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2:00 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Yes, let's just leverage the false dialectic and make it sound like a valid point
 
> The moral is: don't be annoying, and we'll get along. If you are being told you're annoying, stop, and we'll get along. If you start insulting regulars, you're a lost cause to us.
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Woop-di-fucking doo.
 
@Xeo keep trying
 
You failed rule #1 right there.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ... and you don't see the relation.... how? You quite literally just made my point for me
 
Xeo
@Abyx lookin good on my screen :P
 
2:01 PM
LMAO
 
@AgainstASicilian I don't give a shit, honestly.
 
Xeo
pointing towards "leave (all)" and the [x] in the upper right corner
 
and he keeps going
 
@Xeo Hmm. But leave (all) is below the room description?
 
Wait, wasn't that the first time you were annoying?
I recall you burst into flames sometime in the past.
 
Xeo
2:02 PM
@SamDeHaan Yeah, that gets in the way
 
No, before I got into an argument against another "authority" figure before, jalf
 
Xeo
Ooooh, lets see
 
who, btw, turned out to be DEAD wrong in his argument
once i got my thing working
 
Xeo
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2:02 PM
@AgainstASicilian ¬_¬ I think I remember you... A few days a go I did an eye wateringly monstrous turd... I think it becamesentient
 
Xeo
damn
 
@Xeo You broke it.
 
@CatPlusPlus i like that one!
 
Xeo
gets scrambled in the tags
 
@thecoshman Sentience has its drawbacks
 
2:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus Brown list. trollololol.
 
Xeo
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damn it
no unicode in tags it seems
[tag:⇊]
 
Oh, yeah, I figured you were quite the douchebucket.
 
@AgainstASicilian indeed it does
 
Xeo
wat.
 
Ell
@Xeo is that APL or something?
 
2:03 PM
you guys are all wayy, wayyy too easy
I thought you were all supposed to be smart :P
 
@CatPlusPlus It should read "beautiful tears" instead of "beautiful rage".
 
Xeo
@Ell I'm just looking for arrows to point to the exits :P
 
@AgainstASicilian and i thought you were supposed to read the code of conduct noob.
 
Ell
@Xeo oh haha
 
Xeo
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2:04 PM
@AgainstASicilian Yeah, right. "Oh, shit, I'm fucked at this rate, better claim I was trolling the whole time!"
 
I thought about it, but he's trying to troll us back and being terrible at it.
 
Xeo
that works... kinda
 
So rage fits better, I think. But hey, nothing's final.
 
2:04 PM
@CatPlusPlus im sitting here lmfao. this is funny xD
 
Found it.
 
any way, back to the plonk list for you
 
> insert some funny invented lore here
I would, but I can't write on there.
Mark my words: one day I shall be a room owner.
 
I didn't title it "Ministry of Shame" for nothing.
 
Xeo
What was the alt-code for LTR override again?
 
2:06 PM
Do the writeup, I'll edit it.
 
just saying, if you don't actually know what you're talking about, don't pretend or you'll get called out for it ;) that simple.
 
Also, if anyone feels like collecting past trolls and idiots, go ahead.
 
Is he gone?
 
I'm also doing topic archive, but it's slow as hell and I have to figure out how to automate it.
 
Xeo
2:07 PM
@CatPlusPlus Would that include Tina? :P
 
Woo, I got flagged.
I'm famous now.
 
We'll invalidate any flag against you.
 
@Xeo We need to preserve history!
 
Xeo
well, not any
 
Alright, any flag about this cretin.
 
2:09 PM
"this cretin" probably makes twenty times your salary ;)
 
Xeo
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but feel free
 
Xeo
I'll leave it at that
 
My salary is zero, btw.
 
Oh no, he makes more money.
How will I live with myself.
 
2:10 PM
@AgainstASicilian Oh, sure, like that makes you a better person.
 
That's it, guys. Game over.
 
@EtiennedeMartel He can buy better person perks.
 
I'm pretty sure you make the exact same noises as any of us when you go to the toilet.
 
