK seems a bit rube to me
 
@Nican Classroom Crisis
 
Are "stupid" questions not allowed?
 
6:37 PM
the plonk never was so furious
 
@ScottW Der/Das/Den (dunno) SWNPR Formula race
@AlexM. hehe
@0xbaadf00d so rube
 
google's comments totally make sense
 
Try posting it again on another time during the day.
 
remove_srcs(
    ../src/*moz*   # We're probably not Mozilla.
I'd second that
 
@StackedCrooked I'll do that.
 
6:42 PM
oh ffs mouse scroll works the other way
 
@0xbaadf00d Which question?
 
@0xbaadf00d how is pointar formed ?
that stupid?
 
> “factorio” can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer
wtf
 
"
What happens to events that are posted outside SDL_PollEvent? Are they stored somewhere? Is there some way to configure this?
It seems that my current code is losing events
"

Not word for word, but something close to this. I deleted it already because of the downvotes
 
6:45 PM
lel firewall turned off by default
 
did you buy a fake mac or something?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ it says it's because of my security settings
 
enough
I'm getting a whiskey
 
I deactivated it immediately
 
6:46 PM
@StackedCrooked There's also a gigantic Canadian flag there.
 
you are the enemy
 
At what
 
lol nice about the 30 day thing
 
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@Mr.kbok I'm back. Let me know if you are still having issues.
 
@EtiennedeMartel space race
 
6:47 PM
We already won that when we sent Chris Hadfield, remember?
 
@BartekBanachewicz This is nice, but I'm a little scared for the future.
 
Factorio seems to work perfectly fine
 
(Also, that made me realize that the only time you see a Belgian flag here is on a pack of chocolate)
 
They might end up forbidding all non-certified apps.
 
(Usually delicious chocolate)
 
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6:48 PM
Install Gentoo.
 
@StackedCrooked meh, hobby devs and schools need that
 
@StackedCrooked I've heard Windows 10 is able to remove non original games from your computer
 
you mean like it will remove cliché games?
 
> We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices. You may also be required to update the software to continue using the Services.
2
This is the new term & service thingy from installing Windows 10
Not sure how true
 
6:52 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ of course windows 10 doesn't remove them remotely. it's right there on your computer, no need to do it remotely :p
 
> may our framerates be high and our temperatures low
lol
 
hm wat do
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ do you keep your dock on the bottom or on the side?
I'm still battling myself about that
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ WOW!
 
@BartekBanachewicz left
And I basically never use it
I only have links to various standards in there
Like C, C++ and Haskell standard
And books or other documents
 
mm I guess Spotlight is fine enough
 
6:54 PM
I use spotlight for app/file search
 
@BartekBanachewicz is this your first macbook?
 
Except when you type "safa" and it gives you "spotify" as first result
I can't even to that
 
ah, so you got the warranty at the retailer/whatever? Was wondering since when apple includes free upgrades in their warranty :p
 
6:55 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I keep it left.
 
@melak47 I got it as a gift from lenovo, basically :P
 
lol
can you undock the dock and put it in the center?
 
@BartekBanachewicz ctrl + space, and then type that
 
@melak47 don't think so. Wonder why you'd want to though.
 
what version have you got?
 
6:57 PM
@Bartek among other things: not contributing upstream, and stupid deals with Amazon
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ 10.10.5
@R.MartinhoFernandes k
 
@melak47 left, bottom and right are the only options afaik
 
Oh, that was about Canonical if not clear
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ lol
 
6:58 PM
I honestly have no idea what's going on
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes was perfectly clear, thanks. I was just wondering.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It prolly "learns"
 
I have no playlist named "safa", nor artisti nor nothing that could link to spotify
And even if I search artists in there it obviously doesn't connect to spotify anyway
 
have you tried Safario?
 
I've tried fuckyoualexario
 
okey let's try Ell's game
 
6:59 PM
It still gives me spotify
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ <3
 
maybe it keeps statistics of your mood, and decided you are happier when using spotify
 
am I the only one here without a mac
 
7:00 PM
Nope.
 
