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1:01 PM
FUCKING OUTLOOK!!!
 
user142019
Y u use Outlook.
 
work
 
user142019
Oh. Sucks.
 
FUCKING SHITTY EXCEL SHIT
 
user142019
So you are tortured with both Outlook, Excel and ClearCase. Do you still enjoy your job?
 
1:03 PM
huh
MSDN listing gives DCAS, but not a double-width atomic write without compare?
 
@WTP'-- not in the slightest
 
user142019
Quit and find a new job in the reverse order.
 
user142019
Nothing is worse than doing something you don’t enjoy.
 
I need money to live off
but I am looking
 
user142019
oh cool
 
1:05 PM
there is fuck all in Ireland
 
user142019
Do you have a Careers profile?
 
I was trying with a place in the UK, but fairly sure I fucked it up
 
user142019
I got emailed twice on Stack Overflow Careers for a job offer.
 
@WTP'-- yeah, but not much worth while on it
 
user142019
Oh wait only once.
 
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1:06 PM
 
user142019
lolz why would anyone want me as an employee
 
I didn't even register on careers since they don't offer jobs outside the US
Plus I hate not being anonymous
 
user142019
@Cicada They do.
 
lol 'zero zero zero zero zero' :P
 
They do, but not nearly as much
At least last time I checked
 
1:07 PM
supposedly, they do
 
@Cicada meh, it's not all it's cracked up to be
 
but IME in reality they really don't
 
@WTP'-- What was the job ?
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Canonical_Huffman_code it seems the pseudo code is wrong, can somebody help me fix it ?
 
@jokoon does it not compile? :p
 
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1:09 PM
@kbok Ruby on Rails developer at a Dutch company.
 
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But I was 16 and still in high school so applying would have been a little moronic.
 
The "Joel Test Score" always cracks me up
 
It's bullshit.
 
@melak47 the algo does not work doesn't not mean it does not compile
 
user142019
Even if you score 12/12 on the Joel test, your company still sucks in some way.
 
1:10 PM
it doesn't not mean it does not compile?
interesting phrasing
 
@jokoon ಠ_ಠ
 
@melak47 I'm serious guys -_-
 
Look, we try to start the app and see if it crashes, it's a test and it's the only one we do, so yes, we have a unit test
 
stop making fun of my phrasing, I'm not fluent in english
please read the article comments
 
I'm didn't not make fun of it
 
1:12 PM
CBA thinking about huffman coding ._.
 
@Cicada CBA ?
 
@Cicada CBA
 
Please don't not make no fun of not pharsing not correct.
 
@Cicada CBA?
 
1:13 PM
@LuchianGrigore you too?
 
Can't bother about / Can't be assed (depends)
 
user142019
@sehe I study “informatica op HBO-niveau”, how would you translate that to English?
 
CBA => Can't be arsed
 
"Can't be assed" HA HA!
 
@Cicada don't be shy with the letter 'r', let it rule you!
 
1:13 PM
Can't not been not asked about
 
@WTP'-- HBO infotainment?
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
Hoger beroepsonderwijs
 
close to yet another plonking. My tolerance is getting lower and lower
 
@WTP'-- HBO-level IT but what does HBO means ?
When I see "HBO" I think about Game of Thrones
 
1:15 PM
@kbok isn't HBO a TV station? :p
 
Wait, does that means @WTP'-- 's degree is actually about watching TV all day ?
 
No HBO is a canonical huffman coding, its pseudocode is wrong on wikipedia
 
user142019
@kbok Hoger beroepsonderwijs, don’t know how to translate it.
 
user142019
It’s a bachelor degree, however.
 
presumably it translates as "Cocksucking"?
 
user142019
1:17 PM
Het hoger beroepsonderwijs, dat wordt afgekort als hbo, is een onderwijsvorm binnen het hoger onderwijs in Nederland en Vlaanderen. Nederland Hbo-opleidingen worden verzorgd door hogescholen. Zij leiden op tot hogerkaderfuncties binnen het bedrijfsleven en de overheid. In tegenstelling tot universiteiten zijn hbo-opleidingen primair gericht, naast de overdracht van vaktheoretische kennis, op de ontwikkeling van vaardigheden in nauwe aansluiting op de beroepspraktijk. Hogescholen kunnen zijn onderverdeeld in verschillende organisatorische eenheden, vaak faculteiten genoemd. Binnen een eenh...
 
lol
Why are you oneboxing random strings
 
@Cicada turns out Hack-a-Day love you
@Cicada one box all the things, of course
 
you're depressing
 
@jokoon zero
 
@thecoshman minus one
 
1:18 PM
@thecoshman "Connect a human brain to a cockroach leg". What could possibly go wrong.
 
