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7:01 PM
@Puppy Insert self into oven
 
Ok, the new version of the proposal is ready for Jacksonville.
 
@Morwenn you're proposing cppsort for standardization? :)
 
@melak47 Of course not.
 
don't want your beautiful library butchered by the committee? :D
 
Yeah right :D
No, it's far too specific and would only waste committee time and standard library implementers time.
Also compiler writers time if they want to make it work with MSVC.
 
7:13 PM
@melak47 @Griwes made an implementation, and I have an implementation as well, though I kind of straight up ignore noexcept and all of its complexities.
 
I don't think I'd count it as wasted time if it made them fix MSVC :p
 
Right.
 
@melak47 The way I file bugs against VC++ is basically compiling libraries out in the wild that I know work and then reducing and filing bugs.
 
I just file them when a library I want to use doesn't work :v
 
Anyway, even though the proposal is linked to my work on cpp-sort, it's far simpler: allow std::sort, std::stable_sort and std::inplace_merge to work with forward and bidirectional iterators.
 
7:15 PM
Alright boys. I have a problem.
Well, more of an odd anomaly in a program.
 
@ThePhD I was looking for his implementation:
Nov 17 '15 at 21:47, by OmnipotentEntity
@Morwenn I'm implementing std::variant in std::experimental and sending it to gcc.
 
@melak47 Wonder if he ever got around to it.
 
well he had something, but then he missed the deadline for GCC 5 or something
so I dunno if he finished it :(
 
Oh yeah, I remember that guy.
 
user1804599
Hello!
 
7:22 PM
So J.Wakely comes in and suggests using &str.front() instead of the &*str.begin() so I feel compelled to google if front() is 11 or earlier. I found the google images results for string.front() interesting. If you are at work, use your imagination. I still don't know anything more about string.front().
 
user1804599
template<typename T>
decltype(auto) front(T&& x) {
    return *adl::begin(x);
}
 
user1804599
Now it exists on all ranges.
 
@MadameElyse The &* trick has worked since 1994, so there's that.
 
Well, std::string is required to use contiguous storage only since C++11.
 
Maybe this giraffe is just getting old.
 
7:25 PM
And yeah std::string::front is indeed C++11.
 
user406009
std::numeric_limits<double>::infinity() * 0.0 = -nan
 
user406009
Well fuck you too, C++.
 
@Morwenn Yesterdays "the only thing reasonable" is now stated as required. The &*it trick was always iffy.
 
Yep.
@Lalaland Lol, what did you expect?
 
user406009
Zero.
 
user1804599
7:28 PM
Why?
 
@Lalaland Good for you C++.
 
user1804599
Infinity times zero makes no sense.
 
user1804599
It should throw an exception.
 
@MadameElyse That would be a first.
 
user1804599
Well, ideally, neither infinity nor nan would be part of all floats.
 
Ven
7:29 PM
hi too, lounge
@MadameElyse it's "undefined" in math, right?
 
user1804599
And a multiplication involving a possibly infinite value and a possibly zero value would either not compile or return optional<T>.
 
user406009
Anything times zero is zero. Also, float infinity indicates "bigger than float range" more than actual infinity.
 
Ven
now now, don't throw us into dependent types.
 
user1804599
@Ven yeah something like that
 
Ell
@Ven meh it depends I think
 
user1804599
7:30 PM
@Lalaland Anything times infinity is infinity.
 
Ven
@Lalaland I remember my math teacher telling me explicitly this wasn't true in math for infinity
 
user1804599
CONTRADICTION
 
Ven
but my memory is shit.
 
@MadameElyse You need to argue that with the math guys that designed the float/double stuff standard.
 
user1804599
No, I don't.
 
7:30 PM
@MadameElyse Never really grokked limits in math class.
 
user406009
Whatever, I'll just add a special case.
 
user1804599
Nooo
 
user406009
if (other_term is infinity) { do the right thing }
 
user1804599
wrap float to never allow infinity and nan.
 
user1804599
7:31 PM
Much easier.
 
user1804599
Also prevents many many bugs.
 
@MadameElyse unless 0 == infinity!
problem solved :p
 
user1804599
00 ≈ ∞
 
Ven
so apparently, Infinity*0 is zero in measure theory.
i'm not in measure theory
@Lalaland that's only true for numbers
 
user1804599
Sometimes it's useful to define division by zero in a narrow scope.
 
user1804599
7:33 PM
E.g. it can make x*y = x/(1/y) for all x and y.
 
Ven
just like "a*b" to mean "a+a+a... b times" holds for natural numbers. infinity isn't one
 
zero is an illusion
 
user1804599
Infinity isn't a number at all. :p
 
It shouldn't exist
 
nullptr.5f
 
Ven
7:34 PM
@Shoe we'd be so fucked.
 
