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1:00 PM
@llonesmiz are you going to make this a habit? I mean, you could as well lift the whole comment to an answer, and I'd be happy to expand it when I find it. If I think I'd really add something different, I'll just add my own answer — sehe Mar 17 at 3:01
 
@MartinJames I got +0, suckers!
 
@melak47 It just means you never answered any interesting questions :)
 
I just want to commt suicde with this.
 
@sehe welp.
 
1:00 PM
@sehe yeah, I have...183 rep? lol
 
@melak47 lol. be careful, it might vanish on a windy day.
 
and then I can't chat :o
 
@melak47 ohoho.
because getting 2 upvotes is totally hard, yeah
Also, if I got -36, that probably means he upvoted me 4 times and downvoted twice :)
 
@sehe That's gonna be a fat red bar on your graph hehe
Unless you spend the day repwhoring like... like... like a whore.
 
oh... C++ IO streams, Y U SUCK SO MUCH?
 
1:05 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I won't. I don't really get why rep by deleted users needs to be removed anyways
 
user1357851
@sehe Oo, thanks for enlighten me. Tell me, is my avatar porn? Surely if my avatar is pornographic so is robot's right?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's pretty much impossible to get 850 rep in one day
 
OMG WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS OBSESSION WITH ALTAIRA ON MY AVATAR.
 
@Telkitty Apparently it is, or you wouldn't have chosen it
 
DUDE IT'S FROM THE 1950S.
 
1:06 PM
Some of the best porn is from the 1950s
 
If that was alright in mainstream cinema in the 1950s, I think it's fine today.
 
Is it bad that up until just now, when I had to get a letter saying to send of for student loans repayment, that I didn't actually know how much exactly I was earning?
 
user1357851
@R.MartinhoFernandes classic porn, robot, you have taste I must say :x
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh. Casual racism avatar it is then?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is that the useless wench having to be carried?
 
1:07 PM
I was gonna say something like that ^
 
@LucDanton She's white!
 
No I mean I'm sure I can find something that was also alright in mainstream cinema in the 50s.
 
Xeo
Hmm... it feels like there's a better way than two ifs to have a value wrap around both ways
 
@sehe like what I said? I find it very hard to to believe you would say something like what I said
@R.MartinhoFernandes hardly, in the 1950s it was still ok to take a seat from some one on a bus just because they are black and you are white
 
@Xeo Adjust around zero, mod, deadjust? First thing that came to mind, going to be fiddly either way.
 
1:10 PM
@thecoshman Godammit, how's that related to the pornographic value of my avatar?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you stopping us from taking your words at face value and out of context?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooh, well if we are just talking about the pornographic value then yes, we are sluttier now then ever before
 
There is no pron in avatars. Wait, I'll find something to give a good example of porn in an avatar?
 
//  Any pitfalls with this construction?
// Usage: `GetTypeName<int>()` yields std::string("int")
template<typename T>
struct GetTypeName : std::string {
    GetTypeName() : std::string(Demangle(typeid(T).name())) {}
};
 
Xeo
Why make it a type?
 
1:12 PM
@Guriwesu @dozba The fact that you think this issue is black and white shows how ignorant you really are about women's issues in tech.
 
Xeo
Hmm.. I want 0 to wrap back aroudn to num... meh.
 
@Xeo Because I want to specialize for wrapper types. I want them to show inner type.
 
This guy cannot even answer a simple question.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked I see
 
@StackedCrooked why inherit from string?
 
1:13 PM
@Abyx Because that allows a convenient usage syntax: GetTypeName<int>(). Without inheritance I'd need to use: GetTypeName<int>().get() or GetTypeName<int>()().
 
user142019
What is plural of status?
 
user142019
Statuses or stati?
 
> How does C++ handle things when an exception is thrown while throwing an exception?
 
@StackedCrooked why not function?
 
lol why someone starred that?
 
Xeo
1:14 PM
1 min ago, by StackedCrooked
@Xeo Because I want to specialize for wrapper types. I want them to show inner type.
 
@Griwes Wait, you must be looking for more opportunities to argue on the internet, now, am I right?
 
@sehe Nah, I was just trying to get an answer from him. I was not going to argue, just see if he can reason about what he wrote. He can't, so I don't care about that moron anymore.
 
// e.g.:
template<typename T, typename Disambiguator>
struct GetTypeName<StrongTypedef<T, Disambiguator> > : GetTypeName<T> {};
 
There is plenty of opportunities for arguments on the Internet :P
 
@Zoidberg Statuses.
 
1:15 PM
Anyway, I am just killing my faith in people.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes Dankjewel.
 
@Zoidberg "Danke schön"
 
Stati?
 
In latin: status, IIRC
 
In English it's "statuses".
And yeah, lol, it's not even "stati" in Latin.
 
