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4:02 PM
clicking a tile in W8.1 doesn't open a new window by default
so it's not the equivalent of a double click on the desktop
I was ready to say VS2013 doesn't let you open two instances at once
damnit
I had to right click the tile and then click on Open new window
 
Wait, why can I identify on IRC just with the password?
 
@Jefffrey because nickserv is not part of the IRC spec
 
#epson "head cleaning cannot be completed. do you want to replace the ink cartridge now?" what? no! I have half left! CLEAN IT!!
@Jefffrey Why not? It has your nick and your address: what else do you want
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That would mean that password are not hashed.
 
haha you think you can force an ink printer to do something
 
4:11 PM
@Jefffrey How so?
 
And that password are unique.
 
@Jefffrey they likely aren't
 
@Jefffrey What
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How else would he know I'm Jefffrey with that specific password?
 
You have a nick
 
4:12 PM
@Mgetz they are (though it's only unsalted md5)
 
You register the nick
 
@Jefffrey Because Jefffrey is your nick.....???
 
I'm not telling him that.
 
what the fuck
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit depends on the network and server then
 
4:12 PM
the identify command is a message that comes from a user with the nick Jefffrey
 
/msg NickServ identify <password>
 
It knows your nick
 
oh, right
 
lol derpville
 
Even if it wasn't a special component working closely with IRCd
It would still get you nick after you sent a message
Like anyone
 
4:13 PM
ITT IRC private messages are anonymous
 
but to be honest if you're not connecting to the server using SSL anyone can read the password anyway...
 
Ell
yup
 
That's true for everything
 
well, not "anyone". you have to be on the route somewhere
 
4:14 PM
and yet people forget
@LightnessRacesinOrbit or just contrive a route like the US does
 
you have to be either very lucky or have hacked a bunch of routers to be in China and see Jefffrey's nickserv pw
probably not worthwhile
 
yay bgp highjacks
 
bah printer useless right now. i'll just handwrite it
 
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Q: g++ function attribute fastcall params(3) . How to set as default

George KourtisI am looking for an option in g++ to set the default attributes of functions to fastcall or regparm (number) but I am unable to find it.

lol
 
if I can remember how...
 
4:16 PM
Freenode's Atheme services do salt the hashes
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Shoulda bought laser
My printer needs to be fed single page at the time, otherwise it tries to print on several at once :cripes:
 
I've been trying to find out why plasma TVs are being less and less popular (almost discontinued actually) and couldn't find anything clear enough
it's weird considering they're supposed to have clearer image quality (than LCD and LED)
 
I'll get a TV to play games and watch anime on and a 100+cm plasma is only $40 more expensive than an 80cm LED
and if the image quality is also better I'd kinda get the plasma instead
 
The image quality is indistinguishable beyond a certain known distance.
Just get a farther away couch.
 
@AlexM. Power efficiency?
 
4:25 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think it's about contrast
and how much better plasmas are able to render black in scenes with lots of bright colors too
@MartinJames if it's $15 more/year on the electricity bill, I don't mind paying that if I get better colors
the LCD is supposed to be the one on the right
 
It might be more than $15, and the losses come out as heat which, in hot weather, has to be pumped out by the aircon, costing even more money:l(
 
@AlexM. What I said still applies. Move the couch across the street.
 
@CatPlusPlus mm laser printer that'd be nice. if I printed more things I'd be tempted now
 
apparently plasma TVs also have a refresh rate of 600hz
no idea what that helps with tho
oh yeah no motion blur
 
> span style="font-style: italic;">
 
4:30 PM
I'm guessing the lack of motion blur might be an advantage while playing games and stuff
 
Yeah if you can get something to render at 600FPS that'd be real nice
 
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit LinkedIn keeps sending me ~~~invite waiting~~~~ emails even though I don't have an account and unsubscribed like twice already
Can we put all those idiots on some DNSBLs already
 
@CatPlusPlus nice
Right now what should I achieve today
 
I achieved getting up
 
4:36 PM
getting my £200 refund from Bitchtish Gas would be nice
 
Took me like 7 hours
 
I had to call a singleton's static function from inside a non-static function of the same class, I never really thought I'd ever do this who wrote this crap
is this even a singleton by definition anymore
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I like the object 'class' description, that's brilliant. Also, isn't the commented out sample that supposedly resolves the warning undefined behavior?
 