@AlexM. No.
 
@AlexM. no
 
Mac users are a minority here.
 
growing, heh.
 
growing by 1 every 2 years
 
user406009
7:01 PM
@AlexM. No
 
Tumors always grow.
 
@Morwenn I used to have a tumor but it shrunk :(
Wait, that doesn't make sense.
 
@Ell your tar link is dead
 
@StackedCrooked I was about to delete the comment, but you were faster :(
 
7:03 PM
I was thinking about trying linux mint
 
@MarcoA. It depends on many variables.
 
@AlexM. Linux sucks.
5
 
@AlexM. it's ubuntu with something
 
At least for desktop.
 
7:03 PM
@StackedCrooked short and to the point
 
@StackedCrooked I'd still keep windows ofc
 
user406009
@StackedCrooked Depends on the use case.
 
user406009
I find it works quite well for me.
 
@StackedCrooked but gimp is great
 
7:04 PM
@StackedCrooked so much better on laptops? :)
 
29 secs ago, by StackedCrooked
At least for desktop.
@MarcoA. lmao
I hope that was irony
mm I should look into Photoshop CS 7 for this machine actually
 
while(linux.sucks())
  gimp.suck_more();
 
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lol
 
7:05 PM
@DaniloRamirez I WANT IT
 
@DaniloRamirez that's like saying black people can also get cancer
 
user406009
Command line support for instance is great on Linux.
 
@BartekBanachewicz wait what?
 
ahaha
"support" and "linux" in one sentence
 
user406009
7:07 PM
Tiling windows managers are also great for multitasking.
 
you know what's great for multitasking? more screens
 
@Lalaland a.k.a. AquaSnap
 
hm wat do
 
@BartekBanachewicz Recompile Git to include gud subcommand
 
I could code something funny in haskell
but don't know what
 
7:09 PM
does any one good at gSoap knowledge
 
why?
 
user406009
Make a stack overflow in Haskell. No wait, you get a stack overflow for free in every Haskell program, so that's too easy.
 
7:10 PM
I didn't get a single stack overflow in a non-toy haskell program
 
so what do you think best option for SOAP EWS
 
I seriously don't get how people keep doing that
 
user406009
Ghc 7.04 my friend. Stack overflows for days.
 
you can write other code than uni assignments
 
@hacktushar Good at gSoap, nope. Used to use it few years back at $JOB.
 
7:13 PM
@wilx so what could be better option?
for EWS, C++
 
hmm i need an ssh key here
 
@hacktushar For C++ there is only Apache AXIS which is AFAIK pretty much dead. I know about no other implementation than these two.
 
@wilx any REST api for this? if you know.
 
@hacktushar REST? Does that not defeat the purpose of using SOAP?
I do not think so.
 
@wilx hmm, yes you are right. so there is no option now days which people use for SOAP with C++?
 
7:18 PM
@hacktushar gSOAP is an option.
 
uh ffs github
I set git config author, but it used some random ssh key info isntead
ffs
 
@wilx i actually using it now days, but i've a soap fault there, if you know about it plz help me. stackoverflow.com/questions/32593482/…
 
commit f55b00ab882dea2c50d1a7374e0c07f6ddfbe1ec
Author: bananu7 <bananu7@o2.pl>
Date:   Tue Sep 15 21:23:00 2015 +0200

    test

commit a3468300e8c0226279452b9292fbf17b8068d353
Author: Bartek Banachewicz <bajtek@Barteks-MacBook-Pro.local>
Date:   Tue Sep 15 21:13:25 2015 +0200

    Removed restrictions that prevented GHC 7.10 build
ffs
this is just dumb
 
^ @набиячлевэлиь People using past tense in commit messages.
Told you it was betttter.
 
@Nooble Imperative is best, but v0v
 
7:24 PM
lol o2.pl
happy with all the spam you get? xd
 
@Gizmo I don't care
 
xd
 
user1804599
Spam is automatically filtered out by any decent mail software.
 
user784668
@elyse So you're saying that if some mail software doesn't blacklist Bartek by default, it's not decent?
 
