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2:00 PM
so std::tie is dumb
 
I wish FB Messenger would let you CONFIRM before sending a new photo to the entire message group. I took a "screenshot" of my FB screen as a "this is what I'm doing look how boring my life is" example for my family (who are sending all sorts of photos of cocktails, beaches and whatnot) ... and only after I'd snapped it realised that tabs for my other conversations were visible too. Thank fuck nothing untoward present but jesus christ that was close.
 
why
 
@BartekBanachewicz std::til
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Scrubbing screenshots should be part of your screenshot posting workflow regardless.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what was in it?
 
2:02 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Lucky!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Exactly -- but I didn't get a chance to.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah I hate that too
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Just a bunch of names and thumbnail profile photos of girls and the first 8 or so words of last messages from them
heehee
 
@Jefffrey I have to declare variables before which suck
should've left it
anyway
why am I writing in C++
 
Because deep down you love it.
 
2:03 PM
why can't I go back home and tweak my MonadState instance for WebM MyGameState ()
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit moral: don't use FB
 
that code is so many lightyears of magnitude squared better than this shit
 
It feels like Facebook is where the world's worst programmers — but ones who can memorise algorithms by rote — end up. You know, as opposed to those of us who actually think through things and produce good designs.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit probably more true than you think
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit were the 8 words "The orgy was great, props for the midgets"?
 
2:05 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit puppy should apply
 
Wait, is midget offensive?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Have you got something to hide?
 
@Jefffrey Don't we all?
 
Not on Facebook.
 
@Jefffrey well if one of them said "I want to sex you" then that's something I don't particularly need my parents reading
@thecoshman ^_^
@thecoshman Puppy probably hasn't heard of FB yet.
ooh my neighbours have a fit granddaughter
 
2:07 PM
/cc @Puppy ^^
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Post pics
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, unless it was to 8 years old girl, it should be ok. It is not like your parents expect you to live in celibacy, right?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, such bad grammar.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit so like Jefff said, you've got nothing to worry about
 
@SamDeHaan one of the messages, not one of the girls ;)
 
Ell
2:08 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
@VáclavZeman shrug
I dno.. I can't think of a good example. But still.
I panicked and had to scan every detail of the screenshot to ensure it was "safe"
 
Ell
I don't upload any pictures with facebook or facebook messenger for this reason :P
 
Or just check them before uploading them instead of forcing the entire facebook population to have to confirm their action one more time.
 
Ell
You can't check them before you upload
 
What?
Take screenshot. Save it on disk. Check it. Open Facebook thingy. Send.
 
Ell
2:10 PM
idk if LRiO and I are talking about the same thing actually :p
 
Also
why can't I compose templates with infix syntax
please propose that for C++17
 
Compose templates with infix syntax? Can you make an example?
 
T<U> ==> T <> U (or dunno T . U)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not posting vanity screenshots is part of my daily workflow /cc @LRIO
 
lol what
 
2:13 PM
"@LRIO" doesn't work fyi hth
 
@BartekBanachewicz what about it
 
@Jefffrey keeping track of brackets is annoying
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it does, as you've just proven
 
@sehe having to declare variables before using it to take a decomposed pair result is annoyng
 
@sehe I scrub any sort of screenshot.
 
2:14 PM
@sehe loooool went looking for a counter-example and couldn't get past this gem
 
map . (strint, int)
 
@sehe nope I saw the message through other means!
 
vector . int
 
@BartekBanachewicz make your own thing. Anyways, there's boost/fusion/adapted/tuple.hpp
 
@BartekBanachewicz f 'a
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know. That's completely beside the point. It served well to indicate that this was also directed at you. And you proved it worked excellently
 
@Abyx hm, what's f and a?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Pawnguy and my old raptor avatar.
Memories :...(
 
2:16 PM
I miss pawnguy
he had nice ideas
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes me too
@LightnessRacesinOrbit life?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit not vanity
 
@BartekBanachewicz f - function, a - template parameter. it's from OCaml
 
@Abyx ah so that's a different syntax
 
@sehe right, that's the term
 
Is OCaml similar to F#?
 
