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6:00 PM
and I'd be in there right now, but, Naniwa vs Livezerg and Naniwa's a game down, keke
 
@rubenvb loled"
> 229 people left their sense of humor in their other stick.
 
@sehe that is funny isn't it. That whole show is funny as hell. The second one is also very funny. After that... everything the guy says is lame.
 
Arrrghh. Nawaz is "harassing" me again with pseudo-answers.
 
poor robot.
 
@DeadMG You are to return to project with immediate effect :P
 
6:04 PM
@rubenvb i haven't seen, but from that short description, sounds like it got managed?
 
oh, I've been here all day, didn't really go anywhere
 
Both MSVC and Clang complain
 
@Cicada they do that all the time. whining compilers
 
@CheersandhthAlf what do you mean, "got managed"? He just runs out of funny stuff to say. American style.
@Cicada you're complaining too. And for no obvious reason I can see here and now.
 
@Cicada MSVC doesn't even know about variadic templates.
 
6:06 PM
@rubenvb "managed" is when some manager decides to "manage". imposing rules. usually based on ignorance
 
@RMartinhoFernandes WHAT?? It's already June!
 
@rubenvb How exactly am I complaining? Just reporting the results of my tests to Martinho
 
@RMartinhoFernandes or constexpr
 
@CheersandhthAlf ah. Make the "money-over-funny" decision. Yeah, it would seem so, but I don't know the details.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes STL is doing a hell of a job compensating for the compiler team
 
6:08 PM
@Cicada then I must have missed the subject of your tests somewhere...
 
I am feeling stupid. I really can't follow.
 
@Cicada can't say i got more wise from that unlinked remark, "have you tried msvc"
well i have tried msvc since, like, early 90's
 
lol
 
but what is it about?
 
6:10 PM
@CheersandhthAlf Yeah, those macros must be painful.
 
i think "painful" must only be the continent-away view's impression of it
 
Partial class template specialization follows the same rules as function template parameter deduction, right?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes didn't you ask that, like, a week ago?
anyway it's defined in terms of function parameter deduction
but it's very indirect and i don't remember
 
@CheersandhthAlf Hmm, maybe.
 
it's, like, complex
why would windows mediaplayer refuse to play flac files? the play ok in vlc?
 
6:14 PM
@CheersandhthAlf WMP uses DirectShow or WMF codecs (depending on Windows version)
 
@CheersandhthAlf Not MS format, obviously
 
There's flac DirectShow/WMF codecs
 
it has played other flac files i think
General
Complete name                            : D:\media\music\general\Nils Lofgren\Nils Lofgren 1977 - I Came To Dance (Remaster 2010) [flac]\01 I Came To Dance.flac
Format                                   : FLAC
Format/Info                              : Free Lossless Audio Codec
File size                                : 31.9 MiB
Duration                                 : 4mn 34s
Overall bit rate                         : 975 Kbps
Album                                    : I Came To Dance (Remaster 2010)
 
not possible without something like this ^
 
ah
wait, it plays the individual file i now discovered
it's only the folder it protests against
 
6:17 PM
ah yes. WMP sucks.
 
pretty silly behavior, it's like lvalues in rvalues in C++: it can play each individual file, but not the collection.
 
Please tell me you knew that?
 
i had an inkling?
 
One of the reasons Linux is pretty good at media. Everything knows about all formats (mostly)
 
6:20 PM
Icecream with bacon.
 
bacon just isn't that tasty
 
That's kind of the point? That thing is disgusting. :D
 
The puppy is blaspheming again?
But yeah, ice cream with bacon is disgusting.
 
@DomagojPandža i'm st33ling that!
 
"I like offending people because I think people who get offended should be offended" - Linus Torvalds
 
6:24 PM
Linus Torvalds is a megadouche.
 
maybe I'm late to that... I don't check reddit very often.
 
Why does this trigger a warning?
bool decrement_byte(std::int8_t& byte)
{
  if(byte==0x80) // 10000000 = -128
comparison is always false due to limited range of datatype.
 
vlc plays cue file but says all tracks are 40 minutes and something
wmp doesn't even understand what cue file is
 
@RMartinhoFernandes can't really be, since he's on mumble talking to me
 
@rubenvb 0x80 = 256, not -128.
How often have people told you to use unsigneds?
 
6:26 PM
@Mysticial definition of Trøll
 
4 mins ago, by DeadMG
bacon just isn't that tasty
@sehe Proof.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Well, you could ask him. He just left. (Or, in his own word "Trucked off" since he was "going to do some coding")
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yet this website disagrees: planetcalc.com/747
ffs
 
Oh. I see. Questioning the value of bacon
Heresy
 
1000 0000 in a signed char is really -128.
 
6:28 PM
depends on the byte size, obviously
and the representation of signed integers
 
@rubenvb That website is not C++.
0x80 is 256.
 
