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1:04 AM
;)
 
Both gone now.
 
@Nkosi thank you and @Fred-ii-
 
welcome
 
That's still poor tone by teylyn there. :/
 
@BaummitAugen: agree
His comment was an uncalled for ad hominem attack
 
1:12 AM
True.
 
ad hominem...words that make me chuckle when ever I say them in my head. lol. It's like an ear worm. lol
 
@BaummitAugen: how goes the campaign?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels No idea, I'm waiting for Tuesday like the rest. XD
 
Good luck with it!
 
With Cody and Andy running, runner-up would be a great success already though.
 
1:16 AM
Is it ok asking to upvote a "comment" if I feel 100% about it? I mean, asking "here'?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Thank you!
 
@Fred-ii-: I don't understand your question, can you clarify?
@BaummitAugen: yes, both Cody and Andy are strong contenders for the spot. But even if you don't make it this year, please keep trying.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Thanks, I will.
Hopefully, Nathan will too.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels there's a PDO question that came up tonight and I hope it doesn't get closed using a usual duplicate for it, being an undefined index. If someone were to visit it with a gold to close it or flag it as such, it doesn't apply to the question, it's a particular case to which I posted a comment about it in the question and asking here if they could upvote the comment.
 
@Fred-ii-: the PDO notice question? Let me look at it.
 
1:20 AM
I have never seen a case like it before
ok thanks
yes that one
I almost closed it at first glance. I'm glad I didn't.
 
thanks. Pretty interesting/odd though eh?
it's a first for me
I just edited the title for it
 
1:59 AM
Bedtime for me. Cya! o/
 
2:28 AM
@Nkosi Does that fall under customer service for [your favorite company]?
 
@EJoshuaS I was torn between too broad and off-topic off-site resource recommendation. I did not go down the customer support as I know nothing about the api.
the api tag has 500+ questions though
 
3:24 AM
The tag is apparently drawing a lot of off-topic questions.
 
 
1 hour later…
4:32 AM
morning
o/
 
\o
!!/tea
 
@suraj brews a cup of chamomile tea for @suraj
 
!!/tea
 
@TGMCians brews a cup of chamomile tea for @TGMCians
 
Yeah
Thanks
 
4:40 AM
oh you are a tea drinker too
?
 
sometimes milk tea
I take green tea
twice in a day
@suraj you may want to drink it ^^
 
!!/coffee @TGMCians
 
@suraj brews coffee for @suraj
 
haha
stackoverflow.com/questions/45407650/… "How does this work today, in 2017?"
 
@TGMCians ?
 
4:54 AM
@JAL Once this is closed, can you please use your dupehammer to add the link from my comment to the duplicate list? Thanks!
 
@TGMCians just needed a bit of editing I think
 
@Makyen what does he mean "How does this work today, in 2017?" ?
Yep suraj
 
@TGMCians They want to know how it works. The phasing implies they know, or were able to find, information about how it might have worked in the past, but were unable to get it to work now using that information. OTOH, they could be a time traveler that has come back in time from some point in the future when it's done differently. :-)
 
 
1 hour later…
6:08 AM
How it is possible ?
I closed this question
still he was able to answer
 
Thanks
 
^ hmm so only Smokey coffee allowed here :p
 
haha I think so
 
6:54 AM
Morning \o
 
o/
 
\o
 
16 hours ago, by Makyen
Folks, there are 113 open [cv-pls] requests. Please, take some time to go through them: page 3, page 2, page 1.
40 CV's burned on those, also ~20 are closed now
 
7:17 AM
use of [0] in js
 
@VISHALSINGH wut?
 
@VISHALSINGH Did you perhaps mean typing that into Google?
 
