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2:01 PM
Now we have to reset the counter.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do hate resetting the counter. That "0 days without an incident" is almost as soul-crushing as having to write CSS or Ruby.
ugh the retail version of M&M X doesn't seem to be steam enabled
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bullshit Incident?
but it's twice as cheap as the steam version
but I want it on steam :(
@Sofffia It started off amazing. Then, like everything, it went a bit baffling over the years. There's a spin-off movie coming soon though.
2:02 PM
/firstworldproblems
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wonder whether Puppy has heard of the A Team
is my goto BS??? I feel offended now, I manage software with 2m of lines with goTo's everywhere
Command /firstworldproblems not found
maybe I'll wait for a discount on steam and get it then
2:03 PM
@AngeloMoreira 2 meters?
~ that 2.13 meters
I am a tall guy
break, you guys do not miss-behave
Markdown is hard.
@R.MartinhoFernandes TIL about monotone
2:09 PM
wow, I just had to remove tags from a question's title... and realised that I haven't done that in months. that all kinda stopped, huh
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Feel free to make up (d)." AKA my primitive low level C suffered a typical off-by-one error.
Please, let the counter run.
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh oh oh, BSG reference?
fuck you java
2:15 PM
@thecoshman o.O ?
rly
@thecoshman No?
It's a widespread meme.
X days without Y.
17 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@AngeloMoreira It was a fair run of 60 days without a mention of the Bullshit Incident.
A snowclone.
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Is there a way to deduce a data member's type from it's initializer in the constructor?
Not unless you initialise it directly with the right type.
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Directly?
Using a copy or move ctor, instead of any other ctor.
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2:19 PM
hmm
Just consider initialising a member with the default ctor.
It's impossible to uniquely deduce that type.
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struct Foo {
    auto bar;
    Foo() : bar(function_returning_complicated_type()) {
    }
}
Give it an alias
Actually, scratch that.
@Ell That seems like it should.
But I'm expecting it not to.
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2:24 PM
@Sofffia it doesn't work
but I mean, this is what I want to do
struct yep_you_can_always_deduce_it_as_me {
    template <typename AnythingBitch>
    yep_you_can_always_deduce_it_as_me(AnythingBitch&& you_can_construct_me_with_anything) {}
};
@Ell Oh you meant in current C++?
Nope.
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yeah in c++14
I assumed you assumed it was not possible and were wondering if there was a technical reason.
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I did assume it wasn't possible in the form I posted above, but wondered if there was a trick to it
I'll just have to use std::function
You can always use decltype.
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2:26 PM
Not with lambda expressions though, right?
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah well, I've started recently :P
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I don't like how branches aren't shown on their own visual branch with git log if their parent branch has no commit ahead of it
I don't like deleting old branches either and idk if that's good or not.
@Ell it's fine, presuming you mean branches that have been merged in.
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@thecoshman yeah
@Ell I use git log --all --one-line --graph --decorate most of the time.
'one-line' might not be quite right...
2:41 PM
@Ell Well, because there's no branching involved?
Displaying a branch-y thing where no divergence exists would be misleading.
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Meh, I don't think so. You've branched, you just haven't merged in yet
There's no merge.
It's a fast-forward.
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Not if I want to git merge --no-ff :P
which I always do. I don't understand why you'd want to fast forward?
doesn't that eliminate the point of branching in the first place?
Branches in Git are weirder than with other VCS.
But there's no actual divergence vOv
2:45 PM
what is "relational algebra" supposed to be? It seems like just SQL with mathy notation
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@R.MartinhoFernandes why not? :S
you're diverging from the commit from when you branched
@corvid It is the mathematical apparatus on which SQL is based.
@Ell Only in the same manner as you diverge from the previous one every time you commit.
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yeah
I'd still call that divergence :P especially if it's in a new branch
@Ell So? It's not due to having a branch, then.
