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3:00 PM
it's some other attempt at defining a genre
 
@BartekBanachewicz Okay, that earns you at least one point toward "may actually have taste after all".
 
6 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
London Philharmonic Orchestra disappeared somehow
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz I also really like Anti You and Takedown from him.
 
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My favourite (not suitable for whoever hates cats):
 
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3:01 PM
 
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Just love that music ...
 
I wouldn't exactly call Blue Stahli alternative though, at least judging by this one song.
 
@rhalbersma I think it's "gospel" actually
@R.MartinhoFernandes hipster.
 
@Xeo I actually had 2 whopping scrobbles of Blue Stahli on Last.fm :)
 
'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position AGAIN? FFS PYTHON 2 SUCKS SO MUCH I AM SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING THIS SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER AGAIN FUCK.
It pops up like twice a day.
 
3:04 PM
@kbok could be, plucked that quote from a site
what's with the 5 o' clock anger outbursts over here?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like you.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yay for MLP community
 
Yes I did and no one does not handle my case. — UnLiMiTeD 49 secs ago
Close votes please.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wanted to post that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I trust your judgement and shall vote with great prejudice.
 
3:10 PM
0
Q: Why is there no template in C?

CyanC doesn't define template. A quick look at Google shows this is a regular request, and many "do-it-yourself" fiddling with Macros try to emulate the same behavior. While I initially thought this situation was "due to the (old) age of C99", this seems no longer a valid excuse with C11 (2011). And...

 
@R.MartinhoFernandes aye captain
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because it's C
 
@Rapptz You mean C++/C?
 
That'd always evaluate to 1!
 
lolololo
 
3:12 PM
> Furthermore, template are relatively easy to use,
haha, nice joke.
 
> It may be more sensible to ask “Why do people continue to use C and revise its standard instead of using C++?
 
@Rapptz Actually, it's UB. How do you know the denominator gets evaluated before the increment?
 
ahahahaaha
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++/C>: Not sure what was going on. [c++] [c++11] [coliru] [no-helpdesk]
 
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@EtiennedeMartel What heck with you and your unicorn, you are starting to scare me out now ...
 
3:12 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I've never been a big fan of the LPO. The Berliners and Neiderlanders among us have it better than the Londoners. If you ever go to Amsterdam, go to a performance at the Concertgebouw...nearly incomparable.
 
That joke was too good to leave it to die peacefully.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh right, sequence points
 
gah fucking hell, I have to develop a "mobile web app" for this stupid fucking project
 
@Telkitty Seriously, watch the show.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a lot simpler than their current way of doing it a la no function overloading.
 
3:13 PM
@JerryCoffin I just hope my GF won't see that just now, because I can't afford a trip to Amsterdam :)
 
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but you can afford the latest electronic gigs
 
@BartekBanachewicz bus trips from Poland -> Amsterdam go for very little
 
I don't want to be a web developer ._.
 
@rhalbersma welp, someday I'll go for sure
@Telkitty I needed a new phone for a long time
 
@BartekBanachewicz You let your GF peek into the lounge?
 
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3:15 PM
My Android is $45 dollars
 
@Telkitty don't poke the Android devs here now
 
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are you one of them?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes meh. It's not like it's hidden. It was rather a joke, tbh; we visit our Gdańsk Philharmony as frequently as we can.
@Telkitty so it's hardly comparable to the Nexus
 
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I have apps on Android, iphone and windows phone, I can't possibly buy every model of iphone/android/window's phone under the sky
 
@BartekBanachewicz How much is that?
 
3:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes around $400 in here.
 
@Telkitty nah just owner of 2 devices, messing around with noob apps in my freetime, just that Scott and Bartek got a little agitated when I said that to get it all to work wasn't too hard. Guess I didn't empathize enough with the hardship of getting a polished GUI app for multiple devices is a PITA
 
@BartekBanachewicz Dollars?
 
@Telkitty We have pretty much everything at work
@R.MartinhoFernandes uh, if you are asking about the Nexus 4 price in Poland, then yes, it's around $400
 
Wait, isn't the latest one the 7?
 
where are the girls at?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope, the 4
 
@BartekBanachewicz Berlin's a lot closer, and the Berlin Philharmonic is also excellent. Vienna's a bit further away, but is like a candy box, full of classical music venues.
 
