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12:13 AM
and not a school/tutorial site
 
1:06 AM
a very bad one too
 
 
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2:22 AM
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Q: Let's [convert] this to a better tag

EJoshuaSThe convert tag currently has no tag wiki and 739 questions. It looks like it was burninated previously (back in 2012) but has since reappeared. There was also another question back in March discussing whether this tag was useful or not, but not formally requesting its removal. (The question als...

 
 
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4:41 AM
Anyone know what's next for the burnination? Seems like most of the bad questions are closed.
 
@EJoshuaS once all questions are closed or re tagged..Mod Flag the burnination request meta post for the next step.. check meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/324070/… step 4
:38756306 I think so.. Thats what happened with apple and freecodecamp burnination.. Once only the closed question remains flag a mod
 
@suraj Are we retagging manually?
 
@EJoshuaS I think so.. Thats what happened with apple and freecodecamp burnination.. Once only the closed question remains flag a mod
 
@suraj Do we have to get it to the point that all of the remaining questions will Roomba? There are some closed questions with positive scores and/or accepted answers that won't - should we just retag those? (Assuming, of course, that they're worthy of their positive scores, but that's obviously for the individual to decide since we don't ask for downvotes here).
 
5:00 AM
@EJoshuaS am not sure on that.. maybe wait for some one more knowledgable on that
 
@PetterFriberg Just so you guys know, we normally get notified about a large number of rude/abusive comments, but when the question gets deleted, that flag gets automatically validated. So...in this case, overzealous delete votes can actually be counter-productive because it means a moderator is unlikely to see the problem.
@PetterFriberg I think you mean this comment?
 
Isn't it better to nuke the question than to nuke the comments and leave the question alive?
 
@JohnDvorak Not sure about that. Better to get the question closed and the comments deleted, but I don't see what the benefit is in deleting the question.
 
Deleting the question prevents new comments as well as gets rid of the old ones
 
I guess that's a fair point.
@AjayBrahmakshatriya "Need help!" and "Nothing seems to be working!" are red flags there... doesn't look like a good fit for Code Review.
 
5:09 AM
What is Saduco?
 
@JohnDvorak check the suggested edit.. It is probably sudoku game
 
A broken version of Sudoku, of course.
 
Oh.
Maybe it's a crossover between Sudoku and Nabucco?
 
@CodyGray Oh! My bad. I misread it as working but needed to be restructured. Can some one remove my request from here?
 
@JohnDvorak actually had to look that up
 
5:14 AM
I removed the auto-comment from the question. Not sure if it's off-topic or not. It could be okay, but it's not a good question, since they didn't say what they tried and what went wrong, so that's still a valid close reason.
I intimidated him into deleting the question. :-(
 
@CodyGray got scared of a floating pair of glasses
 
Is that a bad thing?
 
Well, I don't mean to be that intimidating.
 
Oh.
 
@CodyGray while you are here .. any thoughts on this chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/38756347#38756347 ?
 
5:24 AM
@suraj What is that in reference to?
 
ninja'd
 
Oh. Yeah, I'd prefer to just get a CM to delete the tag once the clean-up has been handled. If the questions are otherwise on-topic and have another relevant tag, then that's good enough.
I mean, if there's only a small handful, then I guess there's no need to bother the CMs and you guys can just do it yourself. But if we're talking more than 10 or 20, then better to bring out the big guns. No point in all the busy work, and no point in the massive disruption.
 
Well, that's the theory. But CMs don't seem very interested in burnination requests posted on meta.
 
No, that's true. And it's historically been a big complaint of mine that no one with the relevant privileges ever paid enough attention to tags, leaving it to the community to handle everything with completely inadequate tools. But if you get it to a point where the tag just needs to be deleted, a mod should be able to bother one of the CMs enough to do it.
I'm going to try and stay more on top of synonyms and merges, because moderators can do that themselves, without the community having to go out and do mass retags. Only problem there is that I have to wait for some semblance of community consensus for tech I don't know anything about, and that can be hard to come by. Meta gets so many questions, and retag requests are not especially interesting.
If only more people actually knew about this. Well, that and it wasn't deliberately hobbled by limiting it to people with a score of 5 in that tag.
 
