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:lol:
 
@TonyTheLion Right, so, "bigotry".
 
> It's easy to learn and has a lot of open-sources. Plus, there's also a lot of PHP developers who give away tips and advises
The grammar on that page is astounding
 
user1804599
At least he spelled “Mac OS X” correctly.
 
@sehe how did you upload the logos to the wiki? /cc @R.M
 
11:08 AM
@rightfold I think the NSA has a paid service to correct these
 
@BartekBanachewicz I did.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I didn't
 
There's an "Upload File" button on the left.
 
29 mins ago, by sehe
@R.MartinhoFernandes My entry is dated march 2012! http://downloads.sehe.nl/stackoverflow/logo/
 
@rightfold Circlejerk overflow.
 
11:11 AM
@sehe WTF at the 3rd point
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes okey, uploaded my entries
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
Lounge<Haskell>
 
Gee, I find out that I was just about as patient in 2011 as I'm now:
Allthough all of this is nice and enterprisey, it is not robust and is about as effective as shooting a mosquito using a canon — sehe Apr 27 '11 at 13:59
 
11:13 AM
Ermmm... then you're... (a) screwed (b) doing something wrong. 10,000 variables in a struct: you should be using a container. Also, look at serialization frameworks (they still don't print member names, but I think that is a design issue with your classes) — sehe Jul 8 '11 at 11:34
@BartekBanachewicz Actually, it was a toy logo once prompted by someone else in this lounge. Dunno who again
 
I like the metal effect
I should make mine into SVG but effort
 
I should probably add "Lounge" to make it square. But :effort:
 
@sehe oho, the robot required squares
not that mine really fits in a square
 
Just center it.
Also! NAMESPACES
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that would ruin my carefully picked composition
 
11:18 AM
Lounge_transparent.png is overstepping.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I fucked up the upload and didn't know how to change it
 
I'll fix it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, if being uncentered is part of it, what's the problem, then?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes artistics are overcharging the flux capacitor
 
11:20 AM
lol
To be fair, PHP isn't a programming language either. ducksWooble 2 mins ago
 
@rightfold NAMESPACE BITCHES
 
Apr 2 '13 at 22:18, by sehe
I don't even remember whom I made this for back then: http://downloads.sehe.nl/stackoverflow/logo/v2.png, ~precisely 1 year ago
Back then, IIRC only opera rendered the SVGs with full effects
 
chrome doesn't render all the shebangs even now
@R.MartinhoFernandes his lower text is too long by one pixel
now you can't unsee
 
<muffled-voice>Opera FTW</muffled-voice>
 
> Database error

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.
I broke MediaWiki
I guess this means my test was unsuccessful.
 
11:23 AM
I think the logo should be :getin:
BTW @R.M are we gonna see your entry too? :3
 
I think rightfolds' is the most straightforward win a.t.m.
 
> There will be a vote at some point.
 
So, here's another PSA: AFAIK MediaWiki does not allow one to upload into folders. Anyone uploading files into the wiki: please namespace any files by prefixing them with a unique identifier (suggestion: username), C-style.
 
I've learned that people have really broad range of opinions here
 
Using the global namespace is murder.
 
11:26 AM
Hence using mediawiki is murder
 
> 3. Will be keen on Serial Voting (As a victim of serial downvoting, I need to do that !) Insta-fail
 
East and Southeast Asia doesn't know or doesn't like Stack Overflow.
I guess.
Thought it could simply be that they don't like to answer the surveys.
 
If SE ever care about their bandwidth, they should make Cat++ a mod, he will tell all newbs to "get out!"
 
I think you're confusing him with a puppy
 
11:39 AM
both of them can be mods, Cat will ask the newbs to "get out", puppy will just delete their accounts
 
On the upside as an additional benefit we can anticipate jolly frog-gifs with that
 
@TonyTheLion why was that not starred?
 
woo new timetable
woo thursday free
unprecedented
 
11:43 AM
/why/
 
downloads SO survey data
How many years of IT/Programming experience do you have? First reponse: 06/10/2014.
Well done.
 
