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5:00 PM
Oh hey Steam sale just started
My spidey sense
Aaand it's dead
 
lol gigabyte posts some pics from their factories
> I hope those workers are all paid well and are not being overworked and treated badly. And why the heck are they tied to the machine? It either appears to be to prevent crime.. however it could also be being used to make sure that they reach quotas and to not be able to take breaks etc. Which would seem to be very bad.... These pictures make me feel worried that Im supporting a company that is using cheap slave labor.
"tied" = having antistatic wrist bands
 
Xeo
lol
 
@AlexM. Come on, that's clearly a troll.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can't spot trolls well on facebook
 
5:06 PM
Who would think they are tied and assume it's to prevent crime?
 
a guy on facebook shrug
he seems to have a pic of a baby on his profile, so I'd guess it's his
what kind of mature person would troll on facebook
 
> pic of a baby
mature person
Yeah, assuming too much there.
Lots of idiots have babies.
 
Nobody sane posts on bookface
 
Ugh, wtf
Flights to Lisbon are more expensive than to Porto o_O
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you okay for money now?
I mean, did your wallet thing get sorted out
 
5:17 PM
I'm getting my ID tomorrow.
Then I can go to the bank and get cash.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh okay
Because I could lend you money, as I'm in Berlin.
 
A few friends have lent me cash so far.
 
But it sounds like you don't need it for many reasons
Goodgood
 
And I've spent it really fast because 45 euros for ID, and I paid dinner for two yesterday because.
I have enough till tomorrow, though.
But thanks.
 
> Recently, Google has revised their plans and now state that they plan to completely remove NPAPI by late 2015.
How do you guys feel about this?
 
5:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Okay. I'm in Prenzlauerberg if something comes up.
 
NPAPI is an architecture Java relies on.
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Your ID is 6FF9F334-105E-11E5-8D5C-5B844B860EDE.
 
inf
@Mysticial You are doing quantitative trading now?
 
@inf Yeah
 
Xeo
Man, steam's so ded
 
inf
5:29 PM
@Mysticial so no more boring android anymore and back to HPC?
 
I always knew there was a possibility that I might get sucked into HFT. But I didn't think it would actually happen - let alone so soon.
 
inf
Nice nice, how do you like it so far?
 
The work is a lot more interesting and along the lines of what I like to do. But the long hours aren't fun.
 
can't you just go home
 
@DonLarynx who cares
 
inf
5:33 PM
@Mysticial Just wanted to ask, how is work-life balance?
 
I don't want or need java in my browsers :/
 
@AlexM. I work 11 hour days right now, and there are still guys who are there when I arrive and are still there when I leave.
 
lol I wouldn't like that
i.e. it would be a deal breaker
i.e. I would leave
 
> However, it's no coincidence that Mysticial was a C++ guy. As HFT expert Matt Davey, chief technology officer at Lab49, a financial services industry consulting firm, explained in an interview: "From a HFT platform perspective, C/C++ is the language of choice due to the latency requirements," he said. "The lower the latency, the more C/C++ is important."
 
5:34 PM
no matter the $$$
 
I wouldn't leave if the job is interesting
 
can't be more interesting than the things I do at home :< at least for me
 
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@Mysticial Oh that sounds bad. I guess the pay is very good at least.
 
the only times I really enjoyed staying longer at work was when I was doing stuff like the jni wrapper
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Meh. That sounds tiring.
 
5:37 PM
@inf It's more of a matter of reprioritizing myself. I'm only productive for about 9 hours in the day. So staying the extra 2 hours doesn't get anymore work done. But I don't want to be the last to arrive and first to leave. So I just need to do some of the stuff that I normally do at home to work (like reading news while I'm waiting for the build).
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Meh appearances.
 
I'm the only guy in the building arriving at 12 lol
don't give a shit
I'm always the last to leave for obv reasons
 
Xeo
I arrive sometime between 8:30 and 10:00, and leave sometime between 16:30 and 18:00
 
@AlexM. Yeah, I hold similarly weird hours. 10-7 is pretty normal.
 
while the offset schedule is more comfy for me (I wake up at 11 after all)
it's also safer since for some reason
people seem to do their work mostly a while before leaving
because they don't mind staying late (fuck if I ever understand why)
so most people come to me when I'd be supposed to go home had I a normal schedule
like SHIT WE NEED THIS CAN YOU HELP
sure bro gonna be here 3 more hours anyway, I can help
this is the first question I ask people when I apply
"Can I work from 12 to 20?"
 