2:17 PM
@sehe And my screenshot was for the same purpose. What's your problem?
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah. F# is OCaml with .NET support
 
@sehe No, not really, because I knew it was directed at me before I even got to the broken plink, so it was indeed totally useless and you haven't "proved" anything.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Do you want the full list?
 
anyway what do you think about that infix composition thing
 
2:19 PM
Ooh. You completely caught me out.
I will never be able to get a job :(
 
what if types in C++ were curried tho
 
Nov 1 '13 at 20:48, by sehe
It bugs me that TeamViewer's stock photography pleases me.
I feel manipulated
 
map int string
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit She's really beautiful.
 
map (vector . vector $ int) string
SO NOT GONNA HAPPEN I KNOW
 
Ell
2:20 PM
hmm
 
Why would you have a vector<vector<int>> as a key to a map?
 
Ell
my <iframe> isn't redirecting o.O
 
@Jefffrey for the lulz
I still think the best map key ever is triple<int,int,int> denoting 3d position
that was the piece of Minicraft code I liked the most
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz what is wrong with this? o.O
oh
 
@Ell nothing. It's great.
 
2:23 PM
I think marketing tends to use young beauty women to sell stuff
 
hmm
 
I'm looking at a position that asks for knowledge of linux/unix.
 
You'll probably hate it.
 
yeah.
 
2:25 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He has you plonked.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't care
 
@Puppy well you don't qualify
 
I dunno
 
btw still no reply from codementor?
 
the listing text is like, "some knowledge of programming C++ on Unix / Linux."
no.
 
2:26 PM
I need to find out who plonked me - so that I can bad mouth them behind their backs
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If anything that only re-affirms the pattern we have already identified, that he willingly pulls the wool over his eyes (so to speak) in the face of anything that he does not recognise or that does not impact his physical daily life, including any worldly knowledge that I have thus far attempted to impart!
@chmod711telkitty I plonked you
 
@Puppy bummer
 
@chmod711telkitty me, me!
 
@Puppy "Every time I install something, it doesn't work until I ll, chmod and chown for a couple of hours" should get you through the 'linux knowledge' question.
 
@chmod711telkitty we've all plonked you
 
2:27 PM
Who's @chmod711telkitty??
 
yeah right, since when I have given you the impress that I was an idiot?
14
 
Do we have to answer?
 
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I doubt he did
 
2:28 PM
@Jefffrey Same
 
I've seen the signs.
 
In crop fields?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes We know that he's good at going "la la la" and pretending he can't see or hear, well, pretty much anything. So I don't think it's a reach that he's faking it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think you are.
 
lol
@SamDeHaan Hah, that would be quite the twist, wouldn't it?
 
2:29 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I doubt he'd do that instead of simply using the tools available.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I've watched Primer too many times lately.
 
> given you the impress
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I doubt Puppy has even heard of the plonk facility.
@Jefffrey thanks captain obvious
@Abyx Cya. Thanks for playing.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what?
 
2:31 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Dunno what their problem is, maybe they just don't need more C++ people or maybe they just don't like me personally but it would have been nice to know.
 
@Abyx Oh, nothing.
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 29 minutes.
giggle
 
meh
 
lol
 
HOW ARE YOU TALKING
 
2:31 PM
@Puppy my guess is that they aren't allowing too many mentors because one or two bad ones and the site reputation is dead
 
wtf -.-
haha nice flag
looooooooooooool
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit With my notwork today, I'm not sure.
 
@MartinJames ISWYDT
 
ISWYDTT
 
I see what you did there T-REX?
 
2:33 PM
Must be
 
chat very well coded
 
> Ukraine Reports Russian Invasion on a New Front
Ukraine says convoy of 100 Russian tanks have crossed into east
Russian reporters 'attacked at secret soldier burials'
Finland and Sweden to strengthen ties with Nato
all kinds of shit seemed to happen these days
 
Did you get that from Fox.ru?
 
they photographed a Russian tank that was never sold or exported to the Ukranian army.
 
@AlexM. It's humanitarian aid - they are water tanks.
 
2:34 PM
Wait.
"crossed into east"?
 
makes it hard to argue that Russia isn't sending arms to the rebels and they just captured the stuff from the regular Ukrainian army.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nah it's a post a guy made on a forum, each sentence leading to a different source
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I bet he won't be able to talk now.
 
