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7:00 PM
Sorry to just barge in here and ask a question but I'm interested in knowing some decent resources for learning CoreAudio, and I don't think that sort of question is suitable for either StackOverflow or Programmers.
 
How? I know both.
 
@EtiennedeMartel unless you have installed PPL @1.0, then you'll have to change a few things in configure used when compiling gcc47
 
@Drise Qt Creator needs dev tools to work. That means you still need to install Xcode.
 
Scala is cool only when you're restricted to the world of JVM.
 
user1182183
so you need a C++ compiler to build a C/C++ compiler? -> gcc
 
7:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus Doesn't seem like a huge restriction.
The JVM runs on fucking everything.
 
Yeah, but if you're not forced to JVM, why bother.
 
@GamErix no, I do count them because they are lines of code that I'd have to read and understand to answer your question. If that weren't the case, you shouldn't have posted them. Also, it's Moo-ing, not Moon-ing. Srsly.
 
Of course.
 
developing android apps using scala is quite cool
erhm..
 
Still, if you have to do Java, then why not do Scala instead?
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7:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus Scala also runs on the CLR.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It was a very annoying and lengthy process, and I was not impressed.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, that I can agree with.
 
@Drise It was a next > next > next > finish in my case, but eh.
 
@MooingDuck MooningDuck, are you sure?
 
user1182183
Mooing Duck, sorry for my typo's, I'm just a human, who isn't perfect, nor can't program in C++ reliably
 
7:02 PM
@CatPlusPlus The JVM is a very good platform for Web apps. Or for any kind of apps, really.
It's just that Java, as a language, sucks balls.
 
@FredOverflow CLR has F#.
 
@GamErix Use the reply to arrow, it helps. Or use the @.
 
user1182183
@Drise ok
 
user1182183
xd
 
@EtiennedeMartel I haven't seen JVM webapp that wouldn't make me want to kill it with fire.
Deploying and running this shit is a fucking pain.
And the simplest one devours resources like crazy.
 
7:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, but it's webscale.
 
Shitscale.
 
(I'm funny)
 
@EtiennedeMartel So are many Java programmers who simply wouldn't get Scala.
@CatPlusPlus I don't know F#, is it somehow superior to Scala?
 
Jun 11 at 12:54, by sehe
OMIGAD - I just received a request to help out at another client. They still use CA:Gen and COBOL. Now they want me to _hack_ an 'external program' of theirs, so that it no longer appears to depend on the Oracle OCI dlls (part of the Oracle Client), but instead by hiding the actual DLLs inside the program image and loading from there.
Are they fucking kidding me?!
 
I don't know, but it's more native on CLR.
 
7:04 PM
@Drise I've had so many people call me mooning duck I have to wonder what I'm missing on the internet
 
^ Ha. That went slightly better than expected. I convinced them that actually deploying the OCI Instant Client (3 dlls...) was probably OK, since they're depending on it anyway and it is the Oracle supported solution for isolated Xcopy deployment.
 
Besides, on JVM there's also Haskell-like Frege.
 
@MooingDuck Ducks mooning people, apparently.
 
@FredOverflow It's an ML implementation. I don't think so.
 
@GamErix I understand typos, people make mistakes. I'm irked at the 300+ lines of code you want me to learn to answer your "easy" question. Also, my own code doesn't work right now, and you're getting backlash :( Sorry about that.
 
7:05 PM
Fixed a boatload of buffer overruns in the process
And... to top it all off I convinced them to turn their external app (complete with buggy command line parsing) into a CA:Gen external procedure.
Anyone else experiencing bad lag with SO chat messages?
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck No problem mate :x
 
user1182183
The D programming language is an object-oriented, imperative, multi-paradigm system programming language created by Walter Bright of Digital Mars. It originated as a re-engineering of C++, but even though it is mainly influenced by that language, it is not a variant of C++. D has redesigned some C++ features and has been influenced by concepts used in other programming languages, such as Java, Python, Ruby, C#, and Eiffel. D's design goals attempt to combine the performance of compiled languages with the safety and expressive power of modern dynamic languages. Idiomatic D code is common...
 
user1182183
Trollin C++ at it's best
 
@sehe always
 
> I personally still prefer the scientific approach: Prove astrology wrong based on facts, less on opinions.
Lol.
Science, bitches.
 
