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12:00 AM
@Olaf Because it is completely unclear how to treat a Python "declaration" like def f(bla): when called from C++.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels That reminds me I have some very tasty wine-berries in the fridge …
 
What are the permissible argument types, what's the return type?
That stuff would certainly be quite involved.
 
@BaummitAugen That would have to be defined in the ABI documentation. As much as for the C ABI. How do you treat a C++ vector` to an C VLA? It's basically the same questions; just much more complicated.
@BaummitAugen That does not mean the quetion itself is ridiculous. It is just TB (or maybe POB), hence OT here, but still a good question (reminds me of those users who keep a question open just because they "like it"…)
 
@Olaf I'm pretty sure you simply cannot have an std::vector of something that contains a VLA.
@Olaf Never claimed the question itself is ridiculous a priori, did not even vote on it.
 
12:05 AM
It's just funny imagining the committee trying to standardize that.
 
nice, pass one over
 
!!/drink
ok i guess that does not work lol
...yet
 
!!/tea
 
@4castle brews a cup of lemon tea for @4castle
 
Gotta be more specific
 
12:07 AM
I highly doubt @PetterFriberg wanted tea.
lol
He might end up throwing the cup back at you. lol
 
Anyone a red grape? (did I really write wine-berries?)
@HovercraftFullOfEels Prost!
 
@PetterFriberg :-))
 
@PetterFriberg: wow, it's a video that goes over the history of the SO voting structure. Interesting.
 
12:21 AM
@PraveenKumar caching
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Yeah I liked it too, a bit long, specially since Shog9 is making a mess with camera, I put it as background sound while browsing.
he surely has is name in feeds, I hope he will not nuke me for that ;), it was just constructive criticism
 
@PraveenKumar I closed that one
;)
@RiggsFolly oops, seems I just did that ^
oh well
 
@Fred-ii- not sure if typo, a dupe about how to insert into mysql with php would have been better
 
@PetterFriberg well, stuff they forgot to do qualifies as a typo, least that's what the other guys have voted on stuff like that before.
 
12:29 AM
@Fred-ii- meeh not really my definition, OP did not really forgot, he did not know how to do it, anyway I'm surprised I can't find a good dupe searching google "php how to insert to mysql table", you need a canonical for that
That query on my google (it) --^ gives on 1 SO result that is crappy
 
@PetterFriberg Yeah, got my "meh" on that one too. They've a few answers in there to which they haven't either looked at or just smiled and they never said "goodbye".
 
You should make a nice canonical with prepared statement etc (if there is not already)
 
@PetterFriberg I think there is one out there already. I was going to do one, but there's already this one stackoverflow.com/questions/60174/… and a lot in the php/mysql topic section stackoverflow.com/documentation/php/topics which I feel is probably not visited enough, or they want their code to "work now" without wanting / bothering to learn anything.
 
@Fred-ii- Yeah but first is very specific (I can't edited that :D), people will not find that, you would need something more basic about how to use php to insert into mysql ecc, baah, probably you would need to find a basic question, edit it to be general with a good title and then pass an answer...
 
@PetterFriberg "you would need something more basic" - Something like <?php echo "Hello world"; ? lol!!
thoughts on this one? stackoverflow.com/q/45395253 is that considered as a repost of their previous question stackoverflow.com/q/45393442
 
12:39 AM
ooh yeah that's the way to avoid a close this questions (and generate some more traffic to SE, that pays this cit-chat) :D
 
their previous question also received a vote to reopen
 
Off to bed. Bye! o/
 
Cya Baum
 
@Fred-ii- yeah same question and the previous question was better. I can't judge if too broad or not.
 
12:44 AM
@PetterFriberg so it's safe to hammer it with their previous one?
and add the one you just put in there I noticed?
 
meeh your the hammer in php, I'm just a poor java guy :D
but I can't really see a difference in question
 
the guy's arguing with me
so it boils down to asking for 3rd party resource
voting as such
because it fit the bill ^
 
@Fred-ii- but is first really too broad?, does it take that much code?, or is it just wrong approch?
 
@PetterFriberg I think they haven't spent enough time testing what they posted earlier.
there are many tools/resources out there. They just need to keep looking
they should do like I have a few times, spend 3 days on Google
and not just 3 mins, even 3 hours isn't enough
I think they're just plain lazy
@PetterFriberg their previous question stackoverflow.com/q/45393442 they state: "I don't know the best order of checking the device, if I should start by testing if the device is a bot then testing if it's a camera and so on...?" and an "I don't know...", which (strongly) suggests they don't know what they're doing or have even tested it at all.
the order doesn't matter; whatever one falls on it first, wins.
 