8 bit byte. Two's complement as kind of required by C++ IIANM
 
@rubenvb No, it's not required.
Also, 0x80 is an int, which cannot be 8 bit.
Use unsigned for handling bits.
2
 
I do. I have one single signed integer.
the rest is unsigned.
 
One single signed integer fucks everything.
 
6:30 PM
I'll just use int8_t(-128) then.
sheesh
 
wouldn't ~uint8_t(0) be equivalent?
 
Oh god, don't give him ideas.
 
lol
 
Well, as long as it's good ideas? What's wrong with mine
 
6:33 PM
It's not uint8_t.
But no, ~uint8_t(0) is 255.
 
3 mins ago, by rubenvb
I'll just use int8_t(-128) then.
 
I'm not sure what the goal was. I was assuming 0xb11111111 was the goal
 
6 mins ago, by rubenvb
1000 0000 in a signed char is really -128.
 
The goal was -128 two's complement.
 
no, the goal was -128.
so I could detect underflow.
 
6:35 PM
Sorry, missed the one.
 
lol
 
Signed over/underflows are UB.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes that's why I'm checking ;-)
 
and it works. Next is full blown addition and subtraction.
 
6:36 PM
Anyway, why not write exactly what you want?
if(byte == std::numeric_limits<int8_t>::min())
 
that would just hide my inevitable incompatibility with some or other platform in other parts of the code.
But it's not a bad idea idd.
 
It's not about compatibility, it's about readability, and non-error-proneness.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes AHAHA
 
@RMartinhoFernandes What. Portugal scored a complementary goal?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes the powers that be thought about making non-deduced parameters be "skipped" if they are pack expansions. so that this will work: template<typename ...T, typename ...U> void f(T..., U...); int main() { f(1, 2); }. Then T would be empty and U would be <int, int> if i remember correctly.
 
6:43 PM
Why
 
Perhaps we will get such things after compilers agreed on its semantics. perhaps GCC already works like that?
 
because T... is a nondeduced context. so it will not "pick away" arguments from the "U..."
 
But nondeduced does not mean "deduce as empty", right?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Yeah I get the logic. But "why" as to: what is the use case
 
6:44 PM
You could do f<int>(1, 2) then T would be <int> and U would also be <int>.
@sehe dunno anymore
 
Oh bummer. I bet it has to do with TMP edge cases only :)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes it will not participate in deduction. so it makes sense to me that the compiler will just skip it and gives all the arguments to U
it kinda works like that for other nondeduced contexts too, just that the "skip size" is 1 then instead of 0 (or "number of explicit arguments for that parameter", more precisely).
not sure about the precise benefits tho
but it kinda makes sense
Ah gcc already implements it like that. Clang just causes a deduction failure
clang's behavior seems to be not consistent or hard to crasp. not sure :)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes woot... :)
 
Who is pwning, Netherlands or Portugal?
 
6:56 PM
My neighbours are making a lot of noise
 
It's a draw.
 
@sehe :D
 
1-1?
 
Holland better win.
 
Why?
 
6:57 PM
germans win
 
I want Holland — Germany in the final match.
 
@RadekSlupik That'd be (let me check with my broker)
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I mean this match.
 
@RadekSlupik only around 175 Mio EUR. The normal rate for bribes would be 125m EUR but the extra charge is for short notice
 
6:58 PM
I'm hoping that Denmark wins
 
Sooo... we all into footy now?
No one's mumbling. I could turn up the volume so you can hear my neighbours :)
 
No.
I'm into Python.
Pwnthon
Yeah, my Python regex-based URI router is working! I'm so good.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Ah. Only 0-1 in my timezone :)
 
Just found a livestream on internet. Works nicely
 
7:02 PM
@sehe I don't get the joke.
 
@RadekSlupik What's your point?
 
6 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
It's a draw.
 
@sehe Oh it wasn't a joke? I'm confused now.
How's that related to timezones?
 
he means, it's independent to timezones
 
7:03 PM
@RadekSlupik That would be the joke
 
You and I have a different kind of humor.
:P
 
it's so funny lolface
 
21 mins ago, by sehe
@RMartinhoFernandes What. Portugal scored a complementary goal?
 
Oh, when someone confuses about facts, I try to make it sound like a coincident (like, most of the time, when I measure it, 3+3 is nearly equal to 6)
 
7:04 PM
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Now I see. Good one
 
lol baseline fail.
 
@RadekSlupik CROP FAIL
 
7:05 PM
14 secs ago, by Radek Slupik
lol baseline fail.
@JohannesSchaublitb who who who
hello hungry dog
 
Woot, Germany wins.
 
hi. southern comfort
 
That is awesome.
 
@ScottW I have ketchup-flavored crisps.
 
Again.
 
7:06 PM
Is it 2-1 for NL now?
 
Huh it was 1-1 before?
 
lol
As is, Portugal and Germany move on. :P
 
@RadekSlupik that was nerdy punny
 
10 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
It's a draw.
 
