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@BartekBanachewicz that you just can't hide it?
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh wow, that's a real thing.
 
> Music by Ramin Djawadi
 
I thought it was just some fan art
 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
NERDGASM
 
8:03 AM
amazing
 
Ven
you mean winrar
fial
 
you know what
I hate Mark Downs
Markdown syndrome
 
Ven
that was bad
 
I've realized that if I multitask at work I can double slack off
using one screen for dilbert and the other for hearthstone
 
Ven
8:09 AM
people playing hearthstone...
 
@Ven what about them?
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz I don't get how they're not bored to death
 
it's a fun game vOv
especially when playing aggro mage
 
Ven
YMMV I guess...
I can't play stuff that's not realtime
 
you're less of a thinker I see
 
Ell
8:11 AM
Hearthstone sux IMHO
 
@buttifulbuttefly He's not that bad. Easier to read then JSON
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz oh, I totally am, but in realtime. I love age of empires/age of mythology/starcraft
 
AoE is like 10 times slower than starcraft
the thing about SC is that I can't play it for more than hour or two
it's just too physically demanding
 
Ven
why?
 
@BartekBanachewicz you're a slow thinking I see
 
Ven
8:13 AM
what's physically demanding?
 
@Ven thinking :P
 
Ven
@thecoshman heh :)
 
keeping 120+ apm while making strategic decisions
 
I like the example for merging two arrays in the coroutine docs.
 
Ven
keeping 120+apm really is easy to me, because I played osu! for 2 years
 
8:13 AM
So simple yet so cool.
 
Ven
so really, keyboard things... Not physically demanding anymore
 
well, apm != eapm
 
Ven
sure
point is, I can keep hitting my keyboard as heavily as I want without noticing
(except for RSI, obviously)
 
don't pro SC players run at like 240ish apm?
something crazy like that iirc
 
@StackedCrooked That's really nice
 
8:15 AM
@thecoshman sometimes, yes.
 
Ven
@thecoshman much more than that
koreans will average 300apm
 
Ell
APM?
 
Ven
Actions Per Minutes
People like Losira will average 600apm
 
How many gfpl though? (girlfriends per life)
 
I've got a colleague preaching for the use of coroutines as our IPC mechanism. I hope we will embrace it soon
 
8:15 AM
@Ven that's impossible
 
my iphone repair kit has arrived, the whole $2.97 of it!
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz why would it be?
 
now undone the screws
 
Ell
@Rerito they are great
 
because there are limits to human ability vOv
AI playing like a human goes up to 1100-1200
 
8:16 AM
@Ell I've not used them so far but I read about them and yeah it seems really great
 
either way, strategy and macro are way more important in beginner play
 
Ven
Osu! players can "stream" up to 1k+ for more than 10 minutes
 
@Ven his left hand seems to be a separate organism with its own brain
 
8:19 AM
@Xeo I don’t know why I wrote a demo, but I did.
 
@Ven beh, macro-ed mouse clicks
 
Ven
@khajvah yeah, that's the same for osu! player actually
@BartekBanachewicz yes. everyone should do that :)
 
@khajvah inb4 sex joke
 
@Ven That's not how I count APM
I count it at game input, not executed game actions
 
Ven
that's the difference between APM and EAPM
 
8:20 AM
no.
EAPM are direct actions that weren't wasted.
 
Ven
yes
if you cancel something because you clicked somewhere else, it wasn't executed
 
they can still trigger 100s of clicks in mouse
 
Ven
...like he does
but spamming control group isn't very interesting
 
yeah, I could easily have 1000 APM for hours, all by pressing one key and letting some epic marco script run away
 
so, a tap of a button that sends a thousand mouse clicks is just one EAPM
 
8:21 AM
you count user inputs
 
Ven
oh, no no no
 
yes
 
and they really don't much higher than constant 200-240 peaking 300 in fights
 
Ven
they're not allowed to have this kind of macro
the only thing he could do is bind a key to do a mouse click, but not more than one
 
8:22 AM
whatever
this is irrelevant nonsense unless you're a pro
 
Ven
that's the macro rules
 
maybe on tournaments
also noone forbids you to use wheels
 
Ven
sure, it's not like average player reach 1k apm anyway
 
it's also not the point of the game.
the minimum gains over the opponents you can get that way don't matter at this level of play
 
Ven
that's irrelevant
 
8:24 AM
IOW, an average player would hardly benefit from having 1000apm
 
Ven
we're not talking about what's useful for the game, just stupid spamming :P
they don't benefit having 1k apm
 
the pros get advantage because of high action counts vOv
keeping vision for 2 seconds more, say, can mean a lot on a pro level
 
Ven
not at 1k, it's just control group spamming
 
told you already no one really does 1k
 
Ven
I posted a video with a guy at 1.3k
 
8:25 AM
@Ven you seem to be self-contradictory today
 
Ven
@Griwes hah well
guess I'll drop it there then
 
Also I can't play SC on my phone and there's that
 
Ven
@Griwes ("today"? Like I usually make more sense that rightfold! ha!)
 