7:39 AM
@suraj and @MadaraUchiha
i am talking about in javascript
what is the use of [0]
 
@VISHALSINGH You may get better answer in JavaScript room
> This room is for support and discussion about reviewing and coordination of site-wide cleanup efforts.
 
ok, thanks
 
> 0 votes remaining
too early
 
> 9 votes left
 
user3956566
hi all
 
hi @YvetteColomb
 
user3956566
:)
 
Aren't you running for moderator?
 
o/
 
user3956566
7:59 AM
yep
 
user3956566
I did much better in the primaries that I thought I would
 
user3956566
so I plan to run in the next election
 
It is better to do better than worse
 
user3956566
yes :)
 
I think there were a lot of popular names this year, so competition was fierce.
 
8:00 AM
 
user3956566
yes that is true
 
user3956566
I think we'll be in good hands, whoever is elected
 
Or, is. It's not over yet. ;)
 
Whoever two is elected*
 
user3956566
yep and they often then call up more after the election - so who knows how many mods will come from this?
 
8:03 AM
Maybe this is the year when everyone wins
 
user3956566
nah they won't take 10 O>O
 
FireAlarm is right about that one
 
user3956566
Wetting for you replies
 
user3956566
I missed that comment
 
user3956566
oh do it again oops need to be serious
 
8:10 AM
That last cv-pls now has a comment-as-answer.
Flagged.
 
user3956566
it's been edited - technically it is an answer - but I don't know how the dickens the posted knows what the question is - cos I don't
 
@YvetteColomb thats a link only answer..
 
^ yup
It has a tip first (which is fine i there is more) and then a link to answer the question
 
user3956566
I agree with that
 
user3956566
I don't think it's a good answer, but SO has an odd policy on deleting answers - personally I do not agree with it
 
user3956566
8:21 AM
@suraj @J.Steen @LunarWatcher have a look at this meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/318919/…
 
That question ^ is a request for code
too broad
 
@YvetteColomb I think its a general confusion between vlq flag and naa..
 
user3956566
@suraj yep
 
user3956566
personally - I think there's a lot of answers on here I'd love to delete - just stick to the community's framework
 
@suraj I've no idea what that first part of the answer is supposed to be but the next part is definitely link only.
 
8:28 AM
@Bugs Check Yvette's edit.. OP had API key in the code
 
user3956566
@Bugs the first part - I've edited it out and mod flagged to have the history redacted - as the OP posted private keys that should not be revealed in a public place
 
Ah I see, missed that. Answer is link only then and should be removed.
 
user3956566
yep I agree now, upon reflection
 
user3956566
To tell the OP not to include the API key in the question - should be made in a comment not an answer. The rest of your answer really is a link only answer and may be deleted — Yvette Colomb 29 secs ago
 
user3956566
In the meantime, I'm trying to work with the OP to the link only answer - to try and get a decent question out of it. English is a big barrier I think
 
8:32 AM
I noticed. I struggled myself to understand.
 
^ OP asking same question twice
 
user3956566
@Bugs yeh, it takes time. It's unfortunate - there's so many of these cases
 
Am already down to last 10 cvs
 
@suraj There is a confusion, but do note mods do not make any difference (they will not decline a vlq, since you should flag naa vice versa), if they do they know hell is waiting for them on meta :D, so to me more then thinking what flag to raise, use them differently depending on their different function. Hence if you think OP can edit and it becomes an answer flag VLQ (I normally do this for link only and sometimes for foreign language). If OP edit can't save the post NAA (me too, thanks)
 
8:45 AM
 
user3956566
 
@YvetteColomb I voted to reopen.
 
user3956566
@suraj ah k thanks, I wanted a second opinion before I voted
 
Thanks \o
 
@YvetteColomb Still has " please tell me how can I do it."
 
user3956566
8:55 AM
that was my concern - but the linked question and the details within the OP's code - should be sufficient
 
user3956566
I hope
 
@AndrasDeak yw :D
not sure what the thanks was for, but nice to see you in SOCVR
 
user3956566
yeh, who was the thanks to @AndrasDeak? @PetterFriberg lapped it all up :D
 
@YvetteColomb attempted to clear up the question a little. If I've made any silly mistakes let me know.
@AndrasDeak you're welcome, anytime :D
 
user3956566
@Bugs I appreciate it, thanks :D
 
9:02 AM
@YvetteColomb yw
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg lol
 
user3956566
we have a gratitude parasite in the room
 
@PetterFriberg thanks xD
@YvetteColomb np :)
 
user3956566
@Bugs yw :)
 
user3956566
two can play at this game @PetterFriberg
 
9:04 AM
:D, yeah lets fill the transcript
 
Morning @everyone!
 