I'm pretty sure it means I know what I'm talking about
 
@EtiennedeMartel He bought a soundproof toilet.
 
user784668
2:10 PM
Money is all you need. Because if you got money, then you got cash. If you got cash, you got dinero. If you got dinero, you got money.
 
Xeo
@AgainstASicilian Or not. There are idiot managers out there, after all.
 
No, it really doesn't mean anything.
 
If @RMartinhoFernandes wasn't trying to smokescreen his "advice" all the time he'd be employed :P
 
I'm employed.
 
@CatPlusPlus You're not too familiar with statistics I take it
@RMartinhoFernandes nice try
 
2:11 PM
Oh no, I'm not too familiar with statistics.
 
Ell
@AgainstASicilian salary does not denote how skilled a person is
 
Oh wait, I did that bit already.
My celery is better.
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@Ell yeah, we can tell.
looks at AgainstASicil xD
 
It's funny that so rich and skilled a programmer asks for a tutorial on I/O.
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@Ell Let's take your heuristic versus mine, go out into the field, and see who comes back with the better distribution. hhhmmmmmmmmmm.
 
2:12 PM
The impression you leave here is that you're an idiot. And dumb.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes because clearly I said I was a programmer right?
 
And trying to start stupid pissing contests. Which is... childish.
 
user784668
@RMartinhoFernandes You say it like it were bad to be a dumb idiot.
 
So, you are a dumb manager, then?
 
Ell
2:13 PM
@AgainstASicilian if you came here regularly you would know I'm a qualified statistician, and you would know that I most likely earn twice your wage
 
Just tell us already. We're dying of anticipation.
 
user784668
Okay, dumb question number 65481424854:
 
user784668
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Q: When to use C instead of C++?

Abdelghani Madridista GadiriIn what situations is C considered the best choice? even better than C++ ? Please give reasons.

 
Xeo
2:14 PM
@Fanael dupe question number ....
 
@Fanael Close-voted as not constructive.
 
i wish we could vote to close users....that would be nice.
 
user784668
@ITNinja You can. Join the metapolice first.
 
@Fanael O.O
 
@ITNinja actually closing and downvoting questions contributes to the question ban algorithm so you already did
 
2:15 PM
Or, alternatively, join Ministry of Shame and mock them to your heart content.
 
@CatPlusPlus Or you could try getting a girlfriend?
Or boyfriend, whichever you prefer
 
user784668
@AgainstASicilian A catfriend? What for?
 
How original.
 
erhm, anyone who can help me revive and reopen this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/11506094/…
 
just because it ain't original doesn't make it any less obvious or true
 
2:17 PM
it's a good question (even if it could have been written better)
 
It must take a lot of effort to come up with rehashed burns like that.
 
@AgainstASicilian if your going to keep trolling, at least troll well enough to keep my attention. yawn
 
Just stop it already. I'm flagging the next stupid "I rock; you suck" crap.
 
@refp Isn't it a dupe of some other question though?
 
Ell
@AgainstASicilian what was the original question you came in here asking?
 
2:18 PM
@ITNinja i'm not trolling
 
Oh come on, it's funny.
 
meh.. just plonk
 
I could've sworn someone asked it already
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Q: Is it possible to have an in-browser debugger?

ThomasIs it presently possible to programatically debug Javascript from within a browser window? I wish to be able to breakpoint/inspect Javascript from an in-browser window panel. EDIT: I should have been more specific: I'm loogking for an api to be used from within the page context, i.e. JS code in...

 
@Ell Yeah, look at @DeadMG.
 
@Ell I asked a simple question about Brainfuck, got a really unlettered, unhelpful response
 
Ell
2:18 PM
@AgainstASicilian ask me the question
 
@Insilico that's not why it was closed, "not constructive" is the reason.. also the question you linked doesn't make the question qualify as a dupe
 
I asked about multiplying an arbitrary-length number by 2
 
Because you're too lazy to even read the name of the room.
 
@AgainstASicilian With operator*?
Oh, right, Brainfuck! Well, I'm afraid this is a C++ room.
 
It's an interesting question, really
 
Ell
2:19 PM
@AgainstASicilian you want to know how to multiple an arbitrary-length integer(or float?) by 2?
 
No, it's not.
 
