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12:00 AM
alright, new UTC day. Time to go through
hi @EdCottrell o/
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[htc]"
That was fast
 
Ron
Fast and furious.
@TylerH Is CSS3 the latest version?
 
12:20 AM
CSS has moved away from major versioning
CSS3 is the last of those
each different aspect of CSS is now its own module, which is now updated independently of each other
 
Ron
I see.
 
G'night all
 
So you can have Flexbox module revision 1 and CSS positioning module revision 3
 
Ron
Good night.
Certainly different from my 2010. days with HTML and CSS.
 
A bit, yeah
Biggest changes in CSS since 2010 are probably... CSS now supports variables/variable declaration, and it supports more powerful layout opportunities thanks to the flexbox and grid modules
no need to throw everything in a table anymore to get the layout you desire
@Machavity nice robert e lee answer on politics.se
 
Ron
12:28 AM
I even remember the 2003. CSS-less days. Dark ages.
 
12:44 AM
Nah, there was CSS in 2003
 
Ron
Eeer, I must be thinking about that MS Front Page 2003 thingy.
It's a bit blurry to me.
 
@TylerH Thanks
 
Ron
Ah snap It was some homework assignment that prohibited the use of CSS.
 
heh, that would technically be CSS-less for ya then :-P
 
Ron
Haha I guess so.
 
12:53 AM
Eww, FrontPage. But still not as bad as the Word-HTML frankenstein
 
Ron
I also managed to catch some COBOL on college...
Punched cards and all.
Sheesh.
@Machavity I am trying to recall those days. I remember the Windows 3.1 days.
Which word version was that?
 
1:36 AM
@Ron as recent as Word 2010 :(
 
Ron
1:52 AM
@Machavity Phew, talk about progress.
@YvetteColomb Hello Yvette, how are things down under?
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant I love your comments throughout this post - you make logical arguments and while I do understand the OPs point - the issue really is - do we kick off people who are learning?
 
user3956566
@Ron good thank you - heading into spring - my fav season - winter is my least fav - followed by autumn - I don't like the cold
 
user3956566
and you?
 
Ron
@YvetteColomb Not to bad, thanks for asking.
 
user3956566
@Ron where are you?
 
Ron
1:57 AM
I like to think it is Europe.
 
user3956566
yep I just went and looked at your profile :)
 
user3956566
can I ask - have you noticed changes in the climate?
 
Ron
I sure have.
I 've been baking for months now.
40+
It's hotter here than in Singapore.
And I am 6 hrs drive from Austria. Nasty weather indeed.
 
user3956566
wow - we're used to the heat in Sydney. I haven't noticed that much of a change here - as our weather is crazy all the time (since I've been alive anyway) - we go from blistering heat to storms - a warm beach day in August to snowing again on the mountains. It's predictably unpredictable
 
user4639281
@Yvette this same argument comes up at least once every six to eight months or so.
 
Ron
2:03 AM
Last winter we had -25C. This summer well above 40C.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant yep - you've always spoken out about pushing too many question types off topic - I must say - I agree
 
user3956566
@Ron yep that's extreme - I'm meaning our weather will vary all within the one week. That's what I mean about changeable here
 
Ron
@YvetteColomb Summers turned nasty in SE Europe.
 
user4639281
My hope is that eventually my insistent pestering will turn into a cultural shift. That might be a pipe dream.
 
user3956566
@Ron ah - you have the same - I've never been to Europe - have always wanted to - of late I feel too tired to travel - it takes so long to get to most places from here
 
user3956566
2:07 AM
@TinyGiant nope it's not a pipe dream - we need to be the change we want to see (sounds so peachy). By speaking calming and consistently it makes a difference and encourages people
 
Ron
2:18 AM
@YvetteColomb You should make the effort and visit some day.
I don't think I ever crossed the equator. Closest I came to it was Singapore. Immensely nice place. Would like to visit NZ some day. Have friends there.
 