5:45 AM
can someone reject an edit here It would simply add to reopen queue
 
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis think there is a dupe for that
 
ah dang, I could've hammered
 
6:32 AM
Hey, since when can we vote to delete answers?
 
since 20k rep
 
Sometimes I doing "last" VTC on certain Q indicates 4 votes & a message pops "this question is already closed...", am I doing it late for milliseconds or accidentally requesting it twice?
 
@Shadow deleted
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto If your name appears in the close list then you are doing it twice.
 
6:39 AM
Hey, that's cool. Some useful privileges. I should have read about it. Thanks
 
@suraj ty
 
\o
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto just reload the page. If your name is on the list, you are doing it twice. otherwise you're late
 
Morning o/
 
6:48 AM
3 questions on JavaScript in just 2 mins without mcve
 
@Redo dont think this actually has anything to do with js or programming..
 
@suraj actually I didn't even read it completely. hmm yeah it is not related to JS
@JarrodRoberson I'll say it's not broad but opinion based
 
Morning \o
 
o/
 
morning o/
 
6:54 AM
3AM time for bed
 
is this on topic or isn't it too broad? stackoverflow.com/q/45790964/2427065
 
dupe
 
ok fine
 
of what it was closed of as
 
had to reload to see the dupe target. But did already
 
7:10 AM
@Redo Please do not leave "please don't spam" comments on spam posts. Spam doesn't need a comment at all. A spam flag is sufficient.
 
@CodyGray I didn't do that always. occasionally I am doing so as a reminder to the poster.
 
Spammers don't need "reminders". They know what they're doing.
2
 
ok fine
 
@Redo Comments like that are usually to correct some unintentional behavior. These people are here to spam, so those comments aren't even worth the data costs to you :)
 
hmm I tend to agree with both of you
 
7:23 AM
^ weird both got upvoted.. even though answer is wrong..
 
Hi Hi!
 
7:41 AM
Hey people
The smell of lots of unreversed serial voters in the morning
 
@Magisch serial voters? Is that a thing?
 
@DragandDrop Don't bother
 
@Redo :p
 
7:45 AM
@DragandDrop leave it. editing will push to ROQ
 
8:05 AM
@MadaraUchiha I hope y'all can forgive me for the 30+ custom modflags that'll be coming soon
 
@Magisch We were just getting back to Queue Zero!
 
@CodyGray Not my fault that there's so many serial voters in one week
I hope shog will forgive me too :D
 
@SardarUsama done & closed
 
thanks
 
8:31 AM
I think I've figured out more or less the formula for the serial voting reversal script
 
9:27 AM
@CodyGray Yes thanks (not sure why I taguht it was an answer). That comment made me reflect since I lately had decided that VLQ and NAA is the same. If NAA it's VLQ and if VLQ it's NAA), what flag to raise I determine if OP can edit into shape (link only answers ecc) --> VLQ, if not NAA (hence considering only how the flag works).
 
@PetterFriberg I think they're basically the same, too. The system handles them the same way---they go into the same review queue---and moderators review them as if they're the same, as far as I know. It doesn't do any good to raise flags based on what the OP could do. Posts have to be flagged based on what we see.
 
Your comment indicates that there are what seems to be answers but they are so low quality that people (>2K) with domain knowledge should delete'em, it's probably hard to find example of these "VLQ" answer, maybe something like this stackoverflow.com/questions/42476841/…
 
That looks like NAA to me. It's a "me too".
 
> We faced the same issue so in the start of test we get few such warnings but after that it started working as expected
 
That isn't useful to anybody. "Mine was broke too, then it worked"
The key part would be why it started working. If you don't know, it's not an answer.
 
9:30 AM
yeah or saying don't worry about the warnings...
I would be a bit wary flagging NAA but would love to flag VLQ.
anyway with that you comment you confused me some, since we can have what looks as answer but they are not if you have domain knowledge.
 
For what it's worth, I agree 100% that NAA and VLQ should be combined into something like "unsalvageable" or "needs to be deleted".
All I was trying to say in that comment is, I think more 20k+ users should be using their delete votes in edge cases.
There are things I, as a moderator, would decline NAA/VLQ for, but that I as a 20k+ user would vote to delete.
 
ok, the thing is that we a 2K users in that queue as well, I guess the status quo remains VLQ and NAA same thing, don't flag what is an answer even if really bad. You need to show some how that it is not an answer.
 
