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10:00 PM
Why can't I use C++ with notepad?
 
Looks like the meta split isn't really going to happen until midnight UTC.
In about 2 hours.
 
I despise that statistics because it makes people think that what you said is true
 
@Rapptz you have data to back it up?
 
:15891036 it did work for me, on windows with cygwin pcre_grep
 
what meta split?
 
grep "somefunction(*.)" -r
 
@DeadMG Did you not see the banner?
 
that would imply that I visit meta to see it.
 
The banner on SO.
 
@Rapptz You're gonna have to present evidence.
 
10:01 PM
that would imply that I visit SO to see it.
 
git push | grep "help"
 
fucking...
 
What if they printed the banner on your drug jar?
 
Hard to find evidence when the only "statistic" they share is average wage.
 
10:01 PM
which is then misinterpreted to the conversation we're having now that men and women aren't paid equally.
 
@Rapptz Why the quotes?
 
because of the next sentence
bit jumpy there
 
Last time I checked, average is a valid statistic.
 
@DeadMG Stop sniffing people's butts and open your eyes. :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's meaningless here.
 
10:02 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, right, context.
 
@Mysticial The only thing I'm sniffing is amitriptyline.
which is the most wonderful shit ever invented.
I love digesting food so much.
nom nom, all the nutritional value and none of the horrible side effects.
I actually put weight on.
 
Why doesn't git push | grep "help" work!
 
@Rapptz Here are some data from Sweden, remember that in Sweden a man is seen as a woman with defects.
 
Am I really smart?
 
@caffinatedmonkey google it man
 
10:04 PM
@caffinatedmonkey No.
 
@JohanLarsson Do you happen to have an English version?
 
@cyberspace009 ROFL coming from you?
 
@Rapptz That said, what evidence would you accept?
 
my question was simple
 
"Hey guys, I'm too thick to figure out which of these two headers is what, by the way you should Google your own problems"?
 
user1804599
10:04 PM
@caffinatedmonkey because it prints to stderr, not stdout.
 
user1804599
Duh.
 
what's wrong? Too hard to answer one word?
 
nice.
 
@cyberspace009 couldn't find anything.
@rightfold ohhh. Thanks.
 
@EtiennedeMartel one that actually shows two people working the same exact job at the same exact company showing that the female makes less money than the male.
 
10:05 PM
@Rapptz That would be anecdotal, but sure.
 
why would it be anecdotal?
 
(You're setting me up for failure, aren't you?)
 
@EtiennedeMartel The plural of anecdote is data.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like that
 
@EtiennedeMartel One that doesn't confound the subject matter by just averaging everything.
 
10:06 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Could not find a translation. I trust the source of the document btw.
 
@DeadMG I wonder if the mood-enhancing purely comes from food-digesting capability or whether the tryciclic antidepressant is working as well.
 
pretty difficult to separate one from the other IYAM
 
@caffinatedmonkey hmmmm, git-scm.com/docs/git-grep
try it
 
Consider a population where all women do garbage collection, but men do both garbage collection and software development. Even if female garbage collectors are paid more than male garbage collectors, the average pay for all men will be inflated by the software developers and can end up higher than the average pay for all women. Those two average by themselves are meaningless.
 
alright, I need to get some food. brb
 
10:08 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Exactly.
 
I'd still argue that that constitutes a pay gap, since women clearly don't have the same opportunities as men.
 
Semantics.
 
it's not semantics at all
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sounds depressing. Women deserve equal pay as men.
 
you can't just give all the women really crappy jobs and then argue that it's economic equality.
 
10:09 PM
@cyberspace009 I don't need to grep code. I just need to look at the output of git push
 
the women got those jobs themselves
 
@DeadMG When you start redefining terms to suit your argument, it's nothing but semantics.
 
did they?
 
The OECD defines "pay gap", btw.
 
or did they not have an opportunity to get a software dev job?
 
10:10 PM
Stupid organizations having different letter orders in different languages.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm pretty sure that we did not agree a strict definition before beginning this conversation.
 
I have lots of female friends who I'm sure would be great in software development who tell me they're sure they'd suck at it. They never even considered getting in the field because nobody told them it was a possibility.
 
but just for reference, I'll happily call it a pay gap if women earn less money than men for any reason other than because they've explicitly chosen (statistically) to do so.
 