2:34 AM
Anyone know what's left on the burniation? I think just about all of the OT questions are closed.
 
user3956566
2:47 AM
@Ron NZ is beautiful
 
user3956566
@Ron I have an illness that has been wearing away at me for some years now - and it's making me tired - I don't think I'll ever make a long overseas trip, unfortunately.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant i wrote an answer meta.stackoverflow.com/a/355369/3956566 - if you'd like to give feedback to improve? we may as well try and make the point officially (i.e. in an answer)
 
user3956566
not sure what is to be done with these
 
^ possible sock puppeting
(Most likely sock puppeting)
 
3:02 AM
^The question was plagiarized, too - almost certainly sock puppetry
 
Plagiarized question AND answer with accept at exactly 12 minutes, and answer within seconds, plus the asker has 2 answers (out of 3 posts, 1 NAA) within the last hour.
I had a sneaking suspicion. The analogy seemed like it was too good to be written so fast.
 
3:14 AM
Hi guys/gals, I'm a mod at Ask Different and wanted to check whether this question might be on topic for SO? Any thoughts?
 
Woot! The user was suspended and their sock puppet larsond
@Monomeeth Kind of iffy. If it's purely a software or programming problem that boils down to 'how do I check if a device is 32bit' then it would be on topic. There might even already be a q&a for that
 
@AndrewLi Ok, thanks for that. I'll do a quick search and see if I can find an existing Q&A to refer them to. :)
 
3:41 AM
@AndrewLi Do you have the link perchance?
I have less than 10k and can't see the question or answer anymore
 
4:00 AM
@EJoshuaS To the user?
 
 
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5:31 AM
@Monomeeth it is missing an attempt in any programming language or toolstack they plan to use. Maybe they expect to find a piece of ready made software that does this for them, which could possibly make it fit of softwarerecs.se. If it is migrated there or here it needs lots more context and either an attempt at code or an extensive requirements list/pricing details etc. In the current state the question should remain closed and not be migrated.
Maybe offer to post on your meta for a site-recommendation where the OP and the community can first work out how the post should be improved.
 
5:45 AM
@AndrewLi Yes.
^Not sure what to make of that one...
 
@EJoshuaS I left a comment, they posted 3 similar answers
 
@EJoshuaS Signed up today and posted three link-only answers to the same website.
 
@rene Should it be flagged as spam, or just VLQ?
 
@EJoshuaS if anything, use a custom flag to explain. Might be just uninformed, the site they link doesn't look overly spammy
it doesn't seem to sell stuff, although there is an sponsered ad
 
6:00 AM
Yes, that's why I was a little hesitant to flag it as spam instead of merely VLQ.
 
The questions kind of ask for it, so I would rather handle the question instead
 
Ironically, the link in the other link-only answer is broken, which is exactly why the site rules say not to have link-only answers.
Just to make the request official (especially since all three are drawing new attention now)
@AndrewLi thx
 
Please, don't link to user profiles
 
@rene Thanks for the feedback. Greatly appreciated!.
 
yw
 
6:18 AM
Both appear to be spam (the user is clearly associated with the site he links to).
 
6:49 AM
(I think it's Russian)
 
 
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user2371524
8:37 AM
@user1643723 nevermind then :D
 
@FelixPalmen thanks, now you have responded, and I can't edit it anymore :D
 
user2371524
@user1643723 well it's fine now
 
But it is (mis)tagged "clv-pls", not "cv-pls". Won't that confuse bots or something?
 
9:01 AM
@CÅ“ur That question is not currently able to be deleted by non-moderators. It needs to be > 2 days old (10k+) or have a score of <-2 (20k+). Is there really a reason to rush to delete it? When translated it just appears to be a (unclear) question.
@user1643723 Yes, that will not be recognized by the various scripts. Given that it looks like it will be closed shortly, that should not be a large problem. After it's closed ping an RO (room owner) and ask that it be moved to the graveyard (as would normally be done semi-automatically for fulfilled requests).
@user1643723 Now closed.
 
9:25 AM
I suppose it saves time when people delete their own meta rants... sighs
@user2314737 I edited it to correct the typo... keeps things simpler
 
(I did downvote it, so maybe it will be roomba)
 
Proposal: causes a bot to schedule to post a in two days.
 
oh, thanks to whoever delete it already...
 
9:44 AM
@JohnDvorak What about 20k users?
 
Not an option for posts >2 score, according to the message above
 
@JohnDvorak While it is < 2 days after when it was closed, the score must be < (-2) (i.e. <= -3) for 20k+ users to be able to vote to delete.
 
