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11:00 PM
Damn. I just shat blood.
 
that's not healthy, man
 
I've used Bloodshat Dev-C++ too much. xD
I know. :/
Ah well if this continues I'll visit a doctor.
 
TMM.*
Tell me more.
 
Ell
Hi guys
Ew...
4
 
11:10 PM
lolz
 
Ell
You need E-z cream, a cinco product
 
No, I just need more virgins. I'm almost running out of blood.
 
Ell
:o
 
huh
a ^ (a && b) == a && (a ^ b)
that I did not know
 
11:17 PM
that always leaves the bits in b that are not set in a
 
it's a boolean op
 
oh, wait, not binary
 
Ell
What is ^? And is && "and"? Why not &?
 
@Ell ^ is bitwise xor.
 
There's no other xor.
 
Ell
11:19 PM
Right kk ta
 
&& is logical and, & is binary and
 
@CatPlusPlus Logical xor, which is operator!=(bool, bool).
 
Eh, I wouldn't call inequality XOR.
 
@CatPlusPlus there's a lot of similarity. I would
 
For Booleans it's practically the same.
(true != true) == false, (false != false) == false, (false != true) == true, (true != false) == true
 
11:21 PM
It does what an XOR should, but still - heretic. :Đ
 
For booleans ^ works just fine.
 
the important thing is
the new identity means that I can discover EVEN MOAR INFOMASHUNS
as a && (a ^ b) is easier to solve than a ^ (a && b).
by the way, it's cocking hard to find ESOP axioms on The Interwebs
 
Alright, time to sexify the forum system. PHP is making me yuck.
 
Use Python instead of PHP.
@ScottW Me neither.
 
Python <3
HAH!
 
Ell
11:29 PM
Use ruby
 
@ScottW At least Jython in that case.
@Ell Ruby < Python
 
I'd rather soak my hand in kerosene, light it up and fist fuck a goat than use Java.
6
 
Use Haskell.
 
I'm going to make some sketches before I continue working on Hexapoda.
 
Haskell is sexy.
 
Ell
11:30 PM
Python < Ruby
 
Diamond > Ruby
 
Ell
Haskell is gibberish
 
@Ell No!
It's the other way around.
 
Ell
Pokémon Ruby > Pokémon Python
 
Python > Pokémon
 
Ell
11:32 PM
Because pokemon python doesnt exist
Subtract pokémon from both sides
There is proof that ruby > python
 
Ruby doesn't even have modules.
It has namespaces and calls them "modules".
 
Ell
Yes it does?
You can mix in a module, not a namespace
 
Oh mixins. How wonderful.
 
Ell
:D they are pretty kewl
What are pythons modules like?
I'm not qualified to say ruby > python because I never used it
All I know is that whitespace is significant which is kewl
 
You have modules and packages and they are organized according to their location in the file system.
from hexapoda.template import render would import the render function from /hexapoda/template.py, for example.
 
Ell
11:35 PM
Like java?
 
I'd say more like Haskell.
 
Ell
Okau
But will it mix? (in)
 
How do you mean?
If I do from hexapoda.template import render, I can use render anywhere in scope.
For example, this would work and httpserver is only available within that if statement.
from hexapoda.application import application

if __name__ == '__main__':
  from paste import httpserver
  httpserver.serve(application, host='127.0.0.1', port='1337')
application is available anywhere in the file.
 
Ell
I was just making a reference to the youtube series "will it blend", ignore that
 
Actually, it will be available after if, but only if it executes.
 
11:38 PM
Oh.
 
Only scope introducers in Python are functions.
 
Ell
But of course you can do the same in ruby... Sort of
 
@CatPlusPlus Ah oh that's cool. That can simplify my URI router.
 
Ell
And I dislike the stuff
 
And from X import Y should rather be avoided if possible.
At least IMO. Namespacing good.
 
Ell
11:39 PM
Oops I mean __ stuff __
Ugh I'm too tired to try again
 
Like __call__? I find that pretty cool.
@CatPlusPlus Hmm I don't like the idea of importing all the things if you don't need them.
 
Ell
It looks ugly
 
I'll take a look at what some popular projects do.
 
@RadekSlupik Module always executes in entirety.
 
@Ell It looks nice.
 
11:42 PM
import X creates a name X that's bound to module object.
 
Ell
Anyway I have a geography exam anyway so I best be sleeping. Nighty night :)
No it looks diseased!
Anyway, night
 
from X import stuff only pulls specific stuff.
 
Später.
 
from X import * pulls everything or everything in X.__all__.
 
@CatPlusPlus So if I import X, I need to do X.stuff() instead of just stuff() right?
 
11:43 PM
And sucks and it's not something you should be using often.
@RadekSlupik Yes.
Namespacing good.
 
Ah k.
I just started with Python today.
 
A bold step - offering an alternative to PHP. You can't really fuck it up now, can you?
 
rofl
 
> Ducks are humanoids that vaguely resemble humans in their appearance, but their build is lighter, their face is shaped oddly, and they have beaks and feathers.
 
lol
 
11:47 PM
Also, ducks taste nice.
 
I'm trying out BatMUD.
 
Humans taste nice too.
 
You can play as ducks and penguins.
 
ducks are a distributed intelligence running the mind of Buddha.
 
does that mean you can kill Buddha by killing all the ducks?
 
11:48 PM
heh
 
and Buddha likes to rape himself?
 
Looks cool.
Lol you can play as leech.
> Wealthiest Leechs
> Leeches are two-three centimeter long worms that use their mental powers as their weapons. Their tendency is to leech experience points from nearby people when hungry. They are green.
 
The number of races is pretty much a direct proof that quantity > quality in that game.
 
> Because of their appearance, Skeletonius Sapiens is often mixed up with their more common cousin Skeletonius Maleficus. The main difference between the two is that Skeletonius Sapiens is fully sentient and usually benevolent in nature while Skeletonius Maleficus is not.
It's a game that has over 20 years.
They had time to churn out new content.
DCSS has enormous amount of races, too, and they manage to not only maintain quality but provide distinct playstyles for many.
 
There is almost 40 races from what I see. That's an average of 2 per year. Still too much.
38
okay
Imagine the culture 3 species could get with the same time investment.
 
11:53 PM
MUDs are usually more player-driven, anyway.
This game has robots that can eat corpses.
 

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