@PetterFriberg I'm ducking out before things get out of hand :D
 
user3956566
\0
 
Ruined the train before it even started xD
@DragandDrop o/
 
user3956566
9:05 AM
@Bugs don't you mean hopping out ?
 
@YvetteColomb well that would make more sense :D why didn't I think of that?
 
user3956566
@Bugs I dunno, duck envy? Unresolved conflict with Daffy?
 
It's all this rubber duck debugging xD
 
Morning everyone :)
 
o/
 
9:10 AM
\o
 
user3956566
@Bugs :D
 
@Bugs, I give up! They broke our train every time. We just can't have nice thing.
 
@DragandDrop Yeah not me this time :D no trains leaving this station today, there's been a pile up
 
@YvetteColomb to whom it may concern. You get a thanks! And you get a thanks! EVERYBODY GETS A THANKS!!!
 
@AndrasDeak something tells me I am missing something
 
user3956566
9:26 AM
@AndrasDeak you're the Oprah of SOCVR
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto ^ isnt that too broad (gimme the code) ?
 
yeah I agree, or unclear (not really off-site request)
 
Could also be lacking MCVE ^
 
@suraj Looks like GMTC, but sounds like OP want someone pulling external resource for his JSON & also lack of MCVE...
 
@Bugs I went unclear :D
 
9:34 AM
@PetterFriberg Yeah that would work too :)
 
I don't really like resource request, if you maybe could answer without it, now that is unclear to me on that question
 
Any reference where I can learn about converting excel vb in vb access is what got me for request and I wrote this code but get an error: is what got me for missing MCVE. how to define rng as range in excel could be too broad so I guess unclear would fit also.
I also think the answer assumed VB.NET so is going to probably struggle here as they aren't using VB.NET
 
@DragandDrop unclear.. only thing I can tell is OP is asking for some theme
And I am out of close votes
 
@suraj, never mind It's from telerik tag.. Nothing get close there. I leave this tag 1 years ago. Dont know how this question end up in my daily Watch.
 
well no point in retracting now.. cant reuse that vote
 
9:45 AM
We should have vote refill or Something I got tired of taging things on low freq tag.
 
Shall we close this? => What case is This_Variable?. Seems there is no answer exactly fit the naming convention at this time.
 
heh.. will reviewers get paid too if this happens?
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto not sure, if there is not that is an answer, I would just carry on to something worse.
 
10:19 AM
Could also be closed as a request for offsite resource ^
OP has since unaccepted the answer so either or would be a suitable closure
Closed
 
10:43 AM
Hey peeps
This question has an answer from the community wiki, as well as two much less informative answers (which appear to have been made after the better answer.) How do you suggest this kind of thing be handled? stackoverflow.com/questions/25445439/…
 
@JackParkinson What's the problem with that? Why do think this needs to be handled in some way?
The best answer is at the top, so all seems in order to me.
 
So we just leave the bum answers? Okay. Just checking (y)
 
If the answers are incorrect you downvote.. If it is spammy or plagiarized then put the right flags.otherwise I dont see the issue
 
If you find them not useful, feel free downvote. If you suspect plagiarism, raise a mod-flag.
 
11:19 AM
@RiggsFolly it's also a repost stackoverflow.com/q/45375728
 
11:30 AM
Morning
 
it's also a scary piece of code
 
@Fred-ii- I was scared from the time I saw tag
 
@Nkosi lol!
 
11:41 AM
I'm a huge fan of John Finnemore's and happened across this sketch against last night... Goldish invented programming apparently :)
 
hey @JonClements did you see your sock puppet? lol
 
@Nkosi yeah... saw that name come up ages ago :)
 
ok. :)
 
They can't even be bothered to spell the name correctly or even be the right species... it's a poor effort :p
 
@SmokeDetector mod flagged
 
12:16 PM
Why are people like this??
 