7:07 PM
@GamErix Aslo note: Use the up arrow for corrections to posts. Up to two minutes for editing, though, so be careful.
 
@Drise Why do you need a different symbol? For what purpose?
 
@MooingDuck Just today, for me. I get 'retry/cancel' every other message (and it's not thottling, but just 'something went wrong')
 
@FredOverflow # just looks bleh imho
 
@Drise On paper, or in a program?
 
@FredOverflow Program. "Number of points" != "# of points" != "# points"
@sehe I think the ape needs to stop banging on the keyboard. Soft touches my friend, soft touches.
 
7:09 PM
The ape?
 
I think I'm gonna get myself a das keyboard.
 
What is a das keyboard?
 
@sehe Ignore my ramblings. I get you and @sbi confused sometimes. I think the ape polar bear...
 
@FredOverflow A keyboard for hipsters and rich people.
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, it's a very good mechanical keyboard.
 
7:23 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes can you tell me if this is UB? ideone.com/92hBS
 
It is.
Can't advance end iterators. Period.
 
can't?
 
I am hereby closing The Internet as not constructive. DAMN YOU TV TROPES!
 
@bamboon Oops.
 
^ the robot saw that one before
 
7:24 PM
:P
 
@sehe Ha, what a noob.
 
Still no hat on the monkey
 
Well, with the economy in shambles...
 
@RMartinhoFernandes ok, but is auto it = std::end(vec); --it; also UB or only if I go above the end?
 
@bamboon Only if you go past the end.
Decrementing end iterators is fine (assuming it's bidirectional, obviously :P).
 
7:27 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes ok, perfect, thanks sir.
well yeah, that's for sure
 
Decrementing end iterators for empty ranges, on the other hand, is not such a good idea :)
 
oh, righty
 
Hooray for commentless downvotes on answers from nearly three years ago...
See, I'm trying out twitter for a change.
 
You're reading days old tweets man.
 
I'm into backlogs.
Also, you should be worried. I might be planning an audacious heist or unusual killing spree
 
7:32 PM
Also, if you follow me, I'll get a neat "following 2^6" and "2^5 followers" whistles
 
a tweet is a whole days old? it's got all the relevance of the Turin Shroud now
 
Not that I care about having followers, but PWOERS OF TOW!!!ELEVEN
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I already follow you
 
Dammit.
My plan is foiled.
 
Tin foiled
Old hat
 
7:34 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Pwoer. Sounds like "poire". Almost.
 
Pears of tow?
 
hi any one hear can help me in batch
hi any one here can help me in batch .bat file ?
 
Jun 29 at 10:37, by thecoshman
If you are new here, please read the newbie hints and keep the acronym list under your pillow. Thank you.
 
i can't find batch room
 
Chat is not for questions.
 
7:37 PM
That was rude of me, but I know we were all thinking it.
 
Chat is for chatting.
What's so hard about that concept.
 
@CatPlusPlus And the ape keeps asking why I keep stating the obvious.
 
You must've already seen a site dedicated to Q&A, because you have 20 fucking rep needed to chat.
 
@UXX1 What made you think that this room would be appropriate?
 
7:38 PM
@CatPlusPlus THE TRUTH! IT HURTS MY EYES!
 
can you plz tell me where i can find batch room ?
 
joe can you you send me the code fixed — UXX1 25 mins ago
 
Can anyone say "help vampire"?
 
@UXX1 I don't even think there's one.
@RMartinhoFernandes You just did.
 
7:39 PM
ERMEHGERD Go away please.
 
This is not a batch room, so you can leave now.
 
@CatPlusPlus What is a batch room?
 
Bye bye.
 
Oh wait, it gets better.
 
but where i can chat about batch
 
7:39 PM
i edited it with the new code see if you can fix it now — UXX1 35 mins ago
 
where ?
 
We're discussing sextuples here.
 
Tuples of sex.
 
Does batch have sextuples? No it doesn't.
 