Yeah, I guess having 2k users in that review queue is the fatal flaw.
But this the reason why they added the delay in showing VLQ/NAA to moderators, to give the community a chance to handle it first before a moderator has to make a decision.
We have to err on the side of nonsense like does it attempt to be an answer. The community can judge answers on their technical merits when voting to delete.
 
ok, thanks for input
 
I probably just made a mortal enemy out of shog
I heaped 35 reversals on his to do list :D
 
9:52 AM
@Magisch they can do it in just one click. FYI
 
user2371524
This seems really off-topic to me, but for what reason? stackoverflow.com/questions/45793386/…
 
@FelixPalmen I can't find a close reason, I would just judge research effort.
 
@Magisch Shog is way too lazy to do any of that. The rest of us mods, though... *shakes fist*
 
it's not off topic. he's asking whther that uses microsecond or second
but since it's a 2 line question without proper googling, you can CV as broad or unclear
 
Ron
o/
 
10:00 AM
\o
 
\o
 
user2371524
@PetterFriberg I'll leave it alone, but still thinking it's not even programming related.
 
@Redo hmm that seems like a large simplification, "proper googling" --> voting. To be too broad it has to fit that close reason, maybe unclear?, but still that stuff will probably just roomba in 33 days no real need to close.
 
10:03 AM
it's closed as unclear
 
yeah that's a better reason since variaible is called "Microsecond" we state are you really asking what we think you are or is your question just unclear?
anyway I would not close vote just because of bad research (simple question), lets use up and down votes for that
 
10:28 AM
@Redo The ISO unit of time is the second, so how the interval unit is described may depend on your audience?
 
@CodyGray I think only CMs can do reversals, no?
I assume you mods are just escalating all my flags when marking them as helpful
 
Moderators process them and escalate to CMs, yes.
But somebody has to make sure you ain't crazy!
 
@YvetteColomb are you sure?
 
user3956566
@Redo yep I'm an android programmer
 
@CodyGray In probably about a hundred serial voting flags I've never had one declined, so I'm probably safe
I'm good at pattern recognition
 
user3956566
10:33 AM
@CodyGray hello!!!!! the anti chatter himself appears :) I see you're doing a great job as mod
 
@YvetteColomb Thanks you. Not sure how you can tell, but I'll take whatever praise I can get! :-)
 
user3956566
@CodyGray well we've noticed you nuking a lot of bad posts - which is awesome and another mod told us that the mod flag queue was 0 :)
 
Yeah. Big fan of the kill switch.
 
user3956566
I love it - that's one of the reasons I want to be mod when I grow up
 
@YvetteColomb arent you like 50
 
user3956566
10:42 AM
@Magisch yep - lol it's a joke
 
Ron
Manners please.
 
One of the reasons I care so much about declined flags is that I almost never get any
 
@YvetteColomb hmm naughty girl :D you are not allowed to post that request, you have answered that.
 
So when I get one either I'm missing something spectacularly or a mod is
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg oh sorry! it was upvoted - which brought it to my attention
 
user3956566
10:42 AM
it was closed before I had votes privileges
 
user3956566
@Ron manners?
 
user3956566
@Magisch people make mistakes - both flaggers and mods
 
50 is good, I'm like 102.5
 
Ron
@YvetteColomb One does not ask for ones age, especially when it comes to ladies.
 
@YvetteColomb I'm just being a bit mean, but yeah we need to keep our own stuff out of SOCVR
 
10:43 AM
OH! Age!
 
@YvetteColomb Sure but I want to learn from every mistake
 
user3956566
@Ron thanks Ron, but I don't mind I go way back with many people in this room and I don't hide my age :)
 
So if it was my problem I want to know what to do differently next time. Usually.
 
Ron
That being said I am pushing 40 and desperately need that Ferrari.
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg no - you're completely right - I didn't think of the conflict of interest - in all honesty - that wasn't my intention
 
user3956566
10:44 AM
@MartinJames you look really good for 102.5 or is that a radio station?
 
Ron
Haha.
 
I neee to stay off the pizza and beer for a bit:( More dog walking would help.
 
user3956566
@Magisch of course - nothing wrong with asking people for feedback - I do it all the time. Only way we can improve is to see where we go wrong and learn from our mistakes
 
@YvetteColomb it's strange conflict of interest also, since you are actually asking us to let other people answer it also :D
 
user3956566
@MartinJames I want to go horse riding regularly for the same reason
 
10:46 AM
but anyway that's how we roll
 
When 98-99/100 of your flags aren't declined you kind of want to know why for the 1-2 that are
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg well - I don't mind if other people answer it lol - it's from 2015.
 
