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6:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ well played.
 
@AndyProwl yeah a few, I'm cracking on them now
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I just noticed, SPIEL tickets cost 2eur more when preordering them online :<
 
TIL GCC 5.0 is being skipped
 
Xeo
6:03 PM
ye
11.50 (according to the website) vs 13.50 (online at your link)
 
I got the Dauer one.
 
@Rapptz straight to 6.0? :p
 
Xeo
also 2 eur more
 
5.1 apparently
 
6:04 PM
Er.
It doesn't list any option.
There's only one price for those.
 
Xeo
> Tageskarte für Erwachsene 11.50 EUR
> Tageskarte Erwachsener 13,50EUR
from your other link
 
care to explain? Btw, there is always a douchebag voting down. People have to know everything to come here and asking is punishable with down votes. — Desperate Developer 3 mins ago
 
That OP sounds desperate.
 
Oh well.
For me it's two euros in 29 plus the train plus my share of the flat.
 
@Rapptz So... 5.0 is "development", 5.1 is stable... Also what: "Starting with GCC 5 we will bump the major version number for each release."
 
6:18 PM
Browser model.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's not even the lowest voted question of the day.
 
@Mysticial SO jumped the shark, didn't it?
 
It would be this:
-15
Q: If value i is 1 in initially and we do ++i+(++i) expression the answer is 6 WHY?

Sasidhar RajuIf int i=1 printf("%d",++i+(++i)); output is 6 i didn't understand how i value become 6 in general we are doing increment for 2 time only. So, that answer should be 5 but it was getting 6 Why?????

Those tags... The OP was kinda asking for it...
 
under GCC post 5.0
 
@Rapptz I quoted from that page.
 
6:20 PM
k
 
not sure why that comment on reddit has a star
I posted that ironically because I thought the reddit poster was a moron :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol, hot questions list
 
@Rapptz stars don't necessarily mean support for the content. perhaps the starrer agreed with you?
@Mysticial :(:(:(:(:(:(:(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is that a thing?
 
6:21 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Most of us have one of two silly ones like that. :)
 
@LucDanton I think so.
 
Sorry, can't see what you're replying to on mobile.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'Browser model'
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Because people are bad at programming and most of them don't ever reach the level where they start having real problems (the ones that end up with 10-15 upvotes and 0-2 answers of which neither fully answers the question)?
 
Well, it's what the browsers do.
I don't wanna coin it.
 
6:23 PM
k
 
@Griwes no it's very rare for a question like that which is awful and has been posted millions of times to get to +35 within 22 hours
 
browser model superior
 
If I did, I'll go back in time, hack someone's account and post it on their behalf.
 
I think that "Browser model" is already a thing.
 
does it bug anyone else when you see the hot question list a question from WordPress Development that it looks like the Wikipedia favicon?
 
6:25 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Now it's rare. Back when I first joined, it would happen like twice a week.
 
exhibit A
 
Balanced Ternary... warning, it's unsettling.
 
@Mysticial Yes but that was in 1952 when there were only a few questions on the site.
@Rapptz hah, yeah a little. I'd forgotten that it bothered me but I suspect I briefly "remember" every time it happens, as I did just now
The miniature for Physics's logo looks like a combadge, too
 
@thecoshman tl;dw
 
I haven't used the multicollider in a while.
 
6:27 PM
binary dominant for a reason
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the multicollider has been dead for like 2 years man.
 
Binary dominant for two reasons.
@Rapptz well, whatever replaced it.
 
How does result_t<Functor, Args...> f(Functor functor, Args... args); look?
 
it should use auto
 
6:29 PM
it's so pretty
 
:p
 
Kinda feels like stuttering.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's the other one?
 
@Rapptz SFINAE yo
 
where?
 
6:29 PM
@LucDanton Like you forgot to call the Functor.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh?
 
@Rapptz f(0, 0)
 
@LucDanton static_assert(is_callable<Functor, Args...>{}, "my nicer error message here"); is what I do instead.
 
@Puppy Yes
 
6:31 PM
@DeadMG dunno. It was a joke.
 
@Rapptz Concepts yo (WIP).
 
who is this "DeadMG" you speak of
 
pls vote
 
k I’m the only one seeing the stutter, that’s alright then. Time to commit.
 
Fuck you.
Fuck mobile chat.
 
6:31 PM
@Puppy You ended that sentence with a preposition! Bastard.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Broken record.
 
I’m not the only one!
 
DeadMG has been speakoffed.
 
Do you attract bad questions or what, lightness?
 
6:33 PM
232
Q: Dealing with "Xerces hell" in Java/Maven?

justingarrickIn my office, the mere mention of the word Xerces is enough to incite murderous rage from developers. A cursory glance at the other Xerces questions on SO seem to indicate that almost all Maven users are "touched" by this problem at some point. Unfortunately, understanding the problem requires a...

