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5:00 AM
I wish I had a good note taking tool
I've never found a program that feels as comfy as just taking notes on paper though
 
you never will
 
I was supposed to hunt a GCC shortcoming ._.
 
@LucDanton I see templates. :/
 
well spotted
 
could you explain the rest of the syntax?
 
5:10 AM
ex2 is a not-so-empty struct hth
main is an advanced topic so I won’t touch it
 
@LucDanton ;)
TIL about parameter packs.
 
@Mysticial you suck
640kB oughta be enough for anyone
 
@HubertApplebaum 64GB of ram is really cheap nowadays.
 
wot
 
I never run out of ram with my 16 GB
Perhaps you should stop storing Pi in ASCII
 
5:24 AM
@HubertApplebaum Then you're not using it right.
 
Omg Mysticial joining the mansplain club now
 
^^ That's a hella lot less than what I paid for my 64GB. Granted, it's almost a year and half later. But that's just how it goes.
 
Not everyone is a rich Morgan Stanley employee
you capitalist scum
 
5:26 AM
Even cheaper if you go 8 sticks: newegg.com/Product/…
That's a fucking steal.
 
it's still not dropping as fast as a couple years back
 
I wonder if you can short-sell memory.
 
let me fact-check that
yes it seems it has reached a plateau
 
Every time a new memory module size comes out, you take a short position. Wait 2 years, flip your position to long. And sell it off 5 years later overpriced to people needing replacement parts.
 
I don't think there are options on RAM, Mysticial
and anyway everyone would take the same positions
 
5:29 AM
you suck McBain
 
no compliments
 
user406009
@Mysticial I really wonder sometimes how the electronics retailers stay in business. Especially the ones with physical stores. Their stock loses value every day.
 
so does almost everything
 
user406009
Well, perishable goods like food also lose value, but you can usually get quick turnaround because people are constantly buying food.
 
buy entropy, you’ll never run out
 
user406009
5:32 AM
I highly doubt other junk like office supplies, clothing, tools, etc, etc loses value all that quickly, if at all.
 
yet they do
cars also
p much everything
those that gain value over time are the exception, not the norm
1:30 PM Cicada said: my real name is Robert but I think that's no longer a secret by now
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1:30 PM jaggedSpire said: @Cicada  I don't believe you
well I tried
 
@HubertApplebaum You misspelled that. 640 TB is enough for (almost) anybody (this week).
 
@HubertApplebaum Won't work, because every short position must be offset by a long position somewhere else.
The reverse isn't true though.
 
@Lalaland They keep only minimal stock on hand. Retailers measure the health of a store in "turns", which is the number of times a year they turn over the entire value of their inventory (e.g., $1 million in inventory, and $4 million/year in sales is 4 turns). Much less than 3 turns and you're probably going out of business. 3 to 4 is sustainable, but not very profitable. 4+ turns is where you start to get reasonable profitable.
 
@Mysticial Do you really think anyone would be dumb enough to take the opposite positions is what I meant
 
5:39 AM
I managed to better isolate yesterday’s behaviour
using the alias makes GCC happy
 
The other part of the equation is steep markups on small items--phone chargers they sell for $20 or so probably have a wholesale cost around $2 to $3 or so (and even less than that wouldn't particularly surprise me).
 
@HubertApplebaum I think the real problem with short-selling memory is getting someone to loan you the commodity so you can sell it out.
 
in fact, if the overload with the alias is instantiated first then the non-alias overload complies (which makes sense, since now all the instantiated specializations can be re-used)
 
RAM is not a quoted commodity to begin with
 
wait it wasn’t a joke
 
5:41 AM
which part
 
bring back McBain
 
no Mysticial is always serious
no 2nd degree allowed
are you new
 
almost always semi-new
 
A term coined by Hendrik Springhödlt
don't tell me this is a real person because I just made the name up
surprising I know
 
there are Hödlts around (also Höldts, I was curious), but not so many Springhödlts it looks like
 
5:47 AM
patent pending
 
??? if I reverse the order of constructor calls it still triggers the error
so much for reuse of instantiations
 
@HubertApplebaum I'm not sure it needs to be quoted. Ram can certainly be traded. Though I'm unsure exactly how short-selling laws apply (if at all) to these things.
 
