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2:00 PM
Firefox has a new logo
 
Xeo
wat
 
 
@Felics GLM inherits the semantics from GLSL.
 
just more smoothing meh
 
@jalf hmm... how can you multiply 4 element vectors and get a 4 element vector?
 
2:01 PM
I hadn't realized they'd changed it before
 
is nice :)
 
@Felics (a) you could do member-wise multiplication, (b) I didn't say that the result was going to be a vector, (3) I already said that in this case I would prefer a named function instead because of the ambiguity
 
@jalf that's usually the point when doing changes like that
 
@BartekBanachewicz what, for no one to notice?
 
@jalf mhm. They are used to the brand. If you want to refresh it, it's sometimes better to make it pass unnoticed
 
2:03 PM
Why is it that journalists cannot understand the difference between elements and compounds? Aparrently, some Ashes batsmen are accused of using 'silicon tape' to defeat the HotSpot technology. I would have thought that such tape would be too brittle.
 
I've read about it somewhere years ago.
 
morning
 
@MartinJames that contained an impressive number of terms that made no sense to me
 
@MartinJames
silicon**e** .... ahh i see
 
@BartekBanachewicz Really?
 
2:04 PM
Also i have 8,686 rep. Would be nicer to have 80686, but it's a nice number anyway :3
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@Felics That is memberwise multiplication. GLSL has separate named functions for dot and cross products: glm.g-truc.net/api-0.9.4/… glm.g-truc.net/api-0.9.4/…
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Are you using Chrome?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit look at what jalf posted two lines below
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's right there
 
I'll scrape it to imgur.
 
Oh, yeah, that's a big change. blog.mozilla.org/creative/2013/06/27/…
fucksake
@BartekBanachewicz I don't see anything jalf posts.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah, you've moved to the other sandbox.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ?
 
2:07 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it looks more modern
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, but when I think of a vector i think of it as i, j, k ... with some kind of geometrical representation. That operation might be valid for a color or something... but for vectors?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nvm
 
@BartekBanachewicz How so?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit compare iOS 7 icon design to iOS 6 for example
smooth, nonflashy gradients are apparently a thing now
I am not a designer, FTR.
 
@Felics which is why sane libraries make a conscious decision about what kind of vector they want to model. There's nothing wrong with a library designed specifically for 3d and 4d vectors, intended to model GLSL, as long as you make it clear that this isnt' supposed to be general-purpose linear algebra vectors :)
 
2:09 PM
I was just curious as to whether you could justify your claim
But you've managed it -- yes, simple colour transitions are all the rage. It's like we're having a pop-art resurgence
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit minimalism is the rage to be exact
 
hm, I just found a Q about function returning itself in C
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nooooooooooes! The blink tag is removed!
 
foo :: a -> (a -> (a -> (a -> OVERFLOW
 
2:14 PM
@BartekBanachewicz FYI
fuck iOS, mind you
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit iOS > Android IMHO
> colors look like they were pulled straight out of Windows Metro. (And that’s not a good thing!)
lol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nice article, kthx
 
wow I just discovered sqlfiddle.com its freakin awesome !
 
except SQL is not :F
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and the other stuffz he writes is good too
 
@A.H. that's pretty cool actually
 
@BartekBanachewicz you don't like SQL ?
 
2:24 PM
@A.H. No sane person likes SQL.
 
@Griwes not true
it has its uses
 
@DeadMG Carmack leaves id for Oculus. I know how you really care about that piece of news.
 
"Has its uses" != "there are people liking it".
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...
 
@EtiennedeMartel Really?
 
2:27 PM
@Griwes -____- you like it for the job at hand != not liking it for everything
 
@EtiennedeMartel what?
@A.H. no, not really
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I use both, mind you
 
@EtiennedeMartel It has radically changed my view of the world.
 
> Id Software cofounder and legendary game designer John Carmack has left the company to become Chief Technology Officer at headset manufacturer Oculus VR, the company announced today.
O.O
 
...but.. why?
 
2:29 PM
> He did 2D practically and figured out how to make Commander Keen work, and figured out how to do 3D and Doom and Quake so if he is this excited about VR, he must have figured out how to make it feel really good. Then you click it on and you're like, 'Oh shit, this is amazing.'"
 
@Rapptz Probably because iD hasn't made a game worth playing for twenty years. I'd leave that shit immediately too.
 
@DeadMG Twenty?
I take it you did not really like Quake then.
 
iD's design is at least lame, that's true. Carmack was always a technology guy
Last well designed iD game was Q2 IMHO
 
@DeadMG I thought Carmack was smart. If he was deciding on leaving the company why didn't he do it earlier.
 
@Rapptz memories? nostalgia?
 
2:30 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It was only "well designed" because back then anything was "well designed".
@Rapptz The status quo is a powerful force.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, I actually thought it was kinda shit.
 