@jokoon nope, just zero
 
@thecoshman zero point zero one ?
 
^ Very suspicious -- SEVEN "nice answer" badges on same day, May 11
 
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1:20 PM
 
user142019
This isn’t gonna attract any recruiter.
 
@jokoon nope, just zero
 
@WTP'-- Haha! Likes C++! What a faggot.
 
oh, ok, common phenomenon then
 
@Cicada y u so mean :(
 
user142019
1:21 PM
@melak47 because female.
 
chat is acting up for me... must not like classic films
 
@thecoshman zero as in 0 ? in binary or in string ?
 
that time of the month....
 
@jokoon no, zero as in the number of fucks I give
 
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1:21 PM
^ HA!
 
@thecoshman what do you mean ?
 
@WTP'-- this yours?
 
user142019
@thecoshman It’s my Careers profile.
 
@jokoon your problem, I give zero fucks about it
 
user142019
I’m editing it to fit my current life and opinions.
 
1:22 PM
@thecoshman why ?
 
@WTP'-- yeah, if you want a job, you have to love design-patterns
 
user142019
@thecoshman I don’t! :D
 
@jokoon I have no interest in your problems, if I wanted to help people, I would go to some site where people post problems that others can answer... if only such a site existed
 
@thecoshman what problem already ?
 
@jokoon any and all of them
 
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1:25 PM
Stupid flagfags.
 
@WTP'-- did I upset some one?
 
user142019
Oh did you flag?
 
@kbok what's the story with the chat system?
@WTP'-- hell no, but wouldn't be surprised if I upset some bed wetter
 
user142019
Wooo I’ve got an employer view today.
 
@thecoshman It goes up and down like Facebook's market share.
 
1:27 PM
@kbok crap chat system or crap server?
 
@thecoshman Both, actually. I've changed my hosting following advice from a bug and a cat, and I'm writing some scripts to automate the restarting of the app when it crashes
 
@kbok you going for ovh as well?
 
@Cicada ahh
 
 
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@thecoshman kimsufi actually
 
@kbok so yeah, ovh
 
@thecoshman You sure you can't approve people to the group
 
Which is a branch of OVH
 
user1182183
@kbok still need CCV/CCV2
 
1:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus either that or it's trolling me
 
user1182183
@kbok and without the bank security codes you can't calculate them..
 
@Cicada clearly "NSFW", what more would you want?
 
> There's ALWAYS MONEY, IN, THE BANANA STAND.
he he he
 
@thecoshman Try now
 
¬_¬ effort, ok then
 
user1182183
1:31 PM
@TonyTheLion let me star you the song of my people :P
 
user142019
Hey what moron is starring everything.
 
bye nerds
 
@CatPlusPlus ah, that's better
¬_¬ who's the fucking ... oh there's the twat
 
Jerk
 
Either way I'll just give you admin powers.
 
1:34 PM
@CatPlusPlus <evil laugh>
 
Don't break anything
 
@GamErix Not everyone requires it
 
@CatPlusPlus :O I am shocked that you know me that well :P
you do have it backed up right?
 
user1182183
@kbok didn't see any webpage which ships items for real $ which doesn't require it, and 99% they use paypal and paypal requires it.
 
Xeo
The fuck just happened.
 
1:36 PM
@Xeo 'jokoon'
 
Xeo
Star explosion. @_@
 
@GamErix Just because you never saw one doesn't mean they don't exist.
 
user1182183
@kbok name one :P
 
user1182183
imposibruuuu
 
¬_¬ I call for anti-twat mode
 
1:37 PM
@GamErix I don't remember but I saw one crappy russian site doing that or something
 
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Q: Is it safe to expand my partition (unallocated space BEFORE thhe partition)?

