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9:00 AM
That guy has more muscle than Arnold.
 
Young Arnold or current-age Arnold?
 
@fredoverflow Current.
 
agreed
 
That's the joke.
 
oh
@ChemiCalChems I assumed you were a beginner. Are you not?
 
9:02 AM
@Rapptz lol. Heh, yeah. But you can hardly say Doom or Quake or any other kind of FPS is more complex with the puzzles.
 
@fredoverflow I'm fit and have had one year of gym classes at my school. You know, weight lifting and such. I'm a beginner but my body is fit to some extent.
 
Neither is Half-Life, any instalment.
 
asaik, even when rather strong, pull ups are still a good exercise. And those pull up bars that fit to a door are a good idea for those who need something
 
Yes, and you can't substitute pullups with something else.
 
@thecoshman Pull-ups are relatively easy for me since I'm light. We had to do pull-ups as a gym exam last year and the muscled guys didn't do as good as me, since they are way heavier than I am.
 
9:05 AM
Do you do all 4 kinds?
 
@fredoverflow what about hanging from your feet and pulling a weight up from beneath you?
 
@fredoverflow 4 kinds?
 
@ChemiCalChems vOv then add weight to yourself or do more of them
 
@ChemiCalChems Palm facing towards you, palm facing away from you, palm facing to the sides, wide.
 
@thecoshman I can do up to 10 with no weight on me. Better not do add weight.
 
9:06 AM
Palm facing towards you is by far the simplest.
 
@ChemiCalChems why not add weight?
@fredoverflow not heard of having palms to the sides
 
@fredoverflow All except palm to sides. I can do up to ten wide.
@thecoshman Cause 10 wide isn't that good.
 
@ChemiCalChems 10 wide? Ok, forget the video in that case ;)
 
10 wide?
 
@thecoshman Yes. 10 wide pull-ups. Is that good?
 
9:08 AM
10 pullups is definitely not beginner anymore.
 
what's a wide pull up?
 
And wide is the hardest.
@thecoshman Hands far apart.
 
oh right
 
@fredoverflow Holy shit. I feel awesome right now. I mean, it's because I'm light, but :D anyway.
 
On a good day, I can do 2 wide pullups ;)
 
9:09 AM
it's been years since I've even tried pull ups :\
 
All other forms, 8-10 is no problem. But wide is the shit.
 
@fredoverflow I mean, 10 wide burn. A lot. I have to grunt while doing the last 2 or 3.
 
That's good! The last ones have to hurt, or you won't be making much progress.
 
@fredoverflow Lol
Haven't done pull-ups for a couple of months though.
 
If your workout sounds like a gay porn, you're doing it right.
5
 
9:10 AM
I don't know how much I could do now.
@fredoverflow Hahahaha made my day
 
I've been meaning to buy some weights for home, but you know how plans go :\
 
You don't need to buy weights. All you need to buy is a pullup bar, the rest can be done with your own body weight.
And then you plow through Scooby's videos and you'll be a fitness guru in no time.
 
@fredoverflow My philosophy is body weight is the way of training. Your body was crafted to be able to move itself efficiently, not carry a 30 kilo burden on you all day long.
 
I wouldn't want to risk one of those pull up bars though, the framing bits on these doors are dodge as fuck
@ChemiCalChems and then you want to go hiking or something
 
@thecoshman You mean you fear they might break?
 
9:13 AM
@thecoshman I do biking.
But yes, cardio is important as fuck.
 
@fredoverflow yeah
 
Mine hasn't broken in 4 years or something. And I've never heard of one being broken so far.
 
@ChemiCalChems another thing on the meaning to get list... after my last bike tried to kill me :|
 
Of course you see people on YouTube who use it wrong and then fall.
 
@fredoverflow your's probably weren't built of shit
 
9:14 AM
@thecoshman Explain further, seems like an interesting story.
 
@ChemiCalChems bike-curious?
 
@fredoverflow people-almost-getting-killed-curious rather.
 