Ahh... didn't know which post thus what score it was... was just throwing it out there :)
 
@JonClements No, it's a valid question. The post in question has been down-voted and is now at -3. So, can now be delete-voted by 20k+.
@JohnDvorak & @JonClements, How about just dynamically adjusting what's seen in the transcript to indicate if the [del-pls] request is valid, or if it does, or does not require 20k+? Would that, along with a button to search for [del-pls] requests be sufficient?
 
hi o/
 
9:55 AM
@Makyen I'm not fussed... sometimes I click through and if it's blatant tosh - hit delete and be done with it. Otherwise leave it to you guys - so whatever's easiest /best for you...
 
I pretty much ignore the transcript, but if you integrate it with the userscript that searches in the transcript and enhances that, it could still be useful. But then you'd still need people to indicate their deletion request is not to be taken immediately.
We could figure out later if we want to plug a reminder bot into it.
 
@JonClements Well, what I described is easy (from this point) because I've already written it, but I need to finish a few things off and get it into shape to actually release it. Feel free to bug me about it, as I've been procrastinating over the last while. It also performs the same adjustments in search. The transcript & search page would indicate it's an invalid request and why it's invalid. Once posted, as people search later in time it will show that it's then valid.
 
Sounds interesting
 
@JohnDvorak The delaying 2 days prior to sending the request would have to be written, but wouldn't be all that hard. If done, it'd probably be easiest to integrate it into the cv-pls generator (which will also do del-pls in the near future).
 
Is asking " to what framework/stack a particular set of code belongs", considered off-topic?
 
10:07 AM
@Makyen +1. Maybe the delay could be done client-side to avoid having traces in the transcript?
 
@JohnDvorak If integrated in the cv-pls generator, yes the delay would be client side (i.e. keep a list in user script storage and post when the time has expired). The transcript adjustments I mentioned are also client side. What's on the server doesn't change. On the client side the transcript is adjusted to indicate the current status of the post and request.
 
But then again we probably want the posters to review their requests before they're sent
 
10:30 AM
@JonClements @JohnDvorak, This is the normal transcript. These are the current adjustments (with similar adjustments in search). As for the [del-pls]it currently shows invalid requests like this.
 
looks sweet :)
 
user2371524
Hmm did I just discover a bug? I hit "Reject and Edit" on a poor edit, but the dialog wouldn't load. Refreshing the site, I found the edit was just rejected without further ado :o
 
@FelixPalmen when did that happen?
 
user2371524
just a few minutes ago...
 
user2371524
maybe there was another reject, so this is fine. Just not sure :)
 
user2371524
 
@JohnDvorak That's a good point. Having the user have to re-confirm that it should be sent would be considerably more work if you are wanting them to review the request just before it's actually posted (i.e. two days after they put it in the queue). If it's OK for them to have reviewed the request at the time they queued it, using a similar dialog to the current cv-pls request generator, that's not too difficult (not trivial, but no significant UI work).
 
Just didn't go through... in one or two... so - not a bug... just slow loading and task already completed or something I guess
 
@JonClements Thanks. It still needs some work, but the major parts are there.
 
user2371524
@JonClements thanks for checking ... I didn't know how to do that myself :)
 
@FelixPalmen You can go to the post timeline: stackoverflow.com/posts/45781137/timeline
(although I believe it'll only show reviews that are complete - not pending)
 
user2371524
10:51 AM
@JonClements Ah interesting, didn't know about that! It's not linked anywhere, is it?
 
@JonClements correct. It used to do that when the new timeline went live but was corrected only a few days later
 
@FelixPalmen Not on the site (except in meta posts telling you about it)... but you can construct the link yourself and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a userscript somewhere that adds it for you :)
@rene Thanks - I just checked in an incognito window, and yeah... the first posts review that's yet to be completed doesn't show there...
 
user2371524
@rene nice, thanks :)
 
@FelixPalmen & @JonClements, @rene FYI: There's also: SE Modifications
 
10:55 AM
@Makyen strangely... I'm very wary of having any US running that I haven't thoroughly checked... and ... I've got a click through to a timeline anyway... so :)
 
@JonClements I can quite understand. I review all the US which I install. If you prefer, here's a bookmarklet: javascript:void(window.open(location.href.replace('questions','posts').replace(‌​/[0-9]{4,}\/.*#([0-9]{4,})/,'$1/').replace(/([0-9]{4,})\/.*/,'$1/timeline')))
 
Ooo... hadn't seen that spam in a while - was wondering where it'd gone...
 