@Insilico the answers could have belonged to the other question, but the question isn't the same..
 
It's about as interesting as your face.
 
@refp How so? They both ask about a tool to debug Javascript in the browser.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Precisely
@Ell Brainfuck deals with integral values
one character per memory location
thus input is spread out across an array
 
user784668
2:20 PM
@AgainstASicilian Add it to itself. Problem solved.
 
and you operate on that level explicitly
 
@refp The questions don't have to be the same. You can have two questions that ask for the same thing using zero words in common.
 
@Fanael tried that approach actually, did not get it working
 
How sad.
 
@Insilico not in the same way, I find the difference quite clear.. "Is there a tool that allows me to see the javascript activity taking place in a browser?", "Is it presently possible to programatically debug Javascript from within a browser window?"
 
user784668
2:21 PM
@AgainstASicilian Get it working, then. Problem solved.
 
Okay, you know what, I changed my mind. It's getting boring and his trolling is not getting any better.
 
@Fanael exactly
 
@Insilico "It's not allowed by the standard", damn boy.. we could get rid of a few thousand c++ questions just because the answer to the question is the same ;-)
 
@CatPlusPlus Feel free to use that ignore button, sonny!
 
@CatPlusPlus ikr yawn
 
2:22 PM
@refp I would love to be able to get rid of a lot of stupid C++ questions. :-P
 
Ell
@AgainstASicilian I will try to help you, but seriously that attitude isn't helping you or anyone
 
@Insilico seriously though, people misinterpreted the question linked by you.. at least from where I'm standing, espacially with this added edit from OP: "I should have been more specific: I'm loogking for an api to be used from within the page context, i.e. JS code in browser can add it's own breakpoints."
 
@AgainstASicilian why? if we all did that, you would start raging that we were ingoring you because we cant see your chat.
 
I've already created Batch room for one idiot, do you want me to create a Brainfuck room for you?
 
@ITNinja I wouldn't care about that, so no, I wouldn't
 
2:23 PM
@refp So it's the OP's fault for not being able to formulate a question clearly. :-P
 
I could have sworn on the fact that I saw @DeadMG here just a few minutes ago.. fuckz
@Insilico no, it's the communities fault for answering a question with irrelevant posts.. not changing the question topic or whatever
and when people search for questions before making their own they get punished because they used a better wording
 
@refp So you expect the community to be able to read the OP's mind?
 
seems fair..
@Insilico apparently the community assumed it could, by answering something other than what is clearly asked for
 
@Ell I only responded that way because someone's version of "help" was just pasting unrelated code and not explaining it, and getting defensive when questioned/asked about it
 
@refp I don't think that's necessarily the community's fault. It could be preemptively preventing the XY problem, which is still a huge problem on things like forums and Q&A sites.
 
Ell
2:25 PM
@AgainstASicilian well, some people are just like that. It is almost always easier to ignore them than to retaliate, or else this happens. If you ignore it, or even better - try to see it from their point of view and try to fix whats wrong - you will be much more welcome here
 
@Insilico this conversation is about as pointless as the time wasted writing this answer stackoverflow.com/a/11502719/1090079, see the massive edits because of my brainfarts - also; reading the transcript from in here at the same time makes it "funny"
@Insilico I'm not sure what the "XY problem", care to give me an explanation?
please dont write an explanation, I will just google it.. starting now
 
@Ell Certainly true
 
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Q: What is the XY problem?

GnomeWhat is the XY problem? When asking questions, how do I recognize when I'm falling into it? How do I avoid it? Return to FAQ index

 
@Insilico done.
@Insilico including reading that post
 
2:26 PM
@AgainstASicilian The man tried to help you and now you treat him like he's the problem? Why aren't you a douchebag!
 
@JimNorton It wasn't real help
 
@refp The fact that this is Lounge<C++> already makes conversations here pointless. :-P
 
@Insilico that post is the contents of the answer, ofc
 
Ell
@AgainstASicilian I think it would be wise to take this opportunity to realize your mistake, apologize to everyone, re-read the code of conduct, and we can put this behind us. then try asking the question again :)
 
user784668
@AgainstASicilian Surreal help, only in Lounge<C++>!
 
