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3:00 PM
hmm
 
Xeo
The two-liner is a lot clearer than what the one-liner would be, I think
 
I have no exercise for my page on std::deque
 
user1182183
@kbok can't I upload / link to my own stuff? Youtube users sometimes like to 'delete' their videos/music
 
user142019
Oh got it, videoID <- return . fromJust =<< getParam "id".
 
@DeadMG Do you need ideas?
 
3:01 PM
yep
 
user1182183
I don't like to rely on 3rd parties
 
@GamErix I'm afraid only youtube is supported
 
user142019
@Xeo I find the two-liner so ugly, since I have to do this a lot. I’ll just write a function that does this.
 
@Cicada translation plz
I presume some sort of exclamation
 
3:03 PM
@thecoshman Hmmm how can I put that
 
@Cicada in English?
 
"AAAAH MY GOD MY EYES MY EARS HELP"
 
huh...
 
user1182183
girls...
 
user142019
3:05 PM
justParam :: MonadSnap m => ByteString -> m ByteString
justParam x = return . fromJust =<< getParam x
-- Does the job.
 
Let's join the Windows 8 chat and troll!
2
 
user142019
Haha asking questions about Cocoa and GTK.
 
"Hi guis, I can't find the start menu. Where is it? please help"
 
user1182183
I don't know if I should be happy because I don't understand them or I should be unhappy because I don't understand them ;>
 
3:06 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Oh the rage at 0:05
 
@Cicada o_0
 
@EtiennedeMartel My ears are on period.
 
@Cicada oooh, so that's how it works
 
Featuring pain.
 
and I've got virtually nothing to write about std::list
 
3:09 PM
@DeadMG "it's a list"
 
inorite
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel then I prefer this
 
The W8 room isn't even funny :(
"Hi guise, anyone here has some experience with Cocoa & GTK? Please help"
"I think you're in the wrong place."
 
link plz
(cba to find it my self)
 

Apptivate Chat

For discussion about building Windows 8 apps for Apptivate.ms
 
user1182183
3:11 PM
@Cicada the cpp lounge is the only funiest room anywhere
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: We is the funnies, we promise [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
lol "must be a troll, has a girl pic"
 
@Cicada sorry, turns out you have a cock, and not the sort you eat... unless you mean so in an innuendo sort of way
 
@thecoshman There's a sort you don't eat?
 
^ Some girl looking for a boyfriend announces on github
 
3:14 PM
@Cicada They're Windows fanbois. Of course they're unfunny.
 
> Someone who prefers Mac/Linux to Windows.
What.
 
> Favorite words: "justice", "potential", "freedom", "contribute"
Sounds like a conservative to me.
 
Xeo
@Luchian: Now that answer is non-sense. How does changing one pointer change anything on another pointer?
 
FWIW she's japanese
 
> Alcohol: 1-2 times per year.
Well fuck it.
 
3:17 PM
@Xeo that is bullshit.
(my answer)
 
@EtiennedeMartel same here :)
 
Xeo
@LuchianGrigore That clarification helped. :P
 
@Xeo Hmm. Isn't that the whole point of strict aliasing, not having that kind of situation?
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel I meant the pointer itself, not what it points to
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel me.. wel 1-2 times a month
 
3:18 PM
@Xeo Oh.
@GamErix Me, 1-2 times a week.
 
Xeo
the situation was X* a = ...; X* b = a; a = 0; // b unchanged
 
@EtiennedeMartel at least? that's easy
 
Used to drink more in university.
 
> Someone who plays at most only 1 hour of videogames a day
 
@kbok She's strict as fuuuck.
 
user1182183
3:18 PM
@EtiennedeMartel so, who here every day? :P
 
> Someone who can play classic or jazz piano.
 
> Someone who can go the winter without turning on the AC/heater.
Not in Massachusetts!
 
> Languages: Java, PHP, Perl, HTML
Not someone you'd want to date anyway :)
 
user142019
oh
 
3:19 PM
@Collin Or in Quebec. Damn.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I guess she's in japan? Does it not get cold in japan?
 
It's like a rollercoaster of "do not want".
 
user1182183
@kbok my GF gives a fuck about anything computer related
 
@Collin From what I've seen, not a lot. Although they're probably weaklings who put on 10 layers of clothes when it's -10°C.
 
user1182183
except youtube and some horror games
 
3:20 PM
shit, I have to go home... but having too much fun
 
@EtiennedeMartel I usually go all winter with t-shirt, hoodie, fleece jacket
 
in Windows 8 Developers Chat, 3 mins ago, by rudi_visser
SO. MANY. TROLLS.
 
