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10:01 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes is it worse than const on mutable objects?
 
Right. I just said that in my particular case having that saves me needing location.
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ooooh. Only care to know which input failed with what output? Then you can 'trace' back to the offending bit of code?
Ah, that is what you said. Got it.
 
Gonna sleep now for sure.
 
Basically I am explaining why I didn't think further about getting the location there. Too much effort, too little gain, at least for now.
In .NET you usually get full stack traces with test failures :/
 
10:08 AM
fuck it. I'm tired of writing [this](arg list){ method(arg list); }
 
Xeo
[]method :D
 
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user1804599
@Xeo how’s that proposal coming along?
 
Xeo
Not
 
user1804599
Is it being reviewed?
 
Xeo
10:08 AM
No time etc
 
user1804599
Oh. :v
 
Xeo
pff
 
Also there's a hairy situation with generic stuff of what you want to happen if e.g. a used-to-be bidi range is suddenly forward only: do you want the build to fail now, with an instantiation stack; or do you want to still build everything to get a bird's eye view and report the error when running the test? Maybe the range changed because you changed a dependency, and not the range code itself. And that could be affecting other places, so seeing them all at once can give you a hint.
 
user1804599
I want D’s contracts in C++.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Do both - with different defines?
 
10:09 AM
Testing generic code is really annoying :(
 
@Xeo Haha, EnableIf<Or<SomeConcept<T>, LETS_BUILD_THIS_STUFF>>...?
 
Is there an easy way to toggle 'bits' for a particular scons target so that I can implement that?
scons test -Dblarg kind of deal I suppose
 
Variables?
 
I'm more interested in how do I pass stuff via the command line than the SConstruct itself.
 
10:13 AM
I use scons test=name
 
> The original band infamously had their career cut short by a disastrous plane crash in 1977 which took the lives of three members plus two of their road crew and seriously injured several others
wait what.
 
What's the problem?
 
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Q: Is this correct way to create memory leak?

YoungI want to create a memory leak by using C#, so I write the following code try to create one. The concept is to write a explicit Dispose which do nothing but call GC.SuppressFinalize() to prevent the GC's work. But it seams like the memory doesn't leak when I was running the code. Can anyone help...

 
user1804599
Fuck you, Adobe Flash.
 
10:15 AM
I survived the seminar
I even asked the stupid ass questions about shit I don't care about
But mostly because people were talking out of their asses
 
Good.
 
user1804599
What’s a seminar?
 
user1804599
Oh, werkcollege.
 
Something that manages to be even more boring than a lecture
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
user1804599
10:17 AM
IME nah.
 
user1804599
We got about seven lectures last year and they were all boring. :P
 
@CatPlusPlus What was it about?
 
user1804599
Seminars were sometimes quite fun.
 
Because it's a sort-of lecture, but people talking have mostly no idea what they are talking about
Well, more than lecturers, typically
 
user1804599
OOP class was hilarious.
 
10:20 AM
@Jefffrey Web-related crap mostly
 
user1804599
RDBMS class was the only interesting thing I can remember.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what
 
First guy talked about FTP and SMTP as fucking part of the web
Ugh
 
user1804599
Haha.
 
user1804599
World Wide Internet
 
10:21 AM
@CatPlusPlus oh that's sweet of you
also my ass is part of the internet
 
Also your mom
Question 4: what the fuck are you taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalking about
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh btw I'm having second (or is that third?) thoughts about ad-hoc polymorphism via unrestricted overloading vs say, overloading via type classes. Mostly due to the fact some EDSLs might not turn out to be very nice monads, but do-notation can still be useful: which is exactly what RebindableSyntax achieves. (Ditto arrows and arrow notation.)
 
what's with all the questions?
 
user1804599
That’s the question.
 
"WEB" seems a pretty wide term to me.
 
10:28 AM
No, that's "Internet"
 
A web is a silken structure created by a spider. Web may also refer to: Computing * World Wide Web or "the Web", a hypertext system that operates over the Internet ** Web 2.0, a perceived transition of the Web from a collection of Web sites to a full-fledged computing platform serving Web applications ** WorldWideWeb, the first web browser and editor ** Web (web browser), the web browser included with GNOME desktop environment (previously known as Epiphany) ** Web.com, a public company that offers websites and other services for small businesses and consumers ** Webs (web hosting), a...
 
Web is mostly just HTTP-based crap
 
user1804599
The web is a collection of web pages. :v:
 
> World Wide Web or "the Web", a hypertext system that operates over the Internet
Oh.
 
user1804599
Well, and web APIs, probably. And all the related crap.
 
10:31 AM
TIL, I guess.
 
user1804599
Web development seems fun, until you want to vertically center something using CSS.
 
user1804599
From that point on it is a terrible nightmare.
 
Yeah, CSS sucks. But except for text, why would you align something vertically in a web page?
 
yeah, people seem to consider 'internet' and 'web' as synonyms
 
user1804599
Because the terrible designer hands you a terrible PSD file that has something vertically centered that could be of different sizes depending on other factors the designer didn’t think about.
 
10:37 AM
@Jefffrey some people like a central 'content' panel, rather than one to the side
 
user1804599
Also fun: getting a PSD with a background image that is not large enough.
 