2:27 PM
@Insilico no, seriously.. read the post I linked, that's pointless. I could have just wrote "Make your object have a default ctor or deal with it!"
 
@AgainstASicilian I read the transcript... You got more help than you deserved in the end. Why don't you just be grateful for the help you received?
 
@refp True, but it wouldn't be all that useful.
 
@JimNorton That's like a hungry child asking for some food and then giving him topsoil from your shoe -- "be grateful!"
Responding with unrelated code is not the same as helping
And it's not better than "no help at all"
 
@AgainstASicilian we never even needed to attempt to answer your question in the first place. Be happy you got even one reply.
 
@Insilico you find the post I wrote useful? I consider it to be a mishappen, no one will ever read it - that's the problem
 
2:29 PM
this room is not for questions.
 
Hmm. Maybe we should rename the Brown List to the JohnSmith list
 
@ItNinja I refer you to, quite literally, the posts I just made above you
 
user784668
Anyone with some experience with threads in Python?
 
my plonk list is damn sticky, you ain't getting off in a hurry
 
It's called biting the hand that feeds you.
 
2:29 PM
@AgainstASicilian and i refer you to read loungecpp.wikidot.com/owners:asking-questions
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Depends on what you're feeding
 
@refp The number of people that might read your answer != how useful it is
 
Have you ever spent any time in an actual teaching position btw? Curious
 
@AgainstASicilian Why do you feel entitled to any help at all?
 
@Insilico if the number of people reading an answer is 0, than it's equivalent to how useful it is
 
2:30 PM
because if so, what I am saying to you should be obvious
 
@refp Yes, but surely it must be at least one, assuming the OP gives a shit.
 
@AgainstASicilian Have you ever spent any time in actually learning something btw? Curious
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@Insilico OP never gives a shit
 
@JimNorton I don't, and never implied that. I'm just saying if you're going to help someone, actually try saying something helpful instead of just antagonizing that person and then getting defensive
 
@Insilico that's one thing I learnt today
 
Ell
2:31 PM
@AgainstASicilian hey c'mon I would give you a proper response you if you just apologize and re-read the code of conduct - it will benefit everyone
 
@refp Eh. Depends on the OP I guess.
 
@AgainstASicilian You seem to be pretty madbro. Might I recommend chilling out, bro?
 
@Ell I read it
 
@refp: At least you got some upvotes.
 
@Insilico stackoverflow.com/q/11496538/1090079 read the top two answers, one is filled with wrongness - the other one is correct (of course it's correct, I wrote it). which one do you think the OP accepts?
 
2:32 PM
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A: Multiply a number by 2 in Brainfuck?

R. Martinho FernandesThis is the algorithm you need to implement: Start with 0; Multiply the current count by ten: this can be achieved by dupping 10 times, and then adding all dupes together; Read a digit; If it's null proceed to 7; Convert it to an actual number: this can be achieved by subtracting 48; Add it to ...

And that's all the help you're getting. Zillion times more than you deserve.
 
@Insilico on my way to those golden badges.. rep-capped pretty much all the time I hang out on so
 
@refp At what point did I say number of upvotes == post accuracy?
 
Now could you please stop whining?
 
Ell
@AgainstASicilian that apologize to everyone, stop causing hassle, and re-ask your question
 
Apologies to everyone (although I'm still right)
 
Ell
2:33 PM
@AgainstASicilian Say it like you mean it. ;)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Again, that is not helpful advice. "Multiply by 10" is not very useful when the goal is to multiply by 2 to begin with
 
I don't care.
 
@Insilico we are talking about OP's giving a shit, if OP's gave a shit they shouldn't accept answers based on neither up-votes or rep count from users, they should read the actual posts
 
Feel free to downvote.
 
user784668
@RMartinhoFernandes Zillion and and two oranges. Don't forget the oranges.
 
2:34 PM
I'm confident of what I wrote.
 
Ell
Meh. I give up, plonk
 
If you didn't understand, you could have asked about it, instead of acting smug and dismissing it as unhelpful.
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That makes you a jerk.
 
