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user1804599
8:00 AM
did you just call me fat?
 
I still suck when pulling away form lights/onto roundabouts with cars behind me... I try to rush, slip clutch to fast and stall :\ just something that I need practice to get over.
 
user1804599
you just said I'm fat
 
@thecoshman ah I thought that doesn't require any license
 
@rightfold no tubsy, I didn't
 
user1804599
you're fat yourself! fatass.
 
8:00 AM
@thecoshman yeah don't worry about that. In doubt just more gas.
 
user1804599
> Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for tubsy.
 
@BartekBanachewicz all you can do with out the learn licence is ride in cars :P or apply for licence :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz well yeah, of clutch too fast with not enough accel
 
In Poland you can only ride with an instructor w/o a license
@thecoshman what car do you practice on?
 
8:02 AM
well in Ireland you have to have sat the theory test first, so you at least know the rules of the road
IMO it's insane for a country to not do it that way.
 
in Poland you have to be after theory schooling as well
20 hours.
 
@BartekBanachewicz so far, only the instructors little car... not sure what it is... corsa maybe...
@BartekBanachewicz there's no 'course' just a test you have to pass
100% before you ask :D
I think 80% is the pass mark...
 
user1804599
{ 1; 2 } will be a type error.
 
yeah a friend of mine recently passed that in the UK
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol, such an Irish way of talking
 
user1804599
8:03 AM
yeah a friend of mine recently passed out in the UK
 
@BartekBanachewicz in UK you don't have to do theory test until you are wanting to sit the practical
plus they have this god awful 'hazard perception test'
 
heard about that too
 
it's utter shite, don't get me angry in the morning
 
I think the idea is pretty good
you don't get much time to think on the road either
 
user1804599
drive more slowly1
 
8:05 AM
hazards aren't really hazards if they are happening down roads you have no intention of going towards
I think the core idea is good, but the implementation is just terrible
 
uff.. should be more specialized for the C++ ones
 
user1804599
dat pun
 
first three questions: node.js, c# and then C++ templates
 
user1804599
that's why you add an extra tag to your filter
 
composition > inheritance
 
8:07 AM
@rightfold 1) Not sure how would I do that. 2) I'd miss if a user only tagged it with "templates"
 
@MarcoA. Why?
 
my chair feels slightly wrong ¬_¬
enough to annoy me...
oh, has anyone tried Atom Editor yet? thinking I might have a play around with it...
 
@thecoshman point 1) is solved :D
@CatPlusPlus read along
 
Ell
I use Atom
 
8:10 AM
starbait not taken
 
@MarcoA. and point two
 
@thecoshman um, not really
 
TIL https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/templates[space]c++ will actually filter node.js stuff out
 
user1804599
@Ven should we add #if..#endif to Mill for target-specific code? Another option'd be to handle this in the build system.
 
if they have a question on "C++ Templates" and only tag one of them, then it's not on "C++ Templates"
 
8:11 AM
@thecoshman tell that to teh n00bz
but I'd concur
 
user1804599
how to find language implementations on GitHub: github.com/search?q=stmt&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, one particular example that annoys me from when I was practising it; There is a guy on a ladder by the road, sure that's a hazzard, except, the video that's 'you' turns of that road well before you get to it.
@Ell and?
worth trying?
 
@MarcoA. Yeah that's not a good reason
 
@CatPlusPlus YO
 
I need a new phone pls recommend
 
Ell
8:13 AM
@thecoshman well I've used it as my daily editor for the past 6 months I guess
I like it
 
@MarcoA. you can also exclude tags IIRC
 
Ell
Its like sublime text
@buttifulbuttefly OPO
 
@Ell but...?
@buttifulbuttefly shout
 
Jun 26 at 4:26, by Cat Plus Plus
Oh look Atom released 1.0 and they still ship AltGr bindings which breaks things on international layouts
 
@Ell Sold out on their website, next
 
Ell
8:14 AM
Hmm
 
@thecoshman that should be on the "filter" list somehow. It would be intuitive
and useful ofc
 
@CatPlusPlus who cares about idiots with crappy keyboard layouts?
 