Spam. Dead in 24s.
 
@JonClements You just deleted a comment of mine, thank you for that, but what to do with these kind of answers, he did not add any value, did not show any creativity and just reposted exactly what I said before.
 
Wasn't exactly what you said... there's other answers that happen to also be fairly similar... Unless they're going around and blatantly posting substandard copies of existing answers, it's best to assume a good faith answer and that they haven't seen yours/other answers... Treat it as any other low quality/poor answer and downvote it if you want. There's not much else to do.
 
11:08 AM
Okay thanks, I did not say anything about the other answers since they do clearly differ "inside".
 
Okie dokies... if you end up choosing to comment and it goes down hill, just flag and we'll come clear it up, but ultimately, unless a user is doing this consistently - not much needs to be done - hopefully they'll learn from downvotes (which for new users can lead to temporary and even full answer bans by the system)... As frustrating as it can be sometimes - I wouldn't worry too much and just move on...
 
11:23 AM
@JonClements ^
 
@AnttiHaapala knowing you and your C - I'm assuming you're right... so already done
 
it didn't have any code when the cv's were pouring in :D
that's why it was closed
@JonClements thanks :)
 
11:36 AM
@JonClements Unfortunately, that question is straying towards 'vamp' territory. The OP is not very skilled and has code with more than one problem:(
 
Yes... was just wondering the point of reopening that when all that's happening is comments :)
 
I mean, I'm tempted to help more, but it would essentially mean writing all the code:(
 
user3956566
anyone wish to cast a reopen vote on this stackoverflow.com/questions/45718051/…?
 
Done.
 
user3956566
@MartinJames merci bcp
 
11:45 AM
@YvetteColomb Umm... probably not - don't appear to have had much luck with the last one :p
 
user3956566
@JonClements que?
 
@YvetteColomb Jon helped reopen a vamp q. :)
 
I was coerced into it... you should have seen what he was threatening to do with my squeaky toy!
 
user3956566
@MartinJames oh - I hates those - they become exhausting
 
user3956566
@JonClements I believe you - @MartinJames will you stop traumatising him with his squeaky toy?
 
11:57 AM
@YvetteColomb It wasn't me! I never touched Squeaky!
 
So now we know what Yvette thinks of ya hey :)
 
user3956566
@JonClements not at all - I think he's hilarious - just might be a little unethical with squeaky toy threats ;)
 
user3956566
@MartinJames but it makes such a good story
 
@YvetteColomb I am squeaky clean on that issue.
 
@Martin you're squeaky as well!? Awesome... once Mr Squeaky's been chewed to bits... I know where to go... :)
 
 
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1:44 PM
Wowsers... wasn't expected the SO votes table to be 12gb after uncompressing...
 
2:26 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels oh... and there was me thinking you'd come to warn us about a "terrible monster" that's nothing but a cute fluffy rabbit :p
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels it's ready for the "after life" now.
 
@honk ready for its "after life"
 
@Fred-ii- Thanks for your help!
 
@Fred-ii- Let it stay and accumulate D-V's
 
2:31 PM
@honk you're welcome
@HovercraftFullOfEels lol!!
that is just mean! I like you (grin)
 
@JonClements: and those aren't horses, they're coconuts
 
ekki-ekki-ekki-pitang-zoom-boing
 
@JonClements sounds like I'm in an old Batman show, or Loonie Tunes lo!
 
Monty Python and the Holy Grail... Hover's avatar is of Tim the Enchanter :)
 
@JonClements ah yes, of course :) indeed a classic.
 