@YvetteColomb I would not torture a horse with my mass. Maybe a Clydesdale.
 
@MartinJames For me it's the opposite, I have to start eating more :p
 
@Thaillie I hate you! :)
 
user3956566
10:47 AM
@Magisch you should talk to @JAL and I on declined flags - we have a perverse competition on who has the most declined flags - not because we're proud - we're just trying to smile in the face of adversity LOL
 
user3956566
@MartinJames oh yeh - you need different size horses for different weighted peoples. I'm not that heavy. I could do with losing a few kilos. But it's more for my fitness and muscles. I have a muscle wasting illness and among many other things - horse riding is a good fit for me
 
user3956566
@Thaillie same as both my sons!
 
@YvetteColomb I hope they eat more than I do, I only eat dinner :p
 
user3956566
@Thaillie my 27 yo son is like that. Why don't you eat other meals?
 
@YvetteColomb Across the entire network and ~6000 helpful flags I have a helpful rate of 99,54%. Means roughly 1 in 200 of my flags is declined.
 
user3956566
10:53 AM
@Magisch what's the app you used to get those stats?
 
It's a userscript
 
user3956566
@Magisch ah cool - thnx
 
user3956566
oh I have installed it
 
user3956566
already
 
user3956566
lol
 
10:54 AM
@YvetteColomb Mostly because I am never hungry :p
 
user3956566
I thought it sounded familiar
 
user3956566
@Thaillie that's what my son says and I tell him he needs to force himself to eat breakfast and get into that routine - I say the same thing to you :)
 
@YvetteColomb As long as I stay above 55kg I will keep the same routine, the moment I go below that weight I will change my routine :)
 
user3956566
@Thaillie how tall are you and how old?
 
@YvetteColomb About 1,80m and 19
 
user3956566
11:00 AM
wow - you're skinny - my 23 yo son is 184 cm and 66 kg and the other is 61 cm and 179cm
 
user3956566
so you'd fit in well with them
 
grumble youngsters grumble
 
user3956566
yep struggle to put on weight when they're young - struggle to keep it off when they're old
 
@YvetteColomb 61 cm. His BMI must be off the charts!
 
Mind you - I don't mind too much - I stopped counting age at 3 puppy years
@Ajay Don't mind Yvette... units of length and weight - easily mixed up :p
Useful... will have to bear that post in mind if I'm ever shopping for a fridge in India
 
11:06 AM
@JonClements specially when you go to Hyderabad.
 
What was the question?
 
Indeed
@Ajay how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood...?
(it's probably not that though...)
 
you could propose a new SE site, for useful spam post, we migrate'em directly and when you are in Hyderabad looking for a fridge you can just search SE or pass a quick question.
 
TIL it's actually spelled that way
 
@PetterFriberg that city seems to be spam-city here on SO. (Then again, most of my Indian topography came from SO spam)
 
11:10 AM
I was in Hyderabad for like 4 years! Seems like a missed opportunity sigh
 
> Our Fridge Repair in Hyderabad tech guys can knock your door that too during your customizable timings.
hmm what the hecks are they actually saying? "customizable timings."
 
user3956566
@AjayBrahmakshatriya lolololol
 
user3956566
@JonClements you know - it's the whole age - ......
 
user3956566
@Lundin did you have to interrupt all the offtopic conversation with ontopic material? :D
 
I just logged in now and there's a discussion about fridge repairs in Hyderabad... umm.
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Ron
11:17 AM
Might come in handy one day. One never knows.
 
Regarding the cv-pls link can we please also delete it. Apart from being opinion-based and tool recommendations, the answers are trash.
 
@Lundin 2009 post ?
 
Yes but it is awful and needs to go...
 
@Lundin As a penance for starting the 'gravitationally challenged' thread, I cv'd that, though a suitable comment might have been good too, eg: 'doesn't matter which compiler you use, with 8051 you will not have enough RAM'.
 
