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10:11 AM
lol
 
user443346
@MehdiB. Damn :d yeah my boss simply don't want us to work at saturday
 
One should work every day
Unhealthy work life balance leads to good, stable products
 
@RaghavSood and alcoholism
 
Dunno, I barely drink
 
user443346
Smoke weed every day
 
10:23 AM
Don't smoke at all
 
Not everyone lives in Netherland @Jordy
 
user443346
Oh :(
 
But smoking weed everyday makes me less productive
 
i should try first and compare it to a normal week before deciding
for science.
tbh hadn't had weed since high school so i don't know lol
^eric rn
 
user443346
@DimaRostopira ill teach ya
 
10:32 AM
@CptEric i mean it works with tvs too
 
T-90m for weekend
 
Hmm
The aluminium body on this keyboard rings when I type
So when I stop typing you can actually hear a faint tuning fork style sound
 
it's lupus.
 
No, Dr. House
 
@Jordy yeah, then I will teach you how to work with hangover xD
 
10:34 AM
yes, Prof. Oak
 
No, it's Man Man
 
user443346
@DimaRostopira But weed doesn't give you a hangover ;(?
 
@Jordy 6 beers does
 
do you make beer out of weed?
because that sounds weird.
but might work
 
hm, sounds interesting
 
user443346
10:35 AM
I don't think 6 beers will give me a hangover
 
user443346
Unless they're litre glasses
 
wow!.
 
You don't weight 55kg, I think
 
closer to 155 probably
 
so far my max is 12 33cl beer cups (aprox 4L) without hangover
 
user443346
10:36 AM
Correct, I'm 184cm around 85kg
 
haven't tried goung further either so i dunno where the crossing point might be.
2-3 cups / hour is a good ratio for an average concert night.
 
@Jordy wow you got some appetite there
 
giants, giants everywhere
 
178 here
 
@DimaRostopira I do
 
10:39 AM
i'm smaller than jordy </3
but tbh dutch people are usually very tall.
 
user443346
Thats what she said
 
user443346
Wait what
 
I'm 184cm and 1mm
 
I'm around 175 methinks
 
fuck i just sneezed
felt like cutting trough my chest with a butter knife
 
10:40 AM
@CptEric it was fun? :D
 
not specially.
not into BDSM.
 
D:
be careful!!
ò.ó
 
unless she is worth it.
jk, not into pain.
 
user443346
kek
 
I CANT TELL MY BODY NOT TO SNEEZE
that has never worked
 
10:42 AM
@CptEric I think I'm the same
 
people in tarragona are very small
felt like a giant this monday
walking and being a head more tall than 80% of the people
 
user443346
@TimCastelijns At this company they buy frikandellen and friet every friday for us
 
I'm going to wrap you in bubble wrap
 
i'll pop myself to death and you know it.
and i'll die of stress if it's the unpoppable one
 
I would love some friet with frikandel right now
doesn't even have to be a frikandel speciaal
 
10:53 AM
2 hours ago, by Mark O'Sullivan
lol this idea https://dev.to/mohanarpit/wwe-entrance-music-579i
^ wanna play "I can't drink so much" on ugly girl entrance
But we don't have ugly girls in office right now
 
a better theme
when people enter the room
 
lmao
Nope, it should be played when I exit office on friday xD
or rocky road to dublin
 
my friday exit song
OOOH rocky road to dublin <3
Dropkick murphys or classic?
 
dropkick
 
raises glass
pings the irish in the room
@MarkO'Sullivan cheers!
 
11:13 AM
HAH, vegans will sure need to feed from air now
found that many forest plants have neurotransmitter-esque defensive system, where a endangered / bitten / broken part of the plant is sending waves of calcium, glutamate and phosphorus to other parts of the plant to be ready for the impact.
at 1mm/sec speed, which is slow for a human but fast for a plant
 
@CptEric rocky road is cool I know they did a version of it for the Euros when Ireland beat Russia and qualified
 
oooh neat
 
11:36 AM
neat
 
3
Q: Android show all email applications in a chooser without composing a new email

stepwise_refinementIn my application I wish to send a server-side authentication email. I'd like to open a chooser that shows every email application available on the device. I can do this with the following lines code: Intent emailIntent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_SENDTO); emailIntent.setData(Uri.parse("mailto...

is this possible in 2018?
 
12:02 PM
o/
@TimCastelijns stackoverflow.com/a/51311194/4070469 perhaps this?
Just saw commonsware answer lol
 
12:35 PM
В'ячеслав Лук'янов requested access. Rep: 1 - Questions: 0 - Answers: 0 (ratio 4:0)
@В'ячеславЛук'янов you currently do not meet the requirements to chat here. You can find our requirements in the rules.
 
