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2:00 PM
99.9% in my work hours
 
@rightfold oh my god
 
I don't know if my brain can take any more of the uni things
 
I so want that
 
if he says something like "oh you were actually supposed to retake the exam" I don't know what I'll do
 
user1804599
Hmm, implementing select in JS shouldn't be that difficult since there's only one thread.
 
2:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz fap furiously while looking at his eyes and then leave
 
I just had enough of this thing and then some
I can't take it all calmly anymore
it's insulting
it's pointless
 
@rightfold (except for network worker threads)
 
it's forcing me to waste my time on purpose just to abide to the unreasonable standards that have no connection to actual knowledge gathering whatsoever
 
user1804599
@Ven should channel operations have their own syntax like c <- x and <-c or should they be function calls like send(c, x) and receive(c)?
 
user1804599
In the latter case the functions have to be known to the compiler.
 
2:04 PM
s/everything bartek said/college sucks/
 
@BartekBanachewicz the point is gathering knowledge and not abiding standards
 
@AlexM. I don't think taking my words out of context is doing them any good
@khajvah well, not on my uni.
 
yeah, mine sucks too
 
Good morning/afternoon/evening/night!
 
@BartekBanachewicz What about under?
 
2:12 PM
what about what
 
> not on my uni
 
It was a joke, nevermind.
 
I really, really had too much of this
it's like not even about exams anymore
I don't have my ~degree~ yet, but I can already say it wasn't worth the stress at all
fuck if I can get a corporate job that pays 20% more thanks to that
seriously, fuck that.
 
Dude, calm down.
Focus.
 
2:14 PM
I'm millimeters away from dropping out at this point
and yes I do realize I'm pretty much at the end, oh so much waste, etc etc
 
the guys I interviewed with recommended I get the degree next year
as in "make sure you do"
 
fuck people who think degree matters
god
 
shit
 
when I told them that I have to go next year for 3 more exams
 
fuck the fact that I need a degree to teach
 
user1804599
2:15 PM
do it
 
at the end of the day
 
user1804599
you already wasted all these years
 
@BartekBanachewicz Don't do that.
 
user1804599
you could've been working instead!
 
because I don't have a degree they'd need to hire me "part time"
and pay 30% of my salary to the state
which is not a tiny sum
 
2:16 PM
@AlexM. I assume that's with or without degree
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am seriously hurting my mental health by all this fighting and stress
 
considering that I'm asking for just as much as any dev who graduated
 
@Jefffrey How do we know you didn't write that after? It's a conspiracy!
 
user1804599
it's summer. there's already enough degrees
5
 
@Jefffrey actual programmers (with a degree) don't pay that tax
it's a special rule to attract more devs in the industry
but even if the rule wasn't there
 
2:17 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Seriously. I have literally btdt. I made that choice and I don't think it was a good one.
 
they'd only have to pay 6% of the salary
 
Woah what.
In your country?
 
which is like a standard for all industries
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why not?
 
@Nooble are you talking to me
 
2:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes do you really think you're worth less as a person because you dropped out?
 
We have to pay 30% on pretty much anything ever to the state AFAIK
 
@AlexM. Yes.
 
Sometimes you get up to 50% or something I think
 
you're better than 100% of people who get a shitty degree at my uni
 
@BartekBanachewicz WTF, is that what you're wondering about?
 
2:18 PM
@Nooble I am glad that you are aware of how the reply button works after all
yes, it's a new law
software devs don't get X% of their salary to the state
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't see a point in degree.
 
I'm guessing that in reality it's a deal made by the software companies w/ the state
 
@BartekBanachewicz what
 
so they can use the X% for themselves or give it to their employees
 
@Jefffrey what what
 
2:19 PM
So... if you drop out of college you are better than 100% of those that graduated?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think it seriously hurt my chances of getting a job initially (I was unemployed for almost a year). That's all.
 
the fuck kind of logic is that
 
There's no risk the dynamic-bitset will explode using this serialization implementation? — MMA 1 min ago
 
@Jefffrey no, if you're a robot, you're better than 100% of those that graduated at my uni.
 
The things you get asked on SO
 
2:20 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes and now it doesn't matter
 
@BartekBanachewicz What about marsupials?
 
right now I got a rejection because I've changed jobs too many times
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hindsight is 20/20. I was lucky. That doesn't make it a good decision.
 
how the fuck would a degree help there
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can't fix that, but you can not make it worse.
 
2:20 PM
the world is doomed anyway
 
@BartekBanachewicz What about "I've changed jobs too many times and dropped out of college"?
 