@refp Right, but you claim that OP's don't ever give a shit, which is an overgeneralization. There are OP's that give a shit.
 
@Insilico this is the internet, what would it be without overgeneralization?
 
Also, "I know how to multiply small numbers together" + " If I can't multiply arbitrary digits by 2, 10 is no different"
 
2:35 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I did ask about it. And you handwaved every question away with "Well that's just basic" without explaining why or addressing my otherwise valid point
 
@refp The internet? :-P
 
for fuck sake, would you guys just plonk him and move on, all I am seeing is you shouting at a brick wall. no... that's mean to brick walls, they are smarter then that
 
You can't multiply a number by 10 without overflow within one byte
 
It's really confusing reading through two different threads of conversation here.
 
@AgainstASicilian I'm missing a part of this conversation it seems. I can't find that. So, I apologize if my Internets are making me look unhelpful.
 
2:36 PM
don';t you think if i could multiply by 10 I could handle 2?
 
@Insilico sorry, the tubez connecting your soul to my body which lacks exactly that, oranges.
 
@Insilico It's more fun when there's six or seven threads.
 
@refp Ew, there's tubes connecting my soul to your body?
Begone, said tubes! :-P
 
And the answer describes how to multiply by ten.
 
no, it does not
 
2:37 PM
time to put on my skates and go visit my little bro
 
Of course it doesn't.
 
user784668
>>> pickle.dumps(5)
b'\x80\x03K\x05.'
 
user784668
Whoa, what?
 
@refp Be safe!
 
It's my browser that is fooling me.
 
2:38 PM
omg data insertion sucks
 
It shows things that aren't there.
 
for those who didn't know, I'm one of the characters from the movie Hackers
 
user784668
@RMartinhoFernandes This message doesn't exist, it's been inserted by your browser.
 
anybody know of a way to automate data insertion via browser (sql is unfortunately not possible)
 
@Neil So no server-side stuff?
 
2:39 PM
@refp ಠ_ಠ
 
@Insilico No :(
 
"if it's not null etc" brainfuck doesn't do conditionals like that either
 
Our company is moving our site to a third party
 
Again, this is not helpful advice
 
2:40 PM
please stop wasting my time
 
They use joomla though, surely there's some sort of plugin I could use.. hmm..
 
(x) needs to be a conditional in itself
and you can't check for null
you can do [-] which reduces to 0
 
Why do I care?
[ checks for null.
 
2:41 PM
I'm validating that one.
 
@AgainstASicilian You're asking Brainfuck questions in Lounge<C++>. And you think we're wasting your time?
 
I'm validating it too.
 
yeah, probably the right thing to do..
And silence for 30 minutes?
 
If others follow suit.
I doubt it.
 
user784668
@EtiennedeMartel lol, United States: 0
 
2:44 PM
Now, where's the sbinator when you need him?
 
Here I am catching up on the trascript and this Brainfuck conversation is apparently still going on. :P (Hi, folks.)
 
@EtiennedeMartel Is that what's required by law?
 
@Collin Yep.
 
Xeo
@AnnaLear Welcome! hands over the popcorn
 
2:45 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Part-Time folks here generally get nothing, it sucks
 
@Collin Yeah. Of course companies would usually provide some kind of paid holidays or they wouldn't attract any good employees.
 
I get 4ish weeks + 8 or something holidays
 
Unless said company is run by a PHB.
 
@EtiennedeMartel In reality, most white collar jobs in the US allow about 14 days paid vacation a years, and 5 or 6 holidays and probably another 5 sick days a year... Not all that bad really.
 
@EtiennedeMartel We're winning!
 
2:48 PM
My company starts you at 2 weeks (80hrs) vacation, 1 week (40hrs) personal (sick time), and 10 holiday days. Vacation increases by about a week every 3-5 years. Something like that.
(US)
 
@AnnaLear Nothing special. I'm trying to help someone that doesn't deserve.
 
Just because I question your answer doesn't make me undeserving
Me calling your answer unhelpful and/or antagonistic follows suit, similarly
 
Xeo
Your general attitude makes you undeserving.
 
@JimNorton The US is still the only advanced nation that does not enforce any kind of vacations.
 