Good job Tim, the bot now speaks russian.
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time saved [x] time not saved [ ] god bless zucc
 
For context:
Sep 7 at 22:25, by Mauker
Tim, the bot doesn't speak russian
The bot learned russian in a week
 
lol
 
12:46 PM
let's photoshop one of those russian fur hats onto him
 
hahahaha
 
That was ukrainian, not russian
Russian language doesn't has apostrophe
 
as far as russia is concerned those are the same thing
2
 
Russians can't understand ukrainian, it's tested :D
 
I require food
But I'm all out of food
Well, I suppose I can have cereal
@Mauker This is how it starts
 
12:57 PM
Brazil researchers claim Google Translate is sexist
 
Time to go~~ :3
Cya people!!!!! :D
 
Byeeeeeee
 
Cya wompah!
 
1:14 PM
anyone who has learnt ML here?
 
@Mehdi
 
cool
I just finished my one week ML crash course
so I wanted to do some online mooches
 
cya
 
pramp is good too
and there is a discord where google interviewers hang out
 
1:24 PM
I don't like discord
 
1:51 PM
@RaghavSood yes, sir
ah, just saw the context
@Reno which one did you follow?
@TimCastelijns wow!!!
 
I am allowed :( they shot a plane full of dutchies out of the sky
 
xD
chat needs github comment oneboxing
 
lmao
Laughing at it offends my patriotic feelings, stop it
 
> Is there an issue for the revolution? Can we label it as a blocker?
XDDDD
 
1:59 PM
XD
@DimaRostopira so you're ukranian or belarusian? :D
 
I'm from Ukraine, but I live in Belarus currently
 
ah okay, is the language similar?
 
@MehdiB. well it was like a class room training
so Im looking for suggestions about what to learn next
 
@MehdiB. nope, it's much more similar to polish than russian
 
@Reno if you have enough time to allocate, here's what I suggest in this order: coursera.org/learn/machine-learning (basics and concepts) - udemy.com/machinelearning (it's applied, so more realistic) - (if you feel like learning Tensorflow developers.google.com/machine-learning/crash-course) - fast.ai (deep learning)
@DimaRostopira Gotcha, that's nice to know
 
2:06 PM
isn't polish similar to russian?
 
@TimCastelijns -_-
as similar as dutch and italian, I guess
they both consists of latin letters, right? then, they are similar
 
even my name is different in russian
UA: Дмитро (Dmytro) - RU: Дмитрий (Dmitriy)
 
About the udemy course,. do I have to learn R
im feeling lazy T_T
 
No, you can do the lessons in Python (they're the same)
 
2:13 PM
Andrew Ngs course is math heavy
 
Not really, i had the same impression but was agreeably surprised all the materials were abordable without a refresh
And he always makes small refreshments or when it doesn't really matter he says it's ok to skip the content
 
yes
I will restart it
Did you buy and laptop with a good GPU for deep learning?
 
I used ML to teach my slow gpu how to be fast. Trained it with many images of high end gpus
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That depends on how serious you are about ML. A laptop is good for learning, but not practical for other things
lmao tim
 
Eat your heart out, CNN! https://t.co/IN8MoN1NCf
 
2:21 PM
as surprising as it seems, these are free GPUs (for now)
 
> Do comment if down voting... 😊
oh boy
 
Do research if asking
Or similar.
 
and duped :D
 
so youre supposed to write code to download the dataset, unpack it and train?
 
2:25 PM
correct
 
lol he duped to his own answer
 
thanks I will try it out .. my laptop cannot handle anything
 
you'll only need a GPU for deep learning
 
if you're doing normal ML your laptop can handle it easily
 
2:27 PM
im going to try conv nets to train on my cat pic collection
output : cuteness
 
2:41 PM
That was easy, I implemented it, here are the results
 
you filthy bot tricker
 
lol
 
@TimCastelijns 😂😂😂
 
user image
5
 
3:07 PM
wise words reno
I live by them
 
@Reno ARRRGHH I had sound enabled xD
 
Hmm
Anyone know why the shell won't tab complete npm installed global modules?
But still run them if you enter the full name
And show the correct path for which module_name
 
It
is
friday
 
Not for me
 
Did we forget the tradition?
 