Education plays a big role in all that.
 
@caffinatedmonkey try this. Same documentation. Take your time reading them. git-scm.com/docs/git-push
 
10:11 PM
I agree that from a business point of view it makes very little sense to pay someone more just cos penis
 
and "We didn't get high-paying jobs because we didn't realize it was possible, therefore we earn less" definitely counts if it occurs statistically more for women than men.
 
user1804599
What about a woman with a penis?
 
lolwut
 
@rightfold not possible.
 
^ mwhahaha
 
user1804599
10:12 PM
Everything is possible these days.
 
@cyberspace009 rofl
 
But not many things makes sense in the industry.
 
wow drowsiness kicking in right now
 
@cyberspace009 There's this thing called "gender identity".
 
@rightfold I might as well get a wig and a pink dress.
 
10:13 PM
@DeadMG There will always be a pay gap then, because some jobs are more suited to one gender than others.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, in some sad he/she reality.
 
So, yeah, very useful.
 
user1804599
@cyberspace009 hot.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes They are?
like what?
 
@cyberspace009 What?
 
user1804599
10:13 PM
Male pornstar.
 
like taking out the trash
 
@EtiennedeMartel some people need to face the fact that they have a dick.
 
@cyberspace009 They do- by getting it surgically removed.
 
user1804599
some people need to face the fact that they are a dick.
 
@cyberspace009 It's not as simple, but I'm assuming you're simply one of those "What's good for me is good for everyone" types.
 
user1804599
10:14 PM
Well, time to sleep while you’re feeding trolls.
 
I won't spend time explaining how men and women don't have the same physical characteristics.
 
I'm currently using eclipse for C++. What do you guys use?
 
only a tiny minority of jobs are going to have that be even remotely relevant.
 
@StackedCrooked because you suck?
 
like, I dunno, be a soldier or something.
 
10:15 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Nope. I won't start a flame war over this topic. All my nopes. Nice try
 
@HamZa strawberry flavoured
 
@DeadMG lol
 
you don't need male muscle mass to be a software dev.
 
@DeadMG Statistics doesn't work that way.
You don't discard confounding factors just because.
 
@DeadMG Even then it doesn't matter because most killing is done with weapons that can be used just as well by men than by women.
 
10:16 PM
was expecting a trolling answer
Since it's not ontopic on SO. I did ask it here
 
no, but the suggested factor would only account for a tiny tiny pay gap.
given that the jobs that would genuinely be affected are uncommon and typically low-paid amongst both genders anyway.
 
@HamZa I use Vim for C++, eclipse for Java, VS2013 for C++ (with R# EAP); that's about it
 
thx
 
@sehe vim for c++? Well met.
 
Well I use Vim for everything
 
10:18 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I dunno, actual killing is as far as I'm aware a relatively small part of soldiering, and there's a lot of just marching around and shit. Anyway, it's not that I think that women wouldn't make fine soldiers, because I absolutely think that the biological advantage men have in such contexts is pretty much irrelevant in the modern world.
 
@DeadMG In the future people will kill each other with robots.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Gundams
 
Come to think of it, not even in the future. The US already uses drones.
 
it's more that I think that even if you suggest that every single front-line soldier absolutely had to be male, you could only account for a fractional pay gap with that.
 
And you don't need to be a man to pilot a drone.
 
user1804599
10:19 PM
@HamZa Emacs.
 
@rightfold Hipster.
 
because using the unreal engine is too mainstream
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Hipstest.
 
user1804599
I use Emacs for everything, including spreadsheets, email and video games.
 
@rightfold dwaas
 
user1804599
10:22 PM
Je bent zelf een dwaas, mongool.
 
user1804599
<3
 
lol
@rightfold btw, sometimes I think to insult someone with "mongool" is disrespectful to mongools.
 
user1804599
Krijg toch de tyfus, kankermongool.
 
user1804599
Well, time to really sleep now.
 
10:24 PM
And FWIW, averages are terrible indicators anyway.
 
@HamZa Does that refer to people from Mongolia?
 
in a sense that mongools are better than the insulted person
@EtiennedeMartel no, un "mongolien" en francais :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah but people love using them.
People also love misrepresenting them too.
 