Are they fleeing Ukraine?
 
Ell
WW3 is on the way
 
2:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, "crossed into east Ukraine".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't ask me - I'm aparrently very bad at compass points:)
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 55 minutes.
yeahhhhh
 
the thing is that Ukraine had a bunch of T-64s left over from the Soviet era.
 
@Jefffrey that's got 'im
 
2:36 PM
so when the rebels started using T-64s, they could (and did) argue that they just stole them from the Ukraine military.
 
well, if WW3 happens, maybe we'll see North Career do something too
 
but Russia never exported the.. T-64B I think it was.
 
North Career
 
so now they have pictures of a rebel T-64B
 
2:36 PM
North Carer
 
it's hard to argue they got it anywhere but Russia.
 
@Puppy Shopped.
@Puppy Photoshop is in the US.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ooooh
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Really? I'm crap at spotting that kind of thing and it was a low-quality picture to begin with.
 
watch the greed of humans take shape
 
2:37 PM
There's the 'Dovefest' music festival on the weekend - any chance WW3 could be postponed until Monday?
 
@Puppy Oh. I don't even know the picture. Just playing dumb.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit greed is good :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Photoshop is in the cloud, dude
 
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit BRB
 
2:37 PM
personally
I think the situation would improve if the rest of the Western nations sent in some tanks/bombers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes FYI
 
I think that Putin is mostly supporting this because the West is doing jack shit about it.
 
@Puppy lol yeah that always helps
 
and he'll pull back if they make it clear that they won't tolerate it.
as in, actually do something about it instead of shout.
 
Shoot first, shout later.
 
2:38 PM
That's how world wars start
It's not a good approach, which is why the world's political experts have not gone down that route.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Worked for Han.
 
As usual, there are no good approaches, just a range of bad ones.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not really!
 
He got the princess.
 
I liked "He nailed the princess" better.
 
2:40 PM
fuck just an hour more
4
 
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's a lot.
 
I have had enough for today
I haven't slept well
 
@BartekBanachewicz ey bby wan sum fuk
 
the fuck at the beginning was just generic fuck
 
2:41 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes He got encased in Corbomite.
 
bby = before the Battle of Yavin.
2
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No it's not..
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you get the ubernerd badge
 
you didn't know that?
even I knew that.
 
no i didn't fuck me right
 
2:42 PM
indeed.
 
I mean don't fuck me
fucking commas
 
you are clearly culturally inferior and unknowledgable.
 
So it turns out Ladbrokes's online "unsubscribe" system is a no-op and so is their "text STOP To 86131". And they are spammy cunts. No shock really
 
@Puppy you OTOH are a fucking genius at everything
 
this, I already know
 
2:43 PM
see! you're even a genius at knowing that!!!
WOW
 
I gotta go feed muttley.
 
at least you remembered without my assistance for once :P
 
I gotta go feed myself
 
@BartekBanachewicz Er, Star Wars was in recent context.
 
@Puppy sans finding jobs fucker.
 
2:44 PM
indeed.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know I know
 
I'm actually definitely considering going back to university.
I've only got one year to go
 
I really am not good today refactoring tons of code a lot of interfaces oop why why why
@Puppy for what
 
to finish my degree
 
yes waste a year more to get a worthless paper
 
2:46 PM
I concur that it's worthless, but it seems that the jobs market here definitely does not.
 
@Puppy Go for it. I assume you have already invested some years into it. Finish it.
 
just a question of which university to attend and what financial arrangements I can make.
also not going if I can avoid it.
 
> Tropes vs Women in Video Games creator driven from her home by online threats and abuse: pcgamer.com/uk/2014/08/28/…
probably because of sexism
 
@AlexM. Sounds more like it was just because of online threats and abuse.
Oh, wait, that's what it says there.
 
Ell
@AlexM. I can't deal with sarkeezian
or whatever she is called :P
 
2:49 PM
the threats are pretty... disturbing actually
 
For some reasons I don't mind super hot, half naked women in video games. But I don't really have sympathy for men who went broke because they just had to re-marry 3 times after cheating on their wives at time.
 
wat?
 
Getting married costs money?
 
who'da thunk
 
@BoltClock ...and getting divorced costs even more.
 