OMG and another classes with my favourite teacher
 
(It's 6-10, but it was treated as a date by god knows who)
 
can't wait
it's gonna be awesome
whatever this subject is about if I will have classes with her it will be awesome
 
@BartekBanachewicz Fuck you and your happiness.
 
11:45 AM
@sehe because no one looked at it
 
I'm not sure I want the "mystery" reward from Robot
 
how do I call something that is in double quotes? like instead of using 97 dec for character a, I used 'a' what do you name that way of calling a character?
 
When does the contest end?
 
11:50 AM
@Daniel character literal (single quotes) 'a', string literal (double quotes) "abc"
 
thanks
 
@Jefffrey Dunno. Whenever we get the entries from everyone who wants to chime in.
 
hm really doesn't look that bad
I can have either thursday or tuesday free
and I won't prolly have to go to all of the remaining classes either
 
Ell
ITT Bartek has his TILF
 
@Ell hm?
uh. no.
 
11:55 AM
'Timetable I'd Like to Follow'?
 
It's just finally someone that isn't a total dumbfuck
@MartinJames lol
 
Ell
@martin that was quick! I like your whit
 
man, I like this timetable
I can do 3x8 hours and be done with work
 
@Ell Can't imagine what else it could mean:)
 
Ell
You never fail to make me laugh martin :')
@Bartek are you still working at Intel?
 
11:57 AM
@Ell yep
 
@BartekBanachewicz Wait what? 14 hours/week?
 
@Griwes I have pick either one of (ALT) and the ones marked (/2) are once every 2 weeks
 
@MartinJames T for Teacher.
 
@BartekBanachewicz so... 12hrs/week? o.O
 
@Griwes I counted 11, so something like that yea
but for example I was on 3 from like 10 project classes previous semester
introduction, mid-sem, turn-in
 
11:59 AM
@BartekBanachewicz ಠ_ಠ
 
@Ell It's either laugh or cry. I have another intermittent bug report:( At two sites, printers attached to networked keypads do not work on some days. The keypad code is legacy C and is just apalling. I just don't want to go in there.
 
@BartekBanachewicz infeka.co.vu/bhhriy7z4kn
 
poor Bartek ... even cat graduated ...
 
@Griwes that's not much either
cut out the lectures and you're done
 
@BartekBanachewicz The thing is, I am not sure how much of those lectures I want to cut out.
 
12:01 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I want to chime in. I'll give one by the end of the week. :)
 
@Griwes I haven't been to a lecture since 2nd sem
I always feel asleep
 
@BartekBanachewicz No obligatory lectures either? Lucky you.
 
waste of time
 
@Jefffrey What are you giving the robot?
 
@Griwes of course not
 
12:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz OIC
 
that
 
math::array<double, 3, 4, 2> a {
     1.f,  2.f,  3.f,  4.f,      5.f,  6.f,  7.f,  8.f,      9.f, 10.f, 11.f, 12.f,
    13.f, 14.f, 15.f, 16.f,     17.f, 18.f, 19.f, 20.f,     21.f, 22.f, 23.f, 24.f,
};
Not sure if this is worth it.
Also, oops, double.
 
man, but it really feels nice to have a reasonable timetable
phew.
 
Hmm.
Overriding operator new for a particular class doesn't really work well.
 
@Griwes I've never seen obligatory lectures in higher education
 
12:08 PM
Gosh, this part of the language is so broken.
 
Why are down in the swamps?
I'd feel allocators should have more options in c++11?
 
Things like std::allocator use operator new directly, and an overridden operator new for a class is only used if you don't use operator new directly.
How broken.
 
@sehe Happy you. Heck, our uni regulations state that, by default, all lectures are obligatory... but well, most of lecturers don't give a crap. And those who do are, obviously, the worst lecturers out there :F
 
Wrong priorities
 
Manual operator new + placement new just goes around that.
 
user1804599
12:10 PM
I am going to learn more about linear algebra today.
 
@rightfold oho
 
Maybe I could specialise std::allocator...
No.
make_unique uses new directly.
EVERYTHING IS BROKEN I DON'T WANNA
 
Erm. Why do you want to override the allocation mechanism on make_unique?
 