Yeah and seems like dupe of something like this stackoverflow.com/questions/9982907/…
 
12:56 AM
very much so
 
I need to start and learn some php :D, seems like fun.
 
noticed the redirection happening for the embeded link in that answer? stackoverflow.com/a/9982973
it's going to github.com/serbanghita/mobile-detect and not Google
I wonder if that answer should be edited
 
yeah why not
 
done
not a fan of link only answers though
can't believe there's an undelete vote for this stackoverflow.com/q/45395253
the question won't serve anyone, IMHO
 
^^^^ now with bonus comment drama, while it lasts.
 
1:06 AM
@Fred-ii- maybe OP, he sees who deleted voted? stackoverflow.com/questions/45393442/…
 
@PetterFriberg wonder which option I should choose to flag that; mod and targetting members?
answer to them: Because, it won't serve anyone except them
 
just flag it also as not needed and move to next stuff, no use to talk to that guy, he is angry and will not listen
 
yep that's what I just chose now
I hope they're not expecting me or anyone else to answer that lol!
I have news for them: I won't. Ohh they are just sh*t out of luck
"I don't understand some people are voting down" - Because of what I said here earlier chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/38392529#38392529
and the one below that
 
@PaulRoub Yeah user posting non-sense, also in answers, I guess a user has already flagged for mod.
 
@PetterFriberg seen their edited profile? stackoverflow.com/users/7134209/the-big-boss
that's grounds for moderation
 
1:16 AM
Yeah flag any of his post (explain it), they will reset it
 
will do and I took a screencap just in case
 
The user profile has revision that's how they caught Ross William Ulbricht, alias Frosty
 
done
@PetterFriberg even though (in case they modify their present profile) they can get caught for it, it's logged is it?
 
@Fred-ii- Yeah as far as I read there is a meta about Frosty somewhere (SE provided the first revision of his profile) that was Ross William Ulbricht, the guy that run SR
Hence FBI manage to connect Frosty --> Ross
 
@PetterFriberg ok thanks. Well, that's good to know. I've had a few psychos like that one before where they mentioned me in a profile and also used part of my name in a new profile and/or modified their present one. Some people are so sick, they think they're well.
 
1:23 AM
I can't guarantee that mod can see it, but SE staff can.
btw he was a php guy like you ;) stackoverflow.com/questions/15445285/…
 
ah ok
@PetterFriberg what happened to him? (or possible her lol)
 
I actually read the whole fbi document during vacation, it was interesting to see how he organized his business
@Fred-ii- HE had a web site called silk road, selling illegal stuff (like drugs ecc)
 
sounds like a odd story
ohhhh yeah I heard of him, now that you mentioned that silk road thing
 
using bitcoins, the site was very big, millions of $
 
there was a story on that on tv about the dark web
so that's him?
 
1:29 AM
part of the FBI investigation was by using SO.
 
wow I didn't know that. That wasn't said in the program I watched
interesting bit of info
 
They found that code on the server + he used frosty in some SSH key
SE provided previous profile with e-mail (that was his real name and email adress)
 
holy fk eh?
classic "caught red handed"
 
Yeah that was a major mess up :D
 
by an older left stove burner on
hehe
 
1:31 AM
Lets see if I can find the fbi file
 
ok
 
it's interesting to read how he setup the system (more or less as I taguht but anyway fun to read on the beach)
 
on the beach huh? no doubt lol gee.. I wonder why?
 
I need some fun reading something when sun bathing..., why not a criminal complaint :D
 
nope
it's the surroundings ;)
 
1:45 AM
ooh on rene's favorite site, I found his favorite question quora.com/How-can-I-delete-questions-on-Stack-Overflow :D
 
@PetterFriberg haha!
 
1:57 AM
I left a comment under that one. See if they ask me "which" return.
yet, it's still unclear; missing a lot of code and how it's used.
 
2:11 AM
quiet night on the PHP/MySQL front. I guess they're either out partying or writing code, ready to be sent out as questions; waiting for the frenzy
 
2:42 AM
I think I may have me another live one
 
check out my comments section lol in my profile, maybe they've deleted the question by now
no they got my dv
Facepalm
I spent 3 months learning mysql before putting some stuff live and felt it was safe to do so, they can't spend 3 days, 3 weeks?
getting rude now, that comment was deleted.
 
walk away
just walk away
 
yep, me too
thanks btw.
to think I actually helped that guy
 
2:59 AM
No good deed goes unpunished
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I tend to think that as well.
 