2:39 PM
Hilarious scene: youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690 - you can also catch the coconut reference :)
 
now viewing
yeah I remember that :))
 
3:00 PM
Can a RO bin this request please? Question is no longer off topic
 
3:13 PM
 
I should not have reopened it from earlier original post
 
user3956566
3:31 PM
whenever I see honk I feel like grabbing their nose and honking it - like gonzo's nose
4
 
3:44 PM
@YvetteColomb That's why I am honk: Big nose ;) If you want to honk it, because I did something stupid, just do so. But please also let me know how to improve :)
 
user3956566
@honk I don't think you're stupid at all - I just think of gonzo and the idea of honking his nose makes me happy :)
 
Just go ahead :) Maybe I'm not (that) stupid, but I know I'm doing stupid things from time to time...
 
user3956566
for me - it's daily :)
 
user3956566
4:05 PM
@TimCastelijns what do you think of this question stackoverflow.com/questions/45610874/…?
 
I think it sucks
 
user3956566
yep - nothing to do with it really - while the bounty is active and half way through
 
user3956566
hi puppy @JonClements
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns have a look at this stackoverflow.com/questions/45710056/… and the comments.
 
too long a read for a sunday
 
user3956566
4:11 PM
lol
 
user3956566
There's another answer to a bounty question that is just a copy and paste with no attribution from another site
 
6:03 PM
c-c-c-c-combo breaker
 
6:18 PM
ugh, how am I supposed to revoke a flag again?
ah, got it
 
Click the flag link again and the button will say Retract (in case anyone else was wondering)
@SotiriosDelimanolis Can del now
 
b-u-tiful
 
6:42 PM
wait, no, it got an upvote
 
countered, deletable again
 
Is this Q missing an MCVE? stackoverflow.com/q/45660770/2675154
 
[htc] needs some CVs, since we've just about cleaned out the SOCVR list
 
7:02 PM
@Machavity Are the HTC questions seeded into the close-vote review queue, or do you need people to be going through the questions and casting the first close-vote?
@honk I'm not sure if it's actually an unclear debugging question with no MCVE, or an unclear how-to question. I just went with "unclear" and left a comment.
 
@Makyen I was actually asking myself the same. Thanks for your feedback and the comment on the Q.
 
7:19 PM
Sweet. I've just got 132 messages from the same email address and with the same content. Within a few minutes.
and more are coming.
 
@JohnDvorak well, you do have your email address in your profile so it may be coming from there.
unless you're talking about another email address of yours?
 
That address, yes.
 
@JohnDvorak How much $$$$$$ have you won, and what small token do you have to give up front to get it?
 
well, you can easily block it. If it still persists, then filter it if it's going to contain the same content, if and when it comes from another address
 
Blocked easily, yes. Marked 100 en-bulk as spam, the remaining 50 or so were redirected there automagically. Seems to have stopped now.
No fake lottery win. It just told me to not be stupid. Three times per message.
 
7:28 PM
I set my filtering to all possible spam to not enter at all. I was getting far too many from email addresses that were from people I know but were spoofed
and from other sources.
 
My spam folder is relatively calm, other than this one little wave.
 
@JohnDvorak hm... sounds like it may have originated from some idiot on the network
 
Faulty script, perhaps.
 
could be anything, up until you can try and see if there's anything in the headers that will help
 
I might check the headers if it recurs.
 
7:30 PM
10-4
 
@JohnDvorak fan-mail?
 
I can only guess
200 messages doesn't seem as much of a volume for a truly malignant origin, TBH
 
@JohnDvorak The spambot network has yet to warm up. 200K tomorrow.
 
oh, nice
 
7:57 PM
Sorry - I've run out of deletes for today:(
 
@MartinJames no problem, answer some regex questions ....
 
@rene /\.^($£()&()&%&*")($_&)(_&%)()
 
Need to go to bed. Thanks to all! Cya o/
 
Nite:)
 
@MartinJames you can post that as an answer on 80% of the open questions I guess. No one will notice and you'll have a gold badge in that tag in no time ...
 
8:00 PM
@rene I'm SO tempted.... :)
 
Good ...
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis i think you follow my answers and delete them, today you down-vote an answer of mine and delete two answers stackoverflow.com/questions/45763234/… and this stackoverflow.com/questions/45785378/… and you ask to delete this also stackoverflow.com/questions/45779762/…
I will not forgive you @SotiriosDelimanolis this is what i can say to you, do what you want to do but remeber i will not ever ever forgive you
 
Yes, I delete a lot of poor questions in . You happen to answer a lot of poor questions. Save yourself some frustration and follow the guidelines phere: Answer well-asked questions
 
do what you want to do you are free
 
Is there a question you wish to ask us?
 
