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10:08 AM
I drilled a wall hole half a cm off. fml.
 
Man.
Is 'What if you forget?' really a valid argument?
Being honest here
I hear it all the time
 
oh, yay, fixed it
 
"You can solve it by doing X"
"But what if you forget?"
 
@Rapptz To what?
oh
Yes, it can be. In a situation where the problem is that something is prone to errors or forgetfulness, a "solution" that merely replaces this problem with an equivalent new one is not particularly helpful. However I agree that this response is probably often used when it shouldn't be, too.
 
this post right here
I mean, yeah I can see it
But it bugs me
Yeah you forgot. Sucks to be you? I don't know what to say.
should go to bed
 
Xeo
10:16 AM
Well, I admit that it is neat to automatically check the lifetime. But actually writing code like that seems increadibly... demanding? To remember all that stuff.
 
I don't think the Rust code looks nice at all
 
Sigils
sigils everywhere
Because having ;21$$#$#% as syntax instead of standard library is nicer than the alternative...
Okay, I am done venting about rust. :-D
 
I don't care much about Rust.
I just don't like comparison posts that are terrible
X language can do Y better than language Z.
terrible posts
regardless of language
most of the time anyway
 
Okay, quickpoll
how many languages you know that have C++ like RAII?
finalize does not count
 
user1804599
Two.
 
user1804599
10:30 AM
And they both suck.
 
D is one
 
user1804599
C++ and Objective-C++.
 
I have yet to meet someone using Objective-C++... But ok
 
user1804599
RAII is overrated.
 
Xeo
@Xarn Wide!
 
10:32 AM
@Xeo See objective-c++ but much more. :-D
 
Xeo
Wait. Puppy said his job didn't involve C++ - maybe it's Wide?!
 
Anyway, Jonathan Blow is an idiot.
 
@Xeo trolololol
@Xarn Jonathan Idiot blows
 
I can just see Puppy going into the interview and then trying to convince them that they should use Wide.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Can you explain the sharply increased influx of pictures of (female) models? I'm puzzled why we need to see this all the time
 
10:37 AM
@sehe I am watching talk he made "Ideas about a new programming language for games" and I feel my brain cells dying.
 
Meh. It's your own fault
@rightfold I'm truly confounded why sexism has to be brought into this. Men don't need privacy or security?
 
0
Q: I want to add live chat support at my website

user3481196I want to add live chat support at my website . Please help me. I am going to use first time it.

 
C++11: std::unique_ptr<Vector3D> *positions, void* memory_block = NULL, oh god
 
There wasn't actually much point in posting that onebox here, right
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you look wonderful. don't let people discriminate you just because you look like a woman!
 
10:50 AM
@Rapptz Mmm. Actually, I wouldn't have posted the comment then. Good job :)
@rightfold So, I decided to reply after all
 
user1804599
Good thing I'm not a man.
 
I'm not a RealMan(TM)
 
Hello guys, I have a very quick question. Why am I getting ‘cout’ was not declared in this scope? I've imported the namespace std, correctly. I just can't figure it out. Thanks. ideone.com/S8w5y8
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
using new and don't even know how to include headers? :(
 
10:52 AM
@Sofffia #include <iostream>. And Read A Book ideone.com/G1XGzf
 
folks
@Rapptz doesn't surprise me. new is some basic language feature and #include is a preprocessor feature. people should learn how to do intra-file programming before starting with multiple files
 
the first program that 99% of people teach is literally 'hello world'
that shows how to include a file right off the bat
 
Well, I'm coming from Java, and I thought I could pick C++ up without too much effort.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb Thanks!
 
not really no
 
10:54 AM
@sehe Is it increased?
 
@Xarn we need to unleash the terminators
 
@BartekBanachewicz We are voting my proposal btw.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yes. though you're obviously fishing for links
@Sofffia hehehehe
 
lol
I just voted to close some question, and it immediately closed the question without counting close votes
how is that possible?
 
Nobody picks up c++ without much effort. And if you do, start with a book.
 
10:57 AM
@Sofffia Shut up Jefffrey.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb dupe vote. For 1ok+ badge holders
 
lol
 
@sehe ah yes dupe. how did it happen?
 
if I was more awake I swear
 
i wasn't totally sure it is dupe. now i think about undoing the dupe to let other people decide!
 
10:57 AM
shakes fist
 
Don't touch girls, come on. You are better than that.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb It was changed. Like we can now kick/mute chat users
 
lol
 
I'm actually surprised my message wasn't binned
 
10:58 AM
when was that chance done? i need to read about my new powers
 
Or that I didn't get kicked.
 