@ChemiCalChems I was leaving for work one morning, noticed the front was a bit flat just as leaving, so I tried to turn around. Taking it rather tight, the flat caused me to lose momentum very fast, then the front wheel was side-ways and then so was I :\
 
@thecoshman I've had a couple of those fly-off-bike moments. Mountain bike is a bit extreme at times.
Once I flew off at like 20 kmh, and fell with my right hip, no damage but that ached as hell.
Another time I landed on my hand, left middle finger flesh was exposed, kept on going.
It gets a bit dramatic sometimes, but most of the time nothing bad really happens.
 
but yeah, we have this bike to work scheme going on, so you can get about half the cost for free... but bikes seem to be rather expensive still
 
9:17 AM
@thecoshman Depends on the quality of the bike, of course.
 
oh for sure, they get crazy prices
 
Oh I know this one.
 
@fredoverflow :3 ftw
 
That's :3
 
Ell
9:38 AM
I can't do any pullups :v
 
@Ell None?
 
I sweat so much today, my face tasted salty, I could also see white patches on my face when I first reached home
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems Nope
 
@chmod711telkitty I feel lucky
@chmod711telkitty Seems hardcore
 
Ell
my upper body strength is not good and I am p heavy
 
9:39 AM
@Ell My upper body strength is below average, but I'm light. :D
 
@ChemiCalChems :D
I could lose some weight if I do this every weekend >_<
 
@chmod711telkitty How much do you weigh in at?
 
somewhere between 63kg - 75kg ... have not weighted recently
 
You know you've asked a stupid question if it's on SO with 100+ upvotes :(
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@chmod711telkitty Why do you wanna lose weight?
@Rapptz Like the --> operator. That was a stupid stupid one.
 
9:44 AM
@ChemiCalChems getting back to 60kg - 63kg with some muscles would be great
 
@chmod711telkitty I have it easier. I'm underweight, and want more muscle. So I just have to gain muscle, and that gives me extra weight too. :D
The problem is gaining muscle itself
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems how many calories & how much protein do you eat atm?
 
@Ell What my body asks me. When I'm hungry I eat. I eat a lot of meat too.
 
Ell
you should have a goal calorie intake imho
 
!!hi
 
Ell
9:46 AM
remember if you want to gain mass you need to eat more than you burn
and lots of protein if you want that to be muscle
 
what if fats only?
 
@Ell Yeah. I eat a lot. The problem is I don't gain weight because my metabolism is insane.
 
If you exercise a lot daily, then you can eat as much as you want & the calories would become muscles
 
Ell
@chmod711telkitty that is not true :v
 
@chmod711telkitty I don't exercise daily though. But I eat as much as I want.
 
Ell
9:50 AM
@ChemiCalChems I think it is better to keep track numerically
 
@chmod711telkitty Carbs do not turn into protein.
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems I know :)
 
@Ell That's really hard though, cause normally I cook for myself, you know. The counts would be guessimates at most.
 
hey, if carbs can turn into fat, why can't they turn into protein? :p
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems imho it's easier if you cook for yourself
you can weigh stuff, if you have a pair of digital scales it doesn't take long
 
9:51 AM
@chmod711telkitty Cause fat is carbon based. Proteins are aminoacid base, which is nitrogen.
 
but you are not eating carbohydrates only, are you?
 
pls no bad science
 
@chmod711telkitty No. But calories are given by energetic compounds, like carbohydrates. Not by protein, at least not most of the time. Therefore, calories can't turn into muscle.
Also, calories are just energy. Energy doesn't like turning into mass that easily.
 
pls no bad science
 
@Rapptz I'm not lying.
 
9:53 AM
I think it's time for you to stop posting friend
 
@Rapptz ?
 
Is that really what they teach you at school?
 
Well, I should have been more clear: people will intake protein, not because they want more muscles, but because otherwise they will suffer from malnutrition
 
You didn't plonk that lame trell yet?
 
@Rapptz What of all that I said was wrong? Impress me.
 