Xeo
@LuchianGrigore haha
 
FWIW I think it's totally stupid to write down a list of criteria and it's missing the point
 
when it gets really cold I might put a long sleeve shirt instead of the T
 
3:21 PM
A good relashionship will be worth supporting the smoke or the videogames nights
 
see y'ah later maties!
 
cya my nigga
 
@thecoshman Later. Oh, and hi all.
 
@kbok vidyagaems yes (ofc) smoking no
 
3:24 PM
@kbok ...not to mention seeming at least somewhat self-contradictory. You can't play video games much -- but I play so much I'm a level nine master at game X on one of my three portables or two consoles...
 
wowowowo I'm getting flagged in the W8 room. This is getting interesting now.
 
user142019
I cancelled the flag.
 
@Collin Fahrenheit? The fuck.
 
user142019
Who the fuck uses Fahrenheit.
 
Merkins.
 
user142019
3:25 PM
Every country in the world uses Celsius except the USA.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Fine fine...
 
@kbok is your email address really kbok@hotmail.co.uk ?
 
@LuchianGrigore well, ... no ?
 
user142019
Who the fuck uses Hotmail.
 
didn't hotmail get subsumed into windows live?
 
3:26 PM
@WTP'-- I do.
 
user142019
WHY
 
user142019
WTF man, I though you were cool. :(
 
@WTP'-- Oddly, no. Silly trivia of the day: Jamaica also uses Fahrenheit.
 
@DeadMG Hahahahahahaha.
 
3:27 PM
@EtiennedeMartel What? It's from about 2002.
I use it for those places where I don't want to give my real address
so I guess that "uses" is a bit of a misnomer, I hardly ever actually use it
 
Yeah right.
 
@DeadMG Oh like mailinator and stuff?
 
Moan... Cicada, Coshman, kbok trolling on W8. I don't have W8 and so I don't know any inane questions to ask:(( I suck at trolling.
 
Xeo
Seems SO fixed the chat search for specific users - it's actually fast now.
 
@MartinJames Just ask anything unrelated
"why can't I make babies the way i make cheesecakes? it'd be so much easier"
 
3:29 PM
@MartinJames Moan?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Probably meant yawn
@ScottW Bon appétit
 
@EtiennedeMartel My trolling exeperience is sadly lacking :((
 
exeperience that's a good start
 
@Cicada I can't believe ecodisks actually exists
That moment when you totally make something up and it actually exists.
 
It's pretty common on the internet
 
3:40 PM
ecodisks ain't no common
 
Making up something that actually exists is
 
hmm
 
The trolling is becoming painful now. Maybe you should put poor Praveen out of his misery.
 
perhaps I should open up my Standard Library segment with std::tuple.
then I can talk about std::tie when talking about std::map
 
We should just get Alf to go to that room and the job's done
 
@MartinJames ah come on, he's Indian, he can take it
 
@DeadMG Yeah, that would be good. Although, I think opening up with vector to be a better idea.
 
user142019
LG is terrible.
 
(Disclaimer, I did not read your tutorial, so perhaps you already talk about vector earlier)
 
@EtiennedeMartel I actually open with array right now.
and tuple, unfortunately, isn't currently in it
I could go array->vector->deque->list->tuple->map
 
3:45 PM
@LuchianGrigore > Fake! You can see the greenscren reflection under the handle at 1:26
 
@Cicada On peut pas tout avoir dans la vie.
 
hmmm
unordered_map's "next" currently appears to be... unordered_map.
 
@DeadMG Sounds cyclical.
 
? Can not to have all during life ?
 
Man, when I open up some third party library, ReSharper always freaks up and displays a huge bunch of warnings.
It's like these guys never heard of best practices.
@MartinJames You can't have everything in life.
 
3:52 PM
In life, you cannot have everything!
 
OK, got it in the end. My French is poor:(
 
Lemonade.
 
boost
I need a Boost section
 
@EtiennedeMartel Resharper can be kinda nazi at times too
 
3:53 PM
@Cicada Nah. LINQIFY ALL THE THINGS
@DeadMG You should present it as "if you're still stuck on C++03, then you'll need this".
 
"ReSharper warning #23867382: Best practice: use a giant lambda instead of a static Main"
 
@Cicada No.
 
@DeadMG Then you need a reservoir capacitor and a high-reverse breakdown diode.
 
Still, ReSharper hates C#2 devs, obviously.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Naw. There's still optional, any, filesystem, and a few others that weren't made completely redundant by C++11
 
3:57 PM
@DeadMG Good points.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Asio, Spirit, MPL, Fusion, Phoenix
 
Then Boost could also be an introduction to "how to use external libraries".
 
BOOST GRAPH LIBRARY
 
not really sure I'd class Boost as an external library
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Meh, since Boost is mostly header-only, I'd not use that
 
3:57 PM
I mean, it's generally high-quality and written in C++, for one
 
Do you talk bout the compilation model? I've seen way too many noobs getting fucked in the ass by that.
 