3:13 AM
@EJoshuaS that and their "Is there any website/software or something that can give the list?" - falls under asking for just that.
 
True - it's a bad question for several reasons
 
yep and something that I've commented about also
they hit them all lol
I'll just take my pick
 
@Fred-ii- That's basically what I did. I would have like to be able to CV with all the reasons. :-)
 
@Makyen all ? there's always something new that comes along which make black holes grow even larger.
 
@Fred-ii- True. I really only meant all the ones I've listed. I've see worse, but I've never seen all. It's really difficult to qualify for migration to multiple sites while still having all the other types of problems :-).
 
3:26 AM
@Makyen one option that's missing is a voting to delete
that'd be nice lol
yes I know it's available.. "after" it's been closed lol
I meant "before" it gets closed because some are so bad
 
@Fred-ii- Being able to CV and del-v at the same time? Yeah, there are some where that would be appropriate.
 
@Makyen yes indeed
I'm a bit puzzled as to why some questions are so bad and automatically closed by a mod, that it's not deleted by that same mod at the same time.
about my puzzled comment; I'm almost tempted to post on meta asking about it
I noticed a really bad one just a few days ago, where the mod closed it in one pass, and it IMHO should have been deleted, it showed no code, no effort and was a "how to, do this for me" question. Too bad I didn't keep the link for it, I'd have something to reference with.
 
3:43 AM
@Fred-ii- You'd really have to ask the mod. However, I'd assume: The general philosophy is that we put questions on hold (calling it closed) in order to allow the OP the chance to edit their question into something that's on-topic. Well it can be clear that it's very unlikely for the OP to get the question into something on-topic, there is, usually, at least the possibility that it will happen.
Based on my understanding of the effects of moderator actions, I would further assume that the mod is doing the least invasive thing needed. A mod-closed question can be re-opened by regular users. A mod-deleted question can only be undeleted by a mod. (At least that's my understanding.)
 
@Makyen ok thanks. I think you saved me the time and probable embarrassment of posting lol
It makes sense.
I can see the 3 most used letters I use on my kb have or have almost vanished LOL! the "i, o, and n". odd huh? "I" guess I use "I" the most times hahaa
 
@Fred-ii- No problem. I'm glad I was able to provide some helpful input. It's often helpful just to get input from someone else, if for no other reason than to get another point of view.
 
"backspace" is also starting to see a lot of wear. I guess I notice my mistakes quite a few times before hitting "ENTER" lol
@Makyen Yes you did, thanks again.
 
@Fred-ii- Hmmm... those are a bit unusual... I would have expected "e", and then in descending usage order, with the home keys likely getting more use. For me, the keyboard usually dies, for one reason or another, prior to the wear being all that visible.
 
4:04 AM
@Makyen in order of disappearance, 1) "i" 2) "n" 3) "o" 4) "backspace".
maybe just less paint on those too lol
nite y'all, this cat's off to lah lah land.
 
night o/
 
user3956566
\o
 
user3956566
@HovercraftFullOfEels love it! so true
 
6:10 AM
morning
hey @Sami
 
hey @AndyK morning
 
@Sami how are you?
 
Good mate,how about you?
 
@Sami I'm allrite. Still on holidays but coding a bit
 
Good, yeah seems like we can't live without coding :)
 
6:16 AM
@Sami yes :)
 
6:34 AM
@AndyK Cya mate
 
 
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8:01 AM
@Fred-ii- once it is closed (and at score 0) it will roomba in 9 days. Why would you spend another second on something that is adequately handled so fat and set for deletion anyway?
 
The first one lsited here. Read wrong, meant missing MVCE
 
@LunarWatcher Ok, no problem, do better next time ;)
 
 
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9:31 AM
"Well, that didn't go so well" - new user is pushing back hard on their questions being edited, and any criticism is a clear case of "bullying and harassment". Would a kind and patient soul with oodles of time on their hands like to chime in? stackoverflow.com/questions/45389687/…
 
I think that goes in a different category, not closing questions
 
@LunarWatcher well, we're all about helping new users here :-)
 
Yikes, "Law enforcement is the last resort but if necessary I will take that route" :-(
(Reported to mod now).
 