Gam ErixI have 13.1 GB of unallocated space before my main partition and guess what: Windows won't allow me to expand to it. I know how most of the stuff works and it's because there are files and important boot files at the beginning of the partition. I am willing to use Easeus Partition Master 9.0.0 S...

 
user1182183
any experts here? :P
 
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@kbok ah ok ; o
 
user1182183
probbly drunk website designers
 
@GamErix well, I wouldn't say expert, but i'll take a peek
 
1:38 PM
@GamErix Amazon
 
@GamErix It's never safe, but you can be pretty confident It'll work
 
user1182183
@CatPlusPlus But we are good people and won't abuse it <lol, the fuck I know everyone WILL abuse it>
 
16
Q: What's the impact of disclosing the front-face of a credit or debit card?

Rory McCuneThere are quite a few cases where people are called out for disclosing the front-face of a credit or debit card (e.g. this tweet from Brian Krebs or this twitter account). So I was wondering what the impact of this disclosure for the card holder is likely to be. From the front of a card, a fraud...

 
user1182183
@kbok ye it works but last time I had some issues with windows because of that ; o
 
Chargeback, cancel card, done.
Especially if it's debit card, which doesn't affect your credit score at all.
 
Partitioning = make backup.
It doesn't get any simpler than this.
 
user1182183
@CatPlusPlus buy me backup drive plox <3
 
user1182183
you know my grandma paid for my laptop...
 
@CatPlusPlus no, but it's harder to get your money back
 
?
You get your money back through chargeback
 
user1182183
1:42 PM
anyway if you purchase something on amazon and use your adress you're pretty fucked, right?
 
@GamErix Yeah, you have to send it to somewhere else and intercept the delivery
 
(Of course, you're a moron for making pictures of your card in the first place)
 
user1182183
@CatPlusPlus yep
 
user1182183
Well anyway debit cards and credit cars are well, america only or can everyone on the world have one?
 
Or you can use the credit card to transfer money to "opaque" locations like buying buttcoins or something
 
1:44 PM
@GamErix lol, seriously? they are fucking world over
@kbok he he he, buttcoins
 
user1182183
@thecoshman ok xD
 
@thecoshman Thanks for noticing :p
 
which reminds me, I need to stop paying for a credit card I don't use :P
 
If you're stupid enough to tweet pictures of your CC, you'll fit well in Buttcoin community.
 
^punny
 
1:46 PM
@DeadMG sup
 
user1182183
was always wondering this: Here in The Netherlands. if you send money from your bank to an account at another bank it goes via a intermediate operator, (called Equens), and all bank transfers, at least most of them, are fee-free, how does Equens earn, is it something like - banks buy there a subscription? :D kinda wondering how bank to bank transfers work.. internet?
 
you were complaining about the navigation on my site
check the new beginning tutorials
I upgraded it a lot
breadcrumbs at top, next/prev at bot
tell me what you think
 
Yeah, it's good.
 
@GamErix no idea, most banks here transfer directly to each other
 
1:48 PM
Maybe also keep the sidebar in the innermost pages, for quick jumping around.
 
@dead the breadcrumbs dance around as you move from page to page
 
user1182183
@thecoshman ye but why I was wondering that always, bank tranfsers aren't 'transferred' in the weekends, they are scheduled for mondays while the banks work on saturdays.. ; o then I googled and found out it goes through a company called "Equens" and they are closed at weekends
 
dance around?
 
@DeadMG shift to the left when you go to a 'deepest' page
@GamErix vOv
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah. Right now I got no sidelinks to put in most of them anyway
so I might do that
 
user1182183
1:50 PM
@thecoshman "vOv" - ?
 
user1182183
is that a new emoticon?
 
@thecoshman I don't actually know wtf is causing that. Maybe the sidebar is moving to make room for the scrollbar
 
@GamErix BACS/CHAPS bank transfers work 'immediately' here, weekends or not.
 
@DeadMG it happens on short pages as well
@MartinJames CHAPS? how dapper
 
1:52 PM
hmm
don't know
the sub-pages don't have any styling
 
Anybody willing to help me out with a few "pointer" issues?

 Fake Programmers

The room for elite Super Users who realize they know nothing a...
 
@GamErix ¯(°_o)/¯
 
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@kbok :p
 
@KronoS You mean, like those guys on stackoverflow.com?
 
@DeadMG ya something like that
 
1:57 PM
you know
 
damn, the whole thing is shifted to the left
WTF is up with that
 
I reinstalled UFO defense yesterday
 
@thecoshman Doesn't happen with short pages for me;.
 
it's older than daknok but it's still an excellent game
 
@KronoS Pointers are bad. Don't use them. Unless you're doing C. Then, switch languages.
 
2:01 PM
@kbok daknok is but a whipper snapper thoguh
@DeadMG hmm... ping me tonight an I will play around with it for a while to see if I can tell you exactly what is up with it
 
@EtiennedeMartel C++... and I have to us this language (not pointers per se)
 
@KronoS Oh dear.
What is it with C++ and crappy teachers?
 