2:51 PM
@BoltClock divorce does ...
 
A robber demands your money or your life. A wife demands both.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes--and it won't come as any major surprise if "very scary" turns out to be something that wouldn't even get flagged if it were posted here.
 
depends on the wife, thought a great percentage of men became better beings after they got married and had children
Also couples are on average, are a lot richer than single people. It coule be a lot of reasons, age, for example. Or maybe they are saving for the kids.
 
a guy I know lives off his wife's salary
he's definitely richer in a couple
 
Nothing wrong with living off the wife :p
 
relationships do cost money if you have them (he obviously doesn't)
 
2:56 PM
A lot of high achieving career women have house husbands
 
if relationships make you happy you're essentially paying for your happiness in monthly installments for the rest of your life
 
sounds like a good deal to me
if money can't buy happiness I guess I'll have to rent it...
 
@chmod711telkitty this guy was a PC gaming journalist and the magazine got closed
he has nowhere to work
@chmod711telkitty living off anyone is all kinds of wrong
 
not if he takes care of the kids
someone has to
 
if his wife dumps his ass
he'll be 100% broke in an instant
 
2:59 PM
same argument can be used on women, people don't seem to have a problem with that
 
I didn't say it couldn't be used on women
 
I think the only female CEO in Australia has a house husband, if she is raking in $500k a year, and he takes care of their children and the house work, I really don't see the problem with that
 
don't be so sexist
 
ok
if his wife fucking dies
he'll be left alone with the kids
 
he'll be left a few millions and the kids
 
3:03 PM
that's one particular case
 
so just kill the kids. jesus this isn't rocket science.
 
Ell
@chmod711telkitty More than a few probably
if she's making $500k
 
fuck I've forgotten how to write a letter. Is it my address on the top left or the top right?
 
don't letters have templates and stuff?
 
she doesn't always make $500k a year & will not be making that sort of money forever
 
3:04 PM
I mean you write the address on the envelope
and envelopes are usually marked
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'll sell them ... you know, better off financially
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit top right
I think :P
best google to be sure :L
 
Bottom Right
 
I only write my introduction, letter body and signature on letters :\
oh well
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How formal is this?
 
3:07 PM
@Ell yes thx
@R.MartinhoFernandes passingly. contract termination notice
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, but rockets would make it more fun
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh, then on the top shit
 
TIL about swatting
 
ah, the book depository. So cheap, but my god they near enough post your book page at a time.
@AlexM. nuts isn't it
 
yeah like
 
user3010322
Swatting?
 
3:18 PM
random people call the cops and say they need to go to X's house where X is someone who streams CS matches on twitch
 
@ThePhD it's great fun! you see some live streaming, and you call the cops so a SWAT teams burts in!
 
user3010322
.... How do they get their address?
 
Ell
wtf
 
@AlexM. I like how you are both too generic about some details, yet needlessly precise about others.
 
Ell
I think gnome-terminal crashed
 
3:19 PM
@ThePhD ¬_¬ we have ways
 
@thecoshman I'm still learning the ropes
 
user3010322
Lolwat.
 
user3010322
So you just call the police
 
user3010322
get the address
 
user3010322
and then a whole swat team shows up?
 
user3010322
3:22 PM
What the hell did they have to tell them?
 
user3010322
That he was a drug kingpin?
 
you say you think a shooting spree is under way
 
user3010322
But who the hell gives out their real address? <_>
 
these things can leak
 
user3010322
You can only get so precise with an IP address.
 
3:23 PM
@ThePhD it's enough to say there's a bomb planted there
 
@ThePhD read, not at all
 
and when the cops enter the house and hear "The bomb has been planted."
oh boy
 
user3010322
This is why you wear headphones.
 
"Terrorists win."
 
"Counterterrorists win"
 
3:24 PM
like hell they do, 'MURICA
 
Also :america:
 
Ell
okay wtf happened to my shells
balls.
 
people keep on going through the same tests and interview I went through but I've yet to get a teammate :\
I'm literally the whole team in what I do in my city
#solonely
 
Ell
Ima listen to that
 
well at least I'll get a lead, somehow
next week another guy who's been working here for some years now will be moved to my department as lead developer
 

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