Xeo
The smartphone one
 
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@rhalbersma depends on that you are doing in your apps, an app can as easy or sophisticated as you want it to be
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no monthly fee my ass
 
Xeo
3:20 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shitty story and controls.
 
@JerryCoffin There are relatively cheap trains to Vienna. I'd be glad to visit it again.
 
@BartekBanachewicz There are monthly payments in-game with in-game currency. That doesn't count.
 
Xeo
No ghost healer
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I hate that game.. (not really though)
 
@refp log out duh
 
3:20 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think they left out the "Fully Immsersive 3D experience"
 
also "incredible AI"
just look at
2
 
I like "fully PvP".
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd like to also -- unfortunately, somewhat expensive from here.
 
your life score is determined by your SO rep
 
@JerryCoffin How much would a train to Vienna cost you from there?
 
3:22 PM
speaking of Vienna... Ultravox!!
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes there are trains Jerry can catch to Vienna from where he is??
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm...doing a quick check, it appears the price is about $500, though there's this strange note about "+200 billion dollar surcharge for first passenger"...
 
@Xeo There's a highly detailed and IMO quite interesting backstory, though.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yay! I'm winning!
 
I am going home
 
3:27 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Later!
 
1769: A 10yo girl drowns in Rotterdam - but is resuscitated by a crowd of volunteers, who take turns blowing tobacco smoke into her rectum.
The previous one was not weird enough.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There's way too much farming
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes weird might be a bit of an understatement
 
@kbok Practically everybody spends most of their time in some sort of "gold farming".
 
@JerryCoffin I seriously wonder what fun they find in that.
 
3:41 PM
Who the fuck put C in the room title?
That's dangerous!
 
@kbok Most clearly don't!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe we could use "C++ - C" to signify the parts of C++ we'd remove first, given a chance?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like to live dangerously.
 
@kbok Had a friend I rode with years ago who never got the hang of track-standing or getting his feet out of toe clips, so when he had to stop, he'd literally fall over -- only he did it kind of gracefully, and ended up rolled completely over, lying on his back with the bike sticking straight up in the air. Be a hell of a trick with this one...
 
3:48 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Not sure what was going on. [c++] [c++11] [coliru] [no-helpdesk]
 
@JerryCoffin That sure isn't very practical in the traffic.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Apparently something is going on. [c++] [c++11] [coliru] [no-helpdesk]
 
@kbok No, but Wayne wasn't big on practicality.
 
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Q: Prgrammatic call to jquery .change() not firing event attached with bind change on hidden field

oucilI've been searching for possible clues for hours and have come up blank so I turn to you in your great wisdom to lend a hand... So I've got a form, and within that form there is a field I call a selection tool, made of two parts, a field to display a friendly label, and a hidden field to store t...

What the fuck does "prgrammatic" mean?
 
Yo fools
 
3:52 PM
Yo fool.
 
@Griwes Misspelling of "Programmatic" would be my guess.
 
On my way back from The Googles
 
You'd know if you were a prgrammer.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes wh... wh... what?!
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks, captain.
 
3:53 PM
@DeadMG How was London today?
 
@DeadMG How did it go?
 
@DeadMG And...?
 
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Once I did the Gong ride - 90km in 5 hours
 
I think it went well
The questions were easier than expected
 
@Xeo Well, yeah.
 
3:54 PM
@DeadMG lol that must be the first time I hear that
 
Maybe they assumed I was dumb :P
 
Twist: It's the janitor position
 
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I am going for the half marathon in May :D
 
Lol rapptz
 
@Rapptz The Janitor is awesome
 
3:55 PM
Janitor by day, language designer by night.
 
Lol - The Caped Wide Implementer
Btw
Holy cockfucking shit Google was swanky
 
@DeadMG in what way?
 
@TonyTheLion In a holy cockfucking shit way!
 
lol
 
3:57 PM
Really nice free food, nice marble floors, etc
Not that I actually ate any aforementioned food
 
Well I've heard the big tech companies have fancy workplaces.
Valve, Google, etc
 
I also used a Chromebook
 
You poor soul.
 
It was awful
The keyboard layout was all different.
 
Wait what?
 
3:59 PM
@DeadMG How so?
 
It wasn't a QWERTY?
 
You mean physically, or in software?
 
It was qwerty but enter was wrong size and no caps lock or delete keys
 
New keyboard layout: ABCDEF
 
Who needs Caps Lock.
Delete is interesting, but fuck Caps Lock.
 