@Griwes Griwes please don't bring logic into this room thank you
3
 
> make more sense that rightfold
as if that was any achievement
 
8:28 AM
pleonasm
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz "Like" at the beginning :)
 
ahaahaha
lmao just had the best game at hearthstone
mage vs mage, he plays Mana Wyrm, I play two of them, he plays knife juggler, I play mirror image and arcane missiles. The missiles kill his juggler, I kill his wyrm and he surrenders at me having 3/3 and 3/2 drakes and two 0/2 taunts, where he is empty on 27 hp :D
lucky draw admittedly
 
Ven
seems like luck is a big part of the game
 
it is
a lot of cards have outright random effects
 
What's the difference between outright random and plain random, though.
 
Ell
8:35 AM
980Ti costs around $800
Hearthstone is pay2win I heard
 
no it isn't
 
@Ell Guessing you heard that from losers!
 
Ven
can't you buy better cards with real money?
or get more chances to have better cards with real money
 
Nothing you can't get without money and time.
 
Ven
sure, but that doesn't mean it's pay-to-win
 
8:37 AM
you can even craft cards in HS
definitely not pay to win
 
Ven
if you have to spend hours doing something OR you can just pay money for it, that's definitely still a pay-to-win. Or pay-to-win-more
 
@Ell you've heard wrong.
 
@Ven lol
 
Ven
@buttifulbuttefly see my following message.
 
8:38 AM
@Ven I think you forgot a "not"
 
@Ven hardly "better". Cards for advanced decks require even more skill typically and game knowledge.
 
the point of free to play model is that you can trade your time for something you'd have to pay for
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz ..."sure".
 
@ScarletAmaranth that assumes having a "better" deck will make you stronger
 
Ven
@buttifulbuttefly I don't think I did
 
8:39 AM
I could give you a pro-level deck and you probably wouldn't do much better than on a basic one
 
Then you don't make sense
2 mins ago, by Ven
sure, but that doesn't mean it's pay-to-win
 
@BartekBanachewicz I know, I play HS daily
 
Well yeah I'm arguing the contrary
 
I crafted a deck right now for about 500 dust
it should technically allow me to get to at least 10-5 rank
 
Ven
8:39 AM
@buttifulbuttefly wrong message answered, then. I was thinking of the following one, my bad
 
I can't get out of 16-15
go figure
 
You probably suck!
 
go facehunters
 
@buttifulbuttefly precisely
and the more you get into the game the less straightforward the tactics become
you start playing more on the edge of losing because that's the only way you can compete
 
there are a lot of stick tapes inside of iphone 6
no wonder apple does not want you to take the case off ...
 
8:41 AM
or alternatively, you just play a facehunter
 
QtCreator's auto-completion treats foreach as a keyword. I wonder where it comes from.
 
then there's no need to think, you just point stuff at face
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh come on it's just rank 15 lol
 
doesn't matter anymore that much; nowadays, you get handlocks at rank 25 anyday
 
I'm lucky today
look which round it is
 
8:43 AM
holy nova
 
@BartekBanachewicz Go back to your job! :)
 
I blasted everythin on round 2 because I had 1-mana spells that become 0
and fed up my mana wyrm
win in round 5.
 
Are you seriously playing at work? lol and I thought I was bad for SOMETIMES CHECKING THE NEWS
 
@buttifulbuttefly You can play on phones now, sneakier this way :D
 
My Potato is not poweful enough
 
8:47 AM
@buttifulbuttefly we're a gamedev company after all vOv
 
keyword: dev
 
@buttifulbuttefly stop reminding me about potato empires not being finished :/
 
never heard of that before what is it
 
@buttifulbuttefly I'm coding in the meantime, hearthstone isn't that engaging
 
Ven
@buttifulbuttefly ...and what about lounging all day? :P
 
8:47 AM
@buttifulbuttefly fucker
 
@Ven allowed because otherwise who would clear all the C++ doubts?
 
