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10:00 PM
that's a tad weird
 
@sehe Yeah. Weather forecasts for Berlin are not as good as I'd hope, but it's a week away, and I'll cover a long way anyway.
 
do I really have to split all my type annotations to several lines?
 
user1804599
If you want to document them then you have to do that.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I kinda like it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it makes it harded to add documentation to existing functions
wut fail
 
10:09 PM
great
no matter how many times I have to go through nights of diarrhea, I will never stop eating popcorn paired with coke
2
now I can't sleep
fuck this
 
@AlexM. don't become the next puppy
 
@StackedCrooked nah, it's probably just some sort of sensitivity thing
but it's invariable: if I eat popcorn and drink coke at the same time, my stomach goes crazy
 
so is irritable bowel syndrome
:)
 
yes but afaik puppy had issues no matter what he ate
 
10:12 PM
yeah
 
Coke has a laxative effect on me. I think it's the caffeine.
 
More likely it's the cocaine.
 
if it's the cocaine then the true reason is probably the fact that you're drinking coke way past its expiry date
 
It's only 70 years old.
 
I remember this video where a guy drank a 20 yo can of coke or something
and vomited minutes after
it was crystal pepsi, yeah
 
10:15 PM
omit the vomit
 
hm
I should probably divide the modules into "internal" and "external"
 
I use Internal/External tag types to enforce thread-safe access.
(Internal tag has private constructor.)
 
Not related to your module thingy.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked I use immutable objects.
 
user1804599
10:19 PM
And queues. Lots of queues.
 
Access to Internal is via dispatch queue. (You have to pass a functor which accepts the Internal object as param.)
 
BTW there's Hackage 2
 
I don't understand how I could achieve full immutability though.
 
apparently.
 
^ Die antwoord has a new song :D
 
user1804599
10:22 PM
Hee Belg waar ga jij op stemmen?
 
nog niet over nagedacht
 
user1804599
Filipe Lahiver van Wallonisch Belang
 
I'll do some midnight math, it goes well with bowel movements
 
There's 2 undeleted votes on that -43 PHP question. I guess they want to undelete it so it can be downvoted even further. :)
 
user1804599
10:28 PM
:D
 
"that -43 PHP question"
 
user1804599
Screenshot?
 
okeydokey.
added new defensive assertion -> now only 10 tests pass instead of 80 :(
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Opkomst was 35% in NL lol.
 
10:30 PM
 
Law requires us to vote. Not going is punishable in theory.
 
@StackedCrooked dafuq
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked and making a picture while voting results in a 3k euro fine. :v
 
What if you're disabled? Out of the country?
 
10:31 PM
Sounds reasonable.
 
user1804599
inb4 #stemfie4belgium
 
@Mysticial If you are out of the country then you have to give someone else official permission to vote in your place (there is a procedure for that). If you are disabled then you may get off with a doctor's note.
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel I don’t see why.
 
user1804599
It’s your own vote, so it’s your own business.
 
^ +1
 
10:32 PM
@Mysticial heh
 
@StackedCrooked Oh god. So if you left the country for good and are still a citizen, you'd never be able to go back because you'd get thrown in jail?
Sounds like Singapore.
 
@rightfold Here, you can be fined if you reveal how somebody else voted.
 
I have family friends who cannot return to Singapore because they'd immediately go to jail.
 
user1804599
If you don’t want to vote in Belgium just don’t fill in anything.
 
user1804599
Votes are anonymous anyway.
 
10:34 PM
@rightfold You have an incredibly libertarian view of things for an European.
 
user1804599
Or do they use computers for registering votes?
 
Are you sure you're not secretly American?
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Ah, right.
 
@Mysticial I've never heard of actual punishment. I once didn't vote (because I went to Japan and didn't bother to get the papers to allow another to vote in my place). I never heard anything about it.
 
@Mysticial This doesn't stop people from voting.
You can mail in your votes in America for example.
 
10:34 PM
@StackedCrooked ah
 
user1804599
No amount of votes are going to change the dictatorship of Europe anyway, so I could just as well not have voted at all. :v
 
I hear Singapore is a really dick about their military training.
 
