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12:00 AM
 
hmm
you think I can advertise myself as an expert in C++?
 
just had the eye of that [storm]. Looks unimpressive on radar, but it has been a while since we had such a short, violent storm
 
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@DeadMG www.reddit.com
@RMartinhoFernandes meh, that game
 
@TonyTheLion Nope, doesn't exist.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes lol
that reminds me, I haven't seen a TVTropes link here in a long time
 
12:04 AM
@TonyTheLion That was a bad idea.
 
> Stop Press: Due to the popularity of this site, I've now written it up as a book, entitled 'Molecules with Silly or Unusual Names', by Paul May, published by Imperial College Press, July 2008. It is available at all good bookstores, price around £18. It will include all your favourite molecules from this website, plus some extra information about them. Or you can buy it online from World Scientific or Amazon
@TonyTheLion I like Fukalite
 
@sehe I like erotic acid.
 
fuckitol, lol
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Either both all parties cum together, or you rollback the transaction?
 
I'm not sure how to interpret that. I'm going to refrain from doing so.
 
12:08 AM
lol
 
12:18 AM
Well, night all
 
I should do this "sleep" thing
@sehe jinx
 
1:07 AM
And I just woke up from my nap. lol
 
1:19 AM
Hi.
 
hi
 
hi
 
@DeadMG when u get back, try "sleepwalking". i never done that, or heard about anyone doing it. so it's probably difficult, a challenge!
> hi
markdown - alf: 1 - 0
 
lol
 
1:28 AM
sigh as soon as i get on Allied to order my raspberry pi, there were none in stock. FML.
 
yeah haha
 
I got on RS Components.
 
and newark has to put a page to ask you to try again later because there are so many requests for it haha
 
Ordered two weeks ago.
 
1:29 AM
O.O
 
Still have to wait seven more for delivery.
I've been on the waiting list since April.
 
the estimated shipping for me is 3 months (N.A)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Wasn't as bad as this one component that I wanted on an electronics distributor site that had a 50 week lead time. O_O
 
O.O
what board do you have, a/b?
 
I ended up substituting something else for that part of the circuit.
 
1:31 AM
@Insilico A whole freaking year? Ouch.
@ITNinja B.
 
I think it was a Maxim IC component. Or maybe it was an Amtel component.
They tend to be not very good with the supply end of things.
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah I ended up redesigning that part of the circuit to not rely on that part.
 
once i get it, im putting ipython on it and am distributing processes onto 3 other machines (cluster). Im so excited :P
 
I'm not waiting a year to finish my prototypes.
 
1:44 AM
hey i have a quick question, when packing data to be sent to a server should it be: serialize data->compress->serialize or compress->serialize?
 
Why serialize twice?
What does it mean to serialize after compression?
 
@ITNinja Compressing a stream of bytes gives you another stream of bytes. You don't need to serialize the compressed stream of bytes.
 
alright cool ty much.
 
So really you probably want serialize data->compress
 
kk :)
 
1:53 AM
What's the best way to construct an array using placement new?
 
Why do you need placement new?
 
@IDWMaster with std::vector.
 
When I use new(alc->Allocate(sizeof(X)*elems)))X[elems]
 
@IDWMaster don't
 
Placement array new is borken.
 
1:54 AM
@Mysticial Placement new is necessary for performance reasons. Malloc is too slow to be calling all the time, so I wrote a memory allocator which pre-allocates the memory.
 
I'm fully aware of that since I've written my own allocator before. But outside of making your own template library, I've never seen a need to use placement new.
 
wow. compression in python is so simple xD
 
Or are you actually making some sort of generic library thing.
 
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Q: Array placement-new requires unspecified overhead in the buffer?

Mooing Duck5.3.4 [expr.new] of the C++11 Feb draft gives the example: new(2,f) T[5] results in a call of operator new[](sizeof(T)*5+y,2,f). Here, x and y are non-negative unspecified values representing array allocation overhead; the result of the new-expression will be offset by this amount from ...

 
@Mysticial I am kind of writing my own template library.
 
1:56 AM
It's just borken.
 
[in]:zlib.compress("lol")
[out]: 'x\x9c\xcb\xc9\xcf\x01\x00\x02\x91\x01H'
xD
 
BORKEN.
IT NO WORKIES.
Sorry, I got a bit carried away there.
@Mysticial Implementing a harder, better, faster, stronger boost::optional!
 
lol
 
2:11 AM
0
Q: What is the resolution of windows high performance counter?

Matt HThis might seem like a really basic question but, When dividing the output of QueryPerformanceCounter with QueryPerformanceFrequency, what is the resulting value in, i.e. seconds, milliseconds, microseconds? I'm asking because I'm porting some code from Windows to Linux and I don't have a windo...