STOP MAKING SENSE GOD DAMN IT
 
> Taking place between Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, the yet-to-be-named game is not going to be Baldur's Gate III, but the studio says it is "something bigger than we've ever done before."
> "something bigger than we've ever done before."
 
I emailed the tutor of that failed subject, he's a reasonable guy, shouldn't make too many problems hopefully
 
2:21 PM
fucking hell I hope it's not a baldur's gate MMO
 
@BartekBanachewicz Actually. You need the degree to know what you're asking of your pupils. If you don't have the stamina/discipline to adhere to a curriculum...
 
and still waiting for exam resutls
 
Polish spelling
 
I know it's tough, but I honestly think you should make an effort for that final push.
 
of course you should
even I am going to make it
 
user1804599
2:22 PM
@sehe lol
 
and I think what you think sucks etc.
 
you're a much calmer person than me though
well, I'm still there.
I'm still a student
 
@Jefffrey nah you don't lose it all
for some time you're able to continue from where you dropped out
 
user1804599
 
you can even do exotic things like dropping out at uni X, moving to uni Y and equivaHFASJGFKA some of the subjects
I don't know the word
but if you pass the... linear algebra course at the polytechnic, and move to my uni, it will be considered
 
user1804599
2:25 PM
continue
 
and you won't have to retake
 
@AlexM. I lost it all... YEAH, I lost it all, I lost it all, and I lost it now
 
user1804599
take with you
 
Is exposing network-internal, unreachable from the outside IP addresses via globally accessible DNS absolutely terrible?
 
guitar solo
 
2:26 PM
I hate how rightfold splits my beautiful walls of text
 
user1804599
good
 
@BartekBanachewicz where are you planning to study for masters degree?
 
lol
 
user1804599
how rightfold splits my beautiful walls of text hates you too
 
2:26 PM
@khajvah dunno. Maybe the uni I could teach on.
The dean joked it might be possible
I could probably do much more research work there
 
why don't you want to do research in a company
 
companies are evil
 
@AlexM. I love combo breaking people.
 
I'd much rather join a research team at a company than be a prof
you still need the phd
 
cc Richard Stallman
 
2:28 PM
but...
 
I wanna work at NASA
 
@AlexM. not many companies doing actual research
if went for that contract in Warsaw this might be an opportunity
but I really don't want to go :/
 
microsoft
nvidia
amd, intel
 
besides, going there would really put a big question mark at my uni
 
sell you soul to microshit
 
2:30 PM
one of the reasons I chose to apply to NI is also because they have research centers
 
@AlexM. hint: not very easy to join such a team. And hint2: my contract would be for one of the giants.
 
@BartekBanachewicz of course not
but then again phd + research + things like that don't seem like a goal where you're ok with an easy trip
 
@AlexM. what's NI?
 
@AlexM. Crassin has a PhD in CG
 
who's crassin
 
2:32 PM
he's one of the most brilliant CG devs I know about
 
sounds like someone who didn't mind joining such teams to be difficult :P
 
yea
also fun news
 
what's up with smart guys and utterly ugly sites
 
> Last seen Jun 25 at 16:41
someone's back on SO :3
 
@AlexM. I think I heard some of that guy's talks
never met him though
 
2:35 PM
PhD thesis - A Voxel-Based Rendering Pipeline For Efficient Exploration Of Large And Detailed Scenes
I mean how cool is that
 
you should get your PhD in witchering
 
Ven
@rightfold just look at elixir, they went back to send :P. so i'd say real functions
 
user1804599
@Ven yeah I just figured using <- prefix operator won't work well.
 
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x
<-c
 
user1804599
this'd be interpreted as a send operation even though that's likely not what you want
 
2:41 PM
9
Q: Why are Rocket engines at the base of the rocket?

DeepI don't know much about Rockets, but all that I have seen, from the Saturn V to SpaceX's Falcon 9 have the engine at the bottom. Doesn't this make the Rocket really unstable, like balancing a pencil on your finger and trying to lift it up? Why do we not pump the exhaust gases up to the top of the...

 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz that's uni for you vOv
 
lol
 
user1804599
Compiler has to know about the functions, though, since otherwise it can't implement select expressions.
 
> Hi Preet,
I found your information online looking for Android mobile software engineers and thought you would be a great person to send this information to. I thought your experience with Java, Android SDK and mobile development could make you a great fit. It's full time great salary up to $200k + 15% annual bonus + company stock and great benefits.
You know if you're gonna spam, you might as well put a bit of effort into it
like just a tiny bit to make it kind of believable
 
user1804599
@Mr.kbok that answer ain't particularly rocket science.
 