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2:48 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's not due to it, but why would you make a branch if you just wanted to fast forward?
if not to semantically separate a set of commits
which is a reason to "diverge" imho
@Ell You're assuming too much.
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idk really, I'm not good at git but I wish I could see branches (even if they are fast forwards) shown to diverge
Also, would that really help? "Am I on master? Nope? Then I'm... no longer on master..."
What information are you really missing?
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It's less confusing for me :P
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh man, don't you just wish
2:54 PM
@Ell No
--no-ff is fine though
@Ell not if the point of branching is to give you a private environment in which to work, isolated from commits made by the rest of the team. When you push your changes, you just want them stacked on top of the master branch, the branch was just a temporary implementation detail
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I guess yeah
@jalf Doesn't have to be master. You can have more than one person working on one feature branch.
> we saw with certainty that "backup" is not a verb. It's simply not.
Gosh.
Begging the question so much.
3:02 PM
> Despite what many people --mostly in the computer field-- think, "backup" is not a verb.
Nevermind what people use I KNOW BETTER
@R.MartinhoFernandes sure, it was just an example :)
Prescriptivism is dumb
This person is dumb
tl;dr he has no idea you generally put a space between the different parts of a phrasal verb.
> Despite what many people --mostly in the computer field-- think, "workout" is not a verb.
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buy guys off to work
3:03 PM
lol
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still got 30mins at work
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wanna go hoooome
@CatPlusPlus It's not even that.
I like how it goes with "people use that" and then argues about something that nobody ever says
Get fuckuped idiot
3:04 PM
@Xeo Get homegonned.
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That was horrible.
Worst kind of ridiculous OCD nerd made that website
> the behavior of the two regular verb types in the American language
> the American language
3:07 PM
> American language
what a productive way to spend your time
making websites like that
> Americanlish
> America
ugh, heading home in a minute, and it's pissing down :(
I wonder how he wants us to say stupid things like "I logged in".
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3:10 PM
Ohey, another Grube mail.
@Griwes I have performed the action wrongly labeled as "logging in"
you have to do it like that
@AlexM. Being (just a little) fair about it: the web site certainly doesn't look like s/he spent much time on it.
IIRC there was this country that added "googling" as a verb in their dictionaries
Which is... ok?
Languages define dictionaries not vice versa
3:11 PM
People define languages.
@JerryCoffin now that you mention it...
to google is definitely a verb.
@Sofffia yes, I just stated it
etcorngods.com Trigger warning for depictions of intense stupidity.
I wonder what that guy would feel like if we threw those dictionaries at him
"look, someone made "to google" an official verb!"
@AlexM. It wasn't actually a country, but the Oxford English Dictionary added it years ago.
Do you guys have some nice movie to recommend?
Last movie I enjoyed was A Most Wanted Man.
3:14 PM
@Sofffia the new dracula! it's somewhat closer to the real character but it's still fantasy-ish. I'll go watch it on Friday I think
@Sofffia Friday the Thirteenth, part 13?
I wonder how they made Romania look like now
> In 1985 George R. Simpson, a notable engineer and inventor, was "visited" by extraterrestrial contact. He was told that there was a hidden language imbedded in the English language and that it was his job to determine the decoding rules for revealing the hidden meanings and teach the world about the hidden messages. Simpson has worked twenty-two years on this important project, first to uncover the code, then to document the decoding structure and translated messages.
And this, kids, is why you don't do drugs
@Sofffia We're sorry, you have to perform the action formerly known as Prince logging in to ask for more recommendations.
@CatPlusPlus little did he knew, that the code was JavaScript
3:16 PM
@JerryCoffin Stahp it Quora.
@CatPlusPlus I dunno. Being devoted to a life's work (no matter how silly) might make him happy.
> I got a non-linguistics-specific version of one of these last week from a guy asking for money to create his inventions, which include a "cure for psychiatry", an equation that might replace E=mc2, and... apparently suing every lawyer in New York.