@sehe Because the standard allocation mechanism is broken by design.
It completely ignores extended alignment types.
 
12:15 PM
o.O extended alignment types.
You shut me up quick :S
 
I have one option that solves the problem generally, but it is intrusive and overstepping and wasteful.
Override global operator new and forcibly over-align everything.
 
I really want to avoid it.
But it seems it's either that or case-by-case handling.
 
Do you mean that struct alignas(16) sse_t { float sse_data[4]; }; auto oops = make_unique<sse_t>(); doesn't honour alignas?
 
ooh.
> A preprocessor for Ruby that adds some Haskell-like syntax
 
12:17 PM
Just what we needed. Not.
Ruby on Fails
 
@sehe The standard doesn't say it shouldn't, but implementations don't (and still conform).
Well, for 16 it actually works, I think.
 
Surprising. If it doesn't work in the general case, I'd very much stipulate it doesn't work at all
 
Ell
The standard says it should honour and implementations don't honour?
 
Maybe clang/libc++
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
12:18 PM
AVX uses 32.
@Ell No, the standard says nothing.
 
@sehe Yeah, I don't get Egon really. If you use Haskell, why would you ever bother with Ruby
 
Implementations suck.
 
Interesting
 
and he's like, a really smart guy
 
@Ell The standard doesn't give a fuck about extended alignment types. It says they exist.
 
Ell
12:19 PM
Oh right
It sounds like you have no hope in the first place :S
 
It happens a lot. Really smart guys spend time on funny things, /because they can/
 
Not sure which party to blame here.
Both.
The standard should care, and implementations should not suck.
6
 
Just the standard
 
ITT Robot cannot into pointers
 
To my fake twitter follower: "Sorry elvira, I don't think I need your attention"
@BartekBanachewicz Not about pointers
 
12:21 PM
god, I hate slow HDDs
 
@sehe I was thinking about "this thread needs more malloc" too
 
having a slow HDD under the hood is worse than having a slow CPU, at times
 
don't use HDDs problem solved
 
I'd ask the manager to buy an SSD, but I'm having trouble asking for a dedicated GPU
so I'd rather not try in vain
so for now, PC hangs ahoy!
 
user1804599
I don’t understand how multiplying a 3x2 matrix by a 2x3 matrix yields a 3x2 matrix and not a 3x3 matrix.
 
12:23 PM
@BartekBanachewicz My fileserver going belly-up facilitated this for me recently. Which reminds me
@rightfold Do it manually yourself for a few times.
 
Get RAM.
@rightfold It only does so if it's wrong.
 
@rightfold erm, nope?
 
And don't get me started on VC++.
 
I did absolutely nothing productive today.
This is the 3rd day in a row.
 
12:26 PM
Did you do that with paint?
 
of course
 
Do you think self-righteousness is positively correlated to average/not high intelligence?
 
hehehe
 
VC++ is simply not conforming because it breaks something about passing parameters by value.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz why is there a cross there?
 
12:27 PM
Or used to. Haven't tested it on the recent ones yet.
 
@rightfold because the example is [4,2] * [2,3] and you wanted [3,2]*[2,3]
 
(No big incentive to test since the whole thing is hopeless everywhere)
 
user1804599
 
Wow. This article is a bomb:
 
user1804599
Is this wrong?
 
12:28 PM
Ah, so Telegram's security is based on people having Maths PhDs http://unhandledexpression.com/2013/12/17/telegram-stand-back-we-know-maths/ (HT @koenrh)
Loving the dry wit:
> Telegram greatly simplified the exchange by requiring three roundtrips, using RSA, AES-IGE (some weird mode that nobody uses), and Diffie-Hellman, along with a proof of work (the client has to factor a number, probably a DoS protection)...
 