You need a market
 
Probably differs by jurisdiction.
 
There is no market on random access RAM memory
 
5:51 AM
yeah it’s dead tech
 
That's a load of bullshit and you know it. :)
 
My question is
 
I'll buy your RAM for $4
 
How are you going to do it
Are you going to buy RAM over the counter
Or what
Like hello dear Hynix I would like 5 pounds of RAM
 
5:52 AM
@LucDanton You scared me for a sec
 
@HubertApplebaum You don't buy RAM by the pound, idiot! They're metric, so you buy it by the kilogram.
 
i.e. 1024g
 
@JerryCoffin If you invest in Ram futures, they'll probably come in tones.
So if you don't exit your position by the expiration date, you either get or owe a lot of ram.
 
these $4 aren't going to spend themselves Mysticial
 
5:55 AM
@Mysticial And who's gonna sell you that future
There is no market
 
@Mysticial Tones? Really? How much is a C-sharp of RAM?
 
mysticial pls
 
I have to admit I've never been so confused in a while lol
 
mysticial is being confused on how derivatives work
 
@HubertApplebaum Ram manufacturers that want to hedge the price of ram.
 
5:56 AM
@Rapptz a RAM is also a large rodent-like mammal
 
are we starting a black market on RAM
 
@LucDanton un animal aquatique nocturne vous dites ?
 
I don't wanna get arrested friend-os
 
pretend ignorance. It's what I'm doing :3
 
@Mysticial okay
30 mins ago, by Mysticial
Every time a new memory module size comes out, you take a short position. Wait 2 years, flip your position to long. And sell it off 5 years later overpriced to people needing replacement parts.
So 1 future per module model is what you mean?
 
5:58 AM
@HubertApplebaum je connaissais pas
 
@ThePhD would argue that no one in their right minds would interpret the Catface as innocence, but by and large people in their right minds haven't met me yet
 
@LucDanton Il faut
 
c’est bien ?
 
c'est du non-sens
 
je vous crois
 
5:59 AM
lol
 
insert french here
 
@Rapptz don’t mind if I do
 
2lewd
 
> Et pourtant...le nazisme et le socialisme... c'est la même idéologie! Le socialisme allemand s'est, en effet, plus montré internationaliste que nationaliste.
le quoi
internet pls
 
has anyone here worked with bitcoin before ?
as in it's software
 
6:09 AM
huh looks like I imagined the alias vs non-alias difference, unless I misplaced it somewhere
 
@caps just. Wat. Of course it isn't. Like said., wchar_t is an integral type and std::string is a container
 
i am currently working on a bitcoin mining technology but am struggling to understand how exactly it's software fully function, i have a basic understanding of it after reading through the bitcoin cores code, i just don't want to have to read every single file if someone else has the knowledge and is willing to help me understand.
 
a badlet of a container
 
protip: don't go to Michigan
 
6:12 AM
@jaggedSpire My rule is never to go to USA, ever.
 
@wilx that is a rule I am presently breaking
 
I love some things coming out of that country but I will never touch its soil, ever.
 
and will be for the forseeable future
 
@jaggedSpire Well, you probably love adrenalin sports, too.
 
what if I send you a jar of dirt
 
6:13 AM
i live in the usa but am planing on moving to japan soon
 
@jaggedSpire Haha. :D Well, you could, if it is not illegal! :)
 
@wilx nah, the adrenalin wears off after a bit
@wilx probably depends where you live. Places with fragile ecosystems usually ban imported dirt, after all
 
@jaggedSpire Prague, the Czech Republic.
 
anywho, I came into this chat to wish you all a merry good night and also because my std::string-bashing opportunity sense was tingling
 
My rule is to avoid going to the countries in which I can not speak native languages of ... Coz I feel dumb not being able to speak their languages ...
 
