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Ell
10:00 AM
it was something like this
I said that object A and object B must be different objects, normal and weight are both acting on the spaceship
so they cannot be paired
it was a weird question
 
That normal force is the reaction to the contact force that the spaceship applies on the surface due to its weight.
 
So. I received this curious invite on LinkedIn
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes apparently not, according to this exam paper :L
 
@Ell Er, why not?
That contact force is not the weight.
It's applied on the surface.
 
Ell
Oh I see
 
10:03 AM
@Ell rigid bodies woooo
anyways
 
The normal force in that drawing is the contact force that the surface applies on the spaceship.
 
Ell
Right
which isn't equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to the weight
 
It just happens that in this case the normal component is all there is.
@Ell Oh, yes, it is.
 
@Ell it directly opposes the weight
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes well this exam question said it wasn't
 
10:05 AM
@Ell No, it did not.
 
Ell
yes, it did
I will show you it when it gets released vOv
 
It is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction, but that's incidental. It doesn't mean it is the reaction force that the third law of motion mentions.
 
Ell
right, it's not the reaction force
 
The reaction force to the weight of the spaceship is the weight of the planet. The reaction force to the contact force the spaceship applies on the planet by virtue of being in contact is the contact force the planet applies on the spaceship, which is just that normal component.
 
Ell
Yeah
 
10:07 AM
F=ma, there is no a(cceleration)
 
That's what the first and second laws (i.e., not the third) are about. Thanks.
 
Hey guys can somebody else verify that waitable timer doesn't work from boost asio
 
I don't think the gravitational pull of object A towards B can be called a reaction force to gravitational pull of B towards A
 
@VermillionAzure Why should we verify that you fucked up?
 
@sehe ???
I'm simply asking if anybody else has had the problem
 
10:08 AM
@BartekBanachewicz It is exactly what it is. Forces always come in pairs.
 
user1804599
@sehe XD
 
@VermillionAzure At the very least you could assume it's not broken on every platform in the most elementary use. Things tend to get noticed
@rightfold Erm...?
 
@sehe Well I just want to use boost::asio::waitable_timer
I know that the basic version is there
 
user1804599
dat text
 
Yeah. I sent him a reply
 
10:09 AM
It's just that the plain one isn't there and I can't really find much material on how to make it just work
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol. One of the commenters is right though, probably not so funny if you understand German
 
> the plain one isn't there
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz it is :)
 
of course. Whatever that means
 
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A: A force opposing Gravity

Emilio PisantyYes, every gravitational force in Newtonian mechanics has an equal and opposing force, and it usually acts on other mass. More specifically, every two pairs of masses feel a gravitational force that's proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of their ...

 
10:10 AM
I'm having trouble typing because my irises are maximally dilated
 
> error: waitable_timer is not a member of boost_asio
and then
 
@VermillionAzure Start by telling what you want to do
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was only getting at "reaction" part
 
@sehe I want to complete this example
using a waitable_timer so that I don't have to use Boost's own timer
we have <chrono>
 
> To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts
 
10:11 AM
@VermillionAzure chrono doesn't have timers
 
So I wanted to use waitable_timer which uses <chrono>
 
Xeo
Using the wrong version of Boost?
 
@Xeo It's the latest one
 
Xeo
(As in, the include paths point at the wrong one)
 
@Xeo checked that already
@sehe uhh....
 
10:12 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok
 
"Action" and "reaction" are just terms that mean "the force that we care about most" and "the other force".
 
@sehe not a timer but they have clocks
 
different thing.
 
It's just arbitrary.
 
Ell
Oh well. 65% was an A last year
I think I got above that
 
10:13 AM
@sehe arbitrary to implement a timer
Strange. I should post a question.
 
Right
> arbitrary
?!
Either you be accurate about what you want, or you accept that I don't waste my time trying to figure out what the hell you mean.
 
@sehe I want to switch out waitable_timer for deadline_timer in the link I gave you
It's literally hello world with a timer
 
Ell
have you googled?
 
@Ell yeah
the SO answer pertains more to if you didn't use it
 
Don't get mad. You're saying things for the first time (or repeating things. Which might suggest I didn't get it, but doesn't make it so)
 
Ell
10:14 AM
what have you tried so far?
 
and the Boost.Asio docs are pretty plain
 
@VermillionAzure ok
 
@BartekBanachewicz Granted, "reaction" is a bit of a misnomer because it carries additional connotations in informal speech.
 
> the SO answer
I'm lost. I don't know how you can skip over all these assumptions
 
@Ell I tried 1) Googleing 2) finding SO answer 3) Finding Boost docs 4) Updating Boost
 
Ell
10:15 AM
@VermillionAzure I mean in your code
what code have you tried so far
 
^^
 
@Ell wikipedia mentions this exact scenario here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
 
@Ell ...
 
Ell
> students tend to apply Newton's Third Law to pairs of 'equal and opposite' forces acting on the same object.[4][5] This is incorrect;
 
10:16 AM
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Q: Difference between `deadline_timer`and `waitable_timer` in `boost asio`

ALittleDiffTo expire a timer in 5 seconds, is there any practical difference between these two? Is any one preferable(performance, resource, etc.) to the other for this case? [Option 1] deadline_timer: boost::asio::deadline_timer timer(io_service); timer.expires_from_now(boost::posix_time::seconds(5)); ...