Nobody here is an expert in batch programming as far as I know.
 
7:40 PM
@FredOverflow std::tuple<me, model, model> <- sex tuple
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We're all experts in botch programming.
 
Cat Plus Plus why you are making funny of me
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I don't think robots have sex.
 
Because it's funny.
 
@CatPlusPlus Indeed it is!
 
7:41 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes lol
 
@FredOverflow I don't think you want to think about it.
 
i can't find a room so i came here to see if any one can help me
 
Well, we can't.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes can you help me ?
@Cat Plus Plus talk about yourself
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If I could and wanted, I would.
 
7:42 PM
@UXX1 Hahahahahaha.
 
Yeah, chat really should start restricting accounts based on their age.
 
@echo off
echo hello world
echo this is all the batch programming I know
 
If anyone could and wanted, they would.
 
You're getting annoying.
 
Already is.
 
7:42 PM
But we can't and we don't want to
 
I draw the line at directed plinks.
 
because batch programming sucks
and meh
 
@CatPlusPlus I got ridiculously high tolerance for tosspots, so when I find someone annoying, it's a sure sign that shit just got real.
 
lol
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, me too. It's the only thing that actually makes me use the plonks.
 
7:43 PM
Someone seems to want me to talk about myself.
 
@UXX1 I can but I'm fairly irked and don't want to.
 
thnx all for no thing
 
You're welcome!
 
Very glad to be of assistance.
 
can any one make a batch room
 
7:44 PM
lol
 
@UXX1 "no thing" is usually abbreviated as "nothing".
@UXX1 Sure, but there won't be anybody in there. At least not initially.
 
You know what, sure. I'll make you a batch room.
 
Pro-tip: you don't make friends by wandering into a chat room full of C++ programmers and pleading for help with Windows batch files.
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@FredOverflow Dim myCaring As New CareLevel = Nothing
 
@CatPlusPlus Can you make a make room batch?
 
7:44 PM
yep
go learn Linux Bash instead
cause Batch is meh
 
How will that help him with his Windows batch problems?
 
There you go.
 
if there's no batch, there's no problem
 
I'll even make you an owner.
 
7:45 PM
what would happen if i add a - to c++? will it become c+ or c++-
 
how i can join that room
 
I think we should all join the room and continue trolling him.
 
hhh you are funny
 
@UXX1 OMG
 
lol i didn't ask for your help so shut up
 
7:46 PM
 
Ooh, sorry, you need 100 rep to be an owner. Oh well, ping a mod when you reach that.
 
@CatPlusPlus I deflored the room.
 
@UXX1 Oh, dear.
 
@UXX1 Click on it.
 
7:47 PM
@Nadal There is no such thing as a unary postfix - operator in C++.
 
I'm new to C++. Is it possible to return functions in C++?
 
And then click that little arrow next to Lounge<C++>.
 
@David Compelx answer. Yes. Answer for you: No.
 
@David std::function or a functor
 
@Drise To be fair, it didn't work before the edit.
 
7:48 PM
@David Yes, it is possible to get that effect.
 
Haskell -> currying
 
i know how to join a room and thnx for creating one :D yhank you
 
Yeah, have fun in it. Bye bye.
 
@TonyTheLion Every day I'm currying.
 
@FredOverflow Yeah, it dropped you into a page with a big "join this room" button.
 
7:48 PM
Can owners boot/ban people?
 
@CatPlusPlus another one bites the dust
 
@TonyTheLion You can return functions without currying.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It did? I honestly didn't notice, lol.
 
Currying is related, but not quite.
It's first-class functions you want.
 
7:49 PM
@TonyTheLion What does the -> mean here?
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah, who said we needed to flag to get people out?
 
@CatPlusPlus I"m no Haskell expert
 
Oh, right, it was litb.
 
Well, now you know. :P
@Drise Oh how I wish I could.
 
@FredOverflow just a short way of saying "has" or something
 
7:49 PM
@CatPlusPlus std::bind is essentially the poor man's currying.
 
@CatPlusPlus That's lame.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not really. It's partial application.
 