@KronoS o_0
 
@KronoS Aaaah.
 
@EtiennedeMartel well that's probably the start of the probs... never been taught c++...
just trying to push through it :P
 
2:03 PM
Well, then, get yourself a good book, and refrain from using pointers until you really know what you're doing.
 
Why are programming books always so fucking expensive
 
Because it's not a leisure product. You need it, you pay the price.
Nobody in his right mind is going to say "Oh, I don't have fifty bucks to spend on a book about a tech I'm going to use for 1000+ hours"
 
Fair point.
 
Well, some are going to say that, but some are going to say "I don't care, i'll just write everything in shell" anyway
 
@Cicada would you like to be the guy writing that book? Ya I wouldn't either... that's why he can charge whatever he wants
 
2:13 PM
I'll just pirate these >D
Pirate this book! You save 100%
 
user142019
> Like references, attempting to read or write destroyed objects is a giant pile of UB.
 
user142019
hehe
 
user1182183
gz.pxf24.pl/music track 195, does anyone recognize what the title of the song is? Can't find it on internet, it's not "Instrumental 12122 (Nie Producent)"
 
user142019
The actual C++ Standard: “when any token is encountered, the behavior is undefined.”
 
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2:26 PM
And is recursion such a difficult topic for newcomers?
 
user142019
I know I’ve had a lot of trouble with pointers in the beginning, but recursion was feasy.
 
I didn't have a problem with either of them
but it's my understanding that they are harder
 
@DeadMG I like the new next and previous buttons
 
@Collin Only on the "Beginning" tutorials.
the others are still awaiting refactoring
 
user142019
I’d have used Sphinx for generating the site.
 
2:28 PM
you mean "Ugly command-line shit"?
 
user142019
$ sphinx-quickstart
$ make html
 
user142019
That ain’t ugly.
 
indeed it is
 
user142019
Stallman doesn’t shower, he runs $ make clean.
 
user1182183
can't wait till the internet will evolve just enough so designing a web site wouldn't be such a hard pain in the ass
 
user1182183
2:30 PM
Just like designing forms with Visual Studio
 
user142019
@GamErix Just use PDFs and link between them.
 
user1182183
@WTP'-- er... example?
 
user142019
That said, I need a new wobsite myself.
 
user1182183
@WTP'-- wob wob wob wob
 
user142019
@GamErix an example? You’ve never seen a PDF with a hyperlink?
 
2:31 PM
@GamErix It did in the late 90's, then people realized it was the worst idea ever, and stopped doing that
 
I'm happy enough with Bootstrap
 
user1182183
@WTP'-- yes I did but a website in PDF?
 
Wow. Such hate for C. Perverted priest? You guys are so mean. D:
 
user142019
@GamErix It’s possible. Not that it isn’t a terrible idea, but certainly possible.
 
user142019
@ThePhD C is awesome, you C?
 
2:31 PM
That being said, Oh hi there.
@WTP'-- HIGH FIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE
 
user142019
@ThePhD I’m not even in the same room, you fool.
 
user142019
ThePhysicsDude
 
user1182183
@ScottW D is also a programming lang ; P
 
@ScottW I have my reasons, yo.
 
user142019
D is terrible.
 
2:32 PM
D sucks fairly horrifically
 
user142019
D has only two nice features, which are static if and modules.
 
user1182183
@WTP'-- I don't even know how D looks
 
user142019
Besides those, it’s worse than C++.
 
user1182183
7 mins ago, by Gam Erix
http://gz.pxf24.pl/music/ track 195, does anyone recognize what the title of the song is? Can't find it on internet, it's not "Instrumental 12122 (Nie Producent)"
 
user142019
D is worse than Haskell, but that doesn’t mean anything.
 
user1182183
2:34 PM
@ScottW sec, will post a directlink
 
user1182183
no not that
 
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@ScottW done :P
 
@KronoS I once wrote a popular "Pointers" tutorial (it even made its way into Wikipedia as a reference). But it only covers relevant C++ topics. Not C use of pointers to handle arrays, which wouldn't surprise is what you're really after.
 
user1182183
I have no phone with that program for recognizing music and Tunatic won't recognize it
 
user1182183
2:37 PM
@ScottW if I knew I would have found it by myself :D
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Whoa! Thanks! I'll read up on it and see what I can glean from it
 
you're welcome
by the way it's a good idea to download the pdf instead of reading online. e.g. the table of contents isn't shown by google docs.
 