9:55 AM
"Impress me"?
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems protein definitely provides calories
 
@Ell Only if burned. Does not happen most of the time.
 
Protein not having calories is wrong, protein being "nitrogen" based as a conclusion is wrong too
calories being "carbon" based is wrong too
 
@Rapptz Nitrogen based.
 
I don't even know if you've said anything right yet
 
Ell
9:56 AM
protein & carbohydrates both provide 4 calories per gram
 
Lounge<Organic Chemistry 101>
 
TIL Calories = Sugar only
 
I am trying to drink 1.5 litre water
 
Are you pretending to be dumb or what?
 
9:56 AM
Much more nitrogen in there en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acid
 
because I might be dehydrated ...
 
> The key elements of an amino acid are carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen, though other elements are found in the side-chains of certain amino acids.
Read the shit you link.
 
@chmod711telkitty You have run out of beer?
 
I walked 35km today
 
Try not to get water poisoning.
 
9:57 AM
no alcohol while dehydrated
 
... or whatever they use for beer in Oz?
 
@Rapptz I know they are carbon based. Oh shit. I know all organic compounds are fucking carbon. But aminos have a lot more nitrogen.
Plus protein is much harder to burn than carbohydrates or fat.
 
@Rapptz you have to drink at least 8-10 litres in 8 hours to get water poisoning
 
I love how people think I'm stupid for saying things in a simple way.
I'm not in Chemistry class currently, you know.
 
@chmod711telkitty It's 4L in <2 hours.
 
9:59 AM
@chmod711telkitty ?? I've drunk that much Bud/Coors without serious poisoning symptoms.
 
@ChemiCalChems I don't enjoy oversimplification of science.
 
I constantly consume 1.5L in an hour ... occasionally 2L in an hour
 
@Rapptz I love chemistry. I know my facts. I just don't like pushing them down people's throats.
 
sometimes after I go for a jog, I drink a litre, then take a shower & drink another litre
 
@chmod711telkitty Sometimes I drink.
 
10:03 AM
@chmod711telkitty So much vodka can hurt you (if not Slavic)
 
yeah right ... if I drink 2 litre of vokda in an hour, I would probably be dead
 
Ell
definitely
 
morning
 
@chmod711telkitty ...if not Slavic
 
@chmod711telkitty I'm saying I drink little water compared to you. Not that you drink that much vodka
 
10:06 AM
Ah I knew I remember a case of 4L in under 2 hours.
 
Polish people have hilarious resistance(or whatever yo wanna call it) to alcochol
 
The only other ones I remember are the Wii one and the 4 gallons one.
 
> The LighterLife diet plan is aimed at people who are three or more stones overweight and involves consuming 500 calories a day for 12 weeks by replacing meals with shakes, soups and bars, as well as drinking water.
 
Yeah I didn't know her diet was that dumb.
 
500 calories a day? That doesn't even meet the body's basal necessities!
 
Ell
10:07 AM
@Rapptz man
that doesn't even seem that difficult to do
but maybe that's because the first litre is easy
 
@ChemiCalChems Probably why it loses weight, huh
 
Ell
and the second one is not so tough
 
@Puppy I'm talking stay alive basal necessities.
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems if you want to lose weight you have to go below your base metabolic rate
unless you mean something else by "basal"? vOv
 
@ChemiCalChems That's what the body has fat stores for.
 
10:09 AM
@Puppy I know. But then your body bounces up like crazy because it says FOOD FOOD FOOD
That diet is stupid as fuck
 
you are underweight because you are young
wait until you are in your 40s with an office job
 
Eggsactly
 
it says FOOD FOOD FOOD all the time
 
@chmod711telkitty Yeah. I hope my metabolism stays as it is.
@Puppy If you starve it, then it stores everything you give it just in case. That's why you should never skip foods on a diet.
 
well it really can't do that because it's below the basal rate.
you just said so yourself.
so if it stores it instead of using it and the fat stores, you will die.
so I find it hard to believe that the body would store 500 calories and not use any from fat when it needs 1000 calories or whatever to survive.
 