TIL of this issue
 
@Xeo Unless, of course, you were referring to me :Þ
 
> It wanted to weave its web across the top of a garage, but the angle of the roof was too shallow for anchoring. So it did what any industrious spider would do — it suspended a rock to anchor the bottom of the web. io9.com/…
whoa
 
@Sofffia It's like I seek out the bad questions. (Translation: I go on SO)
 
@AlexM. lol gawker stealing from top posts on /r/pics
I can tell without clicking the link
 
I don't /r/pics so I wouldn't know
 
6:34 PM
Isn't that what all these websites do?
 
I have a spider in my room too, but unfortunately he doesn't seem to be that smart
 
It's a trap.
 
You don't want to draw attention until you have a strong position.
 
I don't click Gawker links out of principle.
 
6:35 PM
it's autumn though, and until late spring, there might be bugs loitering around (it always happens in the building, before, during, and after winter)
spiders are a welcome sight for me
 
Spiders do this all the time btw
 
You're many welcome sights for them.
 
So it's not anything special.
 
the bugs are weird as fuck though
 
Can one of you gold badge holders re-dupe this as the one I linked in the comments?
 
6:36 PM
Let alone to warrant an article from their supposed science based gawker site.
 
-1
Q: What are :16 :32 in structs within a union

Peng ZhangI am looking at some open-source code containing the following definition. typedef union { struct { unsigned type :16; } generic; struct { unsigned type :16; unsigned q_id :16; unsigned rq_id :32; ...

 
Slow day maybe.
 
like, they look like garden bugs and smell like them (e.g. stinkbugs)
 
All arthropodes are weird.
 
6:36 PM
they're not kitchen bugs
or what you would expect to find in an apartment block
 
Xeo
@LucDanton nah, the signature
 
and there's always just one of them in my apartment for weeks
I find one, I kill one, four weeks later I find another one
 
Xeo
The parameter names themselves didn't make it better, obviously :P
 
Long time no chat
 
but it's always just one
 
6:37 PM
heh
 
it's been like this for the past 2 years
and they go away in late spring
@Rapptz yes
 
hah.
terrible.
 
> Gerät außer Betrieb
Fuck you ATM.
 
@Rapptz Wait, I didn’t have to reply with concepts (right off the bat, anyway). What you’re doing isn’t even SFINAE. SFINAE isn’t for error reporting.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How could I help him without give him the answer? I didn't mean to give him answer directly but just cant figure out how to help him in this question without giving him the direct answer, if you know the better way, then it is my bad. — Ali Amiri 1 min ago
god what is wrong with people
this "must HALP at all costs" bullshit
 
Xeo
6:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey! It's just protecting you from losing 40eur.
 
> As you are fully aware, the stink bugs are back. Seeing that Vulcan Village is located in Western Pennsylvania and the buildings are flanked by plenty of woodland area, we are an attractive location for these insects to settle down for the upcoming winter.
 
@LucDanton Yeah I know. I know what you meant.
 
Shit, am I really the only gold badge holder in this room? Fuck...
 
I guess that explains it
 
Don't worry.
 
6:39 PM
Where's @Jerry? lol
 
the stinkbugs search for places to sit in during the winter
 
@Mysticial everyone else a avoids it.
I think many of us are close.
 
I'm at 45 x 8 in
 
@Rapptz :)
 
> If you find any in your apartment, simply pick them up with a tissue, and throw them away.
lol pick them up my ass, they also fly if given the chance
two bugs ago, I hit one so hard with a book, I split it in half
one half remained under the book, the other flew 1 meter away
 
6:40 PM
I'm at 794 x 193 in . Too high -.-
 
@CatPlusPlus are you high?
 
ooh, 14 shit answers on and I get a gold badge
 
> Two bugs ago
@Lightness slowpoke.
 
I'm close to my gold badge
lmao
1k x 192
:(
where'd the 1k come from!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's obvious that I need help writing the program. — Noor AIH 51 secs ago
 
6:43 PM
I was at 982 yesterday
 
rounds up innit
 
It's rounded?
 
when I hover over it, it shows 1005
 
rounded over your momma
 
I blame recalcs and voodoo when that happens.
 
6:44 PM
@Rapptz it's also slow on the uptake.
 
like your momma
 
well now I have to spam answers obv
 
go go go
not sure whether I can be arsed with pub
it's a different pub, one I'm not so fond of, that does a quiz on Tues
and one mate is going
they do have a ton of students that go in, which is nice. and it's drinking.
but i'm tired and it's cold out and i'm hungry and i thought maybe I could do some work tonight or somethinh
 
students are nice?
 
but wasting a possible night out?
 
6:46 PM
> Artificial lights interfere with an insect's ability to detect the moonlight. They appear brighter, and radiate their light in multiple directions. Once an insect flies close enough to a light bulb, it attempts to navigate by way of the artificial light, rather than the moon.
 