8:42 PM
@YCF_L Well I helped too. The 'can I use catch' question was pointless - don't use 'catch' as a method name and the whole issue is avoided. The SQL string concat one could easily have been caught by trivial debugging, that besides the injection issue:(
 
@MartinJames ok thank you i lost more than +90 point today just because someone.., whatever thank you
 
No. If you got points by answering questions that weren't asked, you didn't actually get the points.
Focus your efforts on questions unlikely to get deleted, and all will be good
 
Ron
9:17 PM
Code red on this one.
The OP's comments leave much to be desired.
 
He's amazing
 
very
Fire in the hole
 
Ron
Is this reason enough to put him in the penalty box?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I flagged that now deleted comment of theirs.
 
9:22 PM
I feel like deleting the question will only benefit the asker
 
till code do us part
 
@JohnDvorak: he was asking for it to be deleted. Definitely trolling and nothing more.
 
I did delvote
 
notice what their profile reads as though?
 
I didn't bother flagging comments since the question is a goner anyways
 
9:23 PM
that's rude/offensive in its own right
 
I agree
 
Unless the university specializes in female dogs, that is
 
@JohnDvorak well, flagging does help for behaviour patterns though
 
aye, go for it
 
Is there a way to flag it for the moderators? In cases like that, I've usually flagged one of their posts for moderator intervention.
 
9:24 PM
I already flagged a comment of theirs to Hover earlier
 
Yes, I did too, clear trolling
 
@EJoshuaS well, you can't see the question anymore, 10k+ can and able to still flag deleted questions
 
Ron
I feel his account should be suspended. That kind of behavior is unacceptable.
 
I was about to ask if it was possible to flag deleted questions. Obviously, I can't b/c I'm <10k :(
 
@Ron probably won't happen on 1st offense. Stack likes to give the benefit of the doubt
 
Ron
9:25 PM
I see. Fair enough.
 
there are enough members here to take care of it ;-)
 
I actually think that the individual should be suspended - there's no need for that kind of trolling around here, it just distracts from legitimate questions.
 
you can always inform one of us if anything needs special attention @Ron
just as you did earlier
 
Ron
@Fred-ii- Ok. Appreciate it.
 
about the "code red". thanks :)
welcome
 
Ron
9:28 PM
Np. I frequent the C++ tag and ran into it.
 
This site is here to focus on the quality of the question, not the comments, and comments should never be used as a motivation for closing a question, for flagging a moderator, yes, but not for closing.
So I do have some issue with the "code red", for the above reasons.
 
not 100% sure on "comments should never be used as a motivation for closing a question"
 
Ron
The code red was meant for the comments. I should have clarified that.
 
@Ron: which is exactly why the statement concerns me. This forum should not gang up on someone for comments
 
this fo-what?
 
9:32 PM
@JohnDvorak: but comments are volatile, evanescent even, and can disappear at the wink of a moderator, while questions are the coin of the realm.
chat site
 
Ron
If OP goes around and insults everyone that raises a red flag IMHO. I have flagged his comments as rude.
 
Which is appropriate to do
 
@Makyen We're just using the Magic Tag and seeded questions AFAIK
 
From the site's FAQ:
"Do not ask for up or down votes on any posts. While Shog9 has allowed organized voting in chat rooms, we do not want to be seen as a voting mob. Our goal requires a certain level of support from the community at large, as such we don't want anything in the transcript that could be perceived as us treating people unfairly."
While no one asked for DV's, the notification of comment escalation risks creation of a voting mob.
 
Ron
That would have happened even if the question was not mentioned in here.
Cpp community is somewhat strict.
 
9:36 PM
This chat room has an escalating effect
 
Ron
That could be true and you raise a valid point.
 
I agree Hover, but as for other abusive stuff (posts), we normally allow to ask for flag on really rude comments in SOCVR, what is important is that users do not engage and pile on in comments, instead they flag (to nuke comment) and carry on.
 
@Machavity Can you clarify? Not familiar with that terminology.
 
Ron
But I still feel such behavior should be reported in here too as there might be some super mod in here who would have put the OP in the penalty box.
 
