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1:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Good enough for me!
 
@not-rightfold I just think that if you're spending hard-earned cash, it's worth to read up just a tiny bit about the stuff you're going to buy, that's all. It's your PC after all :v
 
user1804599
I need something to spend my cash on.
 
user1804599
Can't have it all in my wallet all the time.
 
@not-rightfold then buy an Eizo screen
your eyes will appreciate.
 
Xeo
@not-rightfold You can
 
user1804599
1:06 PM
@Xeo I need to buy a new wallet that supports a shitload of cash.
 
user1804599
This one is bulging out.
 
that's called a bank account
 
user1804599
Those fuckers don’t get a single penny.
 
@BartekBanachewicz He probably stuffed it with monopoly money
 
@not-rightfold you know there are free bank accounts available
 
user1804599
1:09 PM
Look at what happened in Cyprus.
 
user1804599
I wouldn't be surprised if that asshole of a Samsom steals all Dutch people's back account money too.
 
@BartekBanachewicz hahahaha
@not-rightfold Buy a mattress.
Then put the rest under it.
@BartekBanachewicz We use boost all over our code. Just saying bragging.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do use it in my code too. :v
@not-rightfold wait you were serious in not having a bank account?
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
I have two bank accounts.
 
1:20 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Not for his money laundering, duh.
Oooh, headphones finally arrived.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what model?
 
Beats By Dr.Dre
 
@not-rightfold thank god, I thought you are some kind of savage.
 
Company issued.
They are awesome. Evidence: don't fucking hurt my ears.
 
nice.
£259.95 oh gawd.
 
1:24 PM
Also WTF, everyone but the mechanics left already. It's not even 15:30.
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Company issued.
shrugs
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hint: it's friday
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh come on :F
I mean I could probably get a nice headphones here too, but I like my Philips model.
 
I seem to use my Shure earphones more often as earplugs than as headphones
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can say the same about my 50€ gaming headset :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes They're pampering you quite a bit, eh
 
most expensive (and comfortable) earplugs ever!
 
@Xeo Which is?
 
1:27 PM
@Xeo I think that's how much I paid for what I have at home as well.
@Xeo My soul is not cheap.
@willj You mean just for silence?
Silence is disconcerting.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, to block out the sound of jet engines and screaming babies
the in flight entertainment system has nothing I want to watch, and to be honest I'd rather sleep ;)
 
Xeo
The cushioning is amazing with that headset
 
@Xeo Nice nice. Not gaming, but I got these when they were on sale for 80$
 
@Borgleader the cable <3
 
1:30 PM
yes, i fucking love the cable
 
@willj Oh. I prefer to sleep on planes too, but there I can make use of one of my many superpowers: my sleep is almost impervious to sound.
Pity it nullifies alarm clocks and I can't disable it willingly.
 
Xeo
For me it depends on how sleepy I am, and how willing I am to wake up
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I would love to learn that ability :(
 
@willj It's double-edged sword.
 
1:33 PM
@한국매미 I see no particular reason to upboat that answer. And thus, I find it pretty tempting to downvote you for dumping it here.
 
@DeadMG You were summoned!
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Single-edged swords are boring.
 
btw, Gravity is awesome
go see it
 
@DeadMG sure. you're free to choose.
 
oh yeah
 
1:34 PM
@willj jelly
 
new unsigned char[size];
downvote definitely.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes You still didn't watch it?
 
@Xeo I wouldn't expect you'd say katana swords are boring.
 
@Xeo It's not out until October 4th.
 
Xeo
oh
 
1:34 PM
@willj watched a premiere in a film festival in Toronto, IIRC.
 
I saw it in Toronto
 
Xeo
Punch him
PoIP, Punch over IP
 
@Xeo If I could punch him, I would be in the vicinity of a place where I could have watched it.
 
Xeo
erm
 
I just flew back from Toronto, so I'm probably in range for punching
 
1:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes FOr a second there I thought you meant Toronto Canada
 
@Borgleader I did.
@willj I will. Still two weeks to go :S
 
Is the C++ programming language 4th edition the best reference for C++?
 
The Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF) is a publicly attended film festival held each September in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. In 2012, 372 films from 72 countries were screened at 34 screens in downtown Toronto venues, welcoming an estimated 400,000 attendees, over 4000 of whom were industry professionals. TIFF traditionally kicks off the Thursday night after Labour Day (the first Monday in September in Canada), lasting for eleven days. Founded in 1976, TIFF is now one of the most prestigious events of its kind in the world. In 1998, Variety magazine acknowledged that TIFF "is se...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll try to hold back the spoilers
 
user1804599
@zalenix Nein!
 
user1804599
1:38 PM
Define “best”.
 
Then which is?
 
user1804599
If you want the definition of C++, see The C++ Standard.
 
Where's the other one?
 
NO not the standard. The kind of book that takes and intermediate to expert levels
*an
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Watch in 3D, might be good in IMAX too
 
1:39 PM
@MartinJames ?
 
Shoulda cleaned that up before.
 
@willj I usually avoid that gimmick, but I want to make an exception for this one.
 
well i wonder why i keep coming back here
 
It can't be accelerated C++ that's too old. I want something for C++11
 
@한국매미 I guess dead is a little cranky today as well.
 
1:40 PM
s/today/this life/
 
@zalenix You know, there is a topic for c++ on SO -> stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/…
 
TC++PL4 is printed on nicer paper than C++ Primer, 5th edition.
 
@GamesBrainiac Nah.
 
@DeadMG Well I'm never pasting a C++ answer here. :P
 
Yeah, I have seen that. But more personalised opinion is what i am looking for. I am a CS student learnt C through my courses and know some of C++ out of interest...

So?
 
1:43 PM
Either TC++PL4 or C++P5.
 
how could i forget the inherent toxicity of this room
 
JBL
@한국매미 Why do you come in then.. ?
 
@GamesBrainiac Eh. I only downvote if the person pasting the answer has done so in bad faith, e.g. trolling for upvotes, or the answer is bad.
 
@JBL I'm wondering
 
1:43 PM
@한국매미 Because I make up for the lack of awesomeness ? :P
 
@zalenix this question has everything you need
 
@DeadMG I'm not sure it makes it a good answer, but I think it's worth noting that she was specifically pointing to the difference between just allocating memory, and allocating/initializing memory. It's relatively difficult to do that with std::vector -- the closest you can get is reserve, but that (or the allocator) could still initialize the memory.
 
@DeadMG Ahh, but say I write an answer, and want some feedback for you guys, would you downvote that?
 
@JerryCoffin Oh boy, your memory is indeed finicky. We've established that it is a male.
(Unless it is a female that looks and sounds totally like a male)
 
JBL
@zalenix Did you miss the subdivision in meaningful categories in that SO post ?
 
1:44 PM
heh there's a stompbox company called "Death by Audio"
 
HAHAHA now can I get some book name?
 
@GamesBrainiac Well, I reserve the right to downvote it if it's bad. But if you explicitly asked me for feedback, I'd probably just tell you it sucked and make you take care of it.
 
2 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Either TC++PL4 or C++P5.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hm...okay.
 
@zalenix The C++ Programming Language 4 or C++ Primer 5 (translated from Robot)
 
JBL
1:45 PM
@GamesBrainiac Asking for feedback =/= asking for upvotes.
 
4 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
TC++PL4 is printed on nicer paper than C++ Primer, 5th edition.
 
@JerryCoffin It could do, but conceptually, it doesn't. Besides, the issue about overcommitting has little to do with initializing the memory as we would perceive it and more about whether or not each page has been touched.
 
Xeo
@zalenix Can I get some money?
 
I can attest to this, since I looked at both just a moment ago.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, nice!
 
1:46 PM
Yeah ask that in SO ;)
 
@DeadMG "conceptually it doesn't" isn't going to help if somebody tries to test things, and gets identical results where you said there was going to be a difference.
 
user1804599
I want water.
 
@JerryCoffin Who cares. Usual DouchebagMG.
 
@JerryCoffin True. But I consider that sufficiently unlikely that I'll wait until I actually see that happen, and apologize later. There's also nothing stopping new T[] from initializing it's memory if it wants to.
 