7:07 PM
harvests confusion
 
People from Lounge y u always so confusing.
 
I don't think Portugal will make it
 
I don't think.
 
It will probably be Germany and Holland
 
 
7:08 PM
@ManofOneWay Shut up. We're making it so far.
 
Hormany
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Shut up. We're whining. FTFY
 
@sehe hyperlink would be nice.
 
Denmark!!!
1-1!!!!!!
 
7:09 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Why did I speak?
 
@sehe thx
 
Only in NL
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Not any more!
 
@sehe lag
 
7:09 PM
@RadekSlupik I don't know
 
Denmark just scored here. So lag =?
 
You guys suck.
 
Denmark better lose.
 
Definitely.
 
7:10 PM
neuer was without chance
 
Curling > soccer.
 
sucker
 
We're in it again.
 
Wait.
Black is Netherlands? Why not orange?
 
7:14 PM
Why not lemon
 
Why not invisible.
 
@RadekSlupik Because it's confusing against red.
 
i can't stop thinking about PORNO when reading the abbreviation of PORTUGAL
 
Oh I thought it was orange instead of red.
 
Portugal is red, dummy.
 
7:15 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb There we go
 
I stopped caring, actually
This chat is yet another internets
 
@ScottW Why wouldn't I talk about PORN if @Cicada is here?
 
what about Cicada?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb When I went to IOI, they assigned us codes made up of: three-letter abbreviation of country, C for "contestant", and 0n with n from 1 to 4 (there were four-element teams).
 
7:16 PM
hmm
 
Sneijder is a dwarf.
 
Portuguese would end up with PORC01, ... which reads like "pig1" in Portuguese.
Then they changed it to PRTC01.
 
Pork is the tastiest meat.
 
Not counting bacon, beef is better.
 
EAT ALL THE PIGS
 
/me sips his milk honey combo
 
You just don't know good meat.
You should trust me on that, I'm a carnivore.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes You are an oilvore, robot.
 
pork > beef
 
This chat is full of pig-lovers, I see.
 
7:22 PM
@sehe This one can be misquoted too, keep it as a reference
 
Me gusta.
 
@Cicada The appropriate verb should be "discontexted".
 
Discontexted, seheified
 
speaking of pork, rib cartilage is a great exercise for the jaw muscles
 
7:23 PM
Spare ribs <3
 
Cartilage? WTF. I like meat, man. Not pseudo-bones.
 
new york spare ribs is something else?
 
The pork industry
 
i like the meat-on-bone of back ribs
 
7:24 PM
@RadekSlupik me gusta me pigsta FTFY
 
@RMartinhoFernandes i like both, but pork bones are too rigid for my tastes
 
We've been porned.
 
lol wut?
 
7:25 PM
Portugal vs Nederland; soccer.
Hmm there is an ambulance in front of my house. :/
 
7:28 PM
@Cicada with an "ALL THE", the meme goes flat very quickly.
**without
 
@RadekSlupik You're doing it wrong
 
@RMartinhoFernandes One of the teams where I work is working on a Jurassic Park game. People on my team are calling it "Jurassic Pork".
We're trying to lobby to add pigs as an easter egg, but alas, to no avail.
 
Seriously, it must have pigs.
To feed the dinos.
 
what's that weird beer guy appearing in many of those lol pics
 
It's The Most Interesting Man In The World.
 
7:30 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb it's from the dos equis commerical
 
user image
4
 
O_o
 
also see know your meme
 
7:30 PM
What does this meeeeeeean?
 
Double rainbow!
 
Oh my *god*
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Bacon is good for the T-Rex.
 
Bacon is good.
 
7:32 PM
Also.
 
OMG! someone's not educated on meme's!
blasphemy
 
Apple y u no Python instead of Objective-C.
 
Can you elaborate on the Standard's text in simple words, possibly with one or two examples? — Nawaz 32 mins ago
xD
 
Das ist ganz geil.
 
This is a gift from the Heavens
Use it well, my child
 
7:41 PM
lol
 
@JohannesSchaublitb your hair looks different on every picture I've seen of you, that's only 2 or 3, but nevertheless
 
germany u so silly
 
polyhairous
 
Your hair looks awfully greasy on that picture.
 
7:46 PM
uuuuh that clash
 
i seriously want to play with typeracer on my n900
 
my hair was clean :/ it's a year old pic
i will make a new pic once we arrive at europa park next month again xD
that pic was taken at Europa Park too
 
the m50vm's individual keycaps are not all screwdriver-servicable
the smaller keys are a bitch to reinstall
meh, new KB is $18, so no good reason to whine
 
this is silly. i've been trying for half an hour to get memegenerator to work over low bandwidth connection. now i can't remember what meme i was thinking of
 
7:59 PM
> low bandwidth
dialup or restrictive data plan?
 
ooh -- the picture appeared!
restrictive
it suits my mother
 

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