Ell
Buy one on amazon/eBay? :P
 
@thecoshman I dunno I'd need to see it I guess
@thecoshman sigh
the UK layout is a nonstandard crappy one as well FYI
 
@BartekBanachewicz they'e all non-standard crappy FYI
 
8:18 AM
@Ell Doesn't ship to HK
Nevermind that those phones are manufactured 15 km away
 
@buttifulbuttefly funny, HK seems to ship more or less anything out :P
friend at work has one... they are powerful... but a spot large...
 
I wanted to buy Jolla but I'm afraid the company will shut down :w
 
> However it’s only based on OpenGL ES, the Mobile profile of OpenGL. It’s only just been uplifted from OpenGL ES2 to 3 point something in WebGL 2. So when you look at desktop GPUs, they can do a lot more. Wasm could have OpenGL 4
 
White Anglo Saxon Muslim
 
> We’re almost at the second golden age of programming languages, you know, take Rust, Haskell, Idris, and other languages.
 
8:25 AM
C# is all the golden age I need
 
ITT Idris
 
user1804599
Often I wonder whether FP advocates carry crystal balls with them.
 
@CatPlusPlus that's what COBOL programmers said as well
never fixate on a language
 
:ironicat:
 
8:26 AM
there's no irony
I like Haskell, but I'll switch once a better alternative appears
 
> As soon as Unicode accepted the Japanese emojis sets promoted by its local telcos, including the few national flags the argument was dead. In fact there are also lot of redundant emojis from these sets that were accepted or were just minor variants of other existing Dings already encoded. Now we see an explosion of emojis, but less efforts for historic scripts found in our museums and libraries.
 
user1804599
already exists. it's called Go.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ¬_¬
@BartekBanachewicz that doesn't change that you are fixated on Haskell
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nice.
 
user1804599
Serving demands is a good thing. :)
 
8:27 AM
Yeah I totally never use or learn any other languages
never
 
@BartekBanachewicz my weekend still running since 1991
 
It's a sum of language, tools and the ecosystem
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes inb4 unicode 2.0 - now with less emoji crap
 
user1804599
@sehe it must be written in COBOL.
 
@CatPlusPlus boring.pdf
 
8:28 AM
even if we're not "fixated" on a language, everyone still has his favorite
 
@BartekBanachewicz You mean other than Haskell
 
for any reason
 
pragmatic.pdf
 
"Use C# for everything" is fanboyism, not pragmatism FYI
 
He didn't say that
 
8:29 AM
lol
 
he kinda does routinely
 
It's called "generic language"
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
No point in arguing with language fanboys
11
 
8:29 AM
inb4 a total language flame war
 
ironistar
 
:ironicat: intensifies
 
hash tag perl for the win
 
user1804599
{}perl
 
I'll find this thread next time cat absurdly recommends C# again
 
8:30 AM
lol
 
I don't even
 
I could use a coffee
 
like when you absurdly recommended that crappy hosting site?
 
Ell
Absurdly? :P
 
8:31 AM
@CatPlusPlus umad?
 
that escalated banachequickly
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is this not true?
 
Good tooling is v absurd
 
@thecoshman Er. That was released in 1996. Quite the "inb4" you got there.
 
look he keeps going on
like a true fanboy
 
user1804599
8:32 AM
guys guys do you like this
 
user1804599
import mill.log
func main(console: log.Logger): Unit {
    log.info(console, "Hello, world!")
}
 
never stop
 
@rightfold awful
 
user1804599
parsing it almost works huhuehuehuehue :D:D:D:D:D:D DRUGS
 
user1804599
:'(
 
8:32 AM
@rightfold meh
 
how do you set the return code for the programming
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes called it!
 
user1804599
there is no exit status in web browser JS
 
user1804599
so you don't
 
terrible
 
8:33 AM
how many of these do you have
 
@Rapptz I think it's all very true.
 
@rightfold lel
 
don't hack around library features that are there for good reason. It might well involve more than just removing the quotes. Also, remove_all and the erase(remove) variant remove more than just that. — sehe 16 secs ago
 
@rightfold nah, main should not have a logger injected, that's stupid
 
user1804599
why?
 
8:34 AM
because then main isn't really main anymore
 
main is a generic entry point for the program, no? so it's stupid to put something specific like a logger in there.
 