The high end is going to be full of outliers and skew the values a lot.
 
@EtiennedeMartel nice vid.
 
user1804599
10:25 PM
Dutch profanity can be divided into several categories. Often, the words used in profanity by speakers of Dutch are based around various names for diseases. In many cases, these words have evolved into slang, and many euphemisms for diseases are in common use. Additionally, a substantial number of curse words in the Dutch language are references to sexual acts, genitalia, or bodily functions. Religious curse words also make up a considerable part of the Dutch profanity vocabulary. Aside from these categories, the Dutch language has many words that are only used for animals; these words are...
 
user1804599
Control+F “mongool”
 
Oh, wait.
Yeah, in Quebec we also have "mongol" for that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I agree that our current economic structure in the West makes massive inequality an entirely equal problem for practically everybody.
 
"Un esti de mongol"
 
who here is dutch?
 
10:25 PM
@DeadMG No, it's not that.
It's a sampling issue.
 
@EtiennedeMartel What does "esti" mean?
 
@HamZa "hostie".
 
@cyberspace009 you are?
 
user1804599
@cyberspace009 If you ain’t Dutch, you ain’t much.
 
(Well, it could be that too, but what makes the average a bad indicator is not that)
 
10:26 PM
@HamZa I'm not dutch. I' am American.
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Lekker, een hostie.
 
@cyberspace009 who isn't?
oh
 
@EtiennedeMartel give me a synonym in french plz
 
user1804599
sehe let’s go to Canal Parade together.
 
(Also, I don't agree with @Rapptz, but bad statistics is a pet peeve of mine)
 
10:28 PM
@HamZa Oh. It's a mild swear word.
 
It's okay. I couldn't care less if people agreed with me.
 
fortuitous :P
right, I'm really off to fucking bed now
drugs make puppy sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee‌​py
 
@Rapptz Unsurprising, otherwise you'd always be pissed.
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol I was thinking in french, dutch and english and couldn't come with an explanation
 
@rightfold is it true that the dutch language is similar to Sim language?
 
10:29 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Not really.
 
user1804599
I don’t know what Sim language is.
 
@rightfold It's made up nonsense. Like Dutch.
 
Though thinking about it, I'd be hard pressed if I knew anyone who agrees with me about anything in here.
 
@rightfold What is it
 
user1804599
Dutch best language.
 
user1804599
 
Sim () is a town in Ashinsky District of Chelyabinsk Oblast, Russia, located on the Sim River, west of Chelyabinsk. Population: History It was founded in 1759 as Simsky Zavod (, lit. Sim's Plant), a settlement around an ironworks. It was renamed Sim and granted town status on November 13, 1942. Notable people It is the birthplace of Igor Kurchatov, a famous Soviet/Russian physicist. References
 
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
 
@rightfold Woop woop.
@rightfold Please, it's like someone took English, shat on it, then added a bunch of Ks everywhere.
 
user1804599
@sehe We can also go to Dirty Dicks — Golden Shower Party!
 
10:31 PM
Maybe later, answering SO question now
 
user1804599
(Eww.)
 
user1804599
lol
 
@rightfold do you have a boyfriend?
 
user1804599
No. :[
 
user1804599
10:31 PM
And no girlfriend either. :[
 
user1804599
But I have a Haskell compiler!
 
@rightfold ever had one?
 
user1804599
No :D
 
@rightfold There's your problem.
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
user1804599
10:32 PM
@EtiennedeMartel haha
 
@HamZa He's like 14.
 
@rightfold same boat I guess, except that I don't have a haskell compiler :P
 
(Actually he's probably 19, but hey)
 
user1804599
What?
 
user1804599
Did you just say I’m 19?
 
10:33 PM
(Bad jokes are always a good choice!)
 
user1804599
Never expected that from you. :v
 
user1804599
Hey miserable bastards.
I’m _really_ going to sleep now.
Bye.
 
Well, I'm bored and feel like crap.
Time to do something productive.
 
@Rapptz So, not going on 4chan or Reddit?
 
It appears that in 2005, Canada had 100.1% pre-school enrolment rate among children aged 3-5 years.
France had 101.6% in 2009.
These numbers seem wrong.
 
10:43 PM
Indeed, no way France can be better than us.
 