@hacktushar No idea.
 
user1804599
7:31 PM
Spam filters are quite the buggiest programs in the world though
 
> src/Hate/Util.hs:1:14-24: Warning:
‘Hate.Util’ is marked as Trustworthy but has been inferred as safe!
wtf
that's a warning
 
user1804599
they all have false positives and false negatives, i.e. are bugged
 
one person I know is neither trustworthy nor safe is @Fanael
 
user1804599
Funnel
 
user784668
@elyse bool is_spam() { return false; } has no false negatives, therefore your statement is false
 
7:33 PM
Variable ‘m’ is implicitly quantified due to a context
    Use explicit forall syntax instead.
    This will become an error in GHC 7.12.
mmm
 
constexpr
 
-Wtautological-compare coming to GCC. Who was complaining about it again?
 
@elyse o2 just earns money by allowing spam mail to your inbox so...
but before it reaches me google filters it out nicely
 
user1804599
So? Use a spamfilter.
 
but ye I regret an account creation at o2.pl when I was 11
gmail ftw
 
user1804599
7:36 PM
Glorious Gmail Master Race
 
Seriously, I don't remember having had spam in my main mailbox with hotmail.
 
@Morwenn It sounds like a good thing
> Warn if a comparison always evaluates to true or false
 
hmm people asking for Haskell code mentoring
cool
 
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@Morwenn @Mr.kbok
 
@elyse Yeah, probably.
 
user406009
7:39 PM
I still need to learn how to make my Haskell code faster.
 
@Lalaland Use more stack space
 
@hacktushar do you have an FQDN for a mailserver that will serve a wsdl, please
 
.l1:
add SP, 1
jmp .l1
 
user1804599
stack underflow
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz I agree!
 
7:43 PM
@elyse what?
 
user1804599
yes
 
I was complaining about <map>
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz do you know of any good Haskell optimization guides?
 
Ooooh, right, because the stack was grow-back
@Lalaland USE MORE STACK SPACE
 
user406009
I have already tried profiling, but got worthless answers (my print procedure is certainly not using 75% of my time)
 
7:46 PM
what does mean Foo ?
 
Has anyone used KDevelop 5 for windows?
Is there any compiler in the install package?
 
@Created Foo.
 
posted on September 15, 2015 by Scott Meyers

The April 2000 C++ Report included an important article by Matt Austern: "Why You Shouldn't Use set—and What to Use Instead." It explained why lookup-heavy applications typically get better performance from applying binary search to a sorted std::vector than they'd get from the binary search tree implementation of a std::set. Austern reported that in a test he performed on a Pentium III using

 
clear title
 
at work we often use vectors and pair vectors instead of trees
it behaves well if you have a feed/lock/read usage
 
7:49 PM
std::wtf
 
@orlp Just for the sake of it, the benchmark against spreadsort.
 
Look at my ball, look, for math's sake
ITT: things that should have been named differently
 
Xeo
@Feeds That sounds like common sense. Kinda.
 
@elyse I implemented != < > <= >= this morning ;)
 
user406009
It seems like it would really depend on the size of the set.
 
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7:54 PM
@fredoverflow yay
 
@fredoverflow By the way, what is it exactly you're working on? Some kind of visual C interpreter?
 
@Xeo Yep. There was nothing there that was surprising to me. It basically boiled down to "I made a performance assumption without profiling, and it proved to be wrong"
yep
 
May 23 at 12:30, by fredoverflow
Someday it'll be a beginner IDE for C.
 
Xeo
@Puppy well, back then hash tables weren't all that popular, I guess?
 
@fredoverflow Interesting project :)
Name it Visual C.
 
7:59 PM
I have several ideas for a name, but I'll defer that decision until the first release.
 
@Morwenn A Visual integrated environment... like a desktop... or a studio
 
Eh, I can't drink alcohol. I will take chocolate instead.
 
well if Visual Studio gets ported to linux with all the features it has for windows, nothing will be able to compete
no joke, I'm dead serious
 
No one will care though
 

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