@rightfold why would you import logfiles
 
user1804599
logger is part of the environment in question
 
also func <- ugh. although still a lot better than rust's fn...
 
main is the one place where sluttyness is a good thing
 
user1804599
8:34 AM
that's why it's passed to main
 
ooh, web shit
@Griwes I like rust 'fn'
 
user1804599
If you target the non-web VM then it can take stdout: io.Writer instead, and return an exit status.
 
but equally, I'm sure the grammar could avoid needing any keyword
 
Xeo
Meh, I feel like Rust tries too hard to be brief and concise in that regard
fn, mod, mut
 
@thecoshman It's not worth it
 
8:36 AM
Also TIL 🔰
 
@CatPlusPlus probably not
 
There's a Japanese symbol for newbie.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is 🔰 unicode for "unicode has too much bullshit"?
 
user1804599
uh I made a mistake it's sub, not func.
 
ITT rightfold doesn't know his own language
 
8:37 AM
@rightfold So now it's terribly not portable, good job.
 
@Xeo u, wot, m8
 
@Xeo MUST SAVE KEYSTROKES
 
guys I'm bored
 
@Xeo well, if you think of the functional roots, in maths you see "f(n)" which you would say is 'f of n'
 
user1804599
"subroutine" is a nice compromise between "function" and "procedure".
 
8:37 AM
what would jesus play
 
Crusaders II
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Sure. Just don't have a keyword, in that case. See also: Haskell and other languages.
 
@thecoshman Er.
lolwut
f(x)
 
lol
 
@rightfold it does have the advantage of sounding like it's not much more than a sub section of code
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ don't be all 'right' with me.
 
8:38 AM
I admit to never seeing f(n) in my life
 
also, n = x :P
 
user1804599
Declarations starting with keywords is good.
 
user1804599
I don't see why function definitions should be more special than type or module definitions.
 
¬ <-- perfect keyword for functions :D
 
user1804599
AppleScript has ¬.
 
8:40 AM
oooh
 
user1804599
it's like a trailing backslash in C++
 
oh god... that's so funky looking
that looks like some sort of joke language :\
 
user1804599
what was this language which had a TO keyword for function definitions?
 
mmm those bikes are p cheap
 
apple is a joke
 
user1804599
8:43 AM
it was so you can write "to square(x) do ..."
 
Ven
@rightfold uhhh, :(
seems like a hack
 
user1804599
yes
 
@rightfold square(n) please
 
2meta2quick
 
square(x) be like ...
oooh ¬_¬ I see how it is
 
user1804599
8:45 AM
@thecoshman lol awesome
 
user1804599
square(x) be like x * x
 
a apple walks into a bar
 
Oh that's that reddit story.
I thought you hated reddit.
 
Dunno, just picked random one from manual
 
user1804599
8:47 AM
yes inform7
 
user1804599
that one's nice
 
@thecoshman It doesn't have to.
 
max(a,b) be like on the chance a trumps b offer a other wise offer b
@R.MartinhoFernandes it would have been nice to though, imo. were you the first though, as far as you know?
 
user1804599
Definition: a person is playful:
    if it is slothful, no;
    if it is hostile, no;
    if it is secretive, no;
    if it is smart, yes;
    no.
 
user1804599
this syntax is beautiful
 
8:49 AM
no.
 
@rightfold Thanks for the link. They all seem to be free, that's great! (Why did you remove the message?)
 
@rightfold you do it
@BartekBanachewicz Projection, your honour!
 
@rightfold when creating a user defined type, consider person secretly ... exposing ...
 
@BartekBanachewicz No point in irony on a Monday
 
8:52 AM
how is sehe so wise plz advize
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow because apparently it's not free.
 
Ven
oh my, bartek doesn't want to argue with language fanboys?
 
user1804599
You have to give them all your personal information.
 
Ven
I have a good tweet for bartek :)
 
8:55 AM
@BartekBanachewicz step 1: be sehe
 
Ven
The two most unreadable-code-encouraging languages I know are Perl and Haskell. One I recommend; one I suggest that people skip. Weird.
 
step 2: ???
step 3: profit
 
Ven
of course, no flamewar is needed
 
@CatPlusPlus What's a jerk?
 
@Ven funny
 
8:58 AM
@Borgleader I used an LCD.
 
@Ven absolutely not. He's spot on
 
I bought a small TFT touch screen, but didn't get to play with it yet.
 
@sehe Why would anyone recommend Perl though
 
Ven
@sehe I wouldn't have quoted it if I thought otherwise ;)
 

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