@EJoshuaS Magic Tag. Build your own CVQ
gotta run
 
9:40 PM
as usual the key is to target "content" never the user.
 
@Ron there shouldn't be a need and that's not what this room's about; flagging does that if needed for moderation. TBH, I thought your "code red" earlier was for a bad question, which it was and I voted to close as too broad, even though it was closed as "unclear". The OP showed no effort or code they tried.
even when not flagged to mod but as rude/offense, that gets seen by mods also, pretty sure it does
 
Ron
@Fred-ii- I see. Noted. The question was also bad. That aside I strongly feel such behavior should not be tolerated at all.
 
@Ron no; it should not be tolerated. Flagging a comment is good enough. Let nature take its course ;-)
it always does.
 
@Fred-ii- meeh still you can ask for flags on comment as you can for any offensive content on SO, the room is about moderation of content on SO
 
Ron
Haha, OK, will do in the future.
 
9:43 PM
@PetterFriberg zackley ;-)
 
not only close voting ;), anyway I agree normally one abusive flag is enough, it will alert mod, users nuking comments like this time, then deleting post, probably will not
 
@PetterFriberg: including low-qual answers? Like this one, or should those still only be flagged.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels You should not ask for NAA or VLQ flags (since it has no sense, 1 flag is enough), but you can ask for deletion of answer (if it is already dv to allow deletion)
 
that would require 20k+ though, correct?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels see my comment under that; I had to edit that....... yet another one.
 
9:49 PM
@Fred-ii- hmm that was not a good move Fred, you invalidated the VLQ review.
 
@PetterFriberg how so?
 
@Fred-ii-: he was using the > to quote a statement from the OP's post, so he was using it for quoting purposes.
 
I rolled it back
 
@Fred-ii- if you edit a post with VLQ flag, it will end the review stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/17090577
 
sorry about that; I didn't know
I added my vote
to delete
 
9:51 PM
if you edit a post from review that has NAA flag you clear the flag, so yeah never edit stuff needs to go.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I see; that quote comes from the URL.
I flagged as vlq
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Yeah you need 20K for that, I'm always really careful with VLQ flags, it's still not crystal clear if "bad/useless" answers should be deleted by 20K or by the 2K review queue. Do note that the VLQ flag is usually handled by review, while the NAA flag by mods and the review queue tends to delete stuff.
many people states that really bad answers should just be downvoted and not flagged, its upto 20K to decide and delete bad answers not the 2K review queue
 
I guess it's an honest mistake on my part
 
@Fred-ii- Don't worry about, you learn something new every day and it's just 1 bad answer out of 1M.
 
@PetterFriberg yep.
 
9:58 PM
@Hover I saw an interesting post by Cody, related to really really bad answers opening the way to use VLQ flag on it, I will try to find it again.
 
10:09 PM
@Hover I can't find it, probably deleted, but yeah Cody was saying if really bad answer that can't be saved by editing you could flag VLQ and basically that's why mods handle NAA and review queue VLQ, hence to get "domain knowledge" for review queue to verify that it's not a salvageable answer.
anyway that answer is link only, so a VLQ is merit or even a NAA flag.
 
Ron
Might have been wrong on that one. Carry on.
 
You can ask for it to be deleted by 20K, it does not have much sense on SO. (however I would not flag it)
or just let the roomba roll
 
Ron
There seems to be a large influx of nonsense questions as of lately.
Very odd.
"WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY CODE HELP ME JESUS" What kind of question is that...
 
@Ron Really - someone wrote that in a question? What's the link?
 
Ron
Here you go.
Accompanied with insults in the comments. Now removed. I suspect it might be the same user from the previous question.
 
10:26 PM
@Ron It's not much good if you're language-agnostic.
 
Ron
True
 
Is this too broad?
 
@EJoshuaS to many questions too broad, with 1 off-site resource, mcve since it may depend on site, to me it's unclear what he needs to do baah whatever...
 
10:46 PM
^Rude/abusive
 
big time
 
@EJoshuaS I think so, that's why I reported it.
 
@PetterFriberg Yep - I flagged as well, it's obvious trolling.
 
The fact was that user was also unregistered, the word turd and the photo of his prof or similar, seems like abusive to me.
 

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