@EtiennedeMartel his choice isn't even a good one.
but that's another thing entirely
 
@Rapptz How come?
 
but twenty years was a slight exaggeration.
 
@EtiennedeMartel touche
 
2:31 PM
@DeadMG You're Mr. Hyperbole.
That's your real name. Don't try to hide it.
 
@Rapptz He apparently sees something in Oculus that you don't... yet
 
@Rapptz Thus proving that Carmack isn't very smart, or, he stayed at the company for non-rational reasons like emotional attachment.
 
@Rapptz I heard the Oculus Rift is a pretty cool piece of tech.
 
Xeo
They need to work on that motion sickness stuff though :s
 
@Xeo I think that requires a lot of actual content preparation
 
2:32 PM
@EtiennedeMartel The only thing Quake and Doom had going for them was that they were technologically innovative, and iD lost that crown a long time ago, especially since other developers could put together interesting stories, AND fun gameplay, AND decent technology, instead of just decent technology.
 
i.e. is not a problem entirely of oculus
@DeadMG iD is considerably smaller than other studios, though
 
@EtiennedeMartel Ehhh.. yeah it's cool but just like everything that is cool it has no good showcase.
His departure isn't the best one because it feels like a pseudo-investment.
 
He always said he really liked the Oculus.
 
I would have picked somewhere else, really.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Try playing Minecraft with it!
 
2:34 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Then obviously they shoulda hired more staff. Even Blizzard started out as like, three guys, and so did other huge companies.
 
@Rapptz I take it you're not impressed by the Oculus.
 
I kinda doubt that programmers should be worried whether whole game is good or not. For me working with good piece of code is enough.
 
@Abyx Eh?
 
@DeadMG I am not really going to say what they should do because I simply don't feel competent
 
2:34 PM
@Abyx If the game isn't good, and it doesn't sell, they'll be laid off, so I expect they do worry.
 
Tech rarely matters anyway.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Personal opinion is irrelevant. I just think the choice of leaving iD for Oculus is a risky pick. I wouldn't have done it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel grrrrr
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, let me rephrase that. Perhaps I don't know, exactly, what they should have done. But what they did do definitely wasn't it.
 
@Rapptz but he asked precisely about your personal opinion
 
2:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have been struck down with a terrible case of stupid. I canny change the A record in the OVH manager thing. It came with an A record set up to some IP that is some advert thing, but if I try to change it, it says 'ReadOnly Session'... help please!
 
@DeadMG vOv
 
simple fact is, it's tough as shit to stay at the top edge in the game industry, and iD would hardly be the first guys to start something big and then fade into utter irrelevance.
 
@thecoshman "the" A record?
@thecoshman which domain please
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit thecoshman.com obviusly
 
@thecoshman obvously
what's your server IP?
 
2:37 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 'the' 'a', it's all the same...
 
@Rapptz he's really in a position when he can take that risk, imho
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit pointing it to github pages, so 204.232.175.78
 
Is he really?
Had iD even made that much money at all lately?
 
He's a millionaire.
Also a lot of companies would pay for his consulting.
 
@Rapptz Probably cashed out when Bethesda bought the brand.
I mean, let's face it, a lot of people might buy a game that actually looked like it might be remotely interesting if it had the iD logo slapped on it
instead of just "Yet another shooter set in a brown castle"
I mean, let's face it, Call of Derp already has that one monopolized
 
2:40 PM
Call of Duty 4 was good :(
 
Modern Warfare was good. Rest was kinda meh.
 
I also enjoyed the first CoD
but honestly, after you've made the same game like ten times in a row with vaguely maturing engines
 
FIFA? :P
 
I never enjoyed that shit in the first place, so it's not so easy to comment
 
The sport games actually looked better over time
 
2:42 PM
@thecoshman Domain unlocked?
 
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit o_0
 
I am super annoyed these a few days
 
well, I gotta admit, that Fifa 10 looks exceptionally ugly
probably because it's a poor shot that can't show off the lighting
 
@thecoshman what?
 
2:49 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 'unlock' a domain? You need to slow it down with your fancy words
 
@Rapptz huh, FIFA 11 was better
@thecoshman go read the fucking documentation
 
dude, nobody does that shit
 
@DeadMG that and they chose a player who looks he lost a fight with a frying pan
3
 
@thecoshman Don't they all?
 
2:57 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah, I've found that. Why would I have to unlock it for transfer though?
 
@thecoshman ehm.. why wouldn't you? that's what unlocking allows you to do. that's its purpose.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ok then... though currently failing to see how to unlock it via OVH... I would have thought updating things like A record, the manager would cater for the unlock, update, lock process for me...
still
 
> gh: command not found
Right on the level of $ hgp ush.
 
@thecoshman Looks like too many shovels to the face.
 
:|
nooo dammit
 
3:09 PM
Right, because nobody ever made that joke before.
 