Ven
b.atch.se/posts/constexpr-counter claims that "there is no way to form a pointer-to-const-T" but the code compiles without using the alternative.
 
> internal compiler error: in tsubst, at cp/pt.c:12022
 
nice file names there luc
might want to save a few more characters
 
Time to try -freport-bug
@buttifulbuttefly I’m not in charge of them.
 
8:52 AM
Pull requests welcome!
Also I just noticed the line number.
 
Ven
just cat files \w/
 
@buttifulbuttefly One of (IIRC) .NET's GC files had like 35k lines...
 
Did it garbage collect itself?
 
Ven
@Griwes it's the only GC file, but yes, 35.6k
 
Well, that’s disappointing. It saves the preprocessed source in a file and that’s it? cc @Rapptz
 
8:55 AM
@buttifulbuttefly It should have.
 
it looks so easy if you have the tools
how much do they charge if you do it in apple?
 
fuck me
 
51 mins ago, by chmod 711 telkitty
my iphone repair kit has arrived, the whole $2.97 of it!
$2.97 for tools
 
9:07 AM
lol
 
@buttifulbuttefly …but you were the one mentioning them, so doesn’t that apply to you?
 
No reverse psychology allowed!
 
That means it is!
 
@LucDanton I mean if the GCC devs ask for it then it must be helpful. Not sure.
 
Is this simple enough? Evidently not
 
9:10 AM
Why does the initialization not work for the dude?
 
Aggregates cannot have base classes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ^ That
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes And you can only initialize aggregates that way?
 
@Rapptz The thing is, if I’m reducing a testcase either I have the program ready (when reducing by hand) or it’s already in preprocessed form (automatic reduction).
And I can feed the original source to creduce.
Oh wait, the dependencies. I guess it saves me the step of changing -c -o out.o to -E >prepro.ii then?
Let’s see what -freport-bug does to a valid, non-rejected program.
oic, I guess I can always compile with -freport-bug and then when it goes boom then I have the prepro source in hand
otoh that will litter /tmp with cc1McQpB.out etc. if you poke around the ICE a lot
 
hola señoras
 
9:25 AM
@Prismatic You should already know how it is with girls and the Internet.
 
I know ;__;
 
@AndreyErick Do people really ask for a phone number still? Would it not be better to ask for Facebook or G+ or such?
 
My iPhone 6 connector sometimes doesn't connect very well due to dust buildup inside the socket.
I wonder how I can fix that.
 
@wilx Aggregates or classes with constructors.
 
@StackedCrooked Blow on it like an N64 cartridge :)
 
9:34 AM
I do and that just makes it wet.
2
I managed to clean out headphone socket by creating a adhesive "stick" made from adhesive tape.
 
headphone socket? you mean ears?
 
That worked very well. But it might leave adhesive residue inside.
@Borgleader yeah, I always insert the headphone jack in my ear :P
 
oh that socket
 
Ell
The jack on my old HTC shorted out
I had to put it through a piece of paper and then into the port to insulate it
 
It shorted out? How did that happen?
You mean it actually short circuited?
 
Ell
9:39 AM
The case was metallic and the hole for the jack was just coveted by paint
@StackedCrooked yeah
And after so many insertions the paint was removed
 
What about that sticky putty you can get to clean stuff with
 
That's pretty bad enginieering.
 
Ell
So the jack made contact with both the metal case as well as the jack port
 
@Ell I see.
 
Ell
And the metal case was also connect to the board inside somehow, as a ground and antenna
And it caused all sorts of monkey business having the jack in without insulation
 
9:41 AM
> internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
well okay then ._.
 
is that what happens when meta programming code has UB in it?
:P
 
@LucDanton wow
 
> ../../gcc/gcc/dwarf2out.c:21382
 
Aargh, the buildserver is too damn slow.
 
> test (and sanity check) fails at /usr/bin/creduce line 209
this is new
I need a break ._.
 
9:50 AM
I've never seen such an extreme build trend, few work then a few fail, over and over
 
lol creduce failing
 
@Ell Yeah, I can tell by the pixels.
 
> a blisteringly fast 2.80GHz
Since when is 2.8 GHz "blisteringly fast"
 
Since 2006.
 
9:59 AM
@buttifulbuttefly They just mean it’s badly cooled. Don’t touch it while it runs.
 

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