Yeah, had to reply him/her. Threatening to call the police when people are trying to help...
overkill IMO
 
9:38 AM
@LunarWatcher they still own their content, they only gave a license to SE to publish it. That are slightly different things ...
 
true
 
Thanks LunarWatcher, good comments
 
Had a similar incident with someone else a while back
sucks with people who come to ask questions, and then end up threatening the people who want to help
 
(Minor nitpick: once you get over a certain rep you skip the review queue, but since I've got 29K edits to my name, I think mostly people think my edits are OK).
Yeah, it is completely bonkers
I can't imagine she would take well to code review. "You didn't like my code, I am calling the cops!"
 
Let's not discuss behavior of a user any further, let the mod handle it, given you raised a flag.
 
9:43 AM
OK, np
 
It is 2000 rep when you skip the review queue
 
@LunarWatcher yep
 
Ah, I'd forgotten :-)
 
I recently got to that point, so it is newly I passed it
passed 3k since that though
 
\o/
 
9:44 AM
@LunarWatcher and 20K for tag wiki edits ...
 
yeah
2k for questions and answers, 20k for tag wiki
 
It's a nice feeling to hit a new site permission
 
what is the limit in the documentation
Still need to pass the queue there
got a reply
 
Can you stop it now and move on, please?
 
I think I get some new permission at 15K, not sure what it is though
 
9:49 AM
I can check
 
I don't answer questions so often these days, editing takes up my Stack Overflow time :-)
 
15k is protect questions
 
Ooh. Is that good? :-)
 
I guess
 
I've found the sock puppet of Jon ...
2
 
9:52 AM
It is so questions cannot be answered by people with < 10 rep
 
Shouldn't that be the default? :-) [halfer runs away]
 
@halfer I wish it was < 100 rep
Questions and answers by new users are often bad, sadly
 
Yeah, but the good new ones have to earn rep somehow, and there's always the risk a first post is poor. There's an interesting discussion on Meta right now about mentorship, which seems like an interesting idea.
 
10:08 AM
@halfer Yes, it's an excellent idea and I upvoted the mentorship proposal, though probably not for the reason/s that the proposer considered. I expect it will collapse amost immediately under the weight of the vamps and other deadbeats, and the the smouldering piles of rubble that are left can then be linked in on all the 'SO does not help new users' meta posts:)
 
@MartinJames yeah, mentorship will not be free of side-effects ...
 
I have to say that the low level of quality these days really does depress me, but I am too far into SO involvement to quit. I wonder if my editing and improving is just tilting at windmills, and perhaps slightly OCD too :-)
To be fair, it is still a good resource for asking my own questions, but I am open to strategies to forgetting about the vamps, chancers, homework cheats, beggars and other assorted drains on community goodwill.
 
@halfer use a userscript
 
10:23 AM
Will that cause me to forget they're there? :-p
 
@halfer No, for that please watch into the flashing light for 20 seconds and count backward from 42 to 0 ...
2
 
10:48 AM
@halfer Yeah we definitely need some change, let's come up with some ideas that SE can implement in 6-8...
 
11:12 AM
Is it easy for graduates major in CS from the University of Central Missouri to find a nice job?
 
@pajamas Where? :)
 
@MartinJames As I mentioned above, the University of Central Missouri
 
This is not a room that is tailored for personal job advice. At best we close vote your potential employer.
 
@pajamas Please note that a lot of people (if not the actual majority) here are not from the US, let alone your highly specific little place.
You might as well ask someone for jobs in Siberia, we have no clue about that either.
 
You can get a free ride to Siberia though ...
 
11:17 AM
A Russian teacher of mine once told me: "Why do all you Dutch people want to take the Trans-Siberia express?!? Just take a Trans-Canadian train, you see the same trees but at least there's no drunken Russians around you and people understand you!"
 
@Adriaan And no bears.
 
@pajamas No bears? Ever been to Canada?
 
No
Where are you from,dude
 
Not Canada, not US
 
@Adriaan Maybe he means 'No Tupolev Tu-95'
 
11:20 AM
@MartinJames ah, great planes!
 
@Adriaan They do look impressive, yes, (well assuming they don't fly over your house on takeoff, and are not carrying a nuclear weapon to where you are:).
 