@Lundin Favorite it and when you can delete pass
 
11:18 AM
Trust me it really has no value even to those who do program C for 8051.
 
it's just a set of links to different compilers, I'm all in to delete that
 
user3956566
@Lundin and you so rudely interrupted it with ontopic business :D I think I'm so hilarious
 
@YvetteColomb Sorry, I should have phrased it. "Can we put this in the freezer"
 
user3956566
@Lundin lolol you play so well
 
11:22 AM
Freezer? I hardly know'er.
 
Combine the on/off topics: the 8051 is anorexic.
 
Btw horse pictures are off-topic. Unicorn pictures are fine.
 
user3956566
@Magisch I have 11177 98.27% (helpful) flags across the network
 
and possibly unclear
 
Could that be be spam? Wth is eb3atli.com?
 
11:25 AM
@Fred-ii- Sounds like a strange way of advertising the website
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya yeah, I kind of thought that also
 
@Lundin maybe, but just delete vote it
 
@PetterFriberg mine's already cast
 
@Lundin this website to check the final price for items on amazon or any other website and ship it to Jordan and KSA ;)
 
the problem is always presuming good faith
 
11:29 AM
RIP
 
@PetterFriberg please consider reporting to SmokeDetector for archiving before deleting, thanks
 
Morning
 
@tripleee I was not sure if really spam, I was presuming good faith on that one, hence I preferred it to be deleted by 20K
\o Nathan
 
fair enough though having it archived would perhaps still be valuable
 
metasmoke had no indication that the site was being spammed on SE metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…
 
11:50 AM
@PetterFriberg indeed, but if they come back having this incident on record would be at least vaguely helpful
 
@tripleee Yeah but I can't report stuff that I'm not sure is spam, can I?
 
@PetterFriberg it's tricky. reporting stuff tends to summon the herd to try to quickly flag stuff and if you'd like to avoid the hassle, maybe it's the safest to not report
but getting false positives into the archive is actually useful for making sure our rules do not overfit
 
maybe you should consider a new type of report?, that only report as "possibile spam" but not sure if flag worthy.
an SD seems fishy command
 
@PetterFriberg an sd t (for tuna)?
 
Umm... "summon the herd" - not a phrase one hears often...
 
11:57 AM
:P, let's hope the fish will be back soon, I'm missing the smell
 
Hmm.. I have some lettuce that needs using up. I'll do a tuna salad.
 
I'd rather tuna radio
 
"fridge repairs in Hyderabda, summoning herds and hoping the fish will be back soon" - normal everyday conversation for SOCVR I guess...
 
How did the '8051 compiler' q. get 13 upvotes? Can't delete it:(
 
12:01 PM
Yep. Welcome to another day at SOCVR, grab a tinfoil hat and have some fun ;)
@MartinJames link?
 
Uhh. it oneboxed:(
 
@MartinJames if you add text before or after the link it un-oneboxes it
 
@MartinJames its an old question probably got upvoted long back
 
@MartinJames don't onebox.
 
@Redo It wasn't intentional..
 
12:04 PM
@MartinJames I see. We can delete this in 2 days.
 
@MartinJames it's asked in 2k09. most of the questions asked in that time got many upvotes
 
@Redo Orite.. I should have noticed that.
@NathanOliver Noted..:)
 
user2371524
12:20 PM
quick meta q: Is this "mission statement" in this question enough for a tag? I won't remove it twice unless I'm sure others think the same...
 
@MartinJames no issues. There're lots of stuff like this exist
 
@FelixPalmen Simple Solution: Close the Q
 
got an answer today
 
12:44 PM
wait
 
morning!
 
o/
 
evening
 
That was interesting. After Nathan cleaned the queue, I can see more questions. Possible userscript bug
 
1:07 PM
The queue doesn't contain HTC questions for me; is someone seeding?
 
Been trying but it's been hard to keep up. Am impressed we have more people using that script now
 
> Welcome to StackOverflow! We only use English, code and sarcasm as a mode of communication here
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@Machavity In our queue or the CV queue?
 
@rene COMMA, PLEASE
, code, and sarcasm!!
 
@gunr2171 is that required in English? You're already using and
 
1:11 PM
@NathanOliver Magic Tag. Either that or we just have a ton of people randomly clicking through HTC and CVing
 
@gunr2171 He didn't say we used oxford commas
 
@Adriaan Oxford comma. It's a very large debate in English on if you should use it.
 