In a good way
 
user1804599
Computers would use 1 and 2.
 
arrays would start at 2 in some languages :p
 
@melak47 I have started arrays at 2 in pascal.
 
Pascal's arrays with ranges were great
 
user1804599
7:36 PM
 
var population_count : array[1940..2040] of integer;
 
@MadameElyse $[ = 2; o.O
 
... Lol, wut.
 
user1804599
$[ is the array base index variable.
 
> global
 
7:37 PM
What happens if you modify that from multiple threads?
 
yeah let's break every other function in existence
 
You go to hell
 
user1804599
@ThePhD Threads are completely isolated from one another in Perl, and nobody installs Perl with threads enabled, since threads in Perl are horribly broken.
 
user1804599
The sole reason threads were introduced in Perl was to emulate fork on Windows.
 
user1804599
Nobody uses them.
 
7:39 PM
Perl is the Rainman of coding, don't question it's methods.
 
Don't tell me what to do
 
Ven
except in Perl 6, where the concurrency stuff is pretty good
 
user1804599
No, it doesn't use green threads.
 
user1804599
It's terrible.
 
user1804599
Good job. You are not illiterate!
 
7:41 PM
fun fact: "concurrency" in Polish is "współbieżność", but "konkurencja" is "competition"
 
user1804599
Same in Dutch; "concurrentie" means competition.
 
"współbieżność" I am going to need a flow chart explaining on how to pronounce that.
 
user1804599
Concurrency would be "samenloop".
 
Where's the "stop being sick" button in Jefffrey 1.0?
 
right under the fourth f
 
7:43 PM
@Shoe Replaced by a .308-activated mechanism at the base of its skull
 
@milleniumbug Same in many germanic languages. Swedish has konkurrens as competition.
 
user1804599
"Competitie" in Dutch would be something like a football match.
 
Found it. "Movement > Go to... > Doctor"
 
user1804599
ITT Shoe is doing a robot.
 
7:44 PM
@MadameElyse No need for a wrapper. Just enable the invalid operation exception (e.g., fesetexceptflag(FE_INVALID);).
 
@ElimGarak I believe they just licensed it. I looked at the package they provide, and the CryEngine does not look to be provided.
 
user1804599
lol, I just realised
 
user1804599
Steve Jobs did a Robot.
 
user1804599
He didn't want to see a proper doctor.
 
@ElimGarak For me, it is just another stunt in attempting to get game developers to make games on their plataform, but unless you are making the next DotA, or Heroes of Storm, I see not much an use.
 
7:46 PM
@MadameElyse That's one of the most non-lol'y things I've seen in a while.
 
@Nican Found the video of a person who says it, youtu.be/ioSHYVa76Qk?t=33s "ta współbieżność" :D
 
user1804599
@CaptainGiraffe That's one of the things I've given the fewest shits about in a while.
 
@milleniumbug translate.google.com/#auto/en/… And click on the "speak" icon, also works. x3
 
dat accent on the last syllabe though
 
CryEngine has a subscription model (and additional stipulations for access to source code, full licensing), so Amazon can't offer it for free with source code. Unless they own it now.
 
user1804599
7:48 PM
@Nican Nice, if you click it a second time it'll speak more slowly.
 
@MadameElyse Haha, did not know that.
 
@Nican what "speak" icon :/
 
user1804599
 
@melak47 The little "speaker" icon on the bottom of the translation window.
 
don't have that :(
 
7:50 PM
@gcouprie @Keruspe Interesting. Does GPaste auto-expire sensitive clipboards? Does it securely zero memory? What about the plugins/api?
Password managers are supposed tohave few integration options IYAM. Right?
 
yep
 
user1804599
@sehe does it disable swapping
 
@MadameElyse Why on earth did they select a retard voice? Is that tunable?
 
Ell
nvidia driver now has glvnd
cool!
 
Today is Safer Internet Day https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2016/02/building-safer-web-for-everyone.html?m=1 https://t.co/Hkn5yot9d3
 
user1804599
7:51 PM
@sehe No.
 
lol
 
@MadameElyse Your system has no swap, obviously
 
user1804599
My system has swap.
 
user1804599
But does it mlock I mean.
 
user1804599
Does it clear video RAM after displaying the password?
 
7:52 PM
I understood. I quipped
 
user1804599
Does it also do all these things with the length of the password?
 
@MadameElyse Yeah. That Chrome incognito porn leak bug was superb
 
user1804599
What bug?
 