Also: position: relative; top: 50%; margin-top: -half-height;.
 
user1804599
And then having them complain the background image doesn’t cover the entire page.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey Flexbox makes it easy, but then the client also wants IE 7 and IE 8 support.
 
lol IE + CSS. What a beautiful couple.
 
10:39 AM
Hmm - Virgin Media seems to have just gone a bit funny. Can't resolve some domains or connect to some sites
 
user1804599
Front-end web development is pretty easy if you don’t have to give a shit about anything that isn’t the latest version of Google Chrome.
 
Oh, no, Windows's fault. My NIC has gone fairy
 
time to get the old reliable dedicated card out then :P
 
Thank you, however it was who suggested ifstream. That was so incredibly easy.
 
@Carter81 You can edit your messages.
 
10:48 AM
@StevenPenny Oh, hey, I thought this was solved over a year back :/ I thought the above information was enough to get it sorted. Anyways, I've added a bit of script that put together dd and zlib-flate to do the work. Does that help? — sehe 36 secs ago
^ I must be mad
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Ohai everyone
@Carter81 Wrong. And it's more annoying.
@Carter81 Skype has it too
 
@sehe meh newbs
 
@Carter81 Hahahahaha. Use it more than one time, maybe? Then we'll talk
 
@Carter81 can you stop doing that?
 
I change field in database, field doesn't change in the app
 
That makes it a bit faster in some cases.
 
10:50 AM
You can stop ranting now. Please come back after you've read the newbie hints.
 
whistles
 
Are you always so uptight and sehe-like?
 
WHERE ARE THE NEWBIE HINTS?
 
About that stupid "could care less" btw
 
10:51 AM
Why would I read the newbie hints?
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@Carter81 because you are a newbie here, apparently.
 
Who are you and why are you here
 
@sehe we ran out of funding
 
@Carter81 Because you're making a fool of yourself by being very loud and obnoxious about "not caring" and "I can annoy who I want". You can. Just not here. Bye
 
You act like I should conform to your rules and idiotic social faux pa's. It is not like I want to belong in a community of users who hang out in a chat all day long.
 
10:52 AM
Then get the fuck out already
 
@Carter81 then get the fuck out jesus
 
Yes, I am making a fool of myself. It couldn't be that sehe is a troll-like person.
I am sorry, does my presence bother you, because I do not care to conform to your trollish demands? :(
 
If you are new here, please read the code of conduct. Thank you
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But you said you care
Because you can care less
 
Why would I read the code of conduct?
 
10:53 AM
Oh my gawd.
 
I have low patience today
 
@Carter81 now who the hell is trolling here, oi?
 
@Carter81 It's never very useful to go vocally proclaim your abrasiveness. That's an objective fact.
 
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
 
10:53 AM
There, is the message clear now?
 
that's a direct representation of getting a cannon to kill a fly (or whatever the idiom is in english)
 
@Carter81 You wouldn't, obviously. You'd just STFU and leave. Every one else will just ignore ou
 
I might just leave it for the entire day
 
@BartekBanachewicz Something like using a hammer to crack a nut.
 
I use screwdrivers for that
And I'm not kidding, I actually do that
 
10:55 AM
I use, well, nutcracker. But then again, I'm weird.
 
Screw hammers. They're nuts
 
lel. Also it's pretty easy to use just hands actually if you grab a few of them.
 
I don't eat nuts. Or, at least, not of the raw variety.
So how are you all doing today?
 
@CatPlusPlus the real C++ room, here I come
 
Also sehe do your message in bold and everything, so we don't have so many pins
That previous one is getting old anyway
 
10:56 AM
@sehe I am kind of angry, because I've skipped classes and sent a friend to write me up on the list, but he overslept
 
That's karma
 
Ahahah.
 
more like shitty schedule
 
Xeo
The fuck's going on again
 
10:57 AM
oh my, nearly lunch time
 
Just permadetonating some idiots
 
can you (not-perma)detonate someone?
 
Business as usual
 
@CatPlusPlus Can you do the honours for me? g2g
 
When I can come up with a new joke
 
10:59 AM
That's probably not the room you're looking for, but read the user's manual anyway.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ouch
 
@BartekBanachewicz Scheduled work and day studies don't mix well in general
 
@CatPlusPlus My boss wanted some sort of a "when can I expect you here" thingy so...
 
user1804599
11:11 AM
Ah, locked room.
 
user1804599
Cool.
 
eh too much
Is that an improvement?
 
@melak47 That LiveFeed mod looks like it works with 0.22, but I can't get client/server to work :v
@thecoshman
 
Xeo
@LucDanton BOOST_CHECK_EQUAL( additional(capabilities), nothing_else ); -- lol
 
11:20 AM
What's the matter with that?
 
Xeo
Nothing, just finding the nothing_else funny
 
The alternative being 0u. And I'm probably going to switch to an enum to provide an operator<<.
 
11:32 AM
@Xeo After scratching my head I still think it's appropriate: you're always going to check the traversal first.
 
@CatPlusPlus Hmm.
 
@Xeo It's actually pretty serious bsns ya know!
 
11:56 AM
I need a good example of game design.
Something inspirational.
 

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