5:42 PM
@AlexM. There are guys here younger than me that are probably making more than a million USD a year. I try not to think about it though.
 
thinking about the people who are richer than you ain't healthy anyway
 
@Mysticial Hm. Some sort of very formulaic performance-based pay?
 
Which is why I don't. But it's hard to avoid it at times when it pops up in conversations.
 
@Jefffrey I assumed electric smelters for on-site smelting
 
inf
@Mysticial You work a small private company or a bigger one?
 
5:45 PM
@Mysticial I try to avoid convos like that
I'm always paranoid about being paid less than the average
it's almost a bad as my other problem
 
Beginning power down of our Oregon data center. It's time for #milehighops.
 
during tests and stuff I get this sort of fear of not being able to solve the problem
and my brain shuts down
I think it happens with other things too hmm
I had some episodes where I thought about answers to questions on SO but didn't post them because I had some fear that they were wrong
 
isn't the average like 20 euros
 
Hello folks
Just saw @StackedCrooked's post on reddit about Modules in C++17. Mind giving me a brief overview of what a module is?
 
It's actually @AndyProwl's.
 
5:57 PM
I just took the credit.
and the internet points
 
Free karma is best karma
 
Btw, does mooingduck come around anymore?
 
We are now powering down our databases in the DR data center. This will be the final notice of the powerdown unless we run into issues.
 
Ok, so I used to be able to read these, but I've been out of C++ for a while now. Can I get a tldr, what the fuss about modules is about?
 
6:11 PM
in your defense, it required me to change my initial google keywords to find it :P
so it wasn't the first hit
 
I did some inital searching and came up empty, then came here
Plus, I recognized @StackedCrooked from the reddit post
 
you can also look at D
it has modules
and IIRC the focus was on overcoming the issues of C++'s lack of it
I didn't look at the proposal carefully but from what I skimmed, it resembles this a bit
or more
 
So,
This is similar to python import statements?
like, import system?
 
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@StackedCrooked do you need any special kernel modules to get Coliru to run?
 
no
you need ruby
 
6:23 PM
I always wondered
 
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How does sandboxing work?
 
did D ever influence the C++ standard in any way
 
ranges probably
 
like how boost does
 
everything influences everything at some level
 
6:24 PM
I meant something more directly
like "D has this interesting feature, we can add it too"
 
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@AlexM. maybe static assert.
 
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Although that may have come from Boost instead.
 
I always thought static assert came from BOOST_STATIC_ASSERT
 
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@StackedCrooked Is the magic in setsid?
 
@DonLarynx Nobody cares about applets anymore
Besides they can implement PPAPI
NPAPI is 20 year old shit and needs to die
 
6:38 PM
did you guys ever wonder if there's a point in commenting on stuff like news
like
 
There's not, hth
 
I see news like "game X got released"
then someone comments "Y is still better"
and that's it
nothing else happens
0 effect on anything
essentially just someone saying something
 
Because you think most of the rest of the comments actually affect something?
 
@CatPlusPlus yep but on a personal level it has to have a point
since the people comment
 
grr look at me im so angry
about video games
People are dumb
Internet makes you dumb
etc
 
6:40 PM
@Jefffrey the rest of the comments are still comments, I didn't discriminate
anyway, I was reminded of this when I saw that 3d printed mouse news
this was one of the first comments
> Logitech MX518 is still the best mouse ever made ^^
there's always people commenting with these and nothing ever happens
 
inf
@AlexM. it's simply true
 
even if it is
is there some name to this thing where you don't care that your opinion doesn't exactly change anything but you want it to be heard anyway
how many things would we do if we were restricted to things that have effects on stuff only
so many questions
 
I HAVE OPINIONS ON STUFF
 
@CatPlusPlus OMG SO EXCITED TELL ME ABOUT THEM
 
lol
 
6:47 PM
no
 
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@rightfold I loved that feed.
Trying to figure out how you would pass a range of std::istream_iterators constructed from std::cin into an algorithm while limiting them to only accept N inputs.
Example: const int sum(std::accumulate(std::istream_iterator<int>(std::cin), std::istream_iterator<int>(), 0)); but only accept 2 inputs
 
7:07 PM
@caps You hear this noise? This is the scream of iterator ranges being non-composable.
 
@milleniumbug I think you have to resort to a for loop (or for just two items and less reusable code, two reads from std::cin)
 
Only things after quick Google are:
1. Make a counter (not sure if applicable to your example)
2. Copy into temporary with `std::copy_n`
 
Xeo
Oh man, trying to play the steam summer game is so useless
 
how does the game work?
 