"dictatorship of Europe" rrrright
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm telling ya he's American.
 
user1804599
Did I choose the European Commission? No.
 
10:35 PM
I have friends of family who left Singapore without doing their military training. They can never go back. Not even a connection.
 
Same thing in Korea.
 
I suppose military training is slightly different to submitting your vote.
 
@rightfold You're welcome to spoil your ballot if you wish.
 
Japan is different though. I've connected through Tokyo and they never even looked at my passport.
 
@DeadMG You can go to jail for that.
@rightfold That hardly makes it a dictatorship.
 
user1804599
10:37 PM
@DeadMG That makes sense, but your own vote wtf.
 
@rightfold You can reveal how you voted, just fine.
 
a guy from gamedev wasn't able to pick up his gamejam-won t-shirt because he had to go back to south korea and attend his military training
 
@rightfold That's like saying your current government is a dictatorship because you didn't vote for it.
 
Oh, Netflix will soon be available in Belgium.
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Indeed. You get a fine for that.
 
10:37 PM
@EtiennedeMartel this
@rightfold What? No, you don't.
 
user1804599
Okay, you go to jail. powned.tv/nieuws/raar/2014/05/…
 
That's taking photographs in the polling station.
That is not just "revealing how you voted".
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol "incredibly libertarian" because doesn't want to force people to vote?
 
Come on, you're a software developer: you should instinctively care about the difference.
 
user1804599
10:38 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It’s retarded you cannot do that.
 
Selfie in voting cabin. What a moronic thing to do.
 
@rightfold No, not really.
 
user1804599
Yes, really.
 
Right okay then dickface you know best
 
@BartoszKP I'm not just talking about that one. It's not the first time he takes a hard "I should be able to do what I want" stance.
 
user1804599
10:39 PM
It’s your own vote and you should be able to take as many photographs of it as you wish.
 
The problem is not about taking a photo of your ballot. It's about what you may catch on camera that is not your ballot.
come on this is fucking obvious don't be a moron
 
lol
@EtiennedeMartel ah, all right
 
user1804599
Uh, I don’t know what the cabins look like in your country.
 
Next up, Radek will be screaming "FREEEEDOOOOOM!" all over the place.
 
user1804599
But in the Netherlands you cannot see what other people are voting unless you are standing besides or above them.
 
10:40 PM
@rightfold Are yours sealed enclosures with blackout curtains and airtight seals?
 
Ok, Apple is going to open it's first Belgian app store here. (My town.)
 
All it takes is a few mirrors, mate.
Blanket rule, no cameras. What's the fucking problem?
Why in hell do you want to take a photo of your ballot paper anyway
 
to share on twitter obviously.
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That’s irrelevant.
 
@rightfold ...
I think it's time I stopped encouraging you with this nonsense
 
10:41 PM
@StackedCrooked yay~
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit to prove your interestingness
 
user1804599
Why would anyone want to walk circles on the street all day? Just forbid it already.
 
Captain Strawman's back! He's regenerated! And now looks like @rightfold!
 
user1804599
You cannot just forbid silly things because they are silly.
 
What
I already told you why it's forbidden you ignorant idiot
 
10:42 PM
Strawmen shouldn't walk in streets.
 
Tell you what, let's talk about this again when you've got a few more years on you, mmkay?
 
user1804599
In rightfoldtopia there would be no voting, because there would be nobody to vote for.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Lame.
 
@rightfold There would only be @rightfold to vote for, so nobody would vote at all
@StackedCrooked \o/
 
user1804599
No, because there are no politicians.
 
10:42 PM
Anarchy. Great.
 
user1804599
Everything is privatised.
 
Good luck with that
hahahaha
 
@StackedCrooked to be fair, equally lame to responding only to the last sentence of a bit more complex argument :0
 
There are a few towns here that have anarchy as their government.
 
3 mins ago, by Etienne de Martel
Next up, Radek will be screaming "FREEEEDOOOOOM!" all over the place.
 
10:43 PM
@BartoszKP you are also lame :P
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There is a constitution and it is enforced.
 
@Rapptz to "have anarchy as their government" is... an interesting turn of phrase!
@rightfold By whom?
 