10:12 AM
@Puppy I mean after the diet. Once you finish, your body stores everything in fat.
 
meh
after the diet you can just go back to eating a normal diet
 
@Puppy And then comes the bounce back.
 
nah
that only happens because you're happy that you lost all the weight and then you don't go back to eating a normal diet
 
@Puppy True.
 
that's how eating disorder starts
 
10:15 AM
@chmod711telkitty Humans are so so foolish
 
Risk of premature death from an eating disorder is 6-12 times higher than the general population
Depression is experienced by approximately 45% to 86% of individuals with an eating disorder
 
@chmod711telkitty sighs
 
I use the exercise way to control weight
 
@chmod711telkitty Exactly. If people exercised according to what they eat and not vice versa...
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems surely vice versa would be the same?
 
10:27 AM
@Ell No. Eating according to exercise supposes stress because you do not eat as much as you would like to and stuff.
 
Ell
exercising according to stress does the same because you have to exercise a ridiculous amount
 
@Ell True.
 
@ChemiCalChems You sound like Michael Pollan ;)
 
@fredoverflow How so?
 
Well, he basically says we don't need scientists to tell us what to eat. And we should not concentrate on eating nutrients.
 
10:35 AM
@fredoverflow I mean, you have to eat varied, yes. But you don't have to measure exactly how many calories you eat a day, or how much grams of fat you've ingested. That's not cool to me.
 
@ChemiCalChems Doing all that is called "nutritionism", and yeah, it's kinda stupid. But bodybuilders think they need it.
 
> if she’d care that I’m gay.
 
@fredoverflow If you exercise a lot, your body will make you hungrier.
 
I'm pretty sure after your mother hasn't seen you in twenty years, the last thing she'd care about is whether you like d@cks.
 
10:38 AM
What's wrong with ducks?
 
@fredoverflow No, no. Docks.
 
he meant docks
 
I've been living next to a dock in that town in England for one year
 
:/ ... a split second too late :/
 
@chmod711telkitty Wait, why aren't you plonked
 
10:40 AM
yeah funny that came from you ...
 
@chmod711telkitty I can't heeeaaar you
 
I read some blogs of thru-hikers. Apparently if you walk 30km a day everyday with a big backpack, you can eat whatever you want and you won't put on any weight
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems it is useful to do so
 
@chmod711telkitty Walking 30 kilometres is an insane strain for the body.
 
Yes, I know, the tricky part is that 30km hike a day
 
Ell
10:45 AM
how do you know you are getting the right amount of nutrients etc. if you don't know how much you have ingested?
 
@Ell Because I feel healthy.
How have we done it for millions of years?
 
Ell
We died at the age of 30 a million years ago
 
@Ell Humans have been eating healthy for a very long time. And then we invented the "Western diet", and now people are sicker than ever.
 
Ell
also today is a very different environment
 
@fredoverflow Mediterranean diet rocks.
 
10:47 AM
In fact, if you are overweight & you are doing 30km a day with a backpack, you will lose quite a bit weight after your hiked for a month
 
Ell
@fredoverflow right - which is why I think it is necessary to measure how much of each nutrient we eat
I'm not saying we ahve to be 99% accurate, but doing a few measurements doesn't hurt
 
@Ell No, you simply have to stop eating processed food.
 
Ell
What do you count as "processed"?
 
@Ell Anything that comes packaged.
 
Anything that consists of "ingredients".
 
10:48 AM
@fredoverflow That's a good one. Potatoes are not processed for example.
 
Or, if you're not super hardcore, anything that has more than 5 ingredients.
 
But the bad news is that they also say that weight is something that left at home. As soon you stop hiking, it will get back to you.
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems how do I buy natural yoghurt that is not pacakged? :P
 
@fredoverflow lettuce, tomato, cucumber, salt, pepper & vinegar ... or in short: a salad?
 