4:00 PM
I do
 
Real men hold shift.
 
I DO NEED CAPS LOCK
 
Need caps lock a lot
 
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@DeadMG I used to work for an option trading company whose competitor has chiefs providing cooked lunch everyday. We get to team building in 5 star resort. The other company I worked for send us traveling in business class (to london & NY). Nice things are nice to show off to other people, it does not make you happy
 
No, wait, if there's no physical Caps Lock... how do I press Esc?
 
4:01 PM
@DeadMG Lots 'o macros?
 
I use caps lock for every capital letter
7
 
Are you trolling us?
 
lol
 
Please say "yes".
 
No
 
4:02 PM
GTFO
 
Still no
 
I am disappoint.
 
Btw i assume the Unicode discussion hasn't been better in my absence
 
Only old people that learned to type on a typewriter are excused.
 
Did you forget to press caps lock for that I
7
 
4:03 PM
haha
@DeadMG Nothing new since your last message, actually.
 
@DeadMG Don't change the subject.
 
I'm on my iPhone it does caps not me
 
is tuple_cat magic
I don't know how it works
 
No
 
@Rapptz Not really.
 
4:05 PM
@Rapptz Magnets.
 
How does it work?
 
My implementation was messy as fuck, but a normal one is simpler.
 
Magic
 
@Telkitty If you ever get to Colorado, try this one. Much shorter, and nice enough scenery nobody will worry if you ride it a bit more slowly (of course, the 10% grade and 1200+ meter elevation gain might slow things down a bit as well...)
 
In Python I can't concat tuples so when I learned I could in C++ I thought it was weird.
 
4:06 PM
@Rapptz With magnets.
 
ITT: robot is messy as fuck
 
@DeadMG At least he doesn't use caps lock for single letters.
 
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@JerryCoffin If I ever get to Colorado, there would a lot of things I would want to do, hiking for example :p
 
@Telkitty Definitely a few nice places to hike... :-)
 
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4:08 PM
My not so secret ambition is that I want to be able to do at least 3 of the top 10 best hiking trail in the world $
 
@Rapptz With index packs, I'd expect.
 
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I need people to do it with :(
 
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Hiking with strangers is dangerous
 
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especially when doing the top 10 - low level of danger is expected
 
How'd your implementation go?
 
4:09 PM
@Telkitty Yeah, because they could go and peep in your house.
 
Let me check how libstdc++ does it
 
@Telkitty IMO, attempting to pick the top 10 hikes in the world is pretty ridiculous.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel I am serious, it is like you should go diving with a buddy, your buddy needs to be reliable because it could be life or death
 
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same with over night hiking, what if you got lost? what if you injure yourself?
 
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what if you are attacked by wild animals, bitten by poisonous insects?
 
4:11 PM
@Rapptz It's all over the place... bitbucket.org/martinhofernandes/wheels/src/…
 
libstdc++'s isn't any better
  template<typename... _Tpls, typename = typename
           enable_if<__and_<__is_tuple_like<_Tpls>...>::value>::type>
    constexpr auto
    tuple_cat(_Tpls&&... __tpls)
    -> typename __tuple_cat_result<_Tpls...>::__type
    {
      typedef typename __tuple_cat_result<_Tpls...>::__type __ret;
      typedef typename __make_1st_indices<_Tpls...>::__type __idx;
      typedef __tuple_concater<__ret, __idx, _Tpls...> __concater;
      return __concater::_S_do(std::forward<_Tpls>(__tpls)...);
    }
 
@Telkitty I guess that this is quite common in Australia.
 
Actually looking at it like that it looks okay
 
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@JerryCoffin The few I could think of are: mountain everest base camp, the alps, Canadian rocky, milford sound in new zealand & cradle mountain in Australia
 
Mine has to do crazy shit like this:
Optimal layout is not closed under concatenation.
 
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4:13 PM
@EtiennedeMartel have you ever done camping in the wild before?
 
@Telkitty Sure. But the forests in Quebec aren't that hostile to human life.
 
@Rapptz you can concat tuples in python with +
 
In Python 2.7?
 
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@EtiennedeMartel One of the guys I have dated told me he saw wolves running along with the train when he was in Canada, there are wolves in Quebec , no?
 