2:44 PM
what, your name is not Preet?
admit it
you write Java
scum
 
how about, what android dev do you know who earns 200k/yr
 
I don't know the country
I don't know anything about that message
except that your name is Preet
PREET
 
US
it was a spam recruiter email for a us job with what I assume are phishing links
 
I'm sure salaries vary per region there too
 
@Mr.kbok there's also some pendulum effect IIRC, basically, it doesn't actually help make the rocket more stable... I'm sure I saw some video to that effect.
 
2:47 PM
a senior dev here normally gets around ~24000 eur/yr
 
@AlexM. where that?
 
Why is SVN logging even a thing.
 
@thecoshman romania
srsly I swear that 10 years from now people here will still ask me where I live
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes to make it enterprise 2.0 ready?
 
All errors are completely nondescript if they should up in the log at all.
 
2:49 PM
programmer salaries are huge
 
@AlexM. where is it?
 
compared to other things
lots of families manage with 2760 eur per year
 
@AlexM. To put it into perspective Bjarne gets a salary of like $300k+ usd
 
user1804599
> First Dutch Airbnb cemetery opens their coffins
 
@Prismatic what perspective to put it in
the only way to put it into perspective is
can the highest paid programmer in Romania afford the same things as the highest paid programmer in the US
 
2:50 PM
@Prismatic I think you need to look up the meaning of that phrase
 
and in general I'd be inclined to say "yes" at least up to a level
 
@AlexM. Sorry I meant that in reference to the email I got, not to the romanian salary
 
strange use of the reply to button
 
This makes no sense. If I add a file in a new folder, commit works fine. If I add a file to an already existing folder, commit fails with "internal server error" as all the information available.
 
I'm sure Bjarne would know how to use the reply to button
 
2:51 PM
200k is probably the high end of SF salaries
very high end actually
 
user1804599
what is SF?
 
user1804599
oh
 
user1804599
Software Francisco
 
user1804599
> We have deposited the check of your fund (7.500,000,00USD) through Western union after our finally meeting regarding your fund, All you will do is to contact Western union director Mr.Chris Anekwe via E-mail (wester_union_money.transfer11@hotmail.fr)
 
user1804599
lol hotmail.fr
 
3:01 PM
@rightfold huh, that's rather exactly 7.5 :P
 
user1804599
> kindly respond with the following information for more details of about the project.!

1. Your full names and address
2. Your private telephone and fax numbers
3. Your private email address
4. Age and profession
 
user1804599
seems legit
 
1. buy burner phone 2. answer mail 3. troll spammer 4. laughs
 
Oh hey, so it appears I'll be giving a functional programming in C++ talk at C++Con.
 
user1804599
 
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3:08 PM
> Lambda as a programming construct
An automotive oxygen sensor (O2 sensor) is also known as a lambda probe, sensor, sond, or sonde.
 
user1804599
THAT IS NOT A PROGRAMMING CONSTRUCT
 
woot
 
@Prismatic Why always put in perspective and never orthographic projection????
#nerdjokes
I like how everyone predicted a terrible day for Euro on the markets but it's actually going to close in the green lol
Finance: nobody has the slightest idea of what is going on.
Stocks did drop a hunch though
 
@buttifulbuttefly someone is playing the long con
 
lol @ the open minded italian jokes
/cc @Jefffrey
> We are open minded. We haven't killed him... Yet.
lol
 
3:31 PM
@thecoshman In finance that's everybody
 
@buttifulbuttefly dat face
 
I suck at CS:GO so much.
 
how long have you been playing?
 
A few days.
 
3:44 PM
hours noob
 
Alex is years noob
 
Oh.
2 hours.
 
one thing that's somewhat constant about people who are good
is that they have over 1k hours played at least in CS GO
you sometimes find great players with very few GO hours
but with 3k+ 1.6
 
I suck at sniping.
 
you suck at everything
hth
 
3:48 PM
@AlexM. Are penises included in "everything"?
 
I have two penises.
 
Why doesn't GitHub's API's repo request include open pulls? Ugh
 
@nabijaczleweli Hmm?
 
Ell
@Griwes nice!
The cppcon thing
Anything in particular about FP?
 
3:55 PM
@Griwes I mean in this kinda request.
 
@Ell Lots of various stuff. Hopefully it got 2 hours, so I might be able to craft it to get to functors and monads.
@nabijaczleweli I don't see a point.
That already looks like a terrible mess, with the information overload.
> "branches_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/nabijaczleweli/Armadillo/branches{/branch}"
 
@Griwes It already includes amount of open issues per repo, amount of open pulls would also be useful
 
This is trivial to construct from other names.
@nabijaczleweli Then it already does too much!
 