Why are programmers literally incapable of looking up even the most basic information from documentation?
I'm sure the OP isn't stupid but this is something you can look up in less than 2 minutes.
 
Just shuddup and take the free rep. :P
I +1'ed btw
 
@Mysticial Shhhh. :-P
 
Speaking of which... today is probably a good time for me to resume answering questions...
Now that the wave from the branch predictor question has finally ended.
 
@Mysticial I've gotten upvotes from questions I've answered last year. Perhaps you'll still get more upvotes from that question without doing anything. :-P
 
@Insilico That was the case today/yesterday. I got 38 upvotes on the branch-predictor question even though it had already fallen almost completely off the multicollider.
I'm hoping it will stay high like this until it falls off the month-tab. But I'm not counting on it.
I've gotten 9 repcaps out of it - much more than I could have possibly imagined.
 
2:17 AM
@Insilico It's sad.
 
@Mysticial lol, and here i am still trying for 1k xD
 
Though TBH, once you pass 20k, rep is just a number... With a poor correlation to expertise.
Take Eric Lippert for example. He posts good shit, yet he only has 174k. A lot of the 200k users arguably can't compare to Eric Lippert.
 
Eric's answers are very good.
 
@ITNinja Rep is really more of a measure of how much time you waste spend on Stack Overflow, really.
 
@Insilico exactly
 
2:27 AM
@Insilico Which is not a bad thing mind you: rep acts as a good measure of how much you contribute. It just breaks down when people see it as something else entirely.
 
True...
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Hence, "waste spend time" :-P
 
Looking at someone's top answers (weighted by the tag) is probably a better measure of expertise. I say weighted by tag, because some tags like Android gets you very few upvotes.
 
The Android tags are notoriously poor.
 
I've got a friend here who does Android... and yeah, it sucks to be him. No upvotes, ever... And all you ever get is Unsung Hero.
 
2:30 AM
well, im off for the night, ill talk to yall later :)
 
They get tons of crap questions, and your effort is rarely rewarded.
 
night
 
@Mysticial Really? Aren't there a lot of [android] SO users? Surely there's a bunch of experts.
 
@Insilico But nobody ever votes.
Just run down the top Android users list and you'll see that virtually every single one of them has Unsung Hero.
 
There was some post on meta a while ago about that.
 
2:31 AM
C# and Java pay out the most votes. But Git and C/C++ have the most massively upvoted posts.
 
@Mysticial That's odd. I would've thought the pedantic [c++] people would be the ones with a "lack-of-upvoting" problem, TBH.
 
Java and C/C++ questions tend to hit the widest audience outside of SO, so they benefit the most from linking.
 
@Insilico As a previously active user on I find it much easier to get upvotes on .
I don't need to post as many answers to rep cap.
 
Holy shit, there are a lot more 200+ posts in than ... geez...
http://stackoverflow.com/tags/git/hot?filter=all
http://stackoverflow.com/tags/c%2b%2b/hot?filter=all
 
Oh, your answer overcame Eric's book in a hotel analogy.
Gratz.
 
2:37 AM
yeah
It should be able to hold Jon Skeet for at least a few months...
He gets about 8 votes on his every day. More than any other post on SO.
 
@Mysticial Which one?
 
I also find it funny how you have many of the top-voted C++ answers, even though you don't know much C++.
 
They're all in performance.
The only tag I truly own is . C++ just happens to be the working language.
 
Yeah, I know.
 
2:43 AM
Oh geez... I have more votes in than in now... that's sad...
I need to find more C performance questions to fix that.
 
is 3rd on my list now. But that's fine. It quite literally will be at least a small part of my master thesis.
 
2:59 AM
It's amazing how early it gets late these days.
 
hello everyone..
i need a c++/cli socket solution
 
@ShivShambo Try the PHP room.
 
 
2 hours later…
5:16 AM
Morning
 
evening
 
I'm sure morning will come eventually, but it's late evening here...
 
=)
Today it's friday!
 
@ManofOneWay 42 more minutes of Thursday here...
 
@JerryCoffin Do you have vacation now?
 
5:21 AM
So what's up this fine (mor|eve)ning? Seems an odd time for chat to be so dead. Does somebody consider it a holiday?
@ManofOneWay I'm a consultant and a husband/father. in other words, I haven't really had vacation in years. :-)
 
Introducing cling, a C++ Interpreter Based on clang/LLVM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Xfh8pv3Fs #GoogleTechTalks
 
@JerryCoffin Well, do you have any plans for the summer? =)
 
@ManofOneWay Not really. Given the weather, just trying to keep cool is about all I can handle.
 