@StackedCrooked probably :) but I wasn't referring to you
 
user1804599
By privatised police and privatised courts.
 
@rightfold They are appointed by whom? Overseen by whom?
 
10:44 PM
privatised police LOL heard this one once :DDDDD
 
user1804599
By the people, if they want it.
 
@BartoszKP oh. in that case you're cool :)
 
Where does the funding come from? Compulsory payments? That's TAX
 
user1804599
(If they don’t want it then yes there is indeed anarchy.)
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You're just taking a normal government and calling it "privatised" without actually understanding what that means
 
10:44 PM
@StackedCrooked probably :)
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The people, if they want to.
 
@rightfold "The people" So they vote? Who runs the election? Who manages it? Who oversees it?
What if only half of them want to?
 
privatised election company
 
The Trumbullplex is a housing collective and showspace in the Woodbridge neighborhood of Detroit, Michigan, USA. It was created in 1993 when members of the collective established a nonprofit corporation and purchased the property, two Victorian houses on either side of a single-story art space. The collective's mission statement asserts that they “want to create a positive environment for revolutionary change in which economic and social relationships are based on mutual aid and the absence of hierarchy.” The art space and infoshop are run on a donations-only basis, and members pay an e...
 
user1804599
They are not elected.
 
10:45 PM
Found it.
This place.
 
@rightfold What then?
 
John Locke had some good insights about this.
 
rightfold is re-inventing the development of human society. So far we've reached about 2000 BC but progress is occurring
There is a bloody good reason that we have centralised checks and balances. Large communities require them
Fuck, you're always bitching about how the Lounge needs more power for room owners, and there's only like 20 of us here
I'm sure it doesn't feel like an anarchy to the poor sods who come in here asking C++ questions
 
how do you input a tab character on windows?
 
I don't think the Lounge is a good analogy here.
 
10:48 PM
@Rapptz Press the tab key.
 
obviously
 
that'll change the focus
 
Depends where you're writing it.
 
The Lounge is an oligarchy.
 
I recall WS_TABSTOP.
 
10:49 PM
On the command line
 
In single-line textboxes it's generally not possible
 
in most GUIs it will change the focus
 
Or something like that. Man that was a blast to the past.
 
@Rapptz Copy/paste
 
I'm reading this question and it got me thinking
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Q: Python pass tab "\t" as argument

BoxuanI have the following Python script named test.py. The goal is to let Python recognize tab. How should I do that? import sys input = sys.argv[1] if __name__ == "__main__": print input == "\t" When I pass python test.py "\t" to the command line, why do I get a False? [Update] I changed t...

 
10:50 PM
@Rapptz Ctrl-v TAB (at least in bash)
 
That famous Bash for Windows
 
$'\t' also works in bash apparently
but there are no answers for Windows :v
 
That's because you can't do it in Windows
When I said copy/paste, I wasn't kidding
This is one of the reasons people cite for migrating to PowerShell
 
It wouldn't have been funny anyway :P
Cygwin has a very nice terminal.
Haven't tried powershell though.
 
10:53 PM
> I maintain my position that the only meaningful way to continue the discussion about horribleness of this answer is comparing it to an alternative, and enumerating advantages and disadvantages.
"If you can't show me something worse, then it's not bad"
 
wow
 
Spoken like a true rationalist.
We should all aim to become him.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yeah :(
 
That said, Arduino.
I don't know if you can avoid manual memory management there.
 
it comes with a string class
so you can for this case
I would love to rewrite it, but it has been 10 minutes now and I still don't have a clue about what this function is supposed to do. — Jefffrey 31 secs ago
sucks
read the question Jeffrey
I wish I lived in Canada or something.
 
10:58 PM
Regardless of the obvious dangers and pitfalls of using manual memory management, in this case, it's also noise, since it adds nothing of value to the answer and can at best confuse the reader. — Etienne de Martel 38 secs ago
I'm too confused.
 
@Rapptz Yessssssss
 
@Rapptz lollll
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm having health insurance problems.
:v
don't get the wrong idea bub
 
@Rapptz I can't say I know what you mean.
 
@EtiennedeMartel you just did!
 
10:59 PM
yeah yeah.
 

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