@chmod711telkitty Just like muscles in biking. You gain them fast, lose them faster
 
10:49 AM
You can eat yoghurt if you're not super hardcore. I eat yoghurt. But it doesn't have fruits or sugar or whatnot added.
 
@Ell I meant precooked.
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems okay - this makes much more sense
 
@fredoverflow Yoghurt is basically rotten milk, so there is no problem.
 
Ell
@fredoverflow same here, hence "natural" :)
 
Yoghurt = milk + healthy bacteria, right?
 
10:51 AM
@Ell I buy my yoghurt greek, which rocks, and natural. Then add brown sugar.
Brown sugar is awesome.
 
Ell
But just because you eat unprocessed foods, it doesn't mean you have a good diet
 
@Ell Of course not. You can't only live off unprocessed meat.
 
Ell
For example I I don't eat enough omega3/oily fish
 
@ChemiCalChems I don't add sugar to meals anymore. I use fruit instead.
 
Ell
but I don't buy ready meals etc. I buy loose vegetables & fruit, and unprocessed meat
 
10:52 AM
@fredoverflow That's a good choice too.
 
Ell
it does not mean that I have a good diet
 
@Ell Having a good diet is hard
 
Ell
@ChemiCalChems this is the point I am making :)
Just "feeling healthy" isn't enough to be sure you have a good diet
 
@Ell Feeling healthy is a guarantee you are doing somewhat good
 
no, no it really is not.
the feelings you perceive do not have to have any connection to reality at all.
 
10:53 AM
@Ell lol, omega 3 is the current blessed nutrient of the food industry :) I highly recommend watching this guy:
 
you are doing good if objective measurement says you are doing good.
 
@Puppy My body makes objective measurements.
 
Ell
@fredoverflow I will watch it later :)
 
@ChemiCalChems Having a good diet is incredibly easy if you're willing to cook yourself.
 
Ell
I only bring this in particular up because the NHS says one should have at least two portions of fish a week, one at least being oily fish
 
10:55 AM
@fredoverflow True.
 
Also, cooking saves a ton of money.
I can't believe people spend 10 bucks on a pizza on a regular basis.
 
@fredoverflow I have maximum one pizza every 2 weeks
 
Ell
@fredoverflow IMHO pizza can't be cooked well in a conventional oven
but yeah $10 on a pizza on a regular basis is ridiculous
 
@fredoverflow $10 would get you 2 large pizzas here.
From a local store obv.
 
@Rapptz Ten bucks gives you 2,5 awesome quality precooked pizzas
 
10:58 AM
"awesome quality precooked"? Is that possible?
 
@fredoverflow The pizza itself is awesome.
 
I have to admit, I eat unhealthy food semi-regularly ... like fast food every fortnight and pizza every month, bacon & cheese sandwich quite often.
 
@chmod711telkitty I could eat much healthier. I eat frozen food on a semi-regular basis too.
Like chicken nuggets, pizza, and that stuff.
 
I haven't eaten frozen food in like 5 years.
Well okay, sometimes I eat frozen fruits.
 
@fredoverflow lol
 
11:00 AM
There's nothing wrong with food being frozen.
It's just that most frozen food happens to be nutritional crap.
 
@fredoverflow The pizza I buy is actually pretty good nutritionally
 
I love ice cream :'(
 
ice cream has way too much sugar in it
 
Ell
@fredoverflow not even bread? o.O
 
Frozen bread? I didn't even know that was a thing.
 
11:02 AM
@fredoverflow and fat ...
 
@Ell I buy bread at a local store.
 
Fat is not as bad as people think. Your brain needs a lot of fat.
 
@chmod711telkitty I give myself a small ice cream a day.
 
Ell
@fredoverflow well you don't buy it frozen
you buy it and then freeze it
 
but I still love it ... it's the only unhealthy food I would do on a regular basis
 
11:03 AM
@chmod711telkitty If you counter it with exercise, nothing is bad for you really
 
@Ell Well, to be honest, I haven't bought bread in years either :)
But when I do, I eat it in a couple of days. No need to freeze it.
 