..
 
Dropped out, joined another pre-school would count as two enrollments.
 
That seems terrible.
 
Dare I ask what the U.S. was?
 
US was new world
 
10:54 PM
why is clang++ --help so huge
You might have testicular cancer
 
nope. I'm cured
 
@sehe Right. I forgot :P
 
No problem. Glad to be of help
 
@EtiennedeMartel That goes against everything I ever believed in. Aaarghh!!
 
anyone have an idea what this is a reference to?
I first thought it's some sort of final fantasy reference but then she said it's a novel series with 100 volumes or something
 
11:06 PM
dunno
 
Any epic fantasy series?
It's not epic fantasy if the author finishes it before dying.
 
you like this type of game eh? where do you find those titles?
 
it's likely that it is a direct reference to something, the game has many of them
like "Medal of Duty"
@StackedCrooked I'm actually really softcore and only started playing them some months before
 
The Neverending Story () is a German fantasy novel by Michael Ende, first published in 1979. The standard English translation, by Ralph Manheim, was first published in 1983. The novel was later adapted into several films. The majority of the story takes place in the parallel world of Fantastica (Phantásien in the original German version), a world being destroyed by a mysterious force called the Nothing. The first protagonist is a young warrior who is asked by the Empress of Fantastica to set off and find a way to stop the Nothing; the other protagonist is a boy from the real world, a re...
 
I found this one on Steam
 
11:08 PM
This, maybe?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that was my first thought
 
(I love that the author's surname is "Ende")
 
posted on April 16, 2014 by Artur Laksberg

Only a few years ago, writing parallel code in C++ was a domain of the experts. Nowadays, this field is becoming more and more accessible to regular developers thanks to the advances in libraries, such as the PPL and C++ AMP from Microsoft, Intel's Threading...(read more)

 
No, @Feeds, it's not a reference to that.
 
11:09 PM
this is another direct reference
but at least I know this one
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is a lie.
Because it does end.
(Or maybe it's meta)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes unless I can't find something better, I'll go with that
 
@AlexM. that one is obvious :)
 
yup
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Look at this.
 
11:12 PM
Eww, why?
 
It looks soooo good.
 
Jun 21 '12 at 16:32, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Oh, and cephalopods freak me out too.
 
Also, grilled food. I figured, you know, since you're Portuguese and all...
Also also, TIL this exists.
 
Cherry Tree High Comedy Club is an adventure game developed by the Dōjin circle 773 and published by Capcom. The game follows 17-year-old Miley Verisse as she recruits fellow students for her comedy club. The player controls Miley as she meets new people, tries to finish her homework each day, and levels up her conversation topics. The game was released in the United States on November 8, 2012, with an English translation produced by Nyu Media. The game is rated 12 by PEGI, and T by the ESRB. References Further reading * * * External links [http://cherrytreehigh.com/ Cherry Tree...
I found it to be a bit annoying because you have a limit on time, and the game is really complex
you are unable to get it completely right on the first try because when the timeup is drawing near you just start grinding on stats right away
once you have an idea about what can be done and when, you can do a perfect run
 
11:23 PM
timup sucks
 
yup
 
Who else just downvotes lightness on site? — Ben 4 hours ago
 
damn straight
 
That comment thread is probably gonna get nuked.
 
11:36 PM
my balls are moist for yu.
 
It's past 20 - enough for the auto-flag.
 
@Mysticial Can't even be bothered to screencap it (mostly because that requires opening all the comment blocks first). It's full of morons. Alf was kind enough to tactical upvote me, although I disagree with such behaviour and he later tactically undid his tactical upvoting. Strange people.
TIL Canada has a legal charge of "mischief in relation to data"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Uh. How interesting.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's a funny phrase don't be a dick
 
Anyway. Ontario.
 
That Virgin Media logo looks like the Visual Studio one.
 
In amongst the inevitable stories of families who are "shocked" that their loved one — in this case, a fallen marathon runner from Sunday — will no longer be a part of their "lives and laughter". Nobody seems to actually care that he won't be able to do all the things he still wanted to do, and to live another forty years. No, all they care about is their loss.
"I'm sorry for your loss" is such a fucked-up knee-jerk phrase that we use. What about the loss of the dead person? That's so much more profound.
 