Same. I can't even go outside for 10 min. without getting completely soaked in sweat.
 
What temperatures are we talking about here?
 
5:34 AM
Day: 95 - 100F
Night: 80 - 90F
 
@ManofOneWay Roughly 100F (~40C).
 
That's quite a lot yes. Here it's 30C at most, daytime. But it's usually around 20C. And at night it's around 15C.
 
@ManofOneWay 30C I can handle. I think it might have gotten down to 20C one night, but only one night, in weeks now.
 
Isn't it strange you guys still use Fahrenheit? 0°F was the coldest temperature you could achieve artificially, like several hundred years ago.
 
@ManofOneWay Somewhat strange, but not really a lot stranger than many other things. If I was going to fix things, I think number of days in a month is much more painful to deal with than temperatures, but nobody seems interested in trying to do that.
 
5:43 AM
Agree.
 
And the names of the months... I mean like seriously? We have a separate goddamn name for each of the 12 months. Do you have any idea how much harder it makes English to learn...
In Chinese, it's all numbered...
 
The british measurements are also strange.
 
Same with the days of the weeks.
*Not saying Chinese is any easier to learn than English. (because it isn't - goddamn tones...)
 
I've heard that if you pronounce a Chinese word slightly wrong, it very often results in a profanity.
 
@ManofOneWay Correct.
I know of one particularly bad example in Cantonese. (which is what I speak)
More than one actually...
To "switch" and to "fuck" have the same pronunciation, but slightly different tones - in Cantonese.
The number "7" and "to fuck up", also have the same pronunciation, but different tones.
 
5:51 AM
@Mysticial I sometimes wonder what our languages tell us about human nature. Somehow, it would appear to be that the more of a mess something is, the better we like it.
 
The word for "yes" and an extremely derogatory word for "vagina" also have the same pronunciation, but different tones.
 
@Mysticial Somehow seems like being a teenager, with your voice changing and tones slightly out of control would be particularly problematic...
"But dad, I swear I was just trying to say no!"
"What did you just call your mother? You're just getting yourself in even bigger trouble young man!"
 
@JerryCoffin I can't really comment. Since I grew up in the states and never lived in a Cantonese speaking place. But I was actually never aware of tones until at least 15 years old or so.
I've never actually heard myself, or anyone in my family mess up tones.
Part of it is probably because tone distinction is greatly helped by context.
And of course "yes" and "vagina" show up in very different contexts.
Except when she says "yes". lol
I never really understood it myself either since it's technically my native language even though my English is much stronger.
The only people I've ever heard messing up tones are non-native speakers.
 
@Mysticial Well, you did grow up in the states. So it shouldn't be surprising that your English is stronger.
 
@Insilico Yep... except that I didn't know a word of English until I entered school...
I have no memories of that moment... must have been too traumatizing.
 
6:05 AM
0
Q: Increased memory usage for a process

cppcoderI have a C++ process running in Solaris which creates 3 threads to do some tasks. These threads execute in loops and it runs as long as the process is running. But, I see that the memory usage of the process grows continuously and the process core dumps once the memory usage exceeds 4GB. Can so...

How do you begin to answer this? There's >23,482,348,670,912,340,917,356,982,783,475 different reasons why your process might be using up all the machine's memory.
 
lol
 
@Insilico Right now it seems to fit pretty well with "not a real question" -- vague and ambiguous to the point that it needs to be edited before anybody can hope to provide a real answer.
 
We could try that 5 different close votes thing - in a different order. :P
 
@Mysticial We're going to have to find a duplicate first. :-P (which there probably is)
 
Another thing we really need to try is 5 different dupe targets.
 
6:14 AM
@Mysticial Just wait for another question about C++ UB. I'm sure there's way more than 5 questions about it.
 
What is: i = i++ + ++i
Haven't seen those in a while... I'm actually starting to miss them...
 
@Mysticial Perhaps we'll see more when more people start using C++11 (or compiler vendors get done implementing C++11)
 
Or when school starts again in the fall...
 
@Mysticial Yes, let's not forget about the Eternal September problem.
 
omg... I remember September. That was my first month... repwhoring on steroids...
3
 
6:17 AM
@Mysticial Years ago on Usenet I set a goal for myself to answer as many of these as possible, using entirely different explanations each time. If I recall correctly, I managed to come up with something like 30 unique answers for "because you've modified a variable more than once between sequence points."
 
@Mysticial The code is actually decently formatted.
 
Lord, looking again, somebody's actually upvoted this question. What are the chances that it was a sock-puppet account? Can somebody possible consider this question useful as it stands?
 