@Sofffia I'm not. People check accounts :/
@JohannesSchaub-litb It's just the two. One is pinned, fyi
 
oh noes, i will never be able to mix up the stars list anymore :D
you will instantly kick me lol
 
155
A: Increase close vote weight for gold tag badge holders

Tim PostUpdate: this is now enabled everywhere! The rules are: You can instantly close as a duplicate any question that was originally asked with a tag you have a gold badge for. You can instantly reopen any question closed as a duplicate that was originally asked with a tag you have a gold badge for....

^ dupe hammer
@JohannesSchaub-litb you can't. You can mess it up though
 
you know what i mean, making the stars dance
 
11:01 AM
@Sofffia Oh. That way. I didn't realize there was a reference to the fist. Mmm. Kinky perhaps
I have no idea. Perhaps you should give a demonstration.
In the bin
 
@sehe what happens with questions that I voted dupe for in the past?
have they closed them retroactively?
 
TIL that 4 has 8 square roots using unsigned 32-bit math
That's nerdy
@JohannesSchaub-litb nothing. It's a changed behaviour on the event
 
@sehe i will recommend them to do so
 
is Sofffia Jefffrey
oh right
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb Please do. It will amuse them no end
@BartekBanachewicz :)
notice the homepage url
 
11:12 AM
twitter link vOv
so do I buy Scarlett 2i4 while it's still at discount
it's so beautifully designed piece of equipment
 
@BartekBanachewicz wow what is THIS
it looks so cool
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb a (professional-grade) soundcard
@JohannesSchaub-litb IKR
 
@BartekBanachewicz what makes it better than standard soundchips?
im sorry im a noob. but i'm interested as I wanna start in the business
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb 48 kHz/24bit, microphone preamps, midi support
 
@BartekBanachewicz does it support MIDI?
 
11:15 AM
aye
 
it's basically "record your band" in a box
 
nice. not sure about microphone preamps. if i put a microphone into my "mic" in, will it not be amped aswell by the soundchip?
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb those are for microphones connected via XLR (running on phantom power)
 
11:19 AM
@sehe That would be any 64 bit product of the form 0x________00000004, right? And there are only 8 of them? I would have expected more.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb if you just want to listen to music it's probably an overkill
 
@BartekBanachewicz i'm planning to buy a MIDI USB adapter for by keyboard
 
@sehe Well I've started using imgur lately so perhaps that's it. I hadn't noticed really. What do you mean by "fishing for links"?
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb don't buy cheap ones.
I know it's tempting, but there's really a huge difference
 
@BartekBanachewicz do you recommend such a sound board?
oh
 
11:20 AM
@JohannesSchaub-litb 2i4 costs about $200.
A good midi USB adapter will be 1/4 of that
 
Johannes is a musician?
 
@FredOverflow not really :D
 
Is there such a thing as "programmer music", analogous to "programmer art"? :)
 
depends on whether you need analog inputs/outputs of good quality
 
Oh wait, music is art.
But I think of "programmer art" as mostly shitty pixel graphics.
 
fuckkk that discount
$160 for it :S
do I buy it
 
@BartekBanachewicz ah i see
 
At RR looking at chunks of engineering history. This is fun!
Rotary engines are strange. I can't work out how the con rods and crankshaft go together.
 
11:59 AM
this?
(engine stuff is alien to me)
 
C tag removed. I advise you to learn only C or C++ at the same time. They are different languages. Learning them both at the same time will have the effect of you not learning either one correctly. — pmg 29 secs ago
 
12:16 PM
14:16:09 KEY_EVENT_RECORD: Dn, 1, Vk="VK_F13" [124/0x007C], Scan=0x0064 uChar=[U=' ' (0x0000): A=' ' (0x00)]
AHK to the rescue
 
Sleeping in the wild again - awesomeness ... & disappointment of the presence of internet ...
I want to be away ... Disconnected ...
Not in a small patch of green, pretending to be in the mid of nowhere ...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that was at the troll
 
such trooth
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb /cc @Rapptz ideone.com/RmgIu5
@thecoshman I really don't get anything of that
 
Guys? Is Visual Studio 2014 CTP even worth it? Did Microsoft do something right this time?
 
12:28 PM
@sehe huh?
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun you cannot install it alongside other versions of VS, so I never bothered to try it :A
 
@thecoshman That would have been a shorter way to say the same, yes
 
@AlexM. Oh dear
 
Xeo
That your cousin @CatPlusPlus?
 
> Side-by-side installation with earlier releases of Visual Studio is a goal for Visual Studio "14"; however, you should refrain from installing Visual Studio "14" CTP 1 on the same computer as an earlier release of Visual Studio.
> Installing a CTP release will place a computer in an unsupported state. For that reason, we recommend only installing CTP releases in a virtual machine, or on a computer that is available for reformatting.
wtf does that even mean
 
12:29 PM
No
 
@Xeo there's a few *plusplus people...
 