actually what
 
@Praetorian that UB is my point yes
 
4:37 PM
it was the other way around, non-static from static
now my mind is running circles
 
What a bunch of nitwits
 
There's literally no difference between static method and a non-static method of a singleton
It's all global shit anyway
 
@Praetorian quite
 
@AlexM. They burn more power, they're thicker, they have problems at higher altitude, and most of the reason they're cheaper is simply because most people don't want them as much, so they're being sold at thinner profit margins. Most comparisons like you've shown also use pretty much the worst/cheapest LCD they can find--a decent current LCD can produce blacks that are dark enough (in particular, they can reproduce a greater range of contrast than most film and/or sensors).
 
Yes it is. Have I to close the question or do I leave it here for references? Thanks — nsl 1 min ago
How about visiting the help centre.
 
4:39 PM
it's sad when people know they can always find you in the Lounge to follow up on comments :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have a question about that.
 
@JerryCoffin I saw a Sony LED when I went to the store two weeks ago and I was very impressed by it
but it was an 80cm LED
my room is small so that may not be that much of a problem
 
80 cm LED? You wanna buy a TV?
 
An 80cm LED makes no sense.
 
yeah to play games and watch shit on it
 
4:41 PM
@PolymorphicPotato Maybe as a signal across the street?
 
80cm is a length, but LEDs are not one-dimensional.
 
@AlexM. If you wanna play games, SONY is the way to go. Very low latency.
 
@PolymorphicPotato diagonal
 
Which vertices?
 
He's talking about LED TVs.
 
4:42 PM
the largest Sony that's larger than 80cm is 102cm and twice the price lol :D
 
80cm = 32"
 
> it was an 80cm LED
 
there's this 100cm TELETECH crap for really cheap but I'm sure it's crap
 
Your gimmick questions are boring hth
 
it's not a gimmick
 
4:43 PM
@AlexM. Probably
@AlexM. I'm talking about the Potato
 
@AlexM. Sony is good. Buy a Sony. I have a Sony myself.
 
well it definitely had the best image quality of all the TVs shown there
I'll have to take another look and see if it's too small or too big
 
@CatPlusPlus It doesn't help.
 
32" sounds ok-ish
I'll go check the store this Saturday and pick something up
 
> So you can have unnamed parameters in C++? Didn't know that, I'm just getting into the language.
> When it comes to C++, everyone who hasn't written a book or a compiler is just getting in to the language. src
 
4:46 PM
@AlexM. It's not bad--in the days of CRTs, it was pretty common for an entire family to share a screen that was smaller (and lower resolution).
 
My mum shared her TV with me once or twice a week, if I was lucky. I needed it for my Commodore 64.
 
I'll probably sit ~3 meters or so away from it
when playing games
probably more when watching stuff
 
Rule of thumb: No matter how large a TV you buy, you will always regret not having bought a larger one.
 
sounds appropriate
 
3 meters away from 32" is crazy talk
I sit 2.5m away from a 46"
 
I must be estimating things wrong
 
What games are we talking about? Super Nintendo or the latest Full HD consoles?
 
     0ºC +      0ºC = 0ºC
     0ºC + 273.15 K = 273.15 K
273.15 K + 273.15 K = 546.3 K
 
@FredOverflow a PS3
 
Get as huge as you can afford.
 
4:49 PM
I'll have to measure the distance from the TV to my bed
 
The only thing you have to measure is the number of dollars in your pocket.
 
@JerryCoffin now that you mention it
 
It's called couch gaming not bed gaming
 
I can watch things fine on a 29" samsung crt in my room
so 32" should be ok
@FredOverflow if I choose sony it's either 80cm or nothing :D
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Makes perfect sense.
 
4:51 PM
100cm is twice the price, not going to invest that much I think
 
Then stop worrying and buy it.
100cm is 56% more area.
 