1:16 PM
@Griwes No, he did (later), he just rightly reminded you that you are over-simplifying the issue
 
hobbitses
 
user1357851
My PC has frozen again because I am using eclipse to test an app on Android, sigh
 
@TonyTheLion Yup, I remembered correctly:
> That’s because the Latin word “status” doesn’t have “stati” as its plural, it has “status” as its plural. (The vowel actually changes from short to long, and it’d be too complicated to explain how it’s in a different declension and thus has a different (nominative) plural form, but you should definitely not write “stati.”)
(that's U-declination, the way I remember, but the term may be 'non-normative" :))
 
@KonradRudolph I hate this, he came looked for support to his argument and you just made him wrong. :(
 
@sehe It's with a macron!
You know what's annoying?
 
1:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yup. More flatliners for me
 
@sehe Oh
 
I am just going to enter into an argument against someone that said "you should never pass shared_ptr by const reference"
 
-49 31 mins ago removed User was removed FUCKER
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that for real?
 
1:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just point to your answer. You didn't update it for nothing (2 days ago?)
 
@LuchianGrigore sehe got a lot more
 
@Zoidberg hey, you there?
 
@Xeo Hm, I need to support tuple<StrongTypedef<...>> as well. Perhaps I should apply a regex to the result lol.
 
so, any idea who this user is who has stolen all our rep... it's not zoidberg again is it?
 
@sehe So what does a prompt like that look like anyway?
 
1:19 PM
@thecoshman nope, scroll up
 
@thecoshman Zoidberg is an asshole that never upvoted me before he ragequit.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Write a blog post, link to it. Makes it look like more authoritative.
 
@LucDanton as a flatline... it was a dumb joke and a misnomer. It's just the default prompt, really
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wait, what?
 
@BartekBanachewicz where to?
 
Xeo
1:19 PM
> against someone that said "you should never pass shared_ptr by const reference"
 
@Angew unless you are talking about code that is broken anyway regardless of using shared_ptr or not, that is just wrong. — R. Martinho Fernandes 1 min ago
 
@LuchianGrigore Look at tghe starboard. But welcome to the club of people who answered mildly interesting c++ questions over the last year
 
oh Agnew
 
@sehe Ya I figured actual macrons would look bad. Default by standards anyway?
 
@thecoshman here
 
1:20 PM
he points out my mistakes regularly
 
@LucDanton default ubuntu bash prompt
 
user142019
@LuchianGrigore yes why.
 
I didn't lose any rep
:)
 
hmm...
 
@Zoidberg thought you ragequitted again
 
user142019
1:21 PM
Nein.
 
I actually feel cool for losing rep for the first time
 
@Xeo It's the second time this happens actually.
 
@LuchianGrigore User llonesmiz had recently become the 'second' person to be active in . I was fairly happy with that.
 
user142019
 
user142019
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
1:22 PM
Mmh, I only get dollaz, as they say in the vernacular.
 
@sehe apparently, you don't know the type of questions I answer...
 
Wonder how much Jon Skeet lost?
 
@Zoidberg only <1% of my loss :0
@TonyTheLion Zero
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, I just read that his argument was "bad stuff may happen if you do"
 
@sehe So unfair :(
 
1:22 PM
@LuchianGrigore I do. I wasn't mentioning the other 99%
 
@StackedCrooked I'm not sure. I think I agree.
 
Xeo
I thought it was the usual "don't pass shared_ptr by const-ref, instead choose what semantics you want - ownership, manipulate shared_ptr, manipulate the pointed-to thing"
 
ITT Repwhores mourn the loss of hard earned rep.
2
 
Xeo
In which case, I was wondering why you'd argue against that
 
user142019
1:23 PM
Priority        INT             CHECK (Priority BETWEEN -2 AND 2),
 
user142019
Is this the usual way to do it in SQL?
 
@Zoidberg Usual? Nein. Legal? Probably
 
user142019
Warum nicht?
 
user142019
Would you create a table with priorities and use foreign keys? :v
 
user142019
Or an enum?
 
1:25 PM
-1
A: shared_ptr copy

metalYes, another thread could come in and reset src to null or a new value between the opening brace adding of a reference. The ref counting in shared_ptr is itself thread-safe, but the pointer/pointee are not and require a mutex to prevent issues. Consider: std::shared_ptr<int> src( new int(...

And look, someone came and said "if you use this function with broken code you get broken code".
 
@Zoidberg Heut-zu-tage database layers sind manchmal "thin", das heißt, die Business Logik sitzt in "highlevel programming language" quellen Kode.
 
ohhh Deutsch
 
user142019
Then why have relationships at all!
 
user142019
You can do them in code!
 