1:50 PM
It is also memory if you don't want to.
 
@JerryCoffin Er, also, there's a part of me that suggests that the complexity requirements of reserve might actually ban the vector from initializing it, and the wording of the default allocator might well ban it from doing such a thing as well. So I wouldn't necessarily suggest that it is legal for reserve() to initialize the memory.
 
you really like your petty arguments, do you
 
@DeadMG In theory, new T[] could initialize, but I've never seen it. I've seen reserve do so (or maybe it was the allocator -- I never tracked down which, but by the time reserve returned, the memory had all been written).
 
@JerryCoffin Mysticial said that on Windows, large heap allocations are initialized by the operating system as some security something something. So that could also throw off the results.
 
user1804599
Yum, water.
 
1:53 PM
@한국매미 Did he even give you a chance to improve your answer? Because if he did, then arguing is moot.
 
@DeadMG I don't think there's a complexity requirement on allocate.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Gravity joins the very short list of films that weren't made worse by being 3D - the only other one being Toy Story 3 ;)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It would be on reserve. If reserve is O(size()), then it can't go through the unused memory, since that's O(argument).
 
@DeadMG But allocate certainly can.
 
Awwwright, time to finish reading OpenGL Programming Guide
 
1:54 PM
as for allocate, the default allocator, I am pretty sure, is mandated to simply pass-through from new char[]. It might or might not be permitted to do other things as well.
and I think that allocating new char[], then initializing it, then returning it, is Hell++ level of behaviour
 
operator new can use calloc.
 
yeah, but then you're back to new[] initializing things.
 
@DeadMG I believe it's supposed to use operator new, not new char[].
 
Oh, you mean the allocator being different than op new?
 
hmmm, I keep forgetting that those are technically different things.
 
1:56 PM
Sorry. Pretend I'm still awesome.
10
 
or, isn't that basically the same thing?
anyways, all I'm saying is, I think there's a reasonable shot that the wording in the Standard does ban std::vector and the default allocator from doing any extra initialization.
 
Someone asking for the inclusion of "2x2x2 Rubik's cube arrows" in Unicode.
 
Xeo
wat
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ahahahhaa
 
@Xeo Some symbols used to describe moves.
 
1:59 PM
4 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@DeadMG Dunno about that. There are certainly improvements, but there are also clusterfucks like list-initialisation or std::async.
^ Why are those clusterfucks?
 
what, you don't know?
 
I still cannot solve a 5x5x5 :(
 
It's funny because he wants to add those arrows for 2x2x2, but not for 3x3x3 which is by far the most common.
 
user1804599
16:00. Perfect.
 
Wait, it would still be funny if it were for 3x3x3.
 
2:00 PM
@not-rightfold dat perfection
 
user1804599
A 2x2x2 Rubik's cube? :V
 
Xeo
@wilx uniform init isn't uniform, std::async returns a blocking std::future.
 
Apr 19 at 15:54, by R. Martinho Fernandes
std::async(std::launch::async, f);
std::async(std::launch::async, g);
// still runs sequentially
// WELL DONE
 
@DeadMG steal it and make money out of it.
Oh wait. Nevermind.
 
@Pawnguy7 I never even saw one.
 
2:08 PM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nor have I (though I have seen pictures). I have a feeling they're physically fairly fragile.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah. Having disassembled far more of the regular ones than I can remember (both on purpose for maintenance or accidentally because they were total crap and would not resist my moves intact) I always wondered how a 5x5x5 would hold itself together.
 
user1804599
> for maintenance
 
user1804599
lol
 
What's funny?
 
Xeo
2:11 PM
I suck at Rubik's cubes :/
 
Articulations need lubrication.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes noob.
@JerryCoffin good, expensive ones are pretty durable /cc @R.Martinho
@Xeo is it suck as in "I can't solve for shit" or suck as in "I can't get under 20 seconds"?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Former
 
@Xeo well you need to get 4 or 5 basic functions on the cube and then it's easy
:: Cube -> Cube
 
2:13 PM
What?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Pretty sure it's similar to a 4x4, with a ball at the center with "tracks" cut into it, and each "slice" running in a track. Even on 4x4, the tracks are pretty narrow, so the 5x5 needs to either be really big, or else the tracks are quite narrow.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh!
 