@Machavity Oh, IDK about that. user scripts are magic to me ;)
 
@gunr2171 rene might have come from Crete. Probably doesn't know any better
 
@Adriaan Well, turns out that comma can make a difference: nytimes.com/2017/03/16/opinion/for-want-of-a-comma.html?mcubz=0
 
1:13 PM
So the maximum point for the ellipse today happens during...yep, you guessed it...
 
My, advice: Use, commas, all, the, time, just, in, case.
 
@NathanOliver muh, US legislation. Of no concern to me :p
 
Hey
I posted a FR on Meta.SE
 
Ho
let's go
 
About SEDE and voting timings
 
1:14 PM
@Adriaan Not directly but you guys should have the same ambiguity clause.
 
@gunr2171 during a meeting about Oxford commas?
 
@NathanOliver no idea, I'm no lawyer. One important difference between your juridical system and ours though is that here you are supposed to have common sense. Cases like buying a McDonald's coffee, setting it on your dashboard, driving off and getting burned will be thrown out here as "general stupidity", whereas in the US it costs McDonald's a lot of money and suddenly all cardboard cups have "CAUTION: HOT LIQUID" printed on them
 
@Adriaan I take it that message you sent 4 days ago (which I only got informed about today) doesn't matter anymore? :p
 
@Machavity :P Interviewing a candidate
 
@gunr2171 It's cloudy here so we might not even get to see it :(
 
1:17 PM
@JonClements well then, who lets their nephew play on their steam account... I'm still bummed about it, would like your opinion on the matter, though I don't think it'll change a bit
 
@Adriaan The hot coffee case gets a bad rap for no reason
 
School holidays - he has time to play games and it keeps him mostly quiet :)
 
@Adriaan While I see your point in general, that's the McDonald's-lawyers' version of the story. It's been debunked (or clarified) in all sorts of places, but most entertainingly here: youtube.com/watch?v=KNWh6Kw3ejQ
 
They'd been overheating their coffee severely despite regulatory orders not to and the lady got 3rd degree burns and spent weeks in the ICU and had to get skin grafts
You can bet your behind if they heated their coffee to 90° when serving here they'd get a ginormous fine from a regulatory agency too.
 
1:20 PM
@Adriaan There was more to it then just that. IIRC the coffee they served was just under the boiling point when coffee should be like 74C not ~100C
 
@NathanOliver And they'd had a regulatory agency tell them to cut it before
And they kept going against the orders with overheating their coffee
 
Sounds like a case where a burglar that broke into someone's garage manage to get trapped while the folks were on holiday and had to spend a week there with nothing but fizzy drinks... he sued the owners for mental anguish and got a small payout...
 
@Adriaan Ironically the details of that case were misrepresented. Apparently McDonald's policy was to serve the coffee at an unsafe temp
 
@JonClements that's... stupid loopholes.
 
McDonalds spent big on a publicity campaign to influence the case too
 
1:22 PM
@Magisch My dad used to order a cup of coffee and a cup of ice so he could cool the coffee down.
 
@JonClements It's not actually legal to lay death traps for invaders on purpose here
 
@JonClements or the case where a mother and daughter (14yo or something) crossed someone else's lawn to take a short-cut to their house. The owner of the lawn was standing naked in his kitchen (no idea why) and got sued for being naked in front of minors...
 
@Adriaan Now that's ridiculous
 
Well, they do have these things called blinds
 
I have no idea how the case worked out
 
1:23 PM
@Adriaan Just had a look - I don't have an opinion either way. Certainly not enough to chip-in with you know who :)
 
That's on the same level of BS as the guy who got put on the sex offender list for life because he peed on a sidewalk
 
@NathanOliver but if I live in a manor house, surrounded by naught but my own woods, why would I put down the blinds if I wake up and want a coffee?
 