@Adriaan I guess Dutch
 
@MartinJames even without nukes I wouldn't want any Tupolev near me, they're rather prone to crash :p
@pajamas then you guessed correctly
 
@rene zzzzzz -doink!-
 
@halfer I hope you had a nice nap. The bad SO users are still there. Go back to sleep:)
 
11:38 AM
Bah :-)
 
12:28 PM
@rene I know. I just thought that the question (in question) was just so bad, that I felt there was really nothing to do or any way to salvage it. @Makyen made me see the light about this.
 
@MartinJames Please remember to use [tag:cv-pls] for our cleaning scritps
 
@Kyll OK:) I will look in the help for those magic tags:)
 
@MartinJames If you want we also have some helpful UserScript so that you never have to type a request manually =D
 
@Kyll Fine - i will look stuff up in your help:)
 
12:37 PM
Enjoy =)
 
12:59 PM
it's also unclear ^ but I chose not working since there were 2 other votes for it before mine
 
 
1 hour later…
2:04 PM
That was now edited ( the one I vtc above) with something new, not that falls into being "too broad".
now that falls... - typo, couldn't edit it on time ^
 
2:35 PM
that ^ based on their: "so a link to something to help me understand that would be appreciated". Too broad would be another valid option; your choice.
 
2:53 PM
Folks, there are 113 open [cv-pls] requests. Please, take some time to go through them: page 3, page 2, page 1.
4
 
3:07 PM
@PraveenKumar wondering how long I'll / we'll have to wait till they respond to my comment under it.
is "never" an option? ;)
 
@SmokeDetector Editing fail; That would be an f, but I don't have privileges.
 
3:33 PM
@Olaf That's a difficult one, since there's no close-reason for 'why the ... did you store the read result into a var, and then just ignore it in the next line? I mean, the poster even named it 'rdLen' !
 
@MartinJames Yes, the snippets are rubbish. I was not sure about CV as TB, but I gave the benefit of doubt. OP clearly needs a good textbook. I just don't see any use giving those ppl a fish. There are enough good books to learn fishing.
 
@Olaf .. or to be able to remember what it wrote a few seconds ago:) I could understand it, a bit, if it had just ignored the read() result, but to store it, then forget it, seems.. well.. umm.. 'strange'.
 
@MartinJames I don't think block-read/write makes sense actually. From the given input, it looks like a good usage of fgets.
 
@Olaf If it's text as shown, then sure, yes...
 
o/
 
3:44 PM
Hi, I proposed a change for the JetBrains.gitignore file in the gitignore-repo on GitHub. Would I be appropriate to open a question asking wether the change makes sense or not?
 
@JarrodRoberson there should be duplicate of it
what if we close it as dup of stackoverflow.com/questions/7709041/…
I voted
 
4:00 PM
@JarrodRoberson hahaha
yes SPAM SPAM all around
:P
 
@LasseMeyer This room is not a good place to ask. But imo, such a question is off-topic for being opinionated. You better start such a discussion in some JB-forum.
 
> deleted by Jarrod Roberson, TGMCians, Steve just now
gone
 
4:26 PM
Maybe you guys can focus on handling the bunch cv-pls here instead of watching the frontpage and pile on even more cv-pls's in the room. Down votes sometimes also help, you know.
@Olaf are you sure our room is not a good place? We can't advice other then: just try it and you'll meet our close votes if you got it wrong? At best the discussion is held at meta but to test the water I personally see no problem to ask in a room with regulars that are supposed to know if topics are on or off-topic. User did ask on meta btw. but self deleted.
 
Well, as y RO, you certainly set the rules. I just remembered some similar question being answered like that. But if you think different, it is fine. After all, I did answer the question in the post. The "imo" should make clear it is my opinion. I'd definitively CV such a question.
 
@rene Maybe meta is indeed a better place. I agree, it might be fine to have some room to ask such questions. But then, I'm afraid it would eventually cause large discussions and flame wars. So maybe it is fine to just test the water and ask the question to see if it gets CVed.
 
Yeah, Okay, you gave the correct advice, it is just that with This room is not a good place to ask. is, I dunno, not 100% correct so I would have stated that differently, that is all I guess
 
4:41 PM
@rene In retrospective, you are right. I should have phrased it more carefully to make clear it should just not become a regular Hobbit (cc @LasseMeyer).
 