@Zoidberg I'd create a dumb table and perhaps a trigger that would check the business logic. Said trigger would preferrably be constructed in C#
@Zoidberg cough
43
A: Joins are for lazy people?

seheWell, he is wrong in the general case. Databases are able to optimize using a variety of methods, helped by optimizer hints, table indexes, foreign key relationships and possibly other database vendor specific information.

 
1:29 PM
Also, have you heard about Blockscape?
The guy took cloning minecraft seriously
 
It looks like that shipwreck game... 'truckers' or something?
 
user142019
@sehe how are joins relevant?
 
4 mins ago, by Zoidberg
Then why have relationships at all!
 
user142019
You don't need to specify relationships in order to perform joins.
 
1:32 PM
joins are the 'consumption' of relations, in a way. Relations define (implicitely, at least) indexes
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh, I think I've seen that in action. not really a clone, very heavily based on, but not a clone.
 
@thecoshman yeah, I agree here
 
user1357851
@sehe but this relation will yield no extra kids
 
There are certainly some ideas I could steal use
 
user1357851
just two tables share something in common
 
1:32 PM
@Zoidberg I know. So, the reverse might be true: you can have joins without relations, however, joins are very much related to relations, as having relations without ever joining would be useless
 
like the grass, for example
 
user142019
@sehe Note that I meant explicit relationships, e.g. ProjectId BIGINT REFERENCES Projects(Id) ON DELETE CASCADE NOT NULL,.
 
@BartekBanachewicz FWIW some of the screenies are really pretty
 
@sehe Foliage is nice. And I actually think I can reproduce some parts of it
 
@Zoidberg I think I knew what you meant. See my message. It's just not unrelated to joins.
 
1:33 PM
meh, no, no, no.
I can't start adding new features
 
user142019
@sehe OIC
 
user1357851
@ScottW I volunteer Bartek Banachewicz coz he plonked me and can not read this
 
@ScottW so you know who to plonk today
 
user1357851
Haha, this is going to be interesting
 
1:37 PM
anyways.
 
user1357851
making fun of people who can not read
 
user142019
@sehe Currently I do almost all validation in the database. :L
 
Is such a gif okay?
It looks very nice imo.
 
The problem with gifs is that they keep blinking until you chat them away.
 
user142019
> SFW
 
user142019
1:40 PM
lolwot
 
@Zoidberg explicit sfw-ness declaration
 
@BartekBanachewicz who dares to interpolate away the perfect square voxels?!
 
@melak47 hey, he is improving!
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz no shit Sherlock.
 
user142019
1:41 PM
But why; it's obvious.
 
hmm
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that will probably get a lot more attention
 
those new Protoss blinkstalker builds in HoTS are tough.
 
Protoss
/topic
 
I clicked the NSFW link :P
 
1:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Hi
 
Hi Mr. Monocle
 
Mr. Monopole.
Sounds terrible.
@R.MartinhoFernandes All right, good point. Noted for the future. It's just that I ran afoul of this in our production code recently. Normally I'd delete the comment, but I'll leave it here so that the rest of the discussion makes sense. — Angew 3 mins ago
 
fuck knows
 
> The Dining Philosophers wait while Jon Skeet eats.
 
Cool, turned out the guy was reasonable.
 
1:44 PM
we can't see the code
fuck it then
 
posted on March 22, 2013

Whenever a problem turns out to be harder to solve than we expected, it makes sense to ask whether perhaps we were solving the wrong problem in the first place.

 
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Q: Improving handling of deleted answers

JookIn a short period I stumbled on two occasions where an answer was deleted. I think in both cases it was the user who posted the answer, but I am only somewhat sure in the one case and hoping with the other. My point is, it is strange to have useful answers suddenly deleted, without any explanati...

^ the llonesmiz guy was noted before for erratic behaviour
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
1:46 PM
enum struct std {
    aids,
    hiv,
    gonorrhea,
    herpes
};
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you are horrible.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol. /cc @telkitty more robot porn
 
man, I want to go home and code minicraft
 
user142019
@ScottW Geniale wratten.
 
user142019
 
dude wtf
I clicked that link
 
user142019
That was my intention.
 
offs
I'm not clicking that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you robot you.
now he actually made it worse :/
 
1:53 PM
Oh.. std::STD. I should'a had more coffee before coming back :(
 
user1357851
Eclipse/Android app has frozen my PC for the 6th time today.
 
oh coffee, that's what's missing
 
first Win7 bluescreen :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit congrats :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Impressive! What driver blew up?
 
1:55 PM
Hmm, no one starred my link. Figures.
 
or, perhaps 'blue up'?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not gross enough.
 
@MartinJames I honestly have no idea. I crafted it by hand and never looked back.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am a dismal failure. I have had no BSODs on W7 or Vista. I'm not trying hard enough.
I'll try Eclipse. Maybe that will work.
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no blue screen on my win7, it just does not respond
 
@Telkitty No Task Manager either?
 

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