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@WorldSEnder I remember dealing with that a while ago and having to enable if two separate versions of the function
one for voids and one for non-voids
I never thought my solution was unintuitive tho
 
When I build my house, each person would have 2 drills (yes we have a lot of drills), so changing drill bits is avoid as much as possible. But even then, having to swap the drills is always extra work because unless you have a specialized utility belt(which we don't), sometimes you have to climbing up/down the ladder to change the tools.
 
@Noob do you bless me using my super amazing C++ config library for Gaem?
 
@nabijaczleweli You are blessed
 
12:24 AM
@nabijaczleweli Sure.
 
@ʞɔᴉN Look at #12, it's mentioned there, too!
(shameless self promotion, I know)
 
posted on July 30, 2015 by Marian Luparu [MSFT]

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> Android/C++/graphics etc. programmer
lovely job to write down on your CV
 
I have an awesome idea - why don't spaceships heading for other planets carrying roaches with viruses & see whether they will be able to survive on other planets? :p
The answer is probably no, but still, it would not hurt ...
 
12:40 AM
You'd need to carry oxygen.
 
a system containing small green plants, cockroaches & viruses & a hole which enable them to get out?
 
Would those plants provide enough oxygen, fast enough?
@JerryCoffin Hey, you're a small insect, how much oxygen do you require per minute?
 
@Feeds Are you kidding me
 
12:58 AM
@Nooble @nabijaczleweli is it possible to set a fixed framerate yet? and what is the max tested?
 
@ʞɔᴉN Framerate is 75ms/frame by default, you should be able to get 5ms easily
Just change main.cpp#115
 
so 200 fps potential max?
I thought there was some concern about flickering
 
Whatever you set it to
That was back when we were using std::cout
Experiment with it, I was easily getting 5ms
 
200 fps for graphics is pointless
 
you can try 500us if you feel adventurous
@MaiLongdong s/graphics/text/
 
1:03 AM
That's debatable, but yeah for this game it wouldn't make a difference
positions don't change smoothly anyways
 
Yes, they do
 
they do?
 
Pixel-perfect movement
But our pixel is pretty big
 
I thought it was like ____X____ -> _____X___
 
Well, yeah
Our pixel is 5x8 or whatever your terminal/font combo is
 
1:04 AM
"pixel-perfect" lol
 
Well, this is not wrong
 
You're not only increasing framerate, but tick speed too, no?
 
The game will be too fast :P
 
1:05 AM
is mai butte
 
I can set gravity to run after some time
 
So that gravity will be constant
 
@MaiLongdong Some people have overclocked korean monitors to 200Hz.
 
you would calculate velocities against refresh/tick rate
 
1:06 AM
Yeah, tick rate should be independent of gravity and such.
 
what should I name std::vector<u8>? Its a data buffer. DataBuffer? Buffer? Is there a typical name used
 
Physics needs to be constant
 
Movement would also be too fast, mind you.
 
no
well
 
@Nooble Limited by how fast you can click
 
1:06 AM
I don't know how nab is doing it since I'm too lazy to look at the code
 
@Prismatic Buffer.
 
Or, well, by your SW key repeat
 
@nabijaczleweli You can hold the button down.
Yeah, it shouldn't be like that.
 
@Nooble Very useful, did they also overclock their eyes and brain to see at 200 fps?
 
@Prismatic SomeOctets
 
1:07 AM
but you would multiply delta time by velocity and get a position. movement speed would remain constant at any tick/refresh rate
 
@Nooble SW key repeat
 
200fps would be like
 
@MaiLongdong I can definitely see the difference between 60 and 144.
 
5ms refresh
screw that
 
@ʞɔᴉN too complex, nobody cares anyway
 
1:08 AM
it's quite simple
 
But I've never seen a 200Hz panel, so I dunno.
 
I can barely get my update loop down to 2ms
 
any production ready game has timers
timers
 
> production ready game
 
well
 
1:08 AM
this is in-dev gaem
 
any remotely serious game
that doesn't matter
timing is the most basic part of any video game
 
> video game
this is text gaem
 
nab you realize it's gonna run differently on every system the way you're implementing it?
 
yes I do shut up
 
@Nooble Perhaps, but that doesn't mean you perceive 144 fps. Maybe above 90 you don't see a difference anymore (random number).
 
1:10 AM
ok
 
@ʞɔᴉN #blamenooble
 
@MaiLongdong doesn't really matter, more fps is always better :)
@nabijaczleweli agreed, he's the cause of all our troubles
 
@ʞɔᴉN no
 
FPS should = n * monitor refresh rate
 
@MaiLongdong you're trying to figure out a reason but you won't because you can't
 
1:12 AM
so no tearing will occur
 
bigger is always better
'murica
@nabijaczleweli so vsync?
 