So I think is a question about fu bar on-topic is fine to ask here, where I agree our response should be: No, see [this meta], No, maybe [this site but check their help], Yes, see [the help], We don't know [ask on meta]. But we're not going to settle topicness disputes in this room.
 
dur
@rene I tried to install the user script UnclosedRequestReview.user.js to see all open cv-pls, but the installation failed. Do you know the URL for installation with Tampermonkey? I could only install SO Close Vote Request Generator with the given link in FAQ.
 
hold on
@dur did you try this link?
 
@rene Not sure about "No". That's covered by How to Ask. I might be more strict, but I expect users with some 100 reps to know that already. But I appreciate the caution to first try getting some feedback before asking. One problem is How to Ask is not linked on the [tour].
 
@Olaf I didn't gave it a lot of brain-time, maybe we need to put it up for some ruling, maybe even a roommeeting.
 
dur
4:49 PM
@rene I thought. I tried again, but after reinstalling, I get only a blank page. And I can't see any new button.
 
Do you use Chrome? Do you have Tampermonkey Installed? Any errors in the dev console?
 
dur
@rene Yes, I installed chrome and Tampermonkey. The other script works.
 
which version of TamperMonkey are you on? The blank page suggests TampwerMonkey didn't eat it
 
dur
@rene The latest version (on help site it is 4.3.6).
 
@dur what you can do is this: 1. Open the TamperMonkey Dashboard, 2. Press the green + (next to installed scripts) to create a new script, 3. Copy the script text from here: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/blob/master/… 4. Paste in the new script (overwrite everything that was there). 5. Save, 6. Refresh chatroom page. 7. Check for errors. 8. Profit! (or blame me for lousy instructions)
 
4:58 PM
Question duplicated by same user stackoverflow.com/questions/45371455/…
 
dur
5:12 PM
@rene Thanks for you help, but it didn't work. I tried three times. I deleted the script in overview and installed again, copied the text. Nothing works. Sometimes it shows the script in context menu as activated (but I see no new button), after re-opening the browser tab the script is not anymore shown in context menu. I give up (at least for today).
 
@dur and @rene, with Tampermonkey installed, you can click on the [Raw] button from the GitHub page (direct link to the raw file). Tampermonkey will recognize that it's a user script and should bring up a page asking if you want to install.
 
Ewww... Cisco router configuration. I'd rather write some PHP..
 
dur
@Makyen: Isn't that the same link provided by rene here?
 
@dur I almost expect a virusscanner or another scriptmanager that interferes
 
@dur The one to the GitHub page is the same. The one to the Raw File is different (same script, without the GitHub UI). The [Raw] link is to the actual URL from which Tampermonkey will auto-magically ask you if you want to install the user script, as shown in this GIF.
 
dur
5:20 PM
@Makyen Same result. I can see the script in overview, but on the chat site the script is not shown in context menu of Tampermonkey.
 
@dur your are here right: https://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/41570/so-close-vote-reviewers
@dur and you don't have the requests button: i.stack.imgur.com/42Tgo.png
 
@dur rene's suggestion about a virus scanner/other script manager should be checked. To double check: You're reloading the chat & search pages after installing the user script, correct? If so, then we're going to need more info. A screen movie would help, so we can see exactly what's happening. I use LICECap on Windows/OSX. Note: the search page URL is very specific. Use the [requests] button, or the links in the stared message in the sidebar.
 
dur
@rene Okay, I clicked a lot in the context menu and the button is now there. After reopening the tab, the button is gone. But I learned, that I have to wait some (10?) seconds to see the button again. Thanks for your help.
 
@dur wow, if it takes 10 seconds for TamperMonkey to insert the script and run it's init ... that is a long time ...
This is what we execute to add the button: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/blob/master/… and that is just the else branch of the initial if.
 
dur
@Makyen: Thanks for your help. Now it works. But I don't know what I have done. Maybe I repeat the installtion tomorrow to find out what I did.
@rene I tested it again. I closed/opened Chrome and opened the chat. The button was there immediately. Maybe I'm just too inexperienced. But the first script was so easy too install...
 
5:37 PM
good night!
 
@TGMCians night o/
 
 
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6:41 PM
^Nothing whatsoever to do with it, in fact - blatantly off topic
 
7:21 PM
@PraveenKumar \o your still typing by hand cvs-pls request?
 
@PetterFriberg Yep... Why?
 
just curious, you don't like to install user scripts?
 
@PetterFriberg Coz I can't... In a bank corporate environment... :)
 
aah ok, you mess around on SO while at work :D
 
Shhhhhh!!! You you you.
 