@PolymorphicPotato Yeah I know but intuitively it's a bit of a mindfuck until you remember that Celcius is a relative scale and, as such, 0ºC cannot simply be replaced with 273.15 K in an equation
 
holy crap 230cm TVs exist
what the hell is that, IMAX in your home
 
good brainteaser for school physicists, perhaps
 
What Sony model are you going for, exactly?
 
4:53 PM
one sec, let me check the site
 
@AlexM. In the CRT days, Sony had a distinct advantage over the competition. Nowadays, Sony, Samsung, and Sharp (and probably a few others) all seem to be extremely competitive.
 
@FredOverflow it's this one from what I can remember sony-asia.com/product/kdl-32r410b
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wut
that was odd. my hands just typed something other than I commanded them to
that calculation looks very wrong
 
can a 230cm TV cost $14947?
 
4:57 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Isn't it: x °C = (x + 273.15) K, thus leading to: 0ºC + 273.15 K = (0 + 273.15) K + 273.15 K = 546.3 K?
 
this doesn't seem right
 
@Jefffrey lol :)
s/school physicists/Jefffrey/
 
yeah it can O_o
 
@AlexM. That's quite big
 
You are forced to convert 0 °C to Kelvin because otherwise °C + K doesn't make any sense.
 
4:58 PM
that's like, the price of a car
 
Or Kelvin to celsius, if you want to sum celsius.
 
Ell
it makes me angry
 
@AlexM. and yes, they do, which is insane
@Jefffrey The problem is that the RHS operand (0ºC) is a relative figure, but Kelvin is an absolute scale so the two equations are not equivalent
It comes down to Celsius not being a number scale in the way you intuitively expect
 
Nope, don't get it.
 
Ell
5:00 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit is 0 centigrade not freezing point? o.o
 
@Jefffrey Why did you add 273.15 twice.
 
Oh wait.
I see what you mean.
 
@Ell what does?
 
0 °C + 0 °C = 273.15. Of course.
 
Ell
@PolymorphicPotato "Why is it easier to invent anti-rape nail polish than find a way to stop rapists?"
 
5:01 PM
I thought the 0ºC + 273.15 K equation was on its own.
 
That's the title of the article, yes.
What part of the article makes you angry?
 
@Ell Because the former is a simple chemical reaction and the latter is a human behaviour.
 
Let's prevent rape mathematically!
 
@Ell Yeah but mathematics doesn't give a flying fuck what the freezing point of water might be. Water isn't special (yes it is (no it isn't))
 
The article is dumb, by the way.
 
Ell
5:04 PM
@Puppy exactly >.<
 
@Jefffrey The mindfuck is that 0ºC + 0ºC = 273.15 K + 0 K :)
 
Yeah, yeah. I got it.
I'm especially slow today.
 
took me a while too
 
We shouldn't need locks and keys because burglars shouldn't exist.
But they do, deal with it.
 
Burglars get past locks.
 
5:07 PM
don't the japanese never lock their homes?
 
Locks introduce the small barrier that prevent regular people from becoming thieves.
 
or something like that
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit with pouring milk over my shirt, getting burned by boiling water and the IRC thingy, this is just the final proof of me being terribly retarded today
 
Locks protect against the curious, not the malicious. They also add some psychological comfort.
@Jefffrey blimey
 
We had a blogging course today.
 
5:08 PM
@StackedCrooked Is it okay to use a Singleton for blogging?
 
Dunno, but there sure are a lot of blogs about singletons.
Apparently Coliru has pagerank 3.
 
@StackedCrooked Congratulations in overtaking Youtube.
 
My goal is for Coliru to become more popular than Google.
 
inb4 google buys coliru
 
I can now review edits on gamedev so I'm having my share of shit like this
 
5:11 PM
without stack's consent
 
a guy insisted it's a good idea to put all occurrences of "keyboard" inside code tags
 
What happens when Coliru becomes more popular than Google on Google? Does Google become Coliru...?
 
Google will need to handle its requests through Coliru.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Google+ is integrated in Coliru.
@AlexM. If keyboard is a variable then yes....
wait
 
it wasn't
 
5:13 PM
gamedev
right
 
@AlexM. He is a fucking moron.
 
I don't have enough rep on SO to review edits
 
Downvote, close and ban.
 