Dead people can't feel. They can't lose anything anymore.
It's better that we spend our time helping those who still need help because they're still alive.
 
yet, the dead can leave earth and explore space. Why?
Fuck earth. that's why.
 
you tell 'em
 
11:47 PM
"I know it's off-topic, but..."
@EtiennedeMartel They lost everything. Because they can't feel any more...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ask....
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What's important isn't what's lost. What's important is what's left.
 
It shows a certain amount of selfishness I think when people say "I can't believe he's not in our lives any more". They should be saying "I can't believe he can't live his life any more". People are inherently selfish. That's my point.
 
going to try some Samichlaus Classic beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/285/776
 
@cyberspace009 lol..?
 
11:49 PM
they brought some in at the local supermarket
hopefully it won't put me to sleep too fast
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ask
 
@AlexM. Looks tasty.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit don't mind me im drunk and programming
 
@AlexM. 14% ABV? Oh yes it will.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I tried Samichlaus Helles before but it's very different from this one in terms of taste; definitely tasty (both of them)
I think this one is better though
 
11:50 PM
@cyberspace009 ok
@EtiennedeMartel Lightweight Canadian
 
@EtiennedeMartel haha yeah it's the strongest beer available here
 
@AlexM. I'm drinking heiniken
 
even stronger than Delirium Tremens
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's an oxymoron.
 
was about to link this boost spirit question to @sehe, then scrolled down and found the only answer is already by him. duh.
 
11:51 PM
@AlexM. I know that beer. It's pretty good.
@cyberspace009 You mean Dutch piss.
 
@EtiennedeMartel "that must be a moron" #ftfy
 
@EtiennedeMartel haven't tried it yet; I have to order it via an online shop to get one
 
@EtiennedeMartel dutch piss....not bad.
 
It's still piss.
 
i mean srsly you guys migrated hockey to sheets of ice because you cba to walk or run. c'mon
 
11:51 PM
it will hydrate me.
bear grylls is always right.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's not very much about spirit though. It's about extracting arbitrary groups of bits from a bitstream. Hairy stuff
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know cold is a difficult concept to understand for those who live in the warm weathers of Europe, but ice isn't the kind of shit that stops existing just because you don't like it.
 
Heineken is among those beers that I buy when there's nothing new to try and I just want something cold while playing games... but even so, it's on the list after Grolsch, Stella and the local schwarzbier Ursus Black ratebeer.com/beer/ursus-black/42118
I love the taste of burnt wood Ursus Black has
 
@AlexM. Stella is also piss.
 
I think it's fine
but as they say
de gustibus non est disputandum
 
11:54 PM
@AlexM. hmmm, burnt wood taste...
 
god, Samichlaus sure feels strong
 
@David std::function is part of TR1. And yes, the macro is still unneeded even without, as my answer shows - Live On Coliru (pure c++03, no TR1). — sehe 2 mins ago
 
Samichlaus Helles has the same alcohol content but the strong cognac taste kinda covers it a bit
this one has a clearer taste and you definitely feel it burning
 
@sehe ohai #lurker
 
u2 you too
 
11:56 PM
@EtiennedeMartel yes because the ice that "forms" inside hockey stadia is naturally occuring
you just built the stands and seats around it, right?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That said, ice hockey is faster than non-ice hockey. More speed, more entertainment.
 
More speed, harder checking.
 
@EtiennedeMartel speeeeeeeed powahhhhhhh acctiionnnnn effecccctssss you guys are just Yanks in disguise, honestly
whatever happened to subtlety, nuance and art?
 
> "on site"
no less
 
11:57 PM
@sehe I loved Alf's suggestion that he'd meant "cite". Like, what?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yanks like baseball and handegg, two sports that are slow as fuck.
 
@EtiennedeMartel +1 for "handegg"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ROFL
 
wait, WTF. <thread> is only for c++11? No......
 
@cyberspace009 rock.remove();
 
11:58 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit exception on line 16.
seriously, wtf.
 
@cyberspace009 ?!? c++ isn't PHP
 
catch (stupid_exception& e)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit catch (stupid_exception const&) {} // FTFY
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You should know that we are quite good at the subtle art of setting cars on fire when the Canadiens get kicked out of the playoffs.
 

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