6:15 AM
@wilx nice
 
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper i agree with that plus it would be awkward if you are planning to live there, if you are just visiting it is ok not to speak the language fluently.
 
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper That is too limiting.
 
night friends
 
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper Also, you could get a local guide who speaks English. Problem solved! :)
 
> internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
 
6:21 AM
@LucDanton give more details, Segmentation faults are usually cause by program trying to read or write an illegally memory location.
 
@wilx stupid article
 
@daniel lol
 
anti-sodomy acts are unconstitutional and the reason why it's "in tact" is because lawyers/politicians are too lazy to change the law when they know for a fact that most people won't contest it
 
@LucDanton always the need to feel special huh
 
6:23 AM
because if they do decide to bring up the anti-sodomy laws then it'll just get thrown out because the federal law makes it invalid
but yeah huffpost is gr8 news quality
almost as bad as daily mail
 
also gotta love when someone mansplains luc
moar popcoarn
 
@HubertApplebaum anybody can build an unreleased build of GCC and throw code at experimental features
 
I've caused ICEs in gcc
am I cool yet guys
 
@LucDanton I can throw code at the garbage bin
 
it was the C compiler
 
6:24 AM
@Rapptz well, semi-cool
 
Last time I ICEd gcc was like 2 years ago with lambdas
 
anyways if anyone has experience working with bitcoins in c++ let me know i could use the help (=
 
decent but meh
@daniel what does that even mean
 
no one uses or likes bitcoins here
so wrong room
    uint32_t c;
    algo.member("color", c);
    r.colour = colour(c);
 
@HubertApplebaum unusual as in it’s the compiler expiring and not the compiled program
 
6:25 AM
makeshift solutions
 
@Rapptz it’s not bidi anymore though
 
the other direction is algo.member("color", r.colour.pack())
 
algo.member("color", c);
r.colour = colour(c);
> color
> colour
what is consistency
 
horrour
 
yeah the JSON has color but I spell it colour
fight me
it's not my JSON
 
6:26 AM
throws first
nice excuse
 
@HubertApplebaum i am creating a bitcoin mining software like a bitcoin mining pool but trying to utilize parallel computing using MPI.
 
lol
you're late by like 4 years mebby
give up
 
@HubertApplebaum ?, late for what a payday, i dont need it, i am just doing for experimental purposes, plus to give others a free opensource program to use that works cross platform, unlike most mining software's out right now
 
okay if you don't intend to profit from it then sure
 
and even if someone did want to profit, bit coin is still worth 370.50 usd right now so theoretically someone could still profit from the software.
 
6:31 AM
k that’s a bug I’ve already filed
 
gj luc
 
@Rapptz yer jealous of my street cred
 
we need a nobel prize for Most GCC Bugs Filed This Year
 
pls stop
oh hey I stumbled back into the alias/non-alias difference
 
6:50 AM
guh I need a break I’m all over the place
 
@jaggedSpire This is a very correct argument.
 
@LucDanton play gaems
 
eh will go buy foods soon
reading about PoE for that Ascendancy hype
 
> Best C++ GUI Compiler
 
Kek.
 
7:03 AM
> Il navigue sur des sites internationaux, comme Anonymous, mais il ne nuirait à personne
my god
TIL Anonymous is a website (international, even)
 
ou alors la personne est comparée et contrastée à Anonymous qui eux aussi naviguent sur les sites internationaux, mais nuisent aux gens
 
hey je fais du mieux que je peux avec un contexte incomplet
 
dans ce cas tu mets pas la subordonnée à cet endroit
 
tu sais où tu peux te la mettre la subordonnée
 
7:06 AM
Ou alors tu mets des parenthèses
ah non on est pas en prolog
rip
> Données personnelles : le virulent réquisitoire de la CNIL contre Facebook
it's that season again
la fourmi pépiant à l'oreille de l'éléphant
 
J'suis pas assigné à résidence mashallah
 
> We notice you're using an ad-blocker. Perhaps you'll support us another way?
Ooooooh you noticed
 
Uguuu, site-senpai noticed me.
 