I've been at 998 rep for a while now
welp, almost 20:30 time to head home
I was a lazy ass today and only arrived at 12:30 at work
:(
 
I'm looking for a new mouse. Any ideas?
(I mean the peripheral, not the animal)
 
5:21 PM
And your budget is...?
 
(I used to have a 6zł (about $2) mouse for the last five years)
 
@EtiennedeMartel At least IMO, there are basically two (sort of opposed) possibilities to consider: either a high-end gaming mouse, or else cordless. For cordless, I'd go with a Logitech (well, "would" is probably the wrong word--I have three of them, and if one died, I'd get another). Comfortable, enough buttons, and long battery life (my oldest is around 3 years old, and still using the batteries that came with it). I've tried a couple of gaming mice, but not enough to have a meaningful opinion.
 
I'm probably looking for a gaming mouse, because at home, gaming is what I mostly do these days.
 
the one I always recommend is the Logitech MX518's successor, whose model I keep forgetting.
 
Xeo
5:28 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Another option would probably be to introduce a conversion for the std::istream& argument
something like struct any{ template<class T> any(T&&){} };
 
5:42 PM
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@EtiennedeMartel If it's gaming, Logitech mice last a pretty long time.
 
user3010322
For some reason the Microsoft Keyboards and Mice I have also lasty really long.
 
user3010322
There's one I've been using for 5 years.
 
user3010322
Good little USB mouse. The coloring on it has started to wear through but it's still as response as ever.
 
5:55 PM
Oh nice, PBKDF2 in Python's standard library.
 
Ell
hmmmmmmmm
PBKDF2 sounds familiar
 
hash algorithm
right.
time to "Fix the Clang layout thing".
 
6:12 PM
user image
7
 
@Ell Not really a hash algorithm per se. More a framework in which to apply a hash algorithm.
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion haha
 
@TonyTheLion Unix people enjoy longer.
 
Xeo
> I know Boost.Optional is available, but I'm trying to avoid that library.
sigh
 
6:17 PM
I wonder how boost context can do its job without invoking UB.
 
Ell
It uses assembly IIRC
I don't know the deal wrt UB and assembly
 
using inline assembly is an implementation-specific extension and therefore implementation-defined behaviour.
but it can't use inline assembly because not all compilers support that feature- notably MSVC x64 does not permit inline assembly.
 
good enough, ship it i.imgur.com/6RpTZgI.gif
3
 
Ell
I need to learn to debug prosody better
 
@StackedCrooked Ell is correct--it uses assembly language (but not inline assembly--it keeps the assembly in separate files, to be built with the assembler). Reference.
 
6:28 PM
boost is really scary in terms of size and complexity, at least to me
 
i see
 
are boost developers superhuman?
 
@AlexM. That made me laugh way too much
 
@AlexM. no they've just been hacking at it since 1997
ish
 
@AlexM. No, they're quite human.
 
6:30 PM
While I was watching the GIF I imagined the robot with a frustrated-grandma-voice yelling "EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT SON OF A BITCH EAT!"
 
@AlexM. they are dolphins
 
6:40 PM
@StackedCrooked Well, a few of them are probably Dolphins fans, anyway. I really doubt that all of them are though.
 
I used to play a SNES or NES basketball game with that team in it
no wait
it was some other dolphins
that's rugby
and apparently the teams were fictional en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Basketball
 
Ell
I got auth kind of semi working
 
@Ell I'm kind of semi happy for you.
@StackedCrooked Close enough. That's pretty cool.
 
Ell
Kind of semi thank you :)
I should have learned about git submodules before trying to use one :S
 
6:47 PM
> Court denies Appleā€™s request to ban Samsung devices in the US
did they really think it would work
 
Did I mention how much I hate Drupal
 
@Ell I was going to post a link to a Real Genius scene this reminded me of, but I can't find the right bit on YT. Deeply saddening.
 
frequently.
 
@CatPlusPlus I think you may have given a hint at it, but you were so subtle it was hard to be sure.
 
Ell
so many ice challenges on facebook
 
6:56 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I've got the razer deathadder/mamba. Mamba is the sometimes wireless version of the deathadder. I like them because I like larger mice, they fit well in my hand.
 

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