They don't understand the system and think posting again is the right thing to do. It got missed and was only caught due to the OP posting an exact copy of their answer.
 
Very odd...
 
Frustrating to say the least.
 
@Bugs Could be attempted rep farming (repost a good question and answer in an attempt to earn that rep again)
 
There is an easier way to rep farm.. Aka the bug reporter.
 
12:29 PM
@LunarWatcher not the way I'd go about it but then again I'm 3.5k so what do I know xD
 
I'm 3.2k, rep doesn't matter
 
No it's not been a high priority to me either
 
Having watched some 6 digit users at work, there are way faster ways to get da repz. =D
 
I would like to get up to 3k to be able to actually access review queues :P
 
3k in Python should be doable, quit slacking in chat and get to work. :P
 
12:34 PM
:D
 
@DragandDrop Get some magic rep seeds from an authorised herbologist... Make sure you get some decent soil and a large pot. Keep well watered and fed and don't expose to too much sunlight... and then watch it grow! :)
 
Python is my go-to, but I don't use it at work so don't spend much time on it - should be able to spend more time in python when I'm back in uni (since I'll be teaching it too)
 
@JonClements I hope those were "magic dog seeds" that you were leaving on the lawn
 
@Machavity Of course... and "magic water" for the plant beds...
 
12:37 PM
Also, a lot of recent python questions seem to be related to numpy or pandas, of which I've only used the former fleetingly - if I looked into those I might do better too.
 
@JonClements, I create a SO account each time I switch job. Rep do not matter for me.
 
It tends to come if you just use the site as intended anyway... so meh...
 
user8063991
DoggyBot online. Woof woof!
 
why is my bot here now?
//unsummon
 
user8063991
@LunarWatcher poof
 
dur
12:48 PM
@Fred-ii- OP has edit the post. Is that a MCVE? Looks like.
 
@dur what's the url?
:38411725 I don't see an edit, just a pending edit stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/16884675 with no revisions.
 
@dur I remember that one, but not going to bother spending debugging time that they need to do.
it's also a rabbit hole, careful ;)
@dur If you look at their comment here... you will see that anything they do to the db's schema won't help them. The problem is with their concatenation and it's failing. Coding blindly without error reporting which would have thrown them an error about it.
 
dur
@Fred-ii-: That's the one you voted as cannot reproduce, right? I'm no PHP programmer, so I can't decide. I was looking at the no MCVE (stackoverflow.com/q/45415132/1415724), but posted the wrong URL.
 
@dur yeah, the one I commented above is a typo.
that other one, is anybody's ballgame, just not mine ;)
 
@NathanOliver We really should not allow two language-tags for a question! Or put such questions into a review queue for 3-10k+ users before presenting after asking the poster if he really wants to have both tags.
 
@Olaf meh. There are a lot of valid questions that are tagged with multiple languages. It just needs to be voted closed as unclear until the OP fills in the holes.
 
@Olaf the immediate problem there is that a tag is just that - a tag. There's not context about whether it's a language, a library or a tool or.... whatever... let alone if the tags even make any sense in context together...
 
@NathanOliver Not for C and C++. Of course that does not help if you have a user who permanently adds both tags to a question.
 
@Olaf I've seen valid C and C++ questions. Generally they ask what in the standard causes the behavior to be different, or why the languages differ on a particular feature.
 
1:37 PM
@JonClements Immanent: yes. But that would be easy to solve: primary tags and secondary tags. Languages are primary tags. And I did not say "no two languages". Just ask for confirmation and let users review before posting. That would also instantly reduce those tag-spam questions with 5 different languages.
@NathanOliver Those questions are msot often about one of the languages. The user is just not aware they are distinct languages, hence compiles e.g. C code with a C++ compiler and wonders why it does not work. I'm fine with such questions being tag-reviewd before actually being released into the wild.
True double-tag questions are quite rare actually.
 