Thanks for sticking those massive ads in my face yes I would LOVE to support you another way for example by sticking my massive genitals in your revenue stream
 
7:23 AM
time to load up on junk food
 
@HubertApplebaum Sounds like a great idea
 
I have unwrap for unwrapping reference wrappers,
deref for derefencing various kinds of pointers
What should I call the &/address of operation?
address ?
 
addressof
 
Kinda already hogged by the std::
And it doesn't quite do the same thing.
 
addressof_but_not_the_std_one
 
7:26 AM
address it is!
 
bikeshed
 
@ElimGarak He posted that way earlier.
 
@HubertApplebaum Any delightful anecdote about your awesome flatmate?
 
7:36 AM
AMD uses this as an input image for OpenCL processing demos:
its quite nice
 
Yeah, it has interesting features, especially for stuff like coherence-enhancing filtering.
 
@Rerito he's cool
 
Oh you left the nutjob one?
 
Didn't I tell you?
It was a film scene
 
Press for 200% more deets
press
 
7:45 AM
Ended up unlocking my room when I was still in bed, taking my stuff and throwing it in the corridor
Then caught me by the waist and tried to push me out of the flat
surrealistic
"I CALLED THE POLICE THEY ARE COMING" she was screaming at me
etc
 
@HubertApplebaum Hubert loads his gun and fires blanks
 
Bby, you have the worst roommates
 
current one is fine
that lady was mental
 
ok
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Yep. I thought you were calling it "partial specialisation overload" for a particular reason.
 
7:51 AM
sehe is reporting in for another fine Tuesday at the office.
 
@HubertApplebaum There's no other explanation, I don't even get why she acts like that
 
@ElimGarak No Tuesday filled with SQL is a fine day.
Speaking of, help I can't sleep and I have serious work to do tomorrow.
 
You've come to the right man for help on the subject of sleeping.
 
@ThePhD it might be that constant thinking that you have serious work to do tomorrow is what troubles you when trying to get sleep
 
Also BIKESHED
We are allowing classes in lua to support arity-based overloading.
e.g.
myobj:func( 1 ) // calls 1-argument C++ func
myobj:func( 1, 2 ) // calls 2-argument C++ func
myobj:func( 1, 2, 3 ) // calls 3-argument C++ func
Should we support his at the regular top-level?
e.g.
some_freefunc( 1 )
some_freefunc( 1, 2 )
 
7:55 AM
@Rerito yep
@ThePhD I don't see why not?
 
R I P this being ezpz
@HubertApplebaum Just remember that this is your fault.
 
Is it just me or people massively take public transport when it's raining?
So crowded this morning (even at less than 7)
 
well yeah, who wants to walk in the rain?
 
@ThePhD victory
that being said you don't have to do it now
go sleep and do it eventually
 
@thecoshman Instead of taking the car I mean
 
8:15 AM
@HubertApplebaum they’ll get you next time
 
oh this again
 
@HubertApplebaum so it’s incorrect then
 
is it like yet another make replacement
 
8:20 AM
interpreting vague answer as yes
 
Sep 10 '15 at 5:35, by Anastasiya Asadullayeva
have you guis seen this build system by gargle
deja vu
 
> build heavy-duty, mission-critical infrastructure services
M I S S I O N C R I T I C A L
 
> deps = [":greeter"],
symbols inside a string
 
Oh god. It's starting to feel like a responsibility now.
 
lol
 
8:26 AM
^ is pretty nice
 
@Rapptz lmao lead reaching your central nervous system @Hubert
 
lol and prismatic replying with exactly the same thing as rapptz
must schedule same scenario in a couple months from now
note however how nobody replied
anyway scheduled for april 17
 
lmao
no one cares about bazel obv
I like my ninja python shit
:')
 
literally garbage
 
19 better bc tuesday
btw Outlook Calendar lets me pick my location either from "New York" or "Hong Kong, Asia"
thanks
 