Xeo
Is there a way with GCC to print the version when compiling, but nothing else?
(And it also actually compiling, not like --version where it prints the version and stops?)
 
@AlexM. I think it means "We're not responsible for whatever crap our CTP does to your machines. Install it only if you were going to burn your computer anyway~"
 
Good translation
@Xeo just -v will do, no?
 
Xeo
12:34 PM
That prints a whole bunch of other crap too :/
 
Ah. So, maybe just nm/objdump after the fact
 
Xeo
Decided to just go with g++ --version; g++ <actual invocation>
 
sehe@desktop:/tmp$ objdump -x test | grep -i gnu
  GNU_HASH             0x0000000000400298
  2 .note.gnu.build-id 00000024  0000000000400274  0000000000400274  00000274  2**2
  3 .gnu.hash     00000028  0000000000400298  0000000000400298  00000298  2**3
  6 .gnu.version  00000018  000000000040053a  000000000040053a  0000053a  2**1
  7 .gnu.version_r 00000050  0000000000400558  0000000000400558  00000558  2**3
0000000000400274 l    d  .note.gnu.build-id	0000000000000000              .note.gnu.build-id
@Xeo Some of these might be documented
 
I am using orwell dev c++ compiler. How to execute C++ programs from command prompt? Please help me.
 
Try using keyboard
 
12:47 PM
but how?
@CatPlusPlus but how?
 
@sehe IDGI
y'know, there's a special place in hell for people who spell it "I player"
 
By exerting force upon the keys
In a downward, press-like manner
 
@CatPlusPlus what u are saying?
 
Words
 
cat's gone to the zoo
 
12:50 PM
Hm Spotify doesn't want to minimize to icon
 
is meet lrio's less hot alternative?
 
@CatPlusPlus to tray?
 
You shouldn't call it a tray~
 
it doesn't really exist in this form in Win7+. Not really.
 
12:52 PM
Oh there it is
Had to restart it
 
the tray and the taskbar are kinda one and the same for apps
 
@AlexM. wat
Actually, except for those bugs, I think I like Discourse.
The idea I mean.
 
@AlexM. I don't understand what you're talking about.
 
hm
 
@StackedCrooked which part do you not understand exactly?
 
12:55 PM
gonna need like, £2000 to cover moving fees :(
 
I don't know who or what Irio is.
Oh, what it's lrio.
 
LRiO*
@Puppy did the company not offer some relocation stuff?
no idea how that works tho
 
@Puppy congratz on the job
 
thanks
 
17 hours ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Now comes all the pain of Puppy telling us about his home-hunting antics
@AlexM. For a brand new starter with no prior experience?
 
1:00 PM
is it uncommon?
I noticed there are companies here offering relocation stuff for all positions
 
I wouldn't pay a newbie on probation to move house so they could work for me
The bigger companies might do it I suppose
Wouldn't really know
 
some companies do, some companies don't
 
I have a chance to be in this International Programming Competition thing ;~;
 
^ New: shelving! Yay
 
Send photo to IKEA
???
Profit
 
1:08 PM
I wouldn't be able to put the console there
what if it falls down
breaking itself and other things it hits in the process
 
user1804599
Same with a book.
 
books are more resistant to falling
 
user1804599
Also I'm bored wat do.
 
@rightfold I took all of the books off the shelves when I moved in here
I like extending my workplace horizontally not vertically
even if I have to move to another desk to get a particular thing
s/workplace/workspace/
 
@AlexM. why would it fall down
 
user1804599
1:15 PM
Because you accidentally pull the cord or something.
 
accidentally hitting it with something
pulling the cord
earthquake
so many reasons
 
user1804599
Can't wait till MGS5 is released.
 
@Borgleader ;)
@AlexM. I was a little nervous about it but the screws for the shelf are in pretty deep
 
@rightfold I'm going to play with yaws... see what magic happens
 
user1804599
Okay.
 
1:20 PM
hint: prepare for questions :P
from looks of it, it's an 'appmod' that I want to play with...
 
user1804599
I never used Yaws.
 
vOv seems fairly easy to do what I want... which is more or less have something take care of the webserver side of things and let me generate the data stuff...
 
Ell
afternoon all
 
user1804599
Hello.
 
1:38 PM
There is 4G here. Seems wasted on email and Lounge posts.
 
@MartinJames Do both at the same time!!!
 
@Mysticial: Looking at it, this seems completely worthless as well.
 