@rightfold it's [2,3]*[3,2] not [3,2]*[2,3]
 
@sehe 16 works by accident because of memory manager implementation details, I think. Or maybe that's the largest fundamental alignment. Whatever the reason, that it works for this case is incidental because everything returned by new is 16-aligned unconditionally.
 
user1804599
Oh, is the row count first?
 
matrix multiplication is not commutative
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's what I meant earlier. I consider this no less broken than any other failure mode
 
12:30 PM
[n,x] * [x,m] :: [n,m]
@rightfold I always mix that
 
@rightfold [3, 1000]
 
Yeah, 16 is alignof(max_align_t)
 
point being you can get either 3x3 or 2x2 depending on the order of operands
 
user1804599
I’m confused.
 
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
matrix multiplication is not commutative
 
12:32 PM
So I'll just override operator new to 32-align everything and hope nothing uses malloc or some other bullshit. Sigh.
 
user1804599
That’s not relevant.
 
so what is confusing you?
 
user1804599
I don’t know which elements to dot product with which elements.
 
my teacher said you need two hands for that
 
Might add an exception to simply 16-align for any requests of size 16 or less.
 
left hand finger moves across left matrix row, and the right hand finger moves across right matrix column
 
No need to waste anything for those I think.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I always thought that it was dumb the way that C++'s memory management stuff basically ignores alignment.
 
@rightfold I dunno why are you trying to express that in dot products
 
struct alignas(32) foo {}; has size 32 anyway, so there will never be a call to op new with 16 or less if a foo is to be constructed there.
I think it's safe.
 
user1804599
12:34 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Because I am confused. :v
 
yeah, but it won't be aligned at 32bytes.
 
2 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
So I'll just override operator new to 32-align everything and hope nothing uses malloc or some other bullshit. Sigh.
I'm using the nuclear bomb option.
 
@rightfold the wiki image is pretty ok really. sec.
 
right
 
@rightfold Stop being confused. It's not the hards. It's just a matter of definition. Go through it once. Slowly.
 
12:35 PM
why do you need a 32byte alignment anyway?
 
ah
 
@BartekBanachewicz inb4 Bartek helpfully duplicating more web resources
 
Actually, should be 64, since there's AVX-512.
 
user1804599
12:36 PM
Let’s not punish Robot this time.
 
@rightfold That's 2x3 * 3x2 and results in 2x2.
 
I usually do it row by row. Pretend the first matrix only has one row and fill in one row in the result. Then the next row and so on.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Huh. That's interesting, I never learned it this way
 
@rightfold my bad, it really should be:
 
@Ell well. whatever works.
 
12:40 PM
Wrote last year a tool to filter CSV files with another csv file, that tool safes really a lot of time :)
^ Tweets like this make my toenails curl up
 
Oh, AVX-512 not this year.
 
Xeo
and back
 
javascript is odd
 
(in unrelated news, my toenails have a tendency to curl down, very much)
 
Ell
@sehe I don't understand why meetingcpp would tweet this :S is meetingcpp official?
 
Xeo
12:41 PM
was surprisingly non-painful
 
@Ell Official. Official. What does that mean
 
Ell
Officially endorsed by the standard body xD
I don't know :/
 
Absolutely not. Nothing is, methinks
 
@Ell It's official for Meeting C++, the conference thing. Nothing else.
 
Xeo
Also, I just had a Strawberry King Shake, the first one in a loooong time. I remember them tasting pretty decently, but today it was almost disgusting.
no taste of strawberry whatsoever, and a nasty aftertaste.
 
user1804599
12:49 PM
@sehe play curling.
 
@Xeo Oh, that! How did it go?
 
At least not the only one, I mean.
 
Xeo
@sehe just a lil injection
the needle was friggin long though
 
@Xeo Good
@Xeo Ew
@Xeo wt-actual-f
 
Xeo
didn't feel anything beside the initial piercing-through, which was also rather dull
 
12:55 PM
@Xeo what the fuck
 
Long needles are a thing. What's surprising?
 
My toenails tend to get broken and uneven at the ends. I'm not bothered - after Berlin, I probably won't be able to see them anyway.
 