3:21 PM
It's Saturday here
 
ah
 
Hmmm
Maybe I should write a keyboard LED backlight controller in rust for my first actual project
Seems like a good candidate
 
user443346
call it the Raghav Chroma v2
 
Too long
 
user443346
Yeah, Pro Android Augmented Reality is much shorter
 
3:35 PM
That's not a command line tool, tho
 
user443346
curl cat.thatlinuxbox.com
 
user443346
do it.
 
user443346
heard r15 liked cats
 
> **********************************************************
>
> IM IN YUR COMPUTERZ...
>
> .__....._ _.....__,
> .": o :': ;': o :".
> `. `-' .'. .'. `-' .'
> `---' `---'
>
> _...----... ... ... ...----..._
> .-'__..-""'---- `. `"` .' ----'""-..__`-.
> '.-' _.--"""' `-._.-' '"""--._ `-.`
> ' .-"' : `"-. `
Lmao
 
I read koin as "kotlin"
kinda like that "Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy..." chain letter
 
@JMRboosties your weekly emails got screwed up and now the "name" on each email is listed as [domain]@MISSING_DOMAIN
good morning everyone
 
Morning oh ancient one
 
OMG @Ahmad new Orbital
oh man this is great
what a great 739th birthday present
10
 
Its your birthday?
How can you even be sure after all the calendar system and orbit changes?
 
4:02 PM
actual birthday is Monday
 
lol
 
@Mauker nice.
!Remindme 1h upgrade koin
 
Ok, I will remind you at 17:07 on 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 
omg loving this album
 
4:21 PM
posted on September 14, 2018 by Lingfeng Yang

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oral presentation: done
most probably getting an A+ for that project :)
 
4:39 PM
Well done nerd
 
4:50 PM
How complicated is it to associate a "User Data Privacy Disclosure" ?
 
A's don't get lays
 
tim XD
 
no idea what you mean by that question
 
that thing, when publishing an app on Play Store
 
oh
looks pretty easy, just paste the url in :)
 
5:02 PM
but what url? Is there a generator that allows me to check certain things and then it creates a URL for me to link to?
 
That's what your lawyer is for
 
you can copy some generic privacy policy and add it to your website
assuming you don't really need any protection from your users
 
Yeah, in a real world scenario you would pester Mehdi until he builds a static analyzer using ML that can look at your apk and determine the privacy policy you need
But for now, just copy and paste
Or skip it
 
XD
 
@TimCastelijns Here is your reminder
 
5:09 PM
??? the sky is blue! How does that relate to the question? references !!!!!= literal; comparison speed !!!!!= memory access speed ( !!!!= meaning VERY different [:-) ) — Carlos Heuberger 2 hours ago
wow this guy :D
 
Nice question, though
Not the type of stuff most people think about
 
yeah, he !!!!!= most people
 
he's got 40 !!!!!= years of experience?
 
you might even call him a mad man
 
absolute unit :D
 
5:26 PM
lol eski
 
o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
so if I provide OAuth 2 authentication, I am basically REQUIRED to provide a Data Privacy Policy?
 
Do you collect user data?
 
5:34 PM
it'd depend on the definition of User Data, I guess?
users can post an Alert, so we do have to keep in the DB the User ID associated with an alert, for example
but we do not keep any information such as email or name
but again, since we use Firebase Authentication, I guess one could argue that the app's Firebase Console does have access to the email of a user
but the whole point of the app using Oauth 2 was specifically to avoid treating that kind of data in our DB
also, when I click the "Screenshot" icon, where is the image saved?
 
Just write something up explaining exactly what you collect and how it's used.
Here's a good example: plainlanguage.gov/privacy
 
"I only sell your personal information to the highest bidder, so don't worry about it"
 
just keylogging your banking passwords..nbd
 
@eski but from my understanding, someone could eventually want to mess with me and sue me because I didn't properly write a legal document?
that's kind of freacking me out...
 
tbh you usually care about it when you have a lot of users and become a potential cash cow
before reaching that cap, I wouldn't worry about legal stuff
 
5:44 PM
but theoretically speaking, a single malicious user could decide to screw me up, legally speaking, no ?
 
yes
 
I don't think it's that hard to write one
 
it's a legal document...
 
just copy past a template and change the name of the entity...
 