Entertaining though this was to read, I have a proposition... @RMartinhoFernandes, stop responding to @AgainstASicilian, and vice versa. This whole conversation is clearly not working out well for either of you.
 
user784668
2:50 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes In Poland it's 20+13 or 26+13, depending on how long one's been employed. You're not necessarily winning :P
 
@SamDeHaan We start with 21 days vacation/sick time (use it however you like) and 8 holidays, after 10 years I think you start getting 28 vacation days
 
@Fanael We're having to cut down on it anyway. "Winning" here is not good for us.
@AnnaLear You're right. I should have done that a while ago.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, companies in the US aren't forced by law to provide such benefits to employees. But we get them anyway as a means for companies to attract talent.
 
And @AgainstASicilian, if you're not happy with the help you're getting in chat, it sounds like your question would be fine for SO itself, so why not ask it there and get more help that way? :)
 
@AnnaLear Which is why I said if he doesn't actually know/is not willing to actually address the source of confusion without being condescending or dismissive, he should just not bother in the first place.
 
2:52 PM
You have to be kidding me. Getline gives \r.
 
@AnnaLear I did ask it on SO
 
@AgainstASicilian You've made that point in abundance. It's time to let it go.
 
he also creeped into my question on SO and did the same thing there, too
 
@JimNorton Still, if you have a crappy low pay job in Canada, you still get vacation days. You probably don't in the US.
 
@AnnaLear You asked, I answered
 
2:53 PM
@AnnaLear ¬_¬ I guess from your blue name an overly sarcastic response about how we have already told him this would not be the smartest of moves...
 
@AgainstASicilian She didn't "ask" anything. Notice, her name is blue. That means her "proposition" is what you should do if you don't desire disciplinary action.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's true. To get those type of benefits, you pretty much need a decent job. It's kind of a shame we don't have such laws. I think everybody who works full time deserves vacation with pay.
 
@thecoshman It's before noon on Monday and I'm still caffeinating. Sarcasm away... I'll probably miss it. :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel Between my wife and I, we've never had a part-time job that actually offers vacation or sick time. Get sick? Welp, don't get paid today.
 
@JimNorton Yeah, at least on holidays.
 
2:55 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Yep..
 
And when you're allowed to work "part-time" for 40 hours a week, it's a little dumb
 
@JimNorton The problem is that if you do propose legislation for mandatory vacation days (which I would like to see), the companies will lobby their ass off to prevent it. :-(
 
@AnnaLear oh well... basically what I just said :P but with a much snarkier tone... and maybe questioning of your intelligence and/or sexuality.
 
user784668
Dang.
 
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Q: Will not compile

user1305471i am wanting to do some modifications to this program. Its a darts scorer for the pc i have got the source code from the developer's website but when i load it into a c++ compiler it will not build again! Ive attempted to contact the dev but it looks like he stopped a good few years ago. All co...

best title ever
 
2:56 PM
zzzzz
 
@thecoshman Cool. I'll fill in the blanks. Pretend I got really offended and banned you from chatting. So, like... just don't say anything for a while? :P
 
I HAVE to take a block of ten consecutive works days of at some stage during the year. Not that I have to be allowed to, but I have to take such time off
 
@thecoshman WTF?
 
user784668
Guess when does p = multiprocessing.Pool(processes=666) spawn the subprocesses.
 
@thecoshman finance industry?
 
2:57 PM
@Fanael Right now?
 
@bamboon What a brilliant question.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes no, I was thinking something more like, "Oh, well that's a fucking brilliant idea! Why don;t you run to the paten office with that one!"
 
@Insilico The Merkin government is a wonderful thing, isn't it? /QQ
 
@ecatmur No
 
user784668
@RMartinhoFernandes Yup. Effectively filling my RAM. Yes, it's my fault, for I shouldn't use a ridiculous number of subprocesses.
 
2:57 PM
@ecatmur apparently, standard practice :S some EU law or so I hear
 
@Fanael Demon spawning?
 
@SamDeHaan Yup. The American gov't is also wonderful as well, run by brilliant people. :-P
 
user784668
 
Chat update!
Whatever that means.
 

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