@DeadMG Subtle.
 
user1182183
no one has shazaam? of whatever the music recognition program is called on the samsung galaxy/iphone and other stuff
 
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@ScottW :D
 
2:45 PM
@DeadMG I like how you list TMP in "the basics".
@DeadMG I still think you address pointers (no pun intended) way too early.
 
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@ScottW at least thank you for your effort :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel he has a very warped perception of 'basic'
 
@EtiennedeMartel It is.
@EtiennedeMartel No pointers means no smart pointers.
 
user1182183
@ScottW ^.^
 
@thecoshman I think I would've actually preferred it if someone let me up on the pointer game as early as possible.
 
user1182183
2:47 PM
@ScottW oh thank you, keep me updated haha :D
 
but
I am refactoring them
so if I don't find a need for them in my Standard Library segment which I am currently refactoring, then I might move them
 
@ThePhD oh sure, pointers are something you need to be aware of, but I think to start with. If C++ is your first language though, I would not advise you deal with pointers until you understand standard programming crap
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf It's a 170-page tutorial ?
 
and to be fair, templates are something you need to be aware of early, but to start with, I think learning how to use the STD templates first is much more important.
 
yes, a partial tutorial. as mentioned it only covers some limited subjects. but with input from some pretty good people from the c++ community
including myself ;-)
 
2:50 PM
@thecoshman That's the order it goes in.
I introduce templates briefly, then cover the Standard library in some depth, then move on to TMP.
 
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@ScottW I do, and that’s why “being worse than Haskell” doesn’t mean anything.
 
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Because the opposite is impossible.
 
@DeadMG I really should read through your tuts one day, but I honestly find them far to opinionated in places
 
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@ScottW And hungry!
 
mmm food
 
user142019
2:51 PM
Zoals altijd. :P
 
@thecoshman The front section is kinda like that. Most of the rest isn't
 
user1182183
@ScottW yeah the music I sent you is the "beat" of that track :] Iknow but If he is the author I'm wondering if he doesn't have more such "beats"
 
Also: Fuckin' iTunes
 
user1182183
@ScottW ideone.com/9gfRUQ maybe you'll find something you like
 
user1182183
my playlist
 
2:52 PM
@DeadMG perhaps it is by luck then that most pages I read are
 
@ScottW @GamErix You guys need some more King Crimson in your lives.
 
@thecoshman Well, the ones in Prep need reworking, but if you find any others that are like that, then point them out.
 
@DeadMG will do
 
@DeadMG Ergh, you put your opening brace on the same line as the function?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yep.
it's.. K&R style, I think
 
Xeo
2:54 PM
@EtiennedeMartel And he's not the only one.
 
but it usually depends, I have been known to not do that if the parameter list is long, for example
 
Xeo
Though for me it's depending on what I'm actually declaring.
 
and I usually don't do it in constructors after a member init list
 
@EtiennedeMartel I do that a lot, although when I think about it I like functions to have the new line
 
@EtiennedeMartel where it belongs
 
2:55 PM
Fucking hell, guys, you're all nuts.
 
Xeo
For classes, it's only on a new line if I inherit something
 
Xeo
For normal functions, only if I use trailing return type or overly long parameter lists
 
hm re contributors, i see greg comeau (the comeau c++ compiler), james dennet (moderator comp.std.c++), james kanze (moderator comp.lang.c++.moderated), myself (moderator comp.lang.c++.moderated), Kai-Uwe Bux (now prof. at university of Virginia), plus many others, so many people helped with that
 
@EtiennedeMartel Why wouldn't you? is your screen really that narrow? is indentation really that hard to see?
 
2:56 PM
@Xeo Only if I inherit a lot.
 
@ScottW I prefer their 1980s lineup; especially Discipline and Beat.
 
@GamErix Make a phonoblaster playlist
 
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@EtiennedeMartel if you meand this no thanks..
 
Xeo
and for constructors, well, sometimes it's on the same line as the member initializer (for small lists and if the body is empty), or on a new line after that
 
@GamErix Yeah, that might be a little bit brutal.
 
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2:57 PM
maybeVideoID <- getParam "id"
let videoID = fromJust maybeVideoID
-- can I reduce this to one line?
-- I tried let videoID = fromJust =<< getParam "id"
-- but that obviously doesn’t work.
 
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getParam returns m (Maybe ByteString)
 

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