I think I am way past my dosage for today.
aaaaaa im merging two divergent databases agaain
> On one of his blogs (he has like 8 blogs) he says he can prove:
(...)
An unexplained “silent treatment” from American females (no dates or conversations or eye contact from girlfriend or marriage-quality females in my 46 years of life).
@R.MartinhoFernandes That does sound pretty insane--psychiatry is obviously incurable.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Inconceivable!
3:22 PM
"marriage-quality females" did this guy get abducted by the Ferengi?
@thecoshman Gosh, gotta love those headlines. Right on the first paragraph it says it's not everybody. That's why they thought important to make clear that it really is everybody in the headline.
@TheForestAndTheTrees They wouldn't bother abducting somebody with puny lobes like his!
Fuck journalists.
3:27 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No. No we did not. But at this close range, who could miss?
My favourite is "Quantity of Books v. Kansas".
> United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls
Wat.
@R.MartinhoFernandes There is undoubtedly some deeper meaning to the fact that I clicked only one of the links (and that was it).
> The claimant initially stated that the case was titled incorrectly as the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission had not been named on the caption. The court dismissed this as without merit, pointing out that Section 9 of the FHSA stated that all proceedings regarding enforcement would be done in the name of the United States.
Nothing wrote with that title, sir.
@R.MartinhoFernandes No thanks; might catch something.
3:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you want another #GamerGate incident m8?
4:00 PM
Drupal tries: database-side sequences
mysql> select * from sequences;
+---------+
| value   |
+---------+
| 7051229 |
+---------+
1 row in set (0,00 sec)
What a nice sequence.
@R.MartinhoFernandes hype sells everything!
@CatPlusPlus it's a list of one... that's still a list :S
I thought once Drupal might be workable
nope
4:17 PM
FYI, noob hints link down
No it's not?
Oh pin
Don't fucking scare me
Read the fabulous rules!
14
Ergh... I've got to payup for server renewal soon
After this fucking Drupalday I can't come up with any jokes to go with that link
4:22 PM
you've got irony covered at least.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but sarcasm is considered being Ironic, no?
~ time
Bad idea: clicking 'copy all to clipboard' in PuTTy while session is doing a thing
@thecoshman No.
4:41 PM
Holy shit, get the fuck out of my house already.
Amen
You're drunk jef
Friends of my mum were in my home. I hate these ones.
Talking bad about everyone else.
@CatPlusPlus no threat of puppy's wrath this time?
4:43 PM
Even my neighbours
Neighbours suck
My neighbors are perfectly fine.
Mostly old men and women.
wow you can sort the forum view by users in dicsourse
useful
dicsource was unintentional but now I like it more
as a name
and then I am the one drunk, everybody
Irish I were drunk
4:45 PM
wat
I keep desynchronizing today
the new assassin's creed looks great
given how focused on story it is, it definitely reminds me of AC2
Thanks. Unfortunately I didn't have any cables to connect my laptop to my iMac and I ended up erasing the disk. In the case of the bad HDD's at your job, is it usually a hardware problem and you just replace it? Or do you manage to save them somehow? — Bart 3 hours ago
whoops?
I'll play it with French voiceovers, it will feel more legit like that
similar to AC2 and Italian
Good job on making backups after the drive went critical
also people went crazy when they found out the new AC will run at 900p on next (current?) gen consoles
i.e. not 1080p
"I bought the Xbawks One to play 1080p games, where is my 1080p!!!"
4:50 PM
haha consoles
3
Okay
Enough work for today
dat nissan
or is it a porsche
hard to say
@LightnessRacesinOrbit speaking of supercars... did you hear clarkson got rocks thrown at him in Argentina?
@Mgetz everybody heard
@Mgetz They can't afford to throw eggs there.