@Griwes The URL to pulls is included already
 
@nabijaczleweli Exactly; why would the api send that?
It wastes bandwidth.
@nabijaczleweli You are missing my point.
 
3:59 PM
@Griwes More wasted bandwidth comes from n requests for /repo/pulls
 
That request should only be answered with a list of stuff that is not possible to know beforehand.
 
@Griwes /repos/:owner/:repo/pulls <-- needs specifying the repo
So I need to send repos.length requests, just to get amount of open pulls
 
vOv
Still better than sending all that useless info for someone who doesn't need it.
 
It's inconsistent at that
But v0v, indeed
 
@Griwes yes do monads
I wanna hear
 
4:10 PM
@AlexM. That's the plan, assuming I'm getting the 2 hours I selected as "optimal".
 
user1804599
hi
 
I'd give a talk about FP
everyone is looking at the screen expecting things like y = f(x)
monads
nomads
then the first slide comes up
Fuck Programming
 
lol
I talked about FP several times, it's hard to give people real action items - namely things that are not "learn haskell".
Especially since I'm not a big fan of Haskell myself.
 
> Don't worry password, I'm insecure too.
 
4:15 PM
Yeah, that was an epic tweet
 
user1804599
 
> The owners and operators of Stack Exchange and Stack Overflow have made it amply clear that while we as users and contributors are not permitted to use the site and our audience here to promote our political and social beliefs, they, as the owners may.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Odersky decided to change the name of Scala.
 
Strong dictatorship
Strong patriarchy
Strong parliament
 
@rightfold biggest lie ever.
 
user1804599
4:15 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum The first rule of FP is similar to the first rule of OOP: define "FP".
 
I don't FP but I did gather a bunch of things from when I used scheme
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Well, there are those tiny things, like "keep as much stuff as possible pure", that are worth mentioning, but usually not obvious to someone not doing this kind of things before.
 
@rightfold that's hard, but yeah.
 
45
Q: When are we going to get the old logo back?

Mints97I perfectly understand why SO has the LGBT-rainbow logo right now, and I respect the admins' decision to make it that way. But, seriously, it's been up for, what, three days? I am really sorry if I offended anyone, if I did, I didn't mean to! But I have my reasons for asking this. You see, I ca...

 
lol meta going batshit over the logo
 
4:25 PM
I REALLY NEED OT KNOW WHEN LOGO WILL CHANGE
 
Hey guys
see what happens when you mix social political bs with something unrelated to social political bs?
98
Q: Am I not supposed to mention my gender in a question?

Johnathon SullingerI posted a question on SO not to long ago and noticed that someone modified my post to do nothing but change my saying I'm a .NET guy so not sure how all of these things work together yet. to I'm a .NET person so not sure how all of these things work together yet. Are we not supposed...

You start getting stupid meta questions that, before, didn't seemingly matter, but do now
"omg, i'm a c++ guy, yada dada


edit: sheeeeit i said 'guy', plz dont flag this question"
 
What's going on.
Is Don Larynx a known troll?
 
Hey, thanks for your (questionable) valuable input.
 
@DonLarynx You should be saying that to the people on meta or something. We mix bullshit with everything here.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes
 
4:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes
2 days ago, by Alex M.
I'm surprised don larynx is even here anymore
 
@DonLarynx Good. Now you can shut up.
 
You okay?
 
it's just a crazy asshat who decided to forbid the use of the word "guy" for a day or two
 
@Mr.kbok that's true. I think i've been trolled.
 
user1804599
4:54 PM
I prefer "Don Larnyx".
 
Hai everyone
 
> rightfold
> what r u doin
> rightfold
> stahp
 
@VOTProductions Whats up?
 
@VOTProductions Hello
 
I just came here to say hi to everyone (he lied)
 
4:57 PM
@VOTProductions Who actually was lying?
 
Me
I was referring to myself in third person for some reason
 
@VOTProductions So what's up?
 
Anyway, I am learning SDL, but I have short term memory loss it seems. For instance learning ` gWindow = SDL_CreateWindow( "SDL Tutorial", SDL_WINDOWPOS_UNDEFINED, SDL_WINDOWPOS_UNDEFINED, SCREEN_WIDTH, SCREEN_HEIGHT, SDL_WINDOW_SHOWN );` is quite difficult
Is there an easier way of learning it?
 
@VOTProductions Isn't there some reference documentation for SDL?
 
Just write it down, work with it, use it in various contexts, and you'll remember it with little to no effort
Or you can hook up a cable to your head like in The Matrix and load a driver program for SDL.
 
4:59 PM
I'm using this tutorial which is quite awful at teaching stuff: lazyfoo.net/tutorials/SDL/01_hello_SDL/index2.php
 

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