@Magisch Well no... that's understandable but if someone breaks into your house, injures themselves trying to steal your stuff, you don't generally expect them trying to sue you for their injuries to succeed :p
 
@JonClements alright, thanks. I was just bummed because it reads the same as the pinned one here, including comment from Cody along the same vague lines, and that went through flying, whereas this one is shot down without any reasoning why (IMO)
 
@JonClements Yeah no. "I was comitting theft and then slipped and fell" would mean the guy gets convicted for theft here
 
1:24 PM
@Magisch There's a woman who is on the sex offender list for texting a picture of herself to her then-BF. Somehow she was both the perpetrator AND the victim
 
But there are some mental people who lay death traps for trespassers
That's murder
@Machavity There's also a couple on there for life because they were sexting - at 17
Administrative BS like this is why we don't have a list in germany
 
@Magisch same here. We did have an interesting case here a few years ago, about a father and a son who attacked a burglar in their own home. Burglar got seriously injured, sued father and son for damages. Politics are still debating what to do with those cases. Note that they didn't build an on-purpose burglar killing machine or something, just walked down the stairs and beat the burglar when he attacked them trying to get out
 
@Adriaan Imo if you break into someone's home and then attack them and then get beat up that's your problem
self defense and all that
 
that was the question on the taking. What if he were killed? (He might even have been, now that I think on it)
 
@Adriaan In Chicago (where handgun ownership was illegal at the time) two guys broke into a WWII vet's house . He had his service revolver and shot them both dead. Amazingly, they didn't charge him for the gun
 
1:29 PM
@Adriaan but even there is a cut off for this kind of stuff like I don't condone for instance the guy that found 5 teenage burglars and beat them up and then executed them 1 by 1 with his shotgun
 
@Machavity a jewellery store was robbed here, wife of the owner had a gun (obviously illegal here), and shot through the back door into the shop, killing one of them. She wasn't charged for murder afaik, but was for illegal possession of firearms.
 
Like if someone clearly doesn't pose a threat to you or your family (i.E just trying to get away) I don't think someone should be able to just kill them
burglary is bad yes but it's not a death sentence and joe schmoe #5599 isn't judge dredd
 
wow, how the heck did that happen...
 
@PetterFriberg so you definitely want it closed? xD
 
@Adriaan What did I do now?
 
1:37 PM
@PetterFriberg Happened in another room too. Chat hiccup?
 
hmm the script should not allow that, I wounder what went wrong
 
I find it sticks sometimes when I send the request through so multiple clicking probably sends it multiple times
 
it should not, but yeah probably something like that.
ooh Madara is getting chat flags ;)
 
@CodyGray commented on both the HTC burninate req and the Nokia one along the same lines
 
Seems like a valid counter-point. I was happy to see someone address it for HTC.
 
1:41 PM
@PetterFriberg TIL you can't sustain a chat flag against a mod
 
@CodyGray it is, but without showing techniques which might be a problem there it's not really relevant imo. On HTC this has been addressed using [htcsense] and the burninate went through; whereas on Nokia it was shot down before it went anywhere, on the same un-worked out premise. (Note that it's not that I want per sé to burn Nokia, I'd like to have a single guideline to go on for company name tags)
 
@Machavity meeh, I flagged a comment from mod the other day, it was approved :P, however I only asked to edit it to be more political correct.
 
@Adriaan Not a big fan of "single guideline" situations. Better to use your brain.
 
@CodyGray Sure, using my brain I don't see a difference between the two tags, nor has it been mentioned why we should keep Nokia other than that it would be "a lot of work". Hence my brain says: we burned bigger fish.
 
Speaking of brains, I need your creative juices for this one. I'm interviewing a candidate today and I'm thinking of a sample software scenario for them to test with. The idea is to make up some "new feature" of a software and write some bad code for a portion of it. The interviewee will then identify failure points of the code and fix it. Any ideas
 
1:52 PM
you should foo the bar ;)
 
we're already doing FizBuzz
we just want a practical problem on top of it
 
I've always liked the idea of pulling out a real bug that you recently fixed in your system, and seeing how the candidate would approach it.
You'd need an NDA of course, but that shouldn't be a big deal.
I never liked the overly-contrived interview scenario questions
 
@CodyGray interview is today. Good idea but I don't think we have enough time to prepare for it
but I do want to show them actual code
 
Oh yeah, probably not. Back to fooing the bars. :-)
 
@gunr2171 Does Smokey/Closey need any work doing? :p
 
1:57 PM
Closey Closey she left with Tuna
 
Eventually I'll rewrite that in dotnet (2.0)
 
And no one's running a copy?
 
Sam was
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because ??? — Dalija Prasnikar 2 mins ago
^ perfect
 
@JonClements Tuna was not really running it, it was more a love relationship ;)
 
@DalijaPrasnikar wth xD some people
 

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