Xeo
not
 
7:11 PM
it looked complicated and I don't have time to read all that text
 
Xeo
it's a kind of cookie clicker, really
 
@nabijaczleweli std::vector<int> a; std::copy_n(std::istream_iterator<int>(std::cin), 2, std::back_inserter(a)); const int sum(std::accumulate(a.begin(), a.end(), 0));
Awesome.
 
@Xeo meh, I'll pass
spent all of the money I had to spend on games this month anyway
had to pay like 30% of my paycheck to re-retake exams lol
 
Xeo
it's increadibly laggy anyways
 
7:21 PM
I feel like there should be a way to compose that so that the vector<int> a can be dropped, by passing the return value of copy_n as one of the parameters to accumulate, but I'm not seeing how.
 
@caps Doubt it, std::back_insert_iterator's operator*() is a no-op
AKA, it's pretty useless
 
@nabijaczleweli Well you wouldn't be using a back_insert_iterator if you were cutting the vector out of the equation.
You could probably hand-roll an iterator that would do the right things.
 
Xeo
hahahahaha
GTAV has a -25% discount, and ends up being just ~5eur cheaper than normal, because they increased the price from 60 bucks to 74
 
@caps Hand-rolling an iterator is not an optimal thing to do, most of the time
 
@nabijaczleweli Oh, I agree.
It would make the solution not stdlib "pure" also.
 
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7:26 PM
@Xeo It's a good idea to do that.
 
Btw, how close is the latest GCC to the C++14 std?
 
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A lot of people are idiots and buy everything that has a discount.
 
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So it's easy to drain their wallets with tricks like these.
 
> ----74,98€----
56,23€
fuck it
did rockstar think people wouldn't notice that no game costs 75 eur
 
7:38 PM
@AlexM. Yes. And, admittedly, a lot of them didn't.
Plus, it's still ~5EUR cheaper
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Well, it's a kind of mixed thing. They bundled it with the megacash card
 
yea seems you can't buy GTA V without it for a discount lol
gta v = 59,99€
way to minimize the effect of a discount lol
give players DLC and only discount the bundle
and it's not even content DLC just a way to convert $$$ to ingame money
 
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what the fuck
 
user1804599
you can't change your steam email address without installing steam
 
> Buy Blitzkrieg Anthology 1,24€
now there's a must buy
 
user1804599
7:47 PM
Can you play games you downloaded on Steam without having Steam installed?
 
no
 
user1804599
Or download games at all without installing Steam?
 
user1804599
Ugh.
 
Doubt it
 
what the hell do you think this is
gog?
nice, I had 1.7 eur in my steam wallet
didn't even have to spend money from my account for blitzkrieg
 
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7:49 PM
> System Requirements
512 MB RAM
1GB HD space
 
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if you don't have that you can't install most of steam games anyway
 
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I hate installers that have to be installed.
 
user1804599
What is this? Adobe?
 
user1804599
Fuck DRM. Piracy it is.
 
7:54 PM
you're so edgy
 
Xeo
@rightfold wat
 
user1804599
You can change your user name and a lot of preferences and other shit, but not your email address.
 
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I'm too lazy to install a VM so I'll just leave the email address for now.
 
@melak47 i care. my professor has a slide where we click on the example and it won
t load
because of non-support for java!
 
why VM
you can install steam on any os
 
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8:05 PM
Because I am afraid that fully deleting Steam will not be easy.
 
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And I don't want Steam to have access to any of my files.
 
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So I need to run it in a highly constrained environment.
 
if there's one kind of porn I'd be scared to see, it's definitely rightfold's so I'm on your side on this one
don't let steam see that
 
Wow, isthereanydeal says a lot of my games are on sale right now.
Hmm...
 
@Jefffrey what are you doing today?
i am scraping silicone out of my kitchen desk
i botched it first time :/
i want to see a factory
 
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8:07 PM
Apparently you can also not set who may see which games you have bought.
 
lol
I don't think you should use steam tbh
 
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Me too.
 
you obviously don't need anything that's there
 
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I'll play Minecraft and Factorio instead.
 
I broke Travis.
WTF
Now it decided to run the build twice on the same machine, right after it said, that everything is alright & built
 
8:57 PM
So, Jurassic World? Not that bad for a summer blockbuster. It's dumb, it's loud, but it's also fairly competently executed. While it's still not nearly as good as Jurassic Park, it's still better than the two other films in the franchise, and is overall a pretty entertaining romp.
 
> competently executed.
no
 
I saw it, you didn't.
 
i saw it
i powerhammered it too
 
Xeo
So, I swapped Stella and Taiga for funsies. Taiga's in Stella's room, and Stella gets to explore the rest of the flat.
And now I notice how loud Taiga is when jumping up or down something. In comparison, I can barely hear Stella do the same.
 