I think my best was like 1:07 or something. Not consistent though, it let me skip a step.
Never got around to learning more algorithms to do it faster.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes if you're a begginner, solving is basically applying a few repetitions of 4 functions.
 
That sounds... extremely slow.
Like, painfully slow.
 
2:14 PM
@JerryCoffin I wondered if you had time to look at my comment on your sentinel_iterator anwer over at CodeReview
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes this will get you under 2 minutes easily
then you can really start optimizing
 
@BartekBanachewicz What?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is 2 minutes painfully slow for you?
I am not a cube pro FTR
 
What are those 4 functions?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes first-wall corner rotations, 2/3 sidewall movements, cross-shape setup on the back, final corner positioning and rotations (actually 5, as I said earlier, my mistake)
 
2:16 PM
Google's systrace uses JavaScript to display data collected by python about java and native code. What could possibly go wrong?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Me neither but I use about 20-30 different algorithms when solving one, and it takes me more than 2 minutes (I move slowly though)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 20-30 should get you under 30 seconds :V
well if you are really solving for speed you need a good cube and fast fingers anyway
 
a very slow but methodically solution to the cube is use Bartek's 5 functions, but with the "commutator" trick where you do some R f R^{-1}
 
I think I use what they call the layer method or something.
 
most of my cubes disassembled into flying pieces when I was trying to break a record
 
2:18 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Anyway, that's all gibberish to me. I don't know any names for my things :S
I learned this before there was the ubiquitous Internet, so it was pretty much just me and a classmate on an island of knowledge :S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well there are pieces that form the top cross, top corners, middle sides, back cross and back corners
@Pawnguy7 top, middle walls and bottom, also look ^
@TemplateRex most of the tutorials leave one step undeterministic though, which is lame. Easy to fix yourself though
 
@BartekBanachewicz That much was obvious. I have no idea what "2/3 sidewall movements" means for example. (can you link to something with pics?)
 
I manually discovered the 4 tricks after my math prof explained the commutator, that was a long time ago, but once you know it you never forget it. But I don't get it done under 3 minutes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 2/3 as in the middle layer "side" walls.
they are moved from and to the bottom layer middle side (swapped with them)
 
Ah. Do we use the same method, then?
 
2:21 PM
there's fairly good 8 (IIRC) move algorithm for such a swap
 
@TemplateRex No, I hadn't noticed it. Um...it's not really intended to read to end of input (on any stream). I should probably add code for it to get "signaled" if you reach EOF, but as is, if you never reach a matching value it'll fail.
 
@Pawnguy7 it's quite common.
 
I think so, though I have seen a few others.
I just wish I could come up with these things.
 
As I said when you get better you can start seeing more things and patterns and make use of them
 
I remember there was like a 15+ turn algorithm to fix some odd edge case in the 4x4x4.
 
2:23 PM
it's been mathematically proven that a whole cube can always be solved in 42 turns IIRC
 
Isn't that down to 20 now?
 
I don't think so, let's consult wiki
 
@JerryCoffin I was specifically thinking of a sentinal type that somehow would call an operator== overload that checks the failed() bit of the istream
 
> in July 2010, a team of researchers including Rokicki, working with Google, proved the so-called "God's number" to be 20.[39][40] This is optimal, since there exist some starting positions which require at least 20 moves to solve. More generally, it has been shown that an n × n × n Rubik's Cube can be solved optimally in Θ(n2 / log(n)) moves.[41]
 
@BartekBanachewicz 24 IIRC
 
2:24 PM
@Pawnguy7 you were right
 
@BartekBanachewicz ah
 
Is a turn defined as a single side for any degree of rotation (i.e. could be a 180)?
 
@Pawnguy7 I think it counts as 2
dunno really.
 