@Olaf there's been FRs around for ages re: hierarchical tags and other ways to categorise/organise tags...
 
@Olaf I think it'd be simpler and easier to just start with a pile of the top 40 languages and prevent users from including certain combinations of them on a question.
 
1:53 PM
@Fred-ii- Edited for grammar
 
@TylerH for which one?
 
@Fred-ii- the one I replied to
 
ok I saw it
yeah, I didn't know what they meant by that. thanks
 
To be honest I had to make my best guess, but I also think it's irrelevant to the question at hand
 
@TylerH their original: "This problem in show in now not be available from a week ago" - to me, suggests that they're probably also wanted to add code/modify the schema to query "if something was a week ago", but... hard to say really. My vtc as unclear wasn't based on how they didn't write that out in proper English grammar, but in light of what I thought what they meant by that. I didn't want to put words in their mouths, which is why I asked for clarification, but I deleted my comment.
 
2:00 PM
I know it is not advised to ask for reviewing old questions, but if somebody has some spare close votes, please vote for questions at [tag:knowledge-management] here -- https://stackoverflow.com/search?page=1&tab=Relevance&q=%5bknowledge-management%5d%20closed%3ano
They are off-topic mostly
 
@Fred-ii- That's fair, I'll sneak that back in
 
@TylerH But, after seeing your edit for it, I feel you nailed it. So, I guess I was wrong about my thinking they wanted to query for something "from a week ago". It could have been that (too) you know lol!
 
either way I doubt the question will survive long without some TLC from the OP
 
could swing either way actually
yeah, I'll just leave it and let them deal with the answer provided
 
2:16 PM
Someone must be fuming right about now. (a repost)
 
2:29 PM
I made some poached eggs over the weekend. They were tasty.
 
@Compass I made some puff pastry steak pies owo
 
they just asked me what parts have errors; pretty much all of it.
 
@TylerH How to realise it is a secondary problem. My main point is the preselection.
 
some should really not post in the answers area, up until they can truly outline problems with code and not just say that it's not working and that their code failed. Facepalm
 
2:46 PM
steak. pies. yum :3
Is today a chicken day? Hmm.
 
Apparently we have a strong community wanting low-quality questions: too broad due to tag-spam, unclear (due to missing/spammed tags), no mcve. Yes dump the C tag.
 
Today is chicken day for me, I'm having baked thigh fillets and savoury fried rice :3
 
Thigh and mighty sandwich? Hmmm!
2
I need to buy some shishito peppers and just burninate them.
 
3:14 PM
 
3:34 PM
D... do we actually delete incorrect answers?
 
I don't think so
An answer being incorrect isn't a deletion reason
 
It's a gray area. I do on occasion where there is no chance that it is going to be salvagesd. Generally though you should just down vote it.
 
If it is low quality AND incorrect that is something else
low quality and correct is something else from that again
Being incorrect is not a deletion reason, have flagged some I thought were low quality and got the reply that flags are not used for answers that have technical inaccuracies or completely wrong
 
From the 20K help file When should I vote to delete an answer? You may vote to delete answers in the following cases: The answer is extremely low quality: There is little to no scope for improvement. The answer doesn't attempt to answer the question; it may be a comment or a separate question altogether.
 
@LunarWatcher well in practice anything you want is a valid deletion reason, that's the point of having multiple people required for it, and allowing people to undelete it after it's deleted
 
3:41 PM
blep
 
of course in this room we can restrict requests to more prescribed reasons
 
It's cold in this room.
 
@Compass excellent, it's still warm outside
@LunarWatcher but that request should also be tagged 20K because that's a requirement for deleting answers...
 
@NathanOliver If it tries to answer the correction, but features for an instance outdated information, the content is wrong but it tries to answer
 
I am in a planning meeting. Once that is over, I will go outside and flop on the grass. Hopefully not into some goose poop.
 
3:44 PM
@Compass Apparently getting pooped on by a bird is good luck to some people
 
Mazui.
 