@MadameElyse Size doesn't matter :)
 
7:54 PM
@Nican oh, it's not named after Swift language after all
 
non-estimated gas bill came
is actually cheap
great success
 
user1804599
Oct 25 '13 at 22:37, by sehe
@not-rightfold Still, I now know that. Worse, you just gave me a raw estimate on the remaining length
 
user1804599
 
@MadameElyse Itwzzajoke
 
Ell
7:57 PM
@sehe :(
 
user1804599
Today I had a VR device on and I watched a video of girls in bikinis jumping on trampolines.
 
wasted opportunity though
 
user1804599
I can't really watch hardcore porn at work.
 
what a shame
 
user1804599
Yeah I guess they are ashamed of it.
 
user1804599
8:00 PM
There's this Dutch TV show about transgender people and it's one big circle jerk.
 
user1804599
Wasted opportunity to make a good educational show. :(
 
user1804599
Well at least there is some attention to the issue.
 
also it's national pizza day in the US
woot
 
Does HomeBrew typically install on all accounts (on mac) or the current account?
 
Do I wanna know what a gokun is?
 
user1804599
8:01 PM
Yes.
 
> It's National Pizza Day in the U.S. What is the "real" American pizza: New York slice, Chicago deep-dish, or Californian anything goes?
 
user1804599
My favourite drink.
 
the one that is really flexible
 
@Shoe Hahaha :D
 
I see my favorite @Shoe is online :) <3
 
user1804599
8:02 PM
@DemCodeLines It installs in /opt/(usr/local/?)Cellar/ with symlinks in /usr/local, so it's for all users.
 
@TonyTheLion :3
 
every pizza is your national pizza if you care enough
 
Oh god
 
user1804599
I want rational pizzas.
 
8:03 PM
Oh god that makes me barf
 
@ElimGarak ...or unless they negotiate some deal to let them do that. Amazon can undoubtedly negotiate terms that Crytek would laugh at if the proposal came from you or me. Almost any offer Amazon might make would have to be taken seriously.
 
user1804599
Oh no I don't know what a gokun is. I only know what a gokkun is.
 
yeah that
why would you do that
 
user1804599
Isn't Gokun that DBZ guy?
 
user1804599
Or was that Goku?
 
8:04 PM
how would you even swallow that
 
how what
 
user1804599
@Shoe Because it's what the director says you have to do.
 
that's awful
 
user1804599
lol onebox
 
lol
 
8:05 PM
wow that's terrible
 
I actually feel nausea right now
I have no idea why I'm having such an overreaction to it
 
user1804599
Gokkun is basically Bukkake Extreme.
 
user1804599
@Shoe Because you're a newb.
 
did rightfold post a disgusting picture?
 
I think I'm glad and I wanna stay that way
 
8:06 PM
wow, that never happened before
3
 
> another
> that never happened before
> thatsthejokebutyourjokeisterrible.jpg
 
sorry I'm tired
 
user1804599
If I were hot and good at acting I'd become a porn actor.
 
that's about what rightfold amounts to
 
@Shoe Seriously, never try the cum omelette video then.
 
8:07 PM
using extremes to draw attention
 
I'm considering plonking rightfold now
 
wat
 
@milleniumbug you won't even notice his absence
trust me, I know
 
@AlexM. it wasn't a picture AFAICT
 
@Morwenn My imagination is running so wild I might as well just see that
Maybe not actually
 
8:08 PM
@AlexM. whoa what happened mate
 
@Shoe It's up to you now that you know that it exists.
 
Thank you Mowenn
 
> Mwnn
 
user1804599
@Morwenn lol I Google Imagesed it.
 
user1804599
It looks surprisingly much like a scrambled egg.
 
user1804599
8:10 PM
But that may just be f.lux.
 
@MadameElyse Hmm....since when is being (even sort of) good at acting a requirement to be in porn? Has porn changed so much in the last 20 years or so that it now actually involves acting?
 
user1804599
I should make this my Stack Overflow avatar.
 
user1804599
Dirk-Jan is boring and copyright infringement.
 
user1804599
Much better.
 
user1804599
inb4 upboats
 
8:14 PM
A digital, 3D printed sundial whose precise holes cast a shadow displaying the current time https://boingboing.net/2016/02/09/a-digital-3d-printed-sundial.html https://t.co/zTSRoXL9a7
@R.MartinhoFernandes this is for you ^
 
Ell
@Shoe did I miss a message or sthng? :V
 
1 message moved to bin
 
user1804599
@sehe Oh that is so awesome.
 
user1804599
Sadly it works only on a few places on Earth. :) And only in certain months.
 
@Ell Nah, I watched what gokkun is
 
8:15 PM
@Ell Alex is quite attached to the concept holy of pizza
 
Ell
@sehe cool but the video is very poorly produced imho :(
 
@MadameElyse Corrected for
@Ell I like it. I hope you're not just francophobe :)
 
user1804599
@sehe Not bad.
 