@ʞɔᴉN yeah, basically
 
@ʞɔᴉN because I have nothing to prove and I actually cba
 
I heard something about NVidia's GSync(?), which works the opposite way
Not sure how true that was though
 
If you check kbhit() per tick, movement speed per second.
@nabijaczleweli Also AMD's FreeSync.
 
1:13 AM
freesync > gsync
 
Even if !kbhit() I do the movement tick
 
40Hz at that is still buttery smooth.
 
@nabijaczleweli yeah.. gonna be a while before it's commonplace though
@MaiLongdong prove it
 
Why am I not hearing the plinks ffs
 
wait you cba
 
1:14 AM
yep
 
please make another general statement with nothing to back it up
 
you suck
 
aha, true
 
Is butte Centralne Biuro Antykorupcyjne?
Didn't notice; Fuck
 
1:17 AM
It's the same in English, apparently
Shiny
 
May 5 at 1:23, by Cicada
@nick inheritance is terrible
 
Inheritance is overused and abused by some people, especially college CS 101 people I've heard.
 
meh, it doesn't always make sense but it has its uses
 
@ʞɔᴉN s/it's/its/
 
make everything a helper class!
 
1:20 AM
@ʞɔᴉN look at his name
 
are you natively English?
 
@ʞɔᴉN Yeah it is.
Composition and subtyping are great, inheritance is meh
 
@nabijaczleweli good catch, I'm getting sloppy with my apostrophes
 
Is @MaiLongdong @rightfold?
 
no he's new
he just joined the other day :)
 
1:21 AM
@ʞɔᴉN sloppy apostrophe catastrophe
 
@jaggedSpire lol I don't want to freestyle battle you anymore
my word game is too weak
 
@jaggedSpire Catapostrophe?
 
@ʞɔᴉN We were battling? I thought you and that other dude told me to cram as many Nicks as I could into a sentence.
And then I did, and then I couldn't actually parse Nick anymore.
 
yeah and then I said we have to have a freestyle battle sometime on mumble
 
I have this one keyswitch which is incredibly light.
Stupid S key.
 
1:23 AM
@ʞɔᴉN Ah.
 
@Nooble SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssstupid
 
didn't properly hear you.
 
@Nooble You run away from fight way too often :P
 
except my freestyle would probably be me reciting eminem from 8 mile #original
 
sounded...a little like a mumble to me.
 
1:23 AM
we need a lounge freestyle competition
 
@jaggedSpire lol weak
 
I need time to fit words together to get a proper avalanche
 
haha
@Prismatic we could but you know I'd win
 
@ʞɔᴉN I missed out on two nickish words, btw: knicknack and nix
 
@jaggedSpire A jagged avalanche.
 
1:25 AM
@Nooble very nice
 
@jaggedSpire Nix are for kids?
 
@Nooble did you lube it up too much?
how'd it go with the stabilizers btw?
 
@ʞɔᴉN I didn't lube it.
 
@Nooble *nix isn't for kids, sorry
 
@Nooble I hope not. One definition of nix is a water fae, I think. edit: yep, germanic water sprite
 
1:26 AM
@ʞɔᴉN Backspace is buttery smooth now.
 
mmm
 
@jaggedSpire Water fae?
@ʞɔᴉN Cherry-style stabilizers are weird.
 
@Nooble don't mess with the fae. They'll put your face on backwards for fun.
classic fae are quite fun for everyone that doesn't have to have anything to do with them, like the person reading the book.
 
I've made a ghetto keycap remover from a twist-tie.
 
@Nooble excellent job
 
1:29 AM
@Nooble i think my Ducky uses those too
seems like some people don't like cherry stabilizers but I really like em
 
@jaggedSpire As expected, since I am me.
 
a bit squishy but more satisfying than the rest of the keys for some reason
 
I can't stop thinking about this now
 
what
 
Plz not
 
1:31 AM
@nabijaczleweli my brain cannot even process that
 
@ʞɔᴉN It doesn't make much sense without context
And the rest of that song
 
looks like one of those spam comments where random words are fitted together with some vague grammar rules
it's like throwing a wrench into the gears of my brain lol
 
by markov chains
 
The original is also really weird to reproduce from just words
 
@milleniumbug is that how they're produced?
 