I'll pass on that... gonna gamble to see if the branch-predictor question can cap me for one more day to make it 10.
 
@Mysticial How much more do you need to cap it?
 
6:20 AM
@Insilico Just 20 votes.
I've gotten 4 so far today.
Just check my rep history. And you'll see that it capped me for 9 straight days.
 
What's with people writing "JAVA" instead of "Java"?
 
@Insilico where?
 
0
Q: OUT OF MEMORY in hibernate

AnantHi I have created many to one relationship in hibernate. Following is the code for that. there are thousands of records present in B table which is link to single record of table A. When i used getBList() method it will returns thousands of record and JAVA goes OUT OF MEMORY. So how can i solve...

Maybe "JAVA" is an acronym. "JAVA Language" == "Just Another Very Asinine Language"
 
lol, no wonder I didn't see. Wasn't tagged.
 
Like it literally takes less effort to type "Java" instead of "JAVA". What the hell.
 
6:25 AM
It depends on the state of the caps lock button.
 
@Mysticial If they have their caps lock button on more than say 10% of the time then they have other issues. :-P
 
@Insilico About the same as people who insist on "ADA" instead of "Ada" (though at least Ada Lovelace deserves some care).
Question is, why doesn't it show up on:
Even though it has ~half again more votes than the highest voted there?
 
@JerryCoffin What are your ignored tags?
 
Oh, is it because it's an answer instead of a question?
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah. The page is called "Highest Voted Questions" for a reason. :-P
 
6:28 AM
This one:
1324
Q: Why is processing a sorted array faster than an unsorted array?

GManNickGHere is a piece of code that shows some very peculiar performance. For some strange reason, sorting the data miraculously speeds up the code by almost 6x: #include <algorithm> #include <ctime> #include <iostream> int main() { // generate data const unsigned arraySize =...

It should be right up there. About to pass the regex question.
 
@Mysticial Yup -- was looking for a score of 2330, and obviously need some caffeine to reduce the ease with which I get confoozled.
Speaking of confusion and such, I guess I need to get off of here for a while and try to get a report finished. Later, all.
 
Funny thing is that the denormal float question was at the bottom of the top 50 list. The branch question bumped it off. lol
 
@JerryCoffin Good luck!
 
@JerryCoffin night
 
Thanks. G'night.
 
7:09 AM
@Mysticial What's up?
 
work
yes, at 2 in the morning...
I live on my own schedule...
 
haha
Work as in school work or as in a real job?
 
school work
 
So you're taking courses during the summer?
 
Why are you so nosy?
 
7:16 AM
No particular reason. I'm also in school so it's just fun to know what courses other people are taking.
This is a chat in which the goal is to communicate, and what would communication be without questions?
 
You seem to be hammering only me with questions.
 
Are you serious?
 
goes back to lurking I actually need to get work done.
 
7:47 AM
Indication of going into lurking mode is not an inclusive statement.
 
8:11 AM
Not good apparently.. :D
 
@Insilico I think people who write JAVA are indicating a similiarity with COBOL
 
8:31 AM
@FredOverflow Morning!
 
Is there any Flagging of users?
I have one of those "please everybody do my work stuff for free" going amok on thumbing down all my posts ever. it's quite amusing but it kindof ruins the SO-idea ;)
oh this is c++
i thought it was general lounge :D
 
Ell
hi guys
 
8:53 AM
@stefan Hence the context <C++>
 
Ell
I just watched all 3 lord of the rings films in a row
 
What was that like?
Have fun watching hobbits walk about?
 
yay! i posted a new question! still not dead!
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Q: y not compile? blah blah blah to satisfy SO questiom length rules

Cheers and hth. - AlfWith const, as indicated by the comment, msvc 11 and g++ 4.7.0 refuse to compile this: #include <memory> // std::unique_ptr #include <utility> // std::move using namespace std; struct CommandLineArgs { typedef unique_ptr< wchar_t const* const [], vo...

 
@CheersandhthAlf I feel I should downvote it, just because of "y" and "blah blah blah to satisfy SO questiom length rules"
 
@Abyx have you married SO?
 
8:57 AM
also "why not compile" is not clear name
@CheersandhthAlf wut?
 
you sound like a freaking idiot
 
Ell
@Neil I have been awake for about 34 hours :L god I could not do that again
I had to take breaks between. I couldn't bare it :L
 
@CheersandhthAlf oh really? you question looks like a question by a silly noob
 
Ell
They are really good films though
 
yes, you're an idiot
ok
 
8:58 AM
you should add "plz help!!111" there
@CheersandhthAlf, now it's better, thanks.
 
@Ell Welcome to adulthood
 
ah.. it wasn't your edit
 

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