5:48 PM
 
:D
 
in practice as an individual doing almost nothing with personal information and limited assets I don't think anyones going to sue you, it would cost a lot of money and it would be difficult to prove any damages
but generate a free privacy policy to cover your bases
the thing about privacy policies / terms of use agreements they aren't really binding contracts, they can't take away your rights, but they can release you from liability by disclosing legal practices
But it doesn't mean someone can sue you for no reason if you don't do anything to hurt them, just because you don't have a privacy policy
 
My concern is more like, say I forget that this tiny little piece of useless information is SOMEHOW stored in our DB (or that I didn't know I had to declare it as being saved), and then someone somehow realizes that, reads my privacy policy, and realizes that I didn't disclose it.
Isn't that a solid enough ground for a legal pursuit?
 
bro, you have a small db, you can't forget you're storing X and Y
 
5:53 PM
They'd need to prove harm and damages
 
just check the schema of the database :D
 
Just storing the information isn't enough to be something you owe them money for
you'd need to do something with that information that violated their personal rights in some way or caused them harm
a generated privacy policy should be enough to protect you even in the worst case scenario, if all you're doing is storing emails
 
how would you know if the position of a posted alert isn't considering "information about a user" if, somehow, a strang 25 chars string (the UID) identifies this person as being the source of that alert. One could argue that this isn't personnal information.
But then someone could end up having his girlfriend find out that him posting that alert at that precise time at the precise location basically is evidence of him cheating on her with a person (interlacing information from other real-life information to draw conclusions).
 
If it was medical data, SSNs then you'd want be more careful
 
it seems like there are many things that could be "personnal data" without looking like it could represent a threat in the first place
 
5:56 PM
email addresses are PII so make sure to comply to the GDPR if you have EU users
 
If you keep that data private, it's not being disclosed to anyone
so it can't harm them in that scenario
 
@TimCastelijns my application is designed almost exclusively for Quebecers, but how am I to know that a EU user, for no reason, is using my app ?
 
if you don't know, you have to assume there are
 
also, my own personal DB isn't storing emails, but the Firebase DB is indeed storing it for the OAuth 2 purposes.
 
the EU isn't going to extradite you to sue you in Canada, it's expensive.
just generate the freeprivacypolicy and use that
it's gonna be fine
 
5:57 PM
Thus, in itself, it's a Google Service I've subscribed the app to that is storing that information. Does that mean that my app in itself is storing this data?
 
@DaveS I think his question is that his app actually publicly displays the locations of users at point A, to the other users
 
probably not payne, but I'm no expert
 
@MehdiB. it doesn't specifically do that, but a smart and crafty user might be able to figure out, through cross-information checking, that another user was there at that time
 
@payne what is the scope of your oAuth? what do you request? "basic profile info" / email etc..
 
Yes but you're getting this data from a public source
 
5:59 PM
we, on our own DB, don't store anything more than the UID of the user
 
you're not collecting/generating it
 
the Firebase Console linked to the app stores the Email
 
it's already available to the public so it's not like you're violating anyone's rights
No one can violate my privacy by viewing these public transcripts I chose to engage with
 
first question, for example: it's FIREBASE that's taking in the email adresses, but I do have access to that info through accessing the Firebase Console..
so are WE collecting that information since we have access to it?
 
I'd assume so, but I'm not a lawyer
 
6:01 PM
Yes, I'd say you have access to their email so click it
go more conservative just in case
 
and vote right
 
!cf[2]
 
:D
 
thanks for your help, everyone
time to go to the dentist
 
Hello, Android!
 
6:10 PM
o/ CA!
 
@payne yes any data collected by any service in app , means its done by app itself
Hella CA
 
o/
 
6:25 PM
 
lol
 
@CarlAnderson omg so good :)
@MehdiB. I have literally 0 meetings every week
life is gr8
only standups
and we only have in person standups 3 times a week
2 times a week we just use a slack bot
 
Nice! which company?
 
yelp
 
👍👍👍
 
6:40 PM
nice
 
the trick is not to be on a feature team
I do infrastructure eng
 
so what do you wanna do after your graduation? infra?
 
probably
no more pixel pushing for me
currently working on distributed, parallelized test infrastructure
a lot more mentally challenging and interesting
 
so you're deploying Docker
 
pretty much
which makes me happy
 
6:45 PM
well since you don't do Android anymore guess we can ditch you
8
 
m8
 
!cf[4]
 
true
lmao
 
!cf[0]
 
🖕🏻
Unknown command '!!cf[1]'
sigh
 
6:51 PM
Good luck, Ahmad!
 
and good luck people who offer to meet ahmad
5
 
😂😂😂
 
lmao dave
 
wow
 
@Ahmad you got a real job? So promoted from Senior Chief Intern?
 
6:56 PM
i'm an intern
always
 
It's so he doesn't have any expectations to meet
 
ahmad doesn't go to meetings because he cancels them
 
lol
 

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