1:33 AM
@ʞɔᴉN s/wr/w/
 
Some of them yes
 
interesting, always wondered but never really cared enough to do research
 
as usual
 
meh, I can't argue
@MaiLongdong in 11 hrs you need to get on mumble
 
1:40 AM
I need to get off
(Mumble, that is)
 
you can't tempt me
 
I'm converting English to slightly more borken english at an alarming rate
Or maybe don't
 
Hello
 
Just popping in to say I'm stupid.
 
1:44 AM
Good to hear, why is that?
 
Not catching that starbait
 
s/pp/op/ and it'd be perfect
 
Meh. Just getting more and more aware of how my life is just an endless string of me fucking up and the Universe magically fixing things for me.
 
what happened now
 
I heard sparkling Bjarne helps with magical things
 
1:51 AM
Nothing happened.
Just pondering.
 
I'd still suggest sparkling Bjarne, just in case
 
@jaggedSpire Is Fae a human?
 
@Nooble Fae is another word for faerie, though I'm fairly certain it comes with the implication of referring to the non-disneyfied version of faeries, as well, since he never used fae in his works to refer to his faeries. Why?
 
@jaggedSpire Dunno.
I thought it was spelled Fairy.
 
@Nooble That's another spelling. It's an old enough word it was around before standardized spelling for English.
 
1:57 AM
@jaggedSpire Ah I see.
 
@Nooble Back when they just stuck random vowels in the middle of words to better imitate their pronunciation, rather than the last few centuries, where they've periodically tried to restructure spelling to obey a singular set of rules.
very much applies
"There are like five sets of rules for spelling words! Let's make a universal one!"
"There are six sets of rules for spelling words!"
 
@jaggedSpire It's like Scot's language. I heard they encourage you to just sound it out. There's no standardization.
 
@Nooble TIL
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes <3
 
@jaggedSpire Funny thing, I also learned this today. A person in my class asked if Scottish people had their own language, so I put my Google-Fu to use.
 
2:09 AM
@Nooble Google-Fu: a use for every occasion
 
Can somebody recommend a book on OpenCL for someone who has done a lot of CUDA?
 
@Nooble huh, looks like they actually do
 
@Mikhail Ask Mr. Longdong.
 
At first I thought you told me to go fuck myself, but then stackoverflow.com/users/703016/mai-longdong
 
@Mikhail Gotta love Cicada
 
2:24 AM
cicada? who said anything about Cicada?
 
And Nooble, of course, since that's me.
 
@ʞɔᴉN Silly me. No one said anything about Cicada
 
2:41 AM
I need to add an explicitly defaulted move constructor to foo to get the desired output of 30 30 30 and I don't understand why
 
2:58 AM
If bar is made into an std::vector<int> you get the expected output, so you can always investigate flat_map.
It is not unlikely that flat_map has a copy constructor but no move constructor. Although I don’t recall the rules off-hand, that possibly suppresses the move constructor for foo.
Then you get copies during reallocations, which don’t carry the capacity over.
 
As an aside, isn't flat_map bad for performance? N inserts?
 
OTOH if you reserve the right size then there is no relocation so you get the expected output because you really are querying the foos that you emplaced.
 
@Mikhail There's no N inserts there in this code for flat_map
 
@MaiLongdong Lack of noexcept move operations I should say.
> flat_map(flat_map &&);
if that’s accurate then that’s it
Hilarious; the move assignment op has a conditional noexcept but the move constructor has nothing according to those docs.
 
3:15 AM
Does this mean that noexcept is considered harmful?
or at-least annoying?
 
No.
 
@LucDanton ow.
 
hahahahaha
 
that looks like a lot of fun
 
4:13 AM
I need to sleeeeep.
I just got home.
Damn trains.
 
QA Engineer walks into a bar. Orders a beer. Orders 0 beers. Orders 999999999 beers. Orders a lizard. Orders -1 beers. Orders a sfdeljknesv.
 
Fucking hell
Why do they teach new and delete to people that have yet to master recursion is beyond me
As if C++ was not difficult enough
They have to make you hate it
 
@Nooble damn, took a while
 
4:32 AM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ obviously manual memory management is a core skill to understand computation /s
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ those things seem p unrelated
 
dynamic memory management is fucking advanced topic
you teach it after templates
and way after recursion
 
I dont think I learned recursion until after pointers
 
that's because pretty much all C++ teachers suck
and think that pointers are basics
 
4:48 AM
My running assumption is it's because so many learned C first, and think of C++ as C with classes.
So yes, they suck and think pointers are basics
 
I've given up sleeping.
 
@Nooble I haven't.
Good night, Lounge.
 
@jaggedSpire Good night.
I wonder, was she just waiting for someone to say my exact words?
If I had never said it, she could've died from sleep-deprivation.
I've saved yet another soul.
 
@Nooble Keep telling yourself that.
 