Im not cutting your toenails
TIL Serbian has no articles.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Long needles make me nervous.
why are they so much longer than they need to be? :/
 
@MartinJames lol
 
1:00 PM
-1
Q: C++ operator overloading show strange behaviour

Vishali write one simple program #include <iostream> using namespace std; class Interval { public: Interval(int m_input, int s_input) { minutes = m_input + s_input / 60; seconds = s_input % 60; } void Print() const { cout << minutes << " : "

:(
 
Ell
Computer Modern is such a beautiful font
 
> ---> look it this why i don't know :( please enplane.
3
rofl
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that code should not compile in the first place, ugh
 
@Xeo Meh, for me they're just like knives. Nothing spec--wait.
 
Xeo
1:02 PM
furthermore, it should activate a slapping hand to extend from the monitor and slap the user
 
very badly
 
Xeo
I wonder if the standard could make stuff like T const& f(){ return T(); } ill-formed.
 
@sehe o_0
 
I think a warning is good enough for that.
 
1:15 PM
I think rightfold got matrices thing.
Great Success.
 
Xeo
Never rely on _Names, they are entirely private to the implementation and you have no reason to ever even think of them. There are better ways, one being that you stuff all placeholders into a tuple and get<I> them withh the pack expansion. The other being that you register your own placeholder (the standard provides the is_placeholder trait for this reason, which you can specialize. — Xeo 34 secs ago
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You're doing OK - you are at +3, VladFromHockeyFail has no votes yet:)
 
Xeo
meh
 
Dad of the year. http://youtu.be/j6zseFi070E via @youtube
4
aw
 
@sehe Hardware KSP:)
 
1:21 PM
cool
 
Pretty awesome
 
@sehe If your toenails are long enough to curl, you should probably cut them.
 
Hello everyone !
 
@FredOverflow Cut?? I use a Dremel grinder.
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit dat comparison in the last sentence.
 
Xeo
1:24 PM
@sehe very cool
 
To be fair, PHP isn't a programming language either. ducksWooble 2 hours ago
 
Facebook are buying Whatsapp, and 16 billion is the number of tweets that will inform you of this in the next 24 hours.
What's apt :)
 
I like how the flow on SO terrible questions is lately:

1. Someone posts a crappy wall of code
2. Lightness Races in Orbit comments that we (he) won't read and debug all that
3. Vlad from Moscow reads and debugs all that and posts a crappy answer
4. LRiO starts to argue with Vlad and is then forced to read and debug the question
5. LRiO posts his answer (with standard citations) that gets upboats
11
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sound like LRiO has his repwhoring tactics sorted
 
1:36 PM
> I was working with the string vectors and suddenly my code turned into a large container of errors.
lol
 
I'm so sad, about Vlad, he's a cad so bad it's mad.
 
Ell
@sehe wow
 
Apologies for the silence, folks. Been getting a load of work from the Daily Mail recently, so Twitter has suffered. We'll be back, though!
hehe
 
Xeo
Even if we ignore the rules about what you are and are not allowed to do in the std namespace, your class is a redefinition which is not allowed in any context and even if it was allowed, using it would be ambiguous since both definitions would match. You are going to have to either specialize for each type or only for Hashable and just use std::hash<Hashable> for all it's derived types. This is why i dislike traits like templates rather than functions through adl. — John5342 15 mins ago
booo
fuck adl
 
I concur.
 
1:42 PM
ADL is a superior choice for extending stuff.
 
ADL is a fine concept but it's much too wide-grasping in C++ I feel.
 
It sucks, but specialising std::hash is limiting.
 
I had something I was going to do on Wide today.
ah yes, clean up some of my access specifier code.
 
std::hash sucks anyway.
 
@sehe :)
@BartekBanachewicz :D
@TonyTheLion Damn right. Then again, Vlad is accruing rep so fast that even I can't keep up.
 
1:45 PM
hahaha
 
@DeadMG yup
@BartekBanachewicz Often, there's no involvement from Vlad. And many other times, Vlad-has-answered-this is likely yhe only reason why LRIO was looking at that question in the first place... :|
 
alright
let's say that I have a type with a private copy assignment operator.
if I'm in a member of that type, and I make a tuple of it for some reason, should it be copy assignable?
nah.
 
Xeo
difficult
 
user1804599
Lounge Races in Orbit.
 

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