@EtiennedeMartel we don't, just troll them out :P
 
@TonyTheLion what is a functor?
 
@David Google has answers :) oh yea, you should read a C++ book
 
7:50 PM
Partial application is not currying, bitches.
 
@CatPlusPlus Isn't that what currying is about? Or maybe I'm confusing it for something else.
 
3 mins ago, by Drise
@David Compelx answer. Yes. Answer for you: No.
 
Currying is a transformation of a function that takes a tuple as an argument into a function that takes first argument from that tuple and returns a function that takes second, etc.
 
I said ^that for a reason.
 
@TonyTheLion Haskell can haz Currying?
 
7:51 PM
If you want to be strict, there is no partial application in Haskell.
All functions take one argument, so either you have complete application, or no application at all.
 
@David An object that looks like a function. Essentially, that means overloading operator() on a class or struct.
 
Partial application with currying is just "stop evaluating at some point before the final function".
Because functions are first-class, you can then throw that result around.
 
@CatPlusPlus Functions taking tuples aren't very common in Haskell, are they?
 
I've seen uncurry used few times.
 
7:53 PM
Fist and sand?
 
Also arrows.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I always pronounce those as "fist" and "sound" :)
 
I use uncurry often if I use fanout and friends.
 
Still better than car and cdr.
 
@CatPlusPlus lambdabot loves curry and uncurry.
 
7:54 PM
Arrows are magical.
 
@CatPlusPlus Why are they called that, anyways?
 
@CatPlusPlus cddadr
 
@Mana Contents of Address Register and Contents of Data Register.
 
@Mana Because first LISP called internal fields like that.
 
LISP machine terminology.
 
7:55 PM
Also today I tried to explain why Haskell is cool to someone, using spoken language, and failed miserably. :(
 
@RMartinhoFernandes ahh, I see.
 
I fail at speaking big time.
 
oh god
 
And especially at explaining stuff in my native language.
 
so you do everything by email?
 
7:55 PM
I'm so used to English terminology, I keep running out of words.
 
@CatPlusPlus What words did you use?
 
@CatPlusPlus You need to speak more!
 
@CatPlusPlus Do it the Québécois way: try using your native language as much as possible, and patch the missing parts with English.
Bonus points if you make the English word sound like a word from your language.
 
My spoken English is terribad.
 
I can't speak from experience, I never heard your voice wink wink.
 
7:57 PM
time for mumble!
 
@EtiennedeMartel Here we grab English words and add native declinations.
 
@GamErix Your code was confusing and uncommented, so I ignored it all and write you a simple/fast A* algorithm.
 
The F word is a common swearword here, and it's not as "heavy" for us as it is for English speakers.
@MooingDuck Oh you repwhore!
@TonyTheLion *Batman theme*
 
@EtiennedeMartel I fear it may be true for him as well.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Well, he was on Mumble while I was speaking.
Wait.
You mean he never heard his own voice?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes What.
@RMartinhoFernandes Have you seen the name of the file? those_european_bastards_did_it.png
 
Damn Europeans.
Being all... European and shit.
 
And damn proud about it.
 
Why won't markdown let my type a backslash as code?
Test one backslash: ``
 
8:04 PM
@FredOverflow blablabla Markdown blablabla.
 
Test two backslashes: `\`
 
Mwahahaha! Because you suck: \
 
Well, there's your problem.
 
Murkdown parsers are mostly a failure.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Did you cheat with a trailing space? \
 
8:04 PM
whistles
 
Oh hai can you help me with my laundry problems I couldn't find a better chat room lol?
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DongML is far from failure.
 
% is not an escape character in cmd, ^ is.
 
@CatPlusPlus How's that relevant for anything?
 
They made me check that silly other room.
 
8:10 PM
And why didn't you post there?
 
Because he's silly.
in Batch room, 8 mins ago, by UXX1
@Driseplz plz plz plz plz help me
^ How to kill any hope of ever getting help.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Those are lyrics by The Beatles, right?
 
in Batch room, 8 mins ago, by Drise
@UXX1 Multiple things. 1) I am saying no simply because it is shorter than yes. 2) You are obnoxious, therefore, also no. 3) I instructed you to not speak unless spoken to. You violated that instruction, therefore, also no.
 