@thecoshman There's a big fucking button that says "Unlock domain". Screenshot available on the page I linked you to.
Disclaimer: I have no domains hosted by OVH so I can't walk through this process myself to test it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit aye, I know. It's some sort of odd "you got to the manager via an order, thus you can't fully use it" bullshit
there we go!
god damn it. Why can't sites explain what there error messages mean (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
@thecoshman /their/there
because that's not a challenge
 
Xeo
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Q: Return type based on value of input parameter

OSEIn C++11 is there a way to implement a sqrt function that works for both positive and negative double input values? I would like the return type to be std::complex<double> if the input is negative and a double if it is positive. I realize the simple solution is to just always return std::complex<...

...
 
@thecoshman I concede that domain locking is not well handled by hosting management GUIs
I mean, arguably, you know it's me so just fucking update the record already. Abstract the locking away
But you do also need to be able to control the locking mechanism in some advanced cases, particularly during transfers. It's all kinda low-level.
 
3:15 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit actually, it is. I didn't have to mange unlocking it my self. I just had to log out of the manager andback in
 
@cv_and_he That's of course it. WOW. Good spot. Note that "[-+]?[0-9]+" also works correctly to prevent a strange range + to ] to be matched :) — sehe 57 secs ago
^ @DeadMG has a point about regexen and donkey-cock-suckiness
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh, of course the low level control should never be taken away.
now I play the waiting game... UPDATE DAMN YOU DNS!!
 
@thecoshman refresh faster
 
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A: Return type based on value of input parameter

Lightness Races in OrbitNo, this is not possible. Types are compile-time constructs, and your function's type is fixed at compile-time. Were the argument provided as a constexpr "constant expression", then you might have used templates to solve your problem. But, with dynamic inputs, this is simply not possible.

 
@A.H. o_0
 
3:17 PM
gimme repz
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he can use a crappy go-around
and return a tuple of both only one of which is defined no?
or pass a parameter and use a return code
 
welp, home time
peace
 
@thecoshman what time is it there?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the repwhore is strong in you.
 
I wonder how tomalak would cope when question vampires get the answers they so desire without paying any reps
 
3:24 PM
@Telkitty猫咪咪 i get annoyed
this has happened to me before
they then respond with their own answer using my answer a few days later and accept it ofc
 
yeah but tomalak is opening a new room forthe question vampires to get free answers from
 
Repwhore<C++> room
 
@TonyTheLion can you change the status to repwhoring
hmm "repwhores unite"
 
@sehe Why yes, yes I do.
 
@DeadMG I think 2 grown men have just spent at least 60 minutes trying to find the flaw in that haystack (granted, the complexity didn't mostly come from the regex, but rather the enclosing complexity)
 
3:29 PM
@sehe more suspensions
so the flag did work
 
Ah. good to know. Most often, sock-puppetry leads to deletion/forced account merge, though
 
My flag still says "active"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit hey tomalak, you totally should invite tiina to your new room!
 
:11118902
 
3:34 PM
 
^ What has become of the lounge... :(:(:(
 
@sehe ?
 
You guys suck at replying to messages
 
@sehe Leisure Suit Sehe in the Land of the Lounge Lizards.
 
3:36 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf why at me?
...
 
user1804599
Hello.
 
inb4 Plonk
 
huh, whom at?
 
plonkers
 
yes please
 
user1804599
3:37 PM
@TonyTheLion Funny. I haven't plonked Telkitty on this account yet, and it just posted something right after you mentioned it!
 
> Anecdotes are totally true. My friend told me.
 
lol
> it
 
user1804599
*plonk*
 
what's wrong with telkitty?
 
everything.
 
3:40 PM
 
@EtiennedeMartel dammit
REASON: Your request was denied because of its content.

Categorization: games
T_____T
 
No idea what that rat is ... thought it was just another newb with sucky taste avatar
plonk!
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf You can't even read stuff on Gamasutra?
You should quit your job.
 
i am at the end of the week ^_^
well technically i'm just ending it early
internship~
 
Xeo
3:48 PM
Yay, home
 
@Xeo ? context?
 
@Xeo Haskell tiem!
 
Xeo
@EiyrioüvonKauyf The context is me.
@LucDanton Shopping tiem, nothing to drink here.
Also, first come the daily Kanji
before anything else
 
user1804599
Let's implement object literals and object pattern matching.
 
user1804599
And guards.
 
user1804599
3:54 PM
@Xeo Actually, not quite. ^ works only with identifiers, while switch and guards work on any expression.
 
@thecoshman I honest have no idea. I change zone records with the Android app. The web interface is terrible.
It's a very special level of "bad" when I prefer the mobile interface.
 
welp, I now lost 33 1/2 pounds over the last few months
 
Uh, how few is that?
 
Woah, that's like 15 kg or something, right?
 

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