Taiga is fat
4
 
user1804599
9:04 PM
Taiga is a biome in Minecraft.
 
Xeo
@FlorianMargaine Nah, according to the vat she's at a good weight.
I think she's simply not very... graceful with her jumps
 
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s/vat/fat/
 
should I give in to factorio's hype?
 
@Xeo (Xeo says, as they watch Taiga make a dent of considerable size in the floor)
 
lol
 
9:16 PM
@Xeo lol gta
Also lol I clicked that 'play game' button, but it errored out and I started doing something else and forgot about it
But apparently I have level 10 now or whatever
I don't even know what this does
 
Xeo
yeah, you passively play
 
aaah
found a new way to game the system in settlers 2 to train up my whole army in 1 building
 
> Click monsters to attack
COOKIE CLICKER
I think my game is still in some fucked up state because nothing's happening
Errors, errors, errors
 
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@sehe how often do you write parsers in C++?
 
Oh great, @rightfold will be not recognizable for the next few days.
 
9:31 PM
@rightfold real ones or just on SO?
Just on SO, about 3 per week
 
user1804599
Real ones.
 
In real life, about 2 serious once for a serious project and a handful ad-hoc jobs (just because I'm too lazy to meddle with sappy regex etc)
(Quoting from my last 2 c++ projects)
 
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nice
 
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I'm gonna sleep.
 
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Goodbye.
 
9:32 PM
That descalated quickly
Sleep well
 
Use the sleep, @rightfold
 
@rightfold Night
 
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
 
^ I was waiting for this
 
Me too. Good timing though
 
9:34 PM
My dad went "cleaning" the house yesterday.
 
Thriller
 
He threw out all the ethernet cables thinking they were phone cables.
I'm in a frantic search for some Cat6.
 
Ven
@rightfold that was a "go" pun >_<
 
@Nooble lol
 
@Nooble that is not cleaning, pa!
Cleaning is when you remove dirt and clutter
 
9:35 PM
Hey, I have vector<Point> sortPoints(vector<Point2f> unsorted) { ... } function and when I call it with Point2f rect_points[4]; array it's not working.. any suggestions? I am newbie :)
 
@unixarmy How's reading your C++ book going?
 
+1
 
I'm currently very confused, looking at that sentence
 
In other news my school is throwing out a bunch of old PCs in favor of some iMacs.
 
Well, I have some experience with C and it's a bit difficult to understand all C++ concepts now... I just started one C++ book. :)
 
9:37 PM
Saw a bunch of machines out near the garbage disposal in the back entrance of the school.
If those are still there tomorrow, I'm looting it.
Precious DDR2.
 
@unixarmy forgot everything you knew about C, it won't help you
 
@unixarmy I have a template <typename...> struct X { std::tuple<int, bool> foo(double const) { } }; and when I try to use it X::foo(std::cout) it's not working. Any suggestions? I'm an expert :)
2
 
@unixarmy What's the title of the book? Make sure it's not by Schildt
 
@unixarmy C also uses types. And you also need to match the type of arguments
Nothing changed
Essentially
@Nooble And maybe even some Cat6
 
@sehe :P
 
9:40 PM
 
Ah. The whoosh educational kit
 
nice
in a technical sense
 
@sehe cough References cough
References are just fancy pointers, though
 
Well. The types of parameters still need to match. Regardless of whether said type is expressible in C
 
@unixarmy You can do it, I believe in you.
 
9:46 PM
How to fix this?
Maybe with operator.?
 
sacrifice the goat of cohesion!
 
@Nooble Stuff the RAM. Get the disks and hope there's something on there to blackmail the staff with.
 
Do you care more about elegant design or saving 50 bytes
 
Actually using a magic value to indicate "not-set" is even more space-efficient :P
 
@MartinJames Mwahahaha.
 
9:50 PM
@StackedCrooked if you do, answer this question:
7
Q: Create a optional tuple

Othman BenchekrounI don't understand why there is no optional tuple, and I mean by that, something like this ; optional<int,string,char> that would combine an optional int, optional string and optional char. You can think of it like an optimized std::tuple<boost::optional<T>...> where the booleans used by the op...

 
@sehe I've had this idea before.
 
I know
Many many many people have. Game developers, mainly :/
 
@Nooble If you find staff email archives, don't forget to get a fluffy white cat before sending your demands through some anonymous server in the Ukraine.
 
this song makes me happy for an unknown reason
it sounds happy-ish
 
@MartinJames I feel evil.
 
9:53 PM
@Nooble You are evil
All of us are
 
@Nooble Embrace your dark side:)
 

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