Ell
@sehe haha I'm not
It's the comic sans + background metal music + low framerate webcam + not very pretty hand drawings :(
 
Everything works, but fuck the Java platform
 
user1804599
lol the cat
 
How can you laugh at a poor, underprivileged cat being used and abused like this? This is a travesty, and must be stopped at once! Cats are people too!
 
@Ell I like all of them. Well, the font slightly less
 
Uploading 1.2GB over ADB; ETA: I want to die
 
user1804599
> sub infix:<≠>($a, $b) is prec(:equiv<==>) { $a != $b }
 
8:47 PM
ETA: don't count on it
 
@milleniumbug kek
Good guy ADB doesn't provide actual ETA
Mostly because it's useless for normal usage of adb sideload
 
. @meetingcpp @michaelpricedev And if you can't, profit `template <class R> auto make = [](auto... v) -> R { return R{v...}; };` #cpp14 #ftw
I love that pattern in Spirit X3 code
 
user1804599
> sub infix:<e̶q̶>($a, $b) is prec(:equiv<eq>) { $a ne $b }; say '1' e̶q̶ '01'
True
 
user1804599
lol
 
Do you prefer transfer or cisfer, @MadameElyse?
 
user1804599
8:53 PM
Saw a bunch of retards on TV cut a living cow's throat and drink its blood.
 
You need to watch tele less
 
user1804599
I have to watch something while eating.
 
user1804599
Not watching TV while eating dinner is boring.
 
user1804599
@набиячлэвэлиь lol
 
Maybe you should try to be less boring and stop insulting your dinner
 
8:54 PM
kek
rigidfold is dinnersexual
 
whut
 
user1804599
lol
 
@sehe So Hitchcock was right! Birds are evil!
 
After three days of battling with ADB and Flashtool, I now have a semi-functional Android device
Special thanks to: Sony/Plus for making fastboot reject oem unlock despite the bootloader being rootable
 
@wilx Did Hitchcock make that point? I think his point was people could be afraid of bullying or preying animals
 
user1804599
9:01 PM
How to suck HitchCOCK
 
@sehe Dunno, it was a joke!
 
I think Hitchcock disagrees
How to hitch a cock
 
user1804599
@sehe I should start a restaurant and insult diners.
 
@sehe oh no, they're evolving!
 
Xeo
@ThePhD Maybe interesting for you: twitter.com/stefanusdutoit/status/697148318317547521
 
user1804599
9:04 PM
oh boy Google + C++ + graphics
 
user1804599
Tripple disaster!
 
> NOTE: This is not an official Google product.
there is hope still
 
Xeo
> Copyright 2016 Google Inc.
It's still made by Google
 
@MadameElyse I'd try it out on rentals first. What if you don't like it
 
user1804599
Also saw a guy killing a woman on TV today.
 
user1804599
9:08 PM
It was not very fun to watch.
 
user1804599
But that was much after dinner.
 
@rubenvb You got experience with Nvidia Optimus + Windows 10?
I have now
And it's fucking shit
 
@MadameElyse Come on. Why
 
user1804599
@sehe Euthanasia.
 
oh
 
user1804599
9:09 PM
It was on DWDD.
 
user1804599
De een z'n dood is de ander z'n brood.
 
@MadameElyse Is that something like Panorama TV is in the rest of Europe? :D
 
user1804599
Oh wait VARA is socialist so no money is involved at all.
 
user1804599
@wilx I don't know what Panorama TV is.
 
user1804599
lol people flag Feeds
 
user1804599
9:11 PM
> Panorama is a BBC Television current affairs documentary programme.
 
user1804599
Not really, I think.
 
user1804599
DWDD is a talkshow. They talked about an upcoming TV show about euthanasia and showed fragments.
 
@MadameElyse Oh, it is a programme where they show panoramic views of landscapes. :)
 
user1804599
@wilx Sounds fun.
 
@Columbo I've not had any trouble on my laptop
 
user3790646
9:18 PM
Good evening
 
user1804599
> un objet compagnon
 
Hello all.
 
user1804599
hi @Nathan
 
user3790646
Cicada, Cicada's everywhere
 
@EtiennedeMartel I stopped reading at I am also privileged in the sense
 
@EtiennedeMartel I am not into self-flagellation.
 
@wilx Okay, and what's the link between those two elements?
 
user3790646
9:31 PM
@Nathan Welcome :D
 
user1804599
@wilx I stopped reading at "Etienne".
 
Ven
lol rightfold's rooms
 
user1804599
9:48 PM
@Ven What do you mean?
 

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