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7:01 AM
@한국매미 haha
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Ugh, that guy is a fucking idiot.
 
@한국매미 painful
 
@한국매미 lol, just when I was actually just doing some hand-optimization. :)
 
lol
 
implicit conversions are awesome :)
 
7:12 AM
@GamesBrainiac you're asking for trouble
 
Xeo
@GamesBrainiac No they're not
 
@ScottW late: i.imgur.com/PGfEir2.png (I had install the plugin first :))
@Mysticial We don't wanna know :/
 
@sehe It wasn't the evil evil kind of hand-optimization. Just single evil. But you probably don't want to know anyways. :)
 
@Mysticial tell us
 
7:16 AM
@Mysticial tell us
 
It's hard to describe. But long story short, I was hard-coding the base cases of a recursion.
 
With pictures!
 
its our C++
 
naked-pointer-ridden C++ is his C++
 
People get defensive and possessive if they love things
 
7:18 AM
1 hour ago, by StackedCrooked
"Flat is better than nested." is one of my own rules as well
^^ lolicon? :P:P:P
 
> John Carmack is undoubtedly a better coder than most but you do really think he just woke up one day and said "eureka! I'm an expert at C++!". No, I'm sure he started out asking the same questions that get downvoted on stackoverflow because people think it shouldn't (or can't) be done - like how to overload the new keyword.
 
@ScottW my sehe
 
Xeo
@Mysticial if you're thinking about boobs, wtf are "nested boobs" in your book?
 
Flat is better than chested
 
Xeo
lol
@sehe Yeah, it can't be done. You can't overload any keyword.
 
7:20 AM
 
@Xeo lol
 
Xeo
@한국매미 Touché
 
Awesome
 
whats all this fuss about overloading new?
 
> Oh...and if you are going to respond with "I know what I'm doing - I've been doing it for awhile!" - I can't help but see you as the Super Meat Boy developer who directly connected to a MySQL server from his game and refused to acknowledge there was anything wrong with that approach
@A.H. People are reading the linked reddit about Milewski's blog post
(it's not that hard to spot. lurk more!)
 
7:22 AM
oh I read it, its just reddit is really stupid sometimes
 
hi
 
By the way, is there any boost::not1 / std::not1 equivalent that doesn't require the ::argument_type, ::result_type braindamage? (like c++14 greater<>, less<> etc.?)
 
@A.H. s/sometimes//
 
sorry..i m new to this room...need some help regardin a c++ design
 
>

std::unique_ptr has zero overhead over naked pointers

I might not want to destroy the object when it goes out of scope. I guess I could std::move the pointer over? But what if it doesn't have a single 'owner'? Maybe I want multiple places to have access to this pointer.
so in other news my copy past fu is weak
 
7:27 AM
@sehe Nope. You can make your own though, it's easy.
 
Xeo
@sehe C++11 removed that requirement from the function adaptors, no?
 
@Xeo Nope.
 
Still no.
At least they're solving it.
 
plz comment ..anything if possible on this..
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Q: Peer Object Communication in C++

Chris Have to design a infra which establish the communication between peer objects. Here all managers are peers and nobody knows each other. Manager subscribe for the event and other manager publishes. A manager doesnt have reference of other managers and they only publish and subscribe. Director on...

 
user1804599
7:33 AM
I see new and owning pointers. — not-rightfold 4 secs ago
 
@Rapptz kinda ruins the concept of succinct SO posts
@Xeo nope, not with gcc at least
 
It's not removed, it's a defect.
 
@Xeo Thanks
 
Any of you has a careers profile? Is it useful?
 
@한국매미 I got my new job via SO Careers :/ I hadn't actively filled any info. It just showed my SO activity (and, consequently, age and region)
 
7:39 AM
@한국매미 I see your nested boobie and raise you great tits global3.memecdn.com/great-tits-picard-is-a-fan_o_1453905.jpg
 
hmmm
maybe it's time I put all these internet points to use...
 
Aw man, this is comedy gold: SuperMeat Boy Mysql fiasco
 
user1804599
I want lambdas in PostgreSQL. :'(
 
but all my answers suck. meh.
 