5:00 PM
@AlexM. It's a Lamborghini Aventador.
not that one!
the one behind it
:A
I would have said "nice roadsigns" but that would have been too obvious and lame
Ever wondered how many spiders have rubbed their dicks against the cup you drink from at night?
5:05 PM
> Plone 4 now stores all file and image data on the file system rather than in one big database file.
CMSes
are
bad
Would std::power_set be a good idea?
relatively little use cases
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nope.
If you guys have an illumination about how to go with this, I'm :allears:.
5:09 PM
it'll also be kind of awkward to implement with just a pair of iterators + an output iterator
Why doesn't stuff work in Markdown?
Oh, it does in chat markdown but not github markdown
how convenient
``stuff``
user1804599
What is a BunchA?
wow a blogpost about Rust's amazing ownership on the front page of reddit
it's just RAII and it isn't even new
user1804599
Rust's move semantics are rather neat, though.
@rightføld Yeah apparently the object is in an invalid state in Rust after moving if I'm understanding correctly.
5:16 PM
(It's not "just RAII")
So it gives a compile-time error
user1804599
Yeah.
@R.MartinhoFernandes You mean the 'borrowing' and 'lending' thing?
@Rapptz I really like named lifetimes.
this doesn't go over that
or I missed it
5:19 PM
Yeah, I just noticed.
user1804599
@Rapptz TIL try!. Thanks.
It stops dead right at the point where the compiler errors out because you need that feature.
this just seems like RAII, move semantics, and references to me
move.rs:8:15: 8:19 error: missing lifetime specifier [E0106]
That's where named lifetimes come in.
yeah I figured
5:21 PM
@rightføld A typo.
It also doesn't seem to go over the really cool bits about borrowing and lending.
I can see why you got that idea from it.
It really seems to stick to the stuff we have in C++.
Reddit made me disinterested in Rust anyway.
Also, "never having to close a socket" is not the best choice of an example.
'Nimrod' was renamed to 'Nim' a while back
but if you search on google for 'Nim language' you get no results
but 'Nimrod language' does
I can see closing sockets as something you may want to actively choose to do.
5:25 PM
good going
"experimentally you found" that compilers will happily compile your [Undefined Behaviour](). They're not required to emit diagnostics messages for the vast majority of such cases. — sehe 23 secs ago
Nimrod doesn't look good either
user1804599
Your mother doesn't look good.
Wouldn't know
What does "ability to [...] access the hardware directly" mean?
5:27 PM
@CatPlusPlus can you hear them even when they are sucking?
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't know.
That you can write an OS it? For which hardware?
of all the 'new' languages, Julia seems the coolest
user1804599
Gear ftw.
What's so interesting about it
5:28 PM
Julia?
It just seems cool in general, iunno.
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Guys
I need a food idea.
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@Rapptz Already had that... on Monday
I think
Maybe Sunday
Yeah, Sunday
Wait, isn't Monday today?
No, can't be.
Dammit.
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5:35 PM
Today's Tuesday
My sense of time is offset by +1 day
Feels like Wednesday to me
I blame the long weekend
What are you talking about?
Oh.
I should have slept more during the weekend.
Oh yeah.
I forgot you have to do copyright assignment to contribute to GCC.
That sounds like such a pain.
looks like a nice initiative
(hi)
evening
user1804599
inb4 X sucks
5:45 PM
bah
not having your own place sucks.
went for a viewing today and the agent was like, "Couldn't get the keys, sorry, piss off back to work"
Are you working from your parents' or commuting?
@Puppy lolwut
living in my sister's studio flat for the next few days.
@Puppy They had one job.
@jalf Pissing up is a bad idea.
5:49 PM
estate agents are worse than recruiters
at least recruiters are free
isn't there some kind of website with announcements and stuff that you could use to contact the owners directly?
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I never had to deal with agents
Or rather, I chose not to
Massage therapist, haha
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5:58 PM
Proposing
Does it require unanimity to pass?
I'll get homegonned now.

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