The weapon target assignment problem (WTA) is a class of combinatorial optimization problems present in the fields of optimization and operations research. It consists of finding an optimal assignment of a set of weapons of various types to a set of targets in order to maximize the total expected damage done to the opponent. The basic problem is as follows: :There are a number of weapons and a number of targets. The weapons are of type i = 1, \ldots, m . There are W_{i} available weapons of type i. Similarly, there are j = 1, \ldots, n targets, each with a value of V_{j} . Any of t...
 
any. Moves are drulfb[2']
 
2:26 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Hmm. I usually don't have a "middle" layer. I put all the corners in place (I'm pretty sure this is where I can improve a lot; still feels too messy) and then treat all edges equally.
 
I would have never guessed people spent time to analyse this. Interesting!
 
Anyway, it is interesting. I have solved the 5x5x5 a few times, but I don't know how to solve it...
 
@TemplateRex You might be able to make that work, but if you want to read to end of input, why wouldn't you just use a std::istream_iterator and be done with it?
 
@wilx ... everything
 
@JerryCoffin safe the extra if() inside operator++ ?
 
2:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's rather uncommon.
 
7 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I learned this before there was the ubiquitous Internet, so it was pretty much just me and a classmate on an island of knowledge :S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Still applies.
 
blindfolded
 
I've learned my method when I was a kid.
@TemplateRex yeah that's damn robotic
 
@TemplateRex Given that you're normally dealing with I/O anyway, optimizing one if is pretty meaningless.
 
2:27 PM
I've learned my method when my youngest was a kid!
I have used MapVirtual file and received void* m_pVoiceData; How would I lock that, please? — tmighty 3 hours ago
^ somebody tell him APIs are about function calls, not public pleas :)
 
@JerryCoffin sure, but it's something that e.g. primitive (as opposed to iterator-based) ranges could avoid because they would only have to call an if() in their empty() member
 
> Unless you have a flawless, photographic memory and can recall and harmonize improvised passages in real time, it’s very difficult to do off the cuff.
lol
 
@TemplateRex my cube doesn't turn that fast, period.
 
talk about robotic. (somewhat off-topic)
@Pawnguy7 grease it.
11 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
well if you are really solving for speed you need a good cube and fast fingers anyway
 
I have heard that. Never got around to it.
while we are on the topic of blindfolds...
People play blindfold chess :D
 
2:30 PM
yeah, that has a name
 
It does?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I find it fairly believable, really. I picked up a cube a while back (after 20+ years without even touching one). I could still do it from muscle memory, but if I looked at the cube at the wrong time while doing it, I got confused about what was going on, and had to start over...
 
@Pawnguy7 You're in for a surprise. It's a huge difference
 
@JerryCoffin That's how it works for me as well.
 
@JerryCoffin I can do every function blindfolded. Choosing them is another story.
 
2:32 PM
^
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah -- pretty sure I couldn't even attempt that.
 
I think the hardest for me would be memorising the initial setup.
 
@sehe Ah. It appears movements can be made with a single finger. Any idea of the factor by which speed might increase?
 
I once did a fire drill, walking completely blindfolded in the office building, that was pretty scary, you get lost after a few turns
 
But then, I was never terribly good anyway. Then again, when I actually knew it, the good methods hadn't been invented yet.
 
2:33 PM
Then you can simply use only algorithms that move only the target pieces and nothing else.
 
In other news, me and my friend went back to playing Go together
we want to finally invest in a 19x19 board
 
Xeo
I need a Mahjong group close to here :<
 
Go is bestest game evah.
 
Done with the red book, now starting orange :3
 
@BartekBanachewicz Interesting coincidence: just last Friday I met someone that agreed to teach me.
 
2:35 PM
@TemplateRex Ah -- I guess that does make some sense, but I guess the real answer will depend on the details of how the ranges were implemented.
 
Ever played Chinese checkers?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes we can play together! (I'm around 27 kyu ATM)
 
I like it, but I always just lose. Like, by two moves often.
 
@Borgleader don't worry you still know nothing :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't know nothing. I know one thing: that I know nothing!
 
2:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Actually, I think I don't know algorithms that would allow me to solve it blindfolded. All the corner algorithms I use are destructive. I don't know any that don't perturb edges (which is why I put all corners in place first).
@BartekBanachewicz Is this what you meant? sites.google.com/site/71omnia/documents/…
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's why you leave bottom corners for later
 
@BartekBanachewicz Erm, why?
You only leave them for later if you know non-perturbing algorithms to put them in place.
 
@JerryCoffin simple struct with istream*, constructor sets pointer and reads first value, empty() checks fail() bit, front() returns last read value, pop_front() reads next value, but without checking again for fail
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh wait right, lol. I know the non-destructive tri-corner-swap and tri-corner-rotate functions, they are easy as heck
 
All the stuff I use to put corners in place make a mess of edges (I could learn how they perturb the edges, but that's not worth it unless you want to do the blindfold thing with those).
 
2:41 PM
If memory serves, there is a method that does all the edges, then corners, so there are some non-destructive methods.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes or optimize as heck
 
Xeo
opiumize?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've heard quite a few people do that, but always found it strange. I found a fair number of algorithms that manipulate corners without affecting edges (so I always do edges first, then corners).
 
@JerryCoffin yeah, I do the same
 
What I wonder is this: was a solution known before it began to be sold?
 
2:43 PM
nope
at least I don't think a deterministic one
 
@Pawnguy7 According to legend at the time, Rubik himself had solved it before it went on the market. Lacking internet (or anything similar) at the time, it's hard to guess how accurate that was though.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz s/game/programming language/
 
@not-rightfold Only in your pony filled dreams.
 
I think Rubik would be disappointed in most solutions though. If memory serves, he was an architecture professor, and his intent was that it would help in learning 3D visualization, so he wanted people to solve by visualizing how moves would work together, not just by memorizing rote sets of moves.
 
For the 5x5x5, I can do the centers (learned that, for the most part, from the 4x4x4, though it is a bit undeterministic). Then, you want to combine the edges - three blocks per edge. Once you do that, you can solve it just like a 3x3x3. Problem is, I don't know how to make the last two edges.
 
2:46 PM
@JerryCoffin It took him one month to solve the first one.
It took five years for it to go on the market.
 
@JerryCoffin it's pretty damn hard
 
He claimed it took more than five months before one of his students solve it.
 
I am not surprised by it.
 
Anyway, I have, through mostly blind trial and error, solved the edge a few times, and so I have solved, but cannot on demand, solve a 5x5x5.
 
Even if those are not the truth, I doubt it would take any of them more than five years.
 
user1804599
2:47 PM
@Borgleader omg ponies poines opones<3
 
I tried to reverse engineer it to find the pattern, but never did.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 5 years does seem pretty excessive.
@BartekBanachewicz No doubt -- in fact, I think from a viewpoint of the original intent, you could make a pretty fair argument that the failure is on the part of the cube itself.
 
I am going to share my happinness then and this baby is hopefully shipping to me next week
@JerryCoffin heh
 
Well, I'm finally returning home today, and it's almost 8AM here, so I guess I need to get packed up and go to the airport. TTYL.
 
Have a nice flight. If that is remotely possible.
 
2:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, shouldn't be too bad anyway.
Only a couple hours per leg, so how bad can it be?
 
Hmm, actually, I do I know one algorithm to rotate a pair of corners in place without perturbing anything else.
Just nothing to put them there,
 
Ho boy... "there are two types of shaders: vertex shaders and fragment shaders", this book needs a new edition >.>
 
@Borgleader i think it has a new one
 
Is the OpenGL Superbible good?
It came with the new batch of books that we got at work, and I'm wondering if it's worth picking up to learn some of the new stuff.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes which edition?
 
2:59 PM
@BartekBanachewicz checked amazon, it seems to top at 3rd edition which i have, theres an opengl shading cookbook or wtv which was update to 4.0
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes folks here tend to agree it's good. You can also ask me :smug:
 
@melak47 Latest. Fifth, I think.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes latest is 6th :3
 
No, Sixth.
 
but 5th is about 3.3 so it should be fine :)
 
2:59 PM
@melak47 Yeah, I was misreading the spine from afar.
 
@Pawnguy7 roughly 8x for me
 

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