 
Ell
^yeah this is what I wrote
 
Pretty simple
 
Ell
but it was a 2 mark question so I probably only 1 of 2 marks
 
No
The action-reaction pair for The force of gravity on the apple by the earth is hence The force of gravity by the apple on the earth;
 
@chmod711telkitty ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
That makes so much sense now
 
10:18 AM
Yahoo Answers.
Amazing.
 
Ell
oh well nothing I can do to gain that extra mark now
 
also our tech lead posted Andy's video to our slack
he also stalled a PR for two days because he didn't like one file name
 
Ell
I think I can drop about 16 marks and still get an A*
 
@VermillionAzure is it annoying when people try to move from "rant mode" to "trouble shooting" by using facts and context?
 
Yay for spending all last night voiding myself of dinner :-(
 
10:22 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Kitty is good for something!
 
@thecoshman :(
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz holy fuck
 
@sehe I was expecting some sort of the usual bullshit.
 
next time we should play at hard at multiplayer
when get more people
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz lol wow
 
user1804599
10:23 AM
that's what you get for polluting the world you anti-eco capitalist scum.
 
fuck eco solutions
soid fuel master race
 
Ell
booo, solar panels FTW
 
yeah and tell me how much pollution you generate by making all those batteries
 
Ell
I don't make that many batteries
my factory isn't particularly large :L
I'll show you
 
good luck surviving an attack at night then
 
Ell
10:25 AM
I got a bit bored of it
 
@sehe ha, I have found you!
 
Ell
Oh for the accumulators. I have plenty
I guess I polluted for that
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk I wasn't hiding!
 
@Ell of course you did
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk I thought we already connected earlier. But seems I forgot
 
10:26 AM
@sehe why so hostile
gee i'm just trying to compile a hello world example for boost asio
 
Why so impatient/ranting?
 
@sehe how am I ranting really?
 
@VermillionAzure Sit back. Notice the pattern in your exclamations
 
@sehe It required a bit of deductive work.
 
I'd show you what me and jeff have so far but I have only an outdated save at my gdrive I think
or maybe
 
Ell
10:27 AM
 
19 mins ago, by VermillionAzure
Hey guys can somebody else verify that waitable timer doesn't work from boost asio
From the get go
 
@Ell Gee, you also do greenwashing in a game?
 
trolls be trolling
 
actually my last autosave cloud setup worked
deleted my previous saves but I backed them up
so I have our factory here
 
10:27 AM
@sehe is that a rant?
that's pretty straight forward
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes haha
It's fun
I have 8 oil refineries, they probably pollute a lot
 
@VermillionAzure well. It's pretty straightforward if boneheaded is straightforward. Seems I'll leave you in the capable hands of the other assistants on duty.
 
Ell
Iron is my bottleneck atm
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk oh. Sorry. I thought I sent an invite around this time (did I? I might have forgotten)
 
wow
Boost doesn't configure the jam file correctly for gcc
 
10:33 AM
@sehe I think no. Anyway, it was interesting to gather pieces of puzzle together.
 
@sehe btw I think it's because of a dependency on another boost library sorry
 
Ell
Oh wait I do use boilers in this factory
with solid fuel
 
@Ell this is what we have with jeff after 5-6 hours
 
@BartekBanachewicz yaw Barrrrrtek
wut u think about R
 
10:34 AM
I should totally change my nick to Barrrtek /cc @Jefffrey
@VermillionAzure it exists?
 
@BartekBanachewicz so nothing then?
 
@VermillionAzure yes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Holy shit
 
@BartekBanachewicz k
 
You really went ahead
 
10:35 AM
@Jefffrey what?
@Jefffrey I took like 20 minutes after you left tops
 
damn i don't spend my time well enough these days
u r motivating me to create a game
 
I only really finished the loop
 
Ell
My train is no longer bringing in iron
for some reason
 
gah get your exams sorted out
 
Also anybody feeling a little musky today? ibtimes.com/…
 
Ell
10:36 AM
hmm yes
that is a greater priority
bye !
 
@Jefffrey anyway the cog station is functional already but it needs an unload point
 
Also THQ is dead
 
hm idgi why people insist on transporting ore
 
what are you guys playing?
 
Factorio
 
10:48 AM
Wow, it's Thursday already.
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk sounds so mysterious:) I hope you didn't uncover any embarassing old youtube performances of me :)
 
@sehe Not yet! ;)
 
uhoh :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what
 
Just take a moment to think of the developer currently trying to uninstall Norton Anti-virus from a relative’s new PC.
 
10:51 AM
I was expecting to have some more week left.
 
Oops. https://twitter.com/NortonSupport/status/608948809058504704
 
Xeo
hahah
 
@Etienne do you know a trope for when a narrator interrupts the telling of a story to talk about the story itself (i.e. going meta)?
 
yay
did the basic boost asio example
night
 
Author here, binding some memory to a slot is a command in vulkan: vkCmdBindDescriptorSets(). Probably a pointer behind the scenes though. — yuumei 18 mins ago
@Bartek
 

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