@not-rightfold we can do nested selects
 
user1804599
7:43 AM
@A.H. That's really the same thing, yes.
 
totally
 
> DON'T EVEN THINK OF USING THIS TAG! It was burninated during last summer's tag cleanup.
I think I'll just push all my old projects on dickhub (or dickbucket?)
 
> A better analogy would be that banks who leave their vaults unlocked and open are foolish and irresponsible, regardless the fact that robbery is immoral and illegal.
> Someone get a car involved in this, tia
> > "At this point I'm convinced that you're either blatantly provoking him or are one of the most socially retarded people this website has ever seen."
> Now now, we don't live in a black and white world of either-or
Well played
 
I'm reading the topic too. How in the world is that even possible?
 
@한국매미 me knoes :P
 
7:56 AM
> Post the login details on 4chan and let nature take its course.
 
@한국매미 Whenever I read 4chan, i hear /b/
:P
 
JBL
@한국매미 Makes me sad, because SMB is a cool game otherwise.
 
@Xeo noice
 
Quite easily: momentary lapse of judgement
Happens a zillion times every minute
 
8:03 AM
@sehe momentary lapse of judgement? How is "let's get the client to directly connect to the DB" a momentary lapse of judgement? :o
 
Xeo
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Q: Is there a SFINAE test to check if an enum is unsigned?

AdrianActually, I'm not sure if using the operator< or any other comparison operator other than operator== is even valid, but I've not seen anything to suggest otherwise. So assuming that is valid, is there a way of determining if an enum is valid using SFINAE?

 
The more I use C# the more I like it.
Are there any gotchas I should be aware of?
 
Xeo
Ugh. When will people learn, that the valid range for an enum is the range of its underlying type :(
 
@GamesBrainiac What do you mean
 
user1804599
Damn.
 
user1804599
8:08 AM
I created a view with CREATE VIEW v AS SELECT * FROM t WHERE … and now I added a column to t and it doesn't appear in v. :<
 
@한국매미 you know, and no peer review.
Without any review, a momentary lapse can send an entire branch of evolution off track.
(unrelated, that site was unknown to me. I must say the quality of conversation is higher than average there)
@GamesBrainiac Yeah. Don't fall in love with LINQ
 
@한국매미 for example PHP's strpos function. Its a total screw up function. Doesn't throw exceptions, but gives you wrong answers.
 
Xeo
Wrong reply?
 
@Xeo Sorry for that Xeo.
 
Xeo
@sehe Why? Because he will be disappointed by all other languages after that? :P
 
8:12 AM
@not-rightfold sooo. recreate the view. It's not that unexpected. I'd say a view would be akin to a prepared statement (at least not less efficient), so it makes sense that it wouldn't retrieve the column set every friggin' time it's queried
 
@Xeo I have heard good things about it.
 
Linq is precious. Just, easily abused. Then you have a tangled mess of implicitely async code that's hard to debug and doesn't perform at all.
 
@GamesBrainiac I can't really think of any "total screw up" in C#. There's some quirks here and there but overall it's pretty well designed.
 
Wait. You're arguing that `strpos` should _throw exceptions_?!
Discussion crashed
 
@sehe If your index is out of range, yes.
 
user1804599
8:15 AM
@sehe How would it be less efficient? The AS clause and the query on the view are combined into one query. It's not like the DBMS is first going to select all the records from t and then filtering on that.
 
@한국매미 Oh, no readonly collections (effectively), very suprising and confusing mix of marker interfaces and things like IComparable<> or IComparator<> etc.
 
@한국매미 Will do. I think of all the languages discussed here, C# is the least vitriol-ed on.
:P
 
Also, failure to make comparator factories, instead of Enumerable.[Order|Then]By[Descending](this IEnumerable<>) mess
@GamesBrainiac Haskell first.
 