2:00 PM
    @import "bootstrap/bootstrap";

    .bullet {
        .col-xs-12;
        .col-sm-6;
        ...
tell me why .col-xs-12 is undefined
TELL ME WHY
 
user1804599
Because Bootstrap is shit.
 
In this case LESS is shit.
 
user1804599
Use Sass.
 
I ain't changing library half way trough. Too much to rewrite.
Also what is this "clipboard" button in the chat?
 
> China has closed 1.8 million pornography and prostitution accounts on social and messaging networks since April in its bid to completely erase adult entertainment from its internet, media said. source
lol
 
2:12 PM
media sad**
 
hm
personally I don't see the point
 
user1804599
Dictator's opinion.
 
@Puppy Removing evidence of their own failure. Communism claims to distribute wealth evenly. Admitting that millions of women are so poor that they're driven to prostitution would mean admitting that their system isn't even close to working worth a damn.
 
I thought that's basically what they already admitted with all the private firms and stuff in China now.
 
@Puppy They've (tacitly) admitted that pure communism failed. They haven't yet admitted that what they're doing now is failing as well.
 
2:24 PM
I dunno
considering the economic state they started with, they've been delivering pretty explosive growth
having millions of prositutes is only a failure if they started from a position of fewer prostitutes.
if they had tens of millions before, then the current state of millions is probably movement in the right direction.
 
@TonyTheLion Why erase adult entertainment to begin with?
 
@FredOverflow My thoughts too
 
@Puppy In theory you're quite right. But 1) there probably weren't tens of millions of prostitutes previously, and 2) even if it's trending in the right direction, obvious evidence of a problem can be embarrassing anyway.
 
@rightfold One of your gods gave a talk the other day.
 
user1804599
Oh nice.
 
2:29 PM
He proposes to replace URIs with SHA1 hashes :)
 
why would anyone use SHA1
 
@Puppy Doesn't git use SHA1?
 
dunno
 
65
Q: Whose underwear is this?

BeofettOkay, this is a bit different.... My son recently got underwear for his birthday. The underwear came in a set of 5, packaged as Justice League underwear. On the packaging, you can see The Flash, Superman, Green Lantern, and Batman. Each of those four have a clearly-recognizable pair of underw...

I bet if I had aquaman underwear nobody would steal it
 
2:37 PM
wat
 
@AlexM. wat @ what?
 
nuffin
 
Hmm, muffins...
 
user1804599
Yummy muffins.
 
yeah I'm hungry now
I wonder if the rain stopped
 
2:43 PM
 
25
Q: Will sleeping with my sons wife have a negative effect on our relationship?

DMKI'm relatively new to Crusader kings 2 and have started as the King of Munster. My first act was to find a suitable wife for both myself and my Son and Heir. As my main aim was to expand the family asap I chose potential wives with positive fertility attributes. So I've ended up with a couple of ...

lol
 
@FredOverflow I started thinking "You fucking moron..." and then I read the tag
 
Ell
@Borgleader me too
I thought it was parenting.se at first :p
 
lol...
 
@Ell yep, same for me
 
2:45 PM
@Ell yeah lol
I want a shawarma
 
go get some
 
it's raining
and I can't order shit because restaurants with websites here don't accept credit cards (i.e. online payment)
 
5
Q: Is it possible to circumvent European censorship?

GetzI've bought South Park: The Stick of Truth on the European PSN. Unfortunately, some scenes (mainly the abortion and anal probe scenes) are censored: I first thought it was a joke, as the censored messages are quite funny, but it's not. Does someone know a way to get around this censorship? F...

> I'm 29 years old, I think I'm old enough to perform an abortion on men if I want to.
lol
Also, has any of you guys played the game?
 
No but I've played Minecraft.
 
(optional)
 
2:52 PM
is that the CTP?
 
No, WP8 emulator images
lol CTP why would I want that
 
Guys, hype about MineZ 2 coming out soon.
@AlexM. so there's this thing called cooking food by yourself
 
lol
 
@AlexM. wow stone age
 
@Chantola there's also this thing called common sense
which means that if I can't go buy food, I can't go buy ingredients either
 
2:54 PM
@AlexM. prepare for the worst then beforehand
 
@CatPlusPlus ikr
 
@AlexM. for christ sake buy an umbrella.
 
whenever I want to order a pizza I have to make sure I have enough cash to give the pizza guy
and it's also a good idea to have it as exact as possible + tip
 
Or just make a salad.
 
if I give the guy a 100 ron banknote and the order is 30 ron chances are he'll tell me he doesn't have any change
I have no idea why you can't pay for everything online in this day and age in Romania
there's no way for me to pay the electricity bill online, unless I do an actual bank transfer through my bank's online service
which is so crappy
 
2:58 PM
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