@LunarWatcher Then I would not delete that but down vote it. I'm talking about when someone answers a question where the problem is they are not creating the object right and someone answers you need to flush the buffer for it to print right.
 
Didn't think of it like that, in those cases it would be right to delete them
 
@NathanOliver You should try using jQuery
 
And unclear
 
4:33 PM
@Compass No, we don't delete wrong answers, they should be downvoted and have a comment explaining why they're wrong: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/345023/…
 
ah I was just wrestling with them and wondering whats going on - cheers for the share
 
Yeah, been driving me nuts. Wasn't listing some recent pull requests I was trying to review
 
My hunger is hungry
 
4:48 PM
got me a sock puppet, now I need to find their other account which posted the same question twice under that other one
 
steps into the g-force simulator and presses the eye-blast option. OwO
 
I can't find anything on Google using similar code used in a question posted by a sock puppet. Is it because they deleted their other account?
 
ugh :| flashbacks to pre-med
 
@Compass tummy inception
 
@Fred-ii- we never promised sock-puppet hunting would be easy ...
 
5:02 PM
@rene lol, no eh? oh well, I'll just leave it.
 
Remember how hard it was to find the serial downvoter.
It's been a month and still missing that rep :(
 
Twitter blocked
is it a funny or a not funny
If it is a funny, I would like to know the funny :V
 
well, when Google fails, there's always my own memory; a repost using the same reserved word in mysql
 
5:11 PM
and I closed that one too
 
> This is what happens when you force push to master
 
I just had a "fun" 45 minutes removing a virus sent to one of my users because someone else's email got hacked :|
 
uggh
 
Day 1, still hungry. Haven't eaten since breakfast.
Suspicious dot tk link, I don't trust it.
 
@NathanOliver You are delusional. Malware does not really exist. How do I know? Every single SO OP who asks about dodgy/immoral/illegal coding says they are white-hats or are only asking for 'educational priposes'. Nobody is developng malware, so it does not exist.. ;)
 
5:17 PM
:)
Sorry, I spent 45 minutes removing the goodware
 
quick reference. I recently moved over to chrome and tampermonkey. I copied the userscripts i had on FF. They work. Was just curious if they would auto update or would I have to monitor them and the project to make sure I have to most recent version of the script
 
Why is it called malware and not badware?
 
@NathanOliver I've had that misery before too:(
 
@Compass maladjusted to the way their clothes fit?
 
@Compass because it is worse than bad, it is malicious (well, some is)
 
5:20 PM
@Compass ...because it's malicious - it intends to do harm. 'badware' is what other developers deliver to customers.
 
@Nkosi i think by default scripts will not auto-update. don't know if there is an option for that. you'll need to monitor the scripts to get a newer version, but some scripts (like the cv generator) will notify you itself about a newer version.
 
@gunr2171 sweet. I remember that from FF but wasn't sure how it worked on chrome
 
5:51 PM
@SmokeDetector oh snap, moderator action by Michael Myers
haven't ever seen him actually do a mod action before
 
@gunr2171 FF/Greasemonkey does update automatically for me
 
@gunr2171 can you manually move this joke cv-pls to the graveyard chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=33378857#33378857 ? It will never be picked up by the script since it doesn't link to a question
 
</whistles>
 
thanks nathan
currently busy, guess why
 
MEETINGS \o/
 
5:55 PM
ALL DAY!!!
 
bring your laptop
don't pay attention
cv all the things
...
 
and pocket food
 
profit
 
1 - yes,
2 - yes
3 - not yet
 
In fact pretty much all of page 3 is results that need to be cleaned up by hand
@EJoshuaS It might be more productive to wait for a response from OP before asking for CVs
You left a comment asking for clarification less than 5 mins ago
 
5:57 PM
@EJoshuaS have to wonder about their member name. wonder what they'll create after the keep soaking the system, stack0892? stack0893?
 
@TylerH I don't have any requests on page 3, or 2. I wonder what the difference is.
 
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