8:31 AM
it’s because it’s 12h apart and it can’t tell where you are due to superior American 12-hour clock
 
why would it parse time as 12h clock?
seems WEIRD
 
my explanation makes sense, think about it
 
does america not have the concept of morning and afternoon?
 
look what you've done
 
they use the old names for seasons too. :/
 
8:33 AM
are you satisfied now luc
 
@Rapptz one day you will reach my level of shitposting
 
@Rapptz I'm not confused... just racist
 
context: Americans not adhering to concepts such as naming conventions that the rest of the english speaking world uses.
 
What "old names for seasons"
 
@CatPlusPlus ie: fall.
 
8:36 AM
AmE uses different words for many things that is not new
And so does every other dialect
It's not a "convention" it's literally a different version of the language
 
@CatPlusPlus yes.
I just had a pedantic fall-through.
 
Fall is not a thing only in America.
Canada does it too.
And we call it Autumn or Fall.
It's not pedantic, it's silly.
 
>current year
>caring about anything US
 
> Use templight and Templar to debug C++ templates (baptiste-wicht.com)
 
speaking of US time to fuel my cancer with more HN
 
8:40 AM
HN?
 
@HubertApplebaum it will kill you
 
@HubertApplebaum HomeNork
 
wow this UI is disgusting
lol
 
user1804599
Curious: this shopping list app fails when I insert an item that contains a single quote.
 
oh it's a patched version of clang
 
user1804599
8:41 AM
@Prismatic You probably mean you can delete the pointee.
 
@Rapptz what isn’t
 
@LucDanton cl.exe :')
 
clang-templates
 
Will be soon enough
 
@Rapptz not nearly enough screenshots
 
8:44 AM
@LucDanton how many shades of blue do you want
 
well, for one I would like to see the source code in the pane that’s described as 'this is where the source code goes'
 
@sehe can you check your zoom level on discord
 
stackoverflow.com/a/35287291/85371 lol Awesome non-answer (10k+)
 
ie reset it to 0
 
8:45 AM
@HubertApplebaum Why?
 
because I can repro the bug consistently by zooming
and fixing it by ctrl+0
 
Me too. Someone upgrade me eye-sight pls
And then we can fix the other issues
See. That's 100% zoom. Who can read that shit
 
I'm working on a library that extends something using the Json license, The Json license is identical to MIT license, except it has this extra line "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil." .. what does that mean?! who wrote that license, Gandalf
 
Ven
Hi lounge
 
@KhaledKhnifer Douglas Cockford
 
8:51 AM
heyo
 
Hiiyo.
 
Ven
Gandalf Cockford.
 
@Rerito you can't use terms like "good" or "evil" in a court room, those terms are relative
 
of course you can
 
@sehe us youngsters
 
Ven
8:52 AM
Why does nobody ever mention how close "sjw" is to "jew"?
or maybe "super jew"
 
@Ven Complot sionniste #Soral2017
 
Ven
@Rerito #alainralso
 
@Ven :tinfoil:
 
@Ven sp00ky
 
@LucDanton how can I know if I'm using it for good or evil
 
8:54 AM
@KhaledKhnifer I don’t know, ask a lawyer
 
Ven
sp00ky unstarry.
 
@sehe I don't know. The only solution I have is using e.g. discord-linux which allows you to inject custom css to raise the font size. I'm not sure if that'd fix anything though since I don't use it.
 
> The prosecutor described Eichmann as evil […]
@KhaledKhnifer don’t be a nazi, I can say as much
 
@HubertApplebaum nice
 
8:57 AM
@HubertApplebaum I don’t recall spending the 10s of my life it took to read that, 8/10 well spent
 
I don't even feel like opening the article
 
Ven
Why'd you open the article. You know its contents.
 

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