@Telkitty Most of those aren't single hikes though -- for obvious examples, either the Alps or the Canadian Rockies covers hundreds (probably thousands) of different hikes.
 
4:16 PM
@Rapptz yep
 
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@JerryCoffin True
 
Cool.
 
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@JerryCoffin Most tracks are just a couple of days hike
 
@Telkitty Yeah, but they're scared of humans.
 
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Not a pack of wolves
 
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4:18 PM
We are not talking about doggies
 
They won't attack unless they're really desperate.
 
@Telkitty You're worried about the wrong things. Although both are pretty good at avoiding humans (and generally will), Bears are much more dangerous than wolves.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh yes.
 
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The worst is getting lost
 
Is it possible to step trough a debug .lib file with visual studio ?
 
4:20 PM
I mostly go fishing anyway, not so much camping.
 
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The panic kicks in, you walk in the direction you think is right, then comes the cliff or dense bush
 
@EtiennedeMartel Wolves are cowards.
 
ITT wolves are pussies
 
Hm, I'm late to class now.
Later.
 
4:21 PM
@Telkitty Or giant robot spiders that shoot lasers.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You have those in Canada too? Sounds like a dangerous country.
 
@kbok Pew pew.
 
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wolves
 
Or are giant robot spiders that shoot lasers afraid of humans too? :D
 
4:22 PM
They're afraid of robot humans.
 
@Telkitty Carry a GPS. You don't have to use it all the time, but have one along.
 
They're afraid of @Martinho?
Don't take a voice-only GPS though, because it would only say "you're in the middle of nowhere"
 
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@JerryCoffin I have never done with real hard core hiking
 
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the longest I have done is like 2 days
 
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but it is real camping
 
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4:24 PM
20km each day, carry your own tent & food
 
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and was with a experienced guide and 20+ others
 
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I have also done the 35km return in a day hike
 
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It was like 7 degrees outside, but when I got back to the top of the mountain, my t-shirt was drenched in sweat
 
@kbok ...but do that they have sharks with lasers?
 
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sign wolf pups are so cute
 
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4:29 PM
but then again I tend to think a lot of things are cute
 
This is cute.
 
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Once I thought a rat was cute, so I tried to catch it & was bitten by it. A lot of my relatives still remember that, I was only 7 or 8 years old when I did that :x
 
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@EtiennedeMartel this tends to get into the house a lot here:
 
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@Telkitty If you read through what most people consider ideal characteristics in a dog, they're basically looking for wolf pups.
 
4:33 PM
@Telkitty I can't help but imagine it saying "sup?"
 
@Telkitty So what is that?
 
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@EtiennedeMartel they are harmless, just psychological thing they have on some people when they are in your bedroom
 
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@ShafikYaghmour huntsman spider
 
Xeo
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Somebody please turn down the heater. [c++] [c++11] [coliru] [no-helpdesk]
 
4:38 PM
Anybody here familiar with serial ports and use thereof? (writing/reading).
 
@Telkitty nope
 
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huh?
 
@TonyTheLion Not too tempted to move there, I take it?
 
@Xeo lolwat
@JerryCoffin not really, though it's on my list of places to go on holiday
 
What exactly does <iosfwd> forward declare?
Everything in iostream?
 
4:47 PM
@Rapptz ...and stringstream, fstream, ...
 
Hmm..
 
Should I (generally) prefer const std::string& here: std::function<void(std::string)>
Or does it not matter much?
 
Move semantics means if you explicitly std::move you get the choice of either making a copy or not (if you pass by value)
 
@ThePhD I don't think that's what move semantics means. You don't always have the choice (the object can be non-copyable).
 
I don't really understand why std::string should be preferred over std::string const &.
 
4:52 PM
If you're going to end up storing that string,
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Well, it will make an extra copy.
 
Figured so.
 
passing by value means you can either func( std::move( mystr ) ) or explicitly make a copy with func (mystr)
 
I don't really like the verbosity const ref here.
 
Inside the function, you can either just use the string regularly or std::move it into a class variable or something (if it's passed by value)
A const reference should be preferred if you're not actually storing the string, however.
Ugggggghhhhhhh.
Fuck you, mSVC >_<
 
4:57 PM
@ThePhD what now? :3
 
It's just these variadics.
Whenever I use them to do anything with std::function, it always "fails to specialize BLAH BLAH BLAH"
 

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