I don't want any posts in that room. :.
 
@CatPlusPlus I've ceased and desisted.
 
8:14 PM
Woo, I finally managed to start Apache with PHP.
 
php <_<
Y PHP?
 
Cat's gone bananas.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Assuming he never was to begin with.
 
Because easiest way to salvage MediaWiki dump is to load it into live MediaWiki, get rid of trash and then export it.
Or just copy contents manually, really.
 
What are you salvaging?
 
8:19 PM
Goblin Camp wiki.
Turns out running 2-year-old MW installation with no active moderation ends up in botfest.
Who would've thought.
> In binary mode, MediaWiki stores UTF-8 text to the database in binary fields. This is more efficient than MySQL's UTF-8 mode, and allows you to use the full range of Unicode characters. In UTF-8 mode, MySQL will know what character set your data is in, and can present and convert it appropriately, but it won't let you store characters above the Basic Multilingual Plane.
Lol at PHP app surpassing RDBMS in UTF-8 support.
 
Wut.
MySQL doesn't support astral planes? WTF, why?
 
> Connected to mysql 5.5.13; You are using MySQL 4.1 server, but PHP is linked to old client libraries;
Your version arithmetic is wonderful, MediaWiki.
 
What.
Is it UB to initialize an std::string with a null pointer?
 
@CatPlusPlus Thought they were RBDMS?
 
8:28 PM
Really bad at database management system?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It does in the more recent versions. There's a couple which do not support non-BMP Unicode. They probably just converted to UCS-2 internally and stored that.
 
I love loading hundred-MB dumps into MySQL.
 
@CatPlusPlus Bah, should be fine.
 
It's slow as fuck.
And turns my machine into a vacuum cleaner.
 
Some fucks are fast.
 
8:32 PM
Oh dear. I'm about to call the cops on some kid who keeps riding his dirt bike wide open (and revving it wide open in neutral) right next to my office window.
 
@CatPlusPlus Sluuuurp.
@Drise Throw him a brick.
 
Okay, now there's a mystery. I've loaded the dump, but MW serves the previous freshly-installed site.
 
in Batch room, 14 mins ago, by UXX1
I Need Help Quickly please Help me
What does this even mean?
 
What.
I mean, there's no cache.
What the hell
 
@CatPlusPlus Bummer.
 
8:35 PM
@CatPlusPlus When you write "MW", I think about Modern Warfare.
 
Oh wait, there's stuff.
It's weird.
 
@CatPlusPlus This is likely why we don't use PHP.
 
This is MediaWiki. It's different kind of bad.
 
in Batch room, 19 mins ago, by UXX1
I Need Help Quickly please Help me
He simply doesn't give up.
 
@CatPlusPlus It's a sophisticated kind of bad.
 
8:40 PM
Even PHP people laugh at MediaWiki.
 
That's what you call self-deprecation.
 
@FredOverflow put him on ignore (and tell him you can no longer see anything he types)
 
...or I could just leave the batch room :)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes that's painful :(
 
8:47 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes "god particle" is just a figure of speech, right? How stupid can people be?
 
@FredOverflow How stupid can you imagine?
 
@FredOverflow not stupid. just ... free thinkers :)
 
@CatPlusPlus More than that.
 
@FredOverflow How can a particle be a god? I thought god was supposed to be everything and everywhere?
 
@Drise Only on Sundays.
It often takes the rest of week off.
 
8:48 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Oh, ok. That clarifies everything. Much thanks.
 
Do you know how tiring it is to be everywhere?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes You should become a preacher. You speak such wisdoms. I would follow you and give you gobs of money.
 
@FredOverflow Very.
Stop changing the past!
 
ERHMEHGERD It may rain and not be 100bajillion degrees outside and 98% humid.
41.1bajillion degrees Celsius for all you European viewers.
Fuck the english measurement system.
 
Some European viewers don't use Celsius.
> Fuck the english measurement system.
whistles
 
8:57 PM
Well, that was obvious. Me == Dumbass
 
@Drise it's not obvious unless you rename yourself
 

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