@GamesBrainiac You forgot Haskell. Then comes C#.
 
lol.
Yes, I got rid of scala, going back to haskell
:P
I actually started it because there was a nice course on coursera on functional programming
had some good exercises
@한국매미 Wait a minute. Where's Python ?
Haskell > Python > C#
Thats more like it :P
 
8:18 AM
You make no sense
1 > 13 > 2
 
user1804599
At least, if I read this correctly. gist.github.com/rightfold/5d7601d8545ff29885c5
 
Xeo
@GamesBrainiac Python is nice, but dynamic typing sucks
 
user1804599
Dynamic typing is nice.
 
user1804599
@GamesBrainiac You're missing Perl.
 
Xeo
8:22 AM
Right
Haskell > C# > * > Perl
 
dynamic typing doesn't work and its use should be punishable by law
 
C < C# < C++
if converted to int and compared
 
Go take a hike! :)
(or: that was an odd cake)
 
user1804599
8:30 AM
Yay.
 
Wut. You've discovered that dynamic SQL serverside is takes only 80% of the same query client-side? Welcome to stored procedure world (wild guessing)
 
@Xeo Yea, slowly realizing that :(
@Telkitty猫咪咪 C++ is FUBAR and everyone knows it. Except Cat.
 
user1804599
@sehe Huh?
 
user1804599
We have very few stored procedures, and none are related to this view.
 
8:34 AM
^ whoa, hard-core stuffs (/cc @Mysticial)
> (wild guessing)
@not-rightfold Maybe (???...) just explain the yay instead?
 
227 wow so many stars thx u guise
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@not-rightfold That was intentional
 
user1804599
@sehe I’m going to write a GC in C tonight.
 
@ScottW With C++?
@not-rightfold Is that a death wish?
@ScottW awesome.
 
*turns off life support* *waits* *turns it back on* Me: How's she now? Him: Are you sure you're a doctor? Me: Doct... No, I'm from IT.
 
8:39 AM
@sehe o.O
 
@not-rightfold Oooh. That's been a while. Let me think. About 2 days without writing a GC or dynamic type system. You're getting rusty!
 
user1804599
as soon as you bundle /any/ toolbar with your software you instantly lose all credibility and everything you once stood for.
 
Tend to agree
 
@한국매미 Have a +1000.
 
8:42 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hai! :)
 
Where's the shark?
 
@GamesBrainiac Nice. :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Swimming.
 
Xeo
People will likely not catch that.
 
Not with that Netz.
 
8:43 AM
Netz*, you catch Haie with Netze[nr]
 
Xeo
*Netzen
("mit Netzen")
In English, that kinda sounds weird
 
Ah, it wasn't in functional form, because English!
 
Xeo
The "r" is wrong in any case
 
@Xeo I'm used to that happening.
 
Xeo
*used ?
 
8:48 AM
@Xeo Too late now. I plead non-German
 
Hmm, I see that nobody else have posted their desk pictures. Sad. :(
 
I don't want to see your d**k
 
Stupid question ahead -> is there a mc/dc test coverage add on for visual studio for c#?
 
JBL
Maybe he has a wonderful rubber d**k.
 
Wrong room
 
8:50 AM
@GamesBrainiac is that some kind of rock group
 
@한국매미 not ac/dc :P
 
@GamesBrainiac is that some kind of current
 
Modified Condition / Decision Coverage
I'm learning about different test coverage types
 
i have no idea
 
8:51 AM
@wilx There you go.
 
@sehe I want to see yours!
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Funny! :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what a clean wall
 
It's a desk.
 
@wilx Disclaimer: @sehe loves out-of-context quotes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what an ugly desk
 
8:52 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's a bit brillant
@GamesBrainiac Pex and Moles. There you go -> research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/pex/downloads.aspx
 
@GamesBrainiac It's practical. It has a motor and telescopic legs so I can raise it and work standing when I get tired of sitting down.
 
@sehe aw yes pex is brilliant. never heard of moles, though.
 
Guys, i'm off. Cya later
 
Who got you off?
 
@sehe holy shit.
MS does make really awesome tools
 
8:56 AM
@sehe Was going to car pool but they already have 4 people in the car and I don't want to go so early so I decided to drive myself. Besides it is car camping the first night and I have a huge 3 person car camping dorm tent, I am bringing bedsheets/blankets (couldn't be bothered to sleep in the sleepbag when I have the chance to sleep in 'luxury'). With that said I am off in 20 minutes
 

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