I did not expect this to be the reason
 
@Rapptz young boobs
 
but it makes sense now that I've read it
 
@AlexM. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
it always bugged me [sic] that they were attracted to lights. I was like, why the fuck would they try to fly into the sun??
 
6:47 PM
insects use the sun and moon to guide their flight
and our lights interfere with that
 
it's the biggest troll in the history of the planet when you think about it
really harsh
 
11
Q: What's the point of clothes?

LiathI'm developing a world with many different races, many of whom live in relative isolation. I'm trying to understand how the fashion of each cultures/species would evolve. In our world we're obsessed with clothes, the idea of walking around town without them is near unthinkable. However consider a...

 
Stupid ATM only has 50s. WTF is wrong today.
 
I wonder, can we accelerate or otherwise force the evolution of a species?
 
wut, somehow my vim managed to save a source file without chucking trailing whitespace like it’s supposed to :( (no crash)
 
6:49 PM
@thecoshman What?
 
can we make other animals smarter somehow?
 
^those are two separate questions
 
@AlexM. Did you not take evolution in school?
 
@Rapptz keep only the 2nd question in mind then
 
Impossible to answer.
 
6:51 PM
did we ever try to take some animals, teach them new tricks then release them in the wild?
 
"new tricks" being?
 
@Mysticial Sorry--was in a meeting.
 
Have you heard about dogs
 
@Rapptz I dunno, teaching gorillas how to make some tools out of stuff available in nature
 
@JerryCoffin I already fixed the title on the current dupe and approved a retag. So no AI needed. :)
 
6:53 PM
Teach gorillas to 3d print nutcrackers.
 
Primates are capable of using tools to crack nuts etc.
 
yeah I meant things other than those that they discovered on their own
 
Not sure what other benefit they'd receive from tool use unless you mean hunting, i.e. spear throwing etc.
 
that was the question
 
pls introduce penalty for those that don't vote
 
6:54 PM
0
Q: Disallow downvotes to answers of own question

MoosemanI've seen -- several times now -- users downvoting answers on their own questions because they simply lack the knowledge to use them. They leave comments such as "DOES NO WORK" or "Downvote!" I propose that the ability to downvote answers to your own questions be removed from the 125 rep vote do...

 
did we ever try to actively influence the development of other species like that
yeah, spears are a good example
 
Ever heard of dogs?
 
@AlexM. A lot of animals have been domesticated.
 
I don't mean taming them
 
@Rapptz Well if you teach engine breaking then they might save on fuel and brake use.
 
6:55 PM
(which is why I don't consider dogs to be an example of this)
 
@AlexM. I don't think you are aware of the definition of domestication.
Domestication (from Latin domesticus: "of the home") is the process whereby a population of living organisms is changed at the genetic level, through generations of selective breeding, to accentuate traits that ultimately benefit the interests of humans. A usual by-product of domestication is the creation of a dependency in the domesticated organisms, so that they lose their ability to live in the wild. This differs from taming in that a change in the phenotypical expression and genotype of the animal occurs, whereas taming is simply an environmental socialization/behavioral trait; the process...
 
Not quite tools but dogs can do a lot of work that goes against their original nature.
 
I was asking about savage species
 
@Mysticial Oops. Reopened, re-closed, fixed title on original to add the "struct" and "union" part to improve searchability.
 
A pointing breed is a type of gundog typically used in finding game. Gundogs are traditionally divided into three classes: retrievers, flushing dogs, and pointing breeds. The name pointer comes from the dog's instinct to point, by stopping and aiming its muzzle towards game. This demonstrates to the hunter the location of his or her quarry and allows them to move into gun range. Pointers were selectively bred from dogs who had abundant pointing and backing instinct. They typically start to acquire their hunting instincts at about 2 months of age. == History == The pointing breeds can be dated...
 
6:56 PM
> is changed at the genetic level
whoa
I did not know that
 
Yes, you did know about breeding.
 
Those dogs freeze when they find game instead of attacking it.
 
How didn't you know about breeding?
:p
@AlexM. This is called companionship btw.
 
so dogs are domesticated
and... pigeons in cities are tamed
because they don't avoid humans and eat the food you throw at them
 
@JerryCoffin That works too. :)
 
6:59 PM
btw
Selective breeding (also called artificial selection) is the process by which humans breed other animals and plants for particular traits. Typically, strains that are selectively bred are domesticated, and the breeding is normally done by a professional breeder. Bred animals are known as breeds, while bred plants are known as varieties, cultigens, or cultivars. The offspring of two purebreed animals but of different breeds is called a crossbreed, and crossbred plants are called hybrids. There are two approaches or types of artificial selection, or selective breeding. First is the traditional “breeder...
 
@Mysticial Yup--seems like all the changes ended up as useful improvements.
 
wiki: is coolest chat command
 

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