7:45 PM
 
@PraveenKumar: it sounds to me like you're escalating that a bit. The OP's first reply to you was genial.
Their second message was not great, but at that point it is better to disengage.
(and vote to close!)
(The levels of entitlement from some question askers is an unfortunate consequence of gamification - there is a view that people will work hard for unicorn points. Unfortunately, to some degree, it is true - people are willing to work for free on Stack Overflow.)
 
@halfer ":)
 
8:06 PM
@PraveenKumar I agree with @halfer. Both you & OP were escalating. Your 1st comment was flippant/terse (in response to a Q which was also terse describing the issue). Yes, the Q/OPs comments are stated from the point of view that the OP feels entitled to an answer, without actually explaining the problem. It can get very tiring to explain over-and-over to OPs how to ask a question. I find it quite convenient to have auto-comments which provide much of that explanation. Or just CV and move on.
 
@Makyen Sure...
 
Yes - I find it urgent to move on, so I DCV ASAP:)
 
@halfer just for the record at least I appreciate a lot the effort you do to edit stuff, trying to make it useful and clear for future users. If you get to tired just move in on what you think will not be deleted.
 
@PetterFriberg: thanks. Some of my edits, for stuff I think will close anyway, is made primarily for the purpose of educating the OP. I do mean at some point to ask a Meta question about how we might measure the educational effectiveness of edits - to what degree do repeat posters learn from good edits to their posts?
It probably needs some statistical analysis skills that would be better in someone else's hands :-)
 
@halfer it's going to be hard to measure, fundamentally an edit like yours is always good, as long as you have fun.
 
8:14 PM
@MartinJames If the question already has a negative score, I often skip the down-vote part, as each down-vote can be used to cause a question to be deleted.
@halfer I also edit for that reason, from time to time. I'm not sure how much it helps, but occasionally I get comments from OPs, or see subsequent questions/edits from them, that indicate they've learned something. I too would be interested in some statistics as to how effective that is. However, I expect that, as @PetterFriberg mentions, it's something that is, at best, difficult to measure.
 
@Fred-ii- stackoverflow.com/q/45400788/5292302 another one, yeah google has no good index on that.... you php guys should figure out away to fix it.
darn "php how to insert into a mysql table" should give a nice SO result on google
to me (italy) it only gives this stackoverflow.com/questions/17138561/…, that is not even using prepared statement
@Machavity any suggestions for my message to Fred?
The canonical stackoverflow.com/questions/60174/…;, seems very difficult to find for new users in php, or you start to close as dup "How to insert in mysql" towards it, or you create a new canonical
I don't think you should rely on docs
 
8:46 PM
It's still the best there is, sadly
 
@Machavity Yeah but google give crap questions when you search and this stuff seems so basic also yesterday we had same poblem
 
@PetterFriberg Oh I know it. I can't count how many I've CVed because they failed to answer questions I had
 
hhm soon I will ask a question on how to insert into mysql using php :D, I will put a notice... google gives crap result!, SO is being flood, put a nice answer or close as duplicate to stackoverflow.com/questions/60174/…
 
9:06 PM
@Machavity not sure I would flag that, it has an answer in it.
 
@PetterFriberg Nuking the Q, not the answer
 
ok, agreed
 
:38397958 FYI: Here's a the caveat I usually post along with such links. I should've included it (an oversight, sorry). The gist: I agree, a down-vote just to Roomba a Q is marginal. However, most CV/del-V worthy Qs are also down-V worthy. IMO, using the scarce resource (i.e. CV, del-V, down-V) most effectively to maintain SO quality is reasonable. FYI: Shog9 on down-V to del-V.
 
@Makyen I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.
 
@MadaraUchiha Congratulations! \o/
 
@MadaraUchiha \o/
!!/errorlogs
 
@Makyen You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
9:36 PM
@SmokeDetector Then why did you tell me to do that to get more info when you already knew I couldn't?
 
@MadaraUchiha ooh nice yet another badge for ya!
@Makyen Ok and I have seen that Shog9 post (but it's context is a bit difference, vote to be able to delete vote (to use a priv you use another priv), just watch out, it's a very sensitive topic in SOCVR. in general we stay away from recommending up/down voting on posts.
just get'em to install your roomba script and they can figure it out them self
 
Already posted a request for this, but this can be deleted by 10K now if anyone has a few spare votes, it's the last question that won't Roomba: stackoverflow.com/questions/21699123/…
 
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