4:52 AM
@Nooble You've saved yet another soul.
On a more serious note, I've found that a one-inch thick 12 x 6 inch aluminum plate costs $50.
@ʞɔᴉN And that's the actual cost of an aluminum 60% keyboard case.
Besides machining.
Oh and if you were to make aluminum keycaps, that's 0.5 x 11 x 5.
Which is $38.
The aluminum is fairly cheap but the cheapest company I see charges a $30 cutting fee.
 
5:16 AM
@Nooble that's quite expensive
I'm sure it's far cheaper if you buy in bulk and cut yourself
 
Geebus.
One more person flip-reverses their nick name here and I quit. :(
 
only 2 flipped names and i'm changing it back soon anyways
it's causing a bit of distress apparently :/
 
@wilx cool now I know how to make you quit :P
 
5:42 AM
@JerryCoffin I wonder what Bjarne does to teach C++ as an introductory PL course, in one or two semesters.
I guess top-down, like bringing stuff to students opaquely, not minding on the details.
 
@StackedCrooked ;_;
 
6:06 AM
sop m8s
 
6:25 AM
@MarkGarcia He mostly doesn't now, but when he did, I'd guess that's probably pretty close.
 
6:59 AM
Fucking pointers
Staying up until 9am to fix fucking new and delete bugs.
Fuck all universities that do this, seriously.
Want to teach new and delete? Go teach it to those who give a crap about low level memory management.
Not complete newbies.
My hairs are becoming white.
I like that this professor managed to stuff pointers, new, recursion and templates all in one exercise.
What kind of fucked up mind must he/she have to do that.
Especially when he doesn't even know how to fucking write a free function
Everything is a member function for some reason.
Even if no this is used whatsoever
Good job
Piece of shit education
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Pretty sure he wants you to be an STL implementer.
 
Not me, this poor guy I'm tutoring.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Needs moar Stallman indoctrination.
 
Who apparently has a hard time understanding pointers or even the difference between = and ==, but at 4 hours from the submit date he asks for help with an exercise that has templates in it????
I don't even
I don't even know how we managed to get there in time
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I'm pretty sure that's the reason why he wants you to tutor him.
 
7:06 AM
Not 4 hours from the submit date, sorry. It takes 1 month to get there properly.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ why are you tutoring?
 
Because money
And sometimes it's fun
Sorry for this rant.
I'm calm now.
 
Xeo
7:25 AM
geh. The film crew is already here :<
 
Xeo
@MarkGarcia I hope that won't be the case
 
@Xeo hackertyper.net is always in for the rescue.
 
mike so acton
 
user1804599
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ just remove all delete expressions and install Boehm.
 
user1804599
7:28 AM
Problem solved.
 
user1804599
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It's not that hard to understand why they do that.
 
user1804599
They do that because they are complete and utter morons don't know C++ themselves.
 
@rightfold just remove all delete expressions. problem solved :P
 
user1804599
Just use Java. Problem factory introduced.
 
@StackedCrooked Half the problem is gone!
 
7:30 AM
progress :)
 
People are finding Win 10 UI sexy. I hate the wireframe icons used everywhere on the apps. (though those on the tray I'm perfectly fine with)
 
user1804599
Screenshot please.
 
>2015
>people using windows
 
@rightfold Lots of info to hide, but if you can wait...
 
user1804599
Looks like iOS 8.
 
user1804599
7:40 AM
Why is the title bar so huge?
 
Wireframes galore.
 
Looks flat. Where are my 3D controls?
 
user1804599
omg
 
user1804599
> from hask.Data.List import take
 
user1804599
7:41 AM
eww what the fuck capitalized module names
 
UIs used to be designed to be functional. nowadays they are designed to look fashionable.
 
@rightfold I don't mind that. At least now some apps utilize the space (e.g. Edge browser).
 
user1804599
My desktop is the best.
 
user1804599
i3 master race.
 
@thecoshman The guy never even looks at the kid. As if he prefers to remain ignorant. So much like SO.
 
7:44 AM
Seen too much.
Yes, definitely Stack Overflow.
 
@StackedCrooked probably trying not to acknowledge how stupid he's being, and drunk
 
It's a great analogy.
 
I finally found out why I'm always tired
Low blood pressure
So I sincerely welcome my best friend, Coffee.
 
Fast food and unhealthy lifestyle are also great ways to increase the blood pressure.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked A good anal lodgy.
 
7:54 AM
@StackedCrooked I'll try that out, thanks!
@rightfold Ago oda nallodgy
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion the umbrella one was in NL :p
 
user1804599
My favourite GIF of all time:
 

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