@fredoverflow Where are you from?
 
Germany
 
@fredoverflow Bread there is popular isn't it?
 
Yes, Germans love their bread.
There's nothing wrong with bread.
I just don't eat it very much. Dunno why.
 
11:04 AM
@fredoverflow I love bread. Especially toasted.
 
I guess there's not much you can put atop on bread that I like.
 
lately I am getting into this lettuce in soy sauce thing ... if I get hungry late at night, that's what I will eat ...
 
Oh wait, I eat bread when I visit my dad.
@chmod711telkitty Does one eat or drink soy sauce? :)
 
too salty
but the lettuce is too plain
 
@chmod711telkitty Has estrogens. :D
@chmod711telkitty Add a bit of olive oil and salt.
 
11:05 AM
Oil at night? :p
that's a no no
 
@chmod711telkitty Everybody has an Achilles' heel. I like to eat chocolate with Xylitol instead of sugar.
 
@chmod711telkitty Olive oil is a vegetable fat. It's unsaturated and stuff
 
Ell
I love bread
 
@chmod711telkitty Why?
 
Ell
you can put anything in a sandwich :D
 
11:07 AM
@Ell lol
 
@ChemiCalChems oil has the same calorie as fat per gram
 
@chmod711telkitty And is unsaturated. If you burn it, it's good.
 
@ChemiCalChems Again, we need fat. Nothing wrong with fat per se. Fat does not make people fat. Sugar does.
 
@fredoverflow Excess sugar and excess fat.
 
Okay, but you can't consume, for example, excessive olive oil, can you?
 
11:08 AM
@fredoverflow I don't think you can, never said so. I approve of olive oil.
 
Olive oil is awesome.
 
I eat hearty meal for breakfast/brunch, but I generally don't like to intake many calories 2-3 hours before I head for bed
 
It's good, healthy and unsaturated
@chmod711telkitty I eat little or nothing for breakfast, but all of my other meals are hearty.
 
@Ell Most bread you can buy in super markets is complete crap, isn't it?
 
Saturated fats in oils is incredibly uncommon.
 
Ell
11:10 AM
@fredoverflow I wouldn't say so
 
Here is a serious scientist who doesn't like super market bread:
 
@Rapptz I know. That's why oils are awesome.
 
I don't eat bread
except with oily foods
 
Ell
@fredoverflow I wish he wasn't half naked :(
 
Scooby never wears shirts.
 
11:13 AM
@Rapptz How/when did you get into Scooby?
 
I don't.
 
So how do you know about his non shirt issue?
 
/fit/ likes him.
 
@MarcoA. What?
 
user1804599
11:17 AM
hi
 
55 beats per minute rest pulse
not bad at all
 
@rightfold How many pull ups do you do per week? If you don't do pull ups, how many git pulls?
5
 
user1804599
What is a pull up?
 
@rightfold A resistor to Vcc. 47k is OK for most modern controllers.
 
11:19 AM
This reminds me of that time when NVIDIA engineers suddenly went on a fitness spree: OMG I NEED 6PACKS NOW! MY SIX PACK IS DOWN, HELP
 
@MartinJames kek
 
( ndMarco: 6packs is a cluster :] )
 
hey :3
 
@MuneerKhan Sup?
inb4 questions
 
3: yeh
 
11:40 AM
> Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 13,625
Gaem's expensive to make, yo
 
lol dad "hi - hi" exchange here
 
@fredoverflow Heh. That's kinda what I have.
I always forget to eat due to it too.
Not a "real" eating disorder though.
 
@Rapptz just eat something after
people who really love food never forget to eat >_<
it's like heroin addict never forget to inject heroin
This world it's all about priority!
 
user1804599
11:59 AM
main :: IO ()
main = simpleHTTP nullConf serverPart'
    where dataDir = "/Users/rightfold/temp/axolotl-pastes"
          store' = store dataDir
          load' = load dataDir
          serverPart' = serverPart store' load'
 
user1804599
Partial application is the best dependency injection.
 

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