Xeo
lol
Oh yeah, Iterator and Range too
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes, that's important
also most vexing parse of course
 
Xeo
3:59 PM
Really, it's only a pretty small part of Boost that's become rather irrelevant with C++11
 
anyway
where was I?
ah yeah, patching up the Standard Library segment
 
@Xeo I'd argue it's the most important one, but yeah.
 
I agree
pre-C++11 shared_ptr, bind and maybe even lambda would have been extremely indispensable tools
 
Why do the people in the win 8 room look so dull ;_;
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel I never said how important that part is
Only that it's a small part
 
4:02 PM
@Cicada Because you've sucked the lifeblood from us ;-)
 
@Cicada Win8 kills people from the inside
 
I should change that page
 
Xeo
Btw puppy, you forgot list-initialization.
 
oya
that actually counts as a different kind of initialization?
 
Xeo
4:03 PM
Sure
 
thought it was just direct-initialization with an initializer-list
 
@rudi_visser that means you're easy to troll (which is not a compliment)
 
Xeo
You may not necessarily construct an initializer_list
think struct X{ int i; }; X x{42};.
 
I'm fairly sure that, semantically, that's the same as X x(42);, no?
 
@Cicada Haha, not really. It's just sad to see a somewhat normal conversation entirely derailed
 
4:04 PM
@rudi_visser So I succeeded? Perfect!
 
@Cicada But we've all been bored before, so dw :)
 
Xeo
Or struct X{ X(int){} }; X x{42};
 
@rudi_visser DWORD?
 
Xeo
@DeadMG There is no ctor taking int
 
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4:04 PM
yeah, aggregate/POD initialization I definitely did miss
 
Greetings!
 
so glad that in Wide, semantically, there's only one kind.
 
@Chimera Hi - did you just log on, or have you been trolling W8 too?
 
@DeadMG Why not rename "THE UGLY" into "THE UGLIES" btw
 
Xeo
list-initialization could be seen as an initialization switch. if(class_is_aggregate) return aggregate_initialization; if(class_has_list_ctor) return init_list_initialization; if(class_has_fitting_ctor) return direct_initialization;
 
4:06 PM
@MartinJames Just logged on.
 
naw
 
@DeadMG It would make an awesome pun on the movie name "The good, the bad and the ugly"
 
user142019
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@Chimera You should check out W8 - Cicada has sucked the life-force from them:)
 
that was the intention, as it were
the basic, the hard, and the ugly
 
4:07 PM
@MartinJames lol ok
 
> the twentieth letter is twenty letters long
failcakes
 
user142019
> This message was flagged as spam/offensive by 4 morons:
 
@DeadMG I am disturbed by the lack of s in the last. oh well do as you wish
 
@WTP'-- Yeah, we can read.
 
user142019
Me too.
 
4:08 PM
@WTP'-- > New spam/offensive flags SHOW ALL
 
@WTP'-- "WTP'--"
 
I'm out of the boring w8 room.
They are not fun to troll
 
Told ya.
 
why, that looks like Bootstrap
 
4:13 PM
What a surprise.
A website which looks like bootstrap. I can't believe it.
 
It doesn't look like boostrap to me
 
user142019
It uses Bootstrap.
 
I mean, yes, it's somehow similar, but it's not the bootstrap theme
 
Lol.. nice work @Cicada on W8
 
boostrap
 
user142019
4:14 PM
The name of the site ends in “Hub”, so it is made by hipsters, so it uses Bootstrap.
 
buttcoins
 
@DeadMG whats generic vs general?
 
@MooingDuck Generic refers to the dialect- that kind of "USE A TEMPLATE FOR EVERY THING" thing.
but it doesn't really need to exist anymore
I only got one entry for it anyway
 
user142019
<trollmode>But duck typing!</trollmode>
 
In my company, "generic" refers to something that doesn't work in all situations.
duct typing
 
4:16 PM
what's duck typing got to do with anything?
 
user142019
@kbok that makes no sense.
 
user142019
@DeadMG you can do duck typing with templates.
 
.... and?
 
user142019
Especially if every function is a template function and every argument is of a templated type.
 
user142019
like
 
4:17 PM
@WTP'-- "Why did the trade calculator crash ?" "Because the generic task planner doesn't support this kind of payoff"
 
user142019
template<class A, class B, class C>
void foo(A a, B b, C c);
 
Think about it again
The new guy always leaves like 1 hour and a half before all the others
 
@kbok Jonathan?
 
Of course he doesn't notice, because when people leave, he's not here
@Cicada What ?
 
@kbok I'm asking if it's Jonathan
 
4:23 PM
I don't recall mentioning anyone by that name
 
@kbok Does he come in one hour and a half before everyone?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, I don't know :)
 
@kbok Is his name Jonathan yes or no
 
@kbok Because if so, then no problem.
 
@Cicada No
@Cicada Also, what the hell ?
 
4:24 PM
Aw, too bad.
 
But I know a guy whose name's Jonathan
 
And is new? :)
Like, was hired a few months ago?
 
Not really, he's been here for about 10 months
 
Okay then no.
It's not him.
 
did I miss anything?
 
4:27 PM
I have Levy, Lellouche, Coyle, and Caux
 
@kbok Creek
 
@kbok It's one of these :D
Don't tell him I mentionned him though, we don't get on too well.
 
Is he the hobbit-looking one ?
 
He's super tall.
And I can't stand his code.
 
Glasses ?
 
4:32 PM
And he can't stand me.
Yeah glasses.
 
It's like playing Qui est-ce
clock
 
Is he in your department?
 
No
He's in the "FINACCUNT" team apparently
 
Good. // This is an automatique variable
FINAC CUNT, that suits him perfectly
 
fina cunt.
ahhhhh processing
hum he's like three rooms away from my office
I'm tempted to go pick a coffee near his just to see if he's that tall
 
4:36 PM
Compared to me he is.
Everyone is.
 
int nbCharBeforeArrow = pcWork - szFieldStorageLabel - 1;
is that him ?
nbCharBeforeArrow
 
what's the point in posting picture of cocaine or crack in the windows 8 chat
 
lol, there's a fair chance. wait, I'll try to find some of his code
 
this ^
 
@kbok pcWork is that a pointer to a professional computer ?
 
4:39 PM
@Cicada pointer to char AFAIR
 
@kbok Pun on PC WORK
 
@kbok i would name that nCharsBeforeArrow and I would not use the silly Hungarian prefixes pc and sz, which most often mislead and are just visual noise. they once supported the help system in Microsoft's Programmer's Workbench. that product is no longer
 
Also yes, it's probably him.
I'm reading some nbIterPerStep in my repo
 
I know, but I'd rather ignore the terrible joke
char acJoin[128] = { 0 };
sprintf(acJoin, "STR(%s->%s,10,0)", [...]
smooth
 
4:41 PM
It's a bit worrying that developers can be tracked by their code fingerprint, especially as I spent so much time running scripts that change my name in all the repos to some new guy just before finishing a job:((
 
socially awkward?
 
@kbok sprintf, wat
@MartinJames Well, the guy worked a bit on a project with me before moving to kbok's company, so he's not really being tracked by code style.
I removed all his code from the repo actually.
lol
 
We have some code normalization guidelines so it's quite hard to do that actually
But I used to be able to identify the author of an assignement when I was in uni
 
'code normalization' - sorry, but LOL!
 
by looking at the code
 
4:45 PM
@kbok here, if the code looks like shit, it's either from a student that's still learning, or a teacher
 
@Cicada you friend fucking loves using stringstreams to build SQL requests
 
@kbok He's not my friend, but YES he loves stringstreams.
 
Just kidding :)
Although TBH I wouldn't know how to do that without a library. I figure I'd just write an adequate library.
 
for (std::stringstream i; i.str().size() < 30; i << "lol") ...
 
Also FTR I can't tell him you mentionned him since I have no idea who you are.
 
4:50 PM
good, good
 
how was that who said good good all the time
 
@kbok you have a picture
 
was it silence of the lambs
 
@kbok There must be some Cicada code on here somewhere - send him that.
 
@MartinJames we have a life story
 
4:51 PM
coming here after a long time
 
Well I don't think mentioning me will bring back positive memories to him :D
 
I could just search for girls in her school - there can't be too many :p
 
@kbok or just show him the picture
 
20% exactly, out of about 1200 students
 
4:52 PM
this dog obviously gave a shit ^
 
@TonyTheLion lol
 
@Cicada But we know your level and your major
Also you have blonde hair
Which is uncommon
@TonyTheLion Labradors are cute even when they take a dump :p
 
._. I shouldn't have mentionned him
 
'An event is starting in 11 minutes in Windows 8 Developers Chat' - probably going to put a job out on Cicada <g>
 
@kbok oh of course. I used to have a labrador, what an awesome dog that was.
 
4:55 PM
Now you upvote all my answers or I'm doxxing you
 
@MartinJames I'm gonna get banned
 
@MartinJames can't wait to see VS initializing memory to 0xC1CADA :p
 
What's up with those <g> ?
 
@MartinJames where is this chat
 
@Cicada What? From W8? Who gives a labrador?
 
4:58 PM
@TonyTheLion I still have one
Well, my parents do.
 
@melak47 'Windows 8 Developers Chat' - start about an hour ago for LOL
@kbok We have a